J&T 12/17/11 Part 8: Homosexuality in Islam; Perfect Muhammad

[Zomgtforly]

It's funny, because here in America the right wing conservatives who HATE MUSLIMS say the same thing as them. Odd bedfellows, imo.

[soltbolz]

Homosexuality stops the population from growing and a male cannot give birth which will create further confusion between their "children" which they have adopted and this can cause the children stress as well due to them not knowing their biological parents. Why did you not speak about these thing Klingchor?

Allah has banned things as they will not benefit us and will actually protect us.

[Meloman0001]

@soltbolz Only a small portion of the population is homosexual. It has a very negligible effect on growth population. If homosexuality confuses the child, then the parent can explain what's happening. That's why they're adults/parents.

[soltbolz]

@Meloman0001 Have it you way then. Let them become socially depressed when it comes to school and if only a small portion of the world are homosexual then that makes it even more awkward for children growing up with homosexual parents. When people say it is not natural they mean men are not naturally attracted to other men like they are to women.

Allah has banned us from doing things because it will benefit us.

[Meloman0001]

@soltbolz Have you not seen the preponderance of homosexuality in the animal kingdom (Lions, Penguins, Monkeys etc.) It's clear it is natural and common in the animal kingdom It's also clear that homosexuality is genetic and not something that can be chosen. Socially depressed? I have never seen a scientific study that shows children being depressed because of having homosexual parents. There is no evidence that you can clearly demonstrate that defends your position.

[soltbolz]

@Meloman0001 What? Mate we are theists so please don't compare us to the animal kingdom when it is pretty obvious we are distinct from animals and there are valid arguments which support me. Also we would pretty much be screwed if we needed scientific evidence for everything. I thought it would be pretty obvious that children would be confused if their parents were homosexual. I knew a guy who was homosexual and he admitted that he is only gay because of past events in his life.

[Meloman0001]

@soltbolz We have 98.9% of the same genes as chimps. No, we don't need scientific evidence for everything, but when you claim something to be true, you have to evidence. Like when you said that children are depressed because they have homosexual parents. You didn't provide any evidence, only your biased viewpoint. You're against homosexuality merely because Allah says so. There is no other legitimate reason.

[Meloman0001]

@soltbolz @soltbolz We have 98.9% of the same genes as chimps. No, we don't need scientific evidence for everything, but when you claim something to be true, you have to evidence. Like when you said that children are depressed because they have homosexual parents or that it affects population growth. You didn't provide any evidence, only your biased viewpoint. You're against homosexuality merely because Allah says so. There is no other legitimate reason.

[soltbolz]

@Meloman0001 Go on The Rationalizers videos and go to the Harun Yahya debate called evolution fact or fiction. I said something which I know is true because of past experience. This is one of the ways we gain knowledge as well as science. I knew a person that said he is only gay because of past events in his life (probably growing up). Also it does stop the population from increasing regardless whether there are a lot of homosexuals or not in the world.

[cleticprincess1956]

So Jessie with your reasoning it is ok for an old fart to marry a 6 year old girl then fuck her when when she is 9 years old. You sir are also a dick.

[CorporalNym]

@HamzaAndreasTzortzis Allah HU ak Sore botty !

[CorporalNym]

If Homosexuality was 'unnatural' it would have been naturally selected out and disappeared. Interestingly the more a woman produces male offspring the more likely her later sons will be Homosexual.

[time0is0a0myth]

@HamzaAndreasTzortzis you jelly cuz Mo got more pussy than you, fresh and experienced. self deluding moral faggots living in their by chance existing succumbing to their self imposed societal dogmas on who and at what age someone can have sex in an accidental existence is just plain retarded.

fuck your moral faggotry in this by chance existence. go save a whale and hug a tree. because i give a fck and it matters in this coincidental existence. lame atheist is lame.

lulz

[time0is0a0myth]

homosexuality is natural? so is rape, pedophilia, murder, cannibalism etc. the question is what purpose does homosexuality serve, and does nature have an intended purpose for it? if animals learn how to pleasure themselves through homosexual behavior that is normal? Klingschor seem to confuse homosexual "behavior" with homosexuality. There are observed homosexual behavioral activity among animals, but NOT HOMOSEXUALITY i.e. preference of same sex. Homosexuality is human social construct, IDIOT!

[855842]

Islam is beautiful

[ProgressiveAudio]

Actually Hitchens didn't become right-wing, he just sided with the neocons on foreign policy because he became a big pussy after 9/11. Notice one of his last articles he wrote was "Red Rosa" promoting Marxist revolutionaries and trying to clean up the image its given from Stalin and such. Some right winger.

[00ismaeL002]

Jessie says there is reason why something is done and written in Islamic text;

1. Like killing gecko salamanders? What is the reasoning behind that???

2. Like women will go to hell for plucking their eyebrows? How does that make sense?

[nxxrify]

@00ismaeL002 I've asked thesecond question myself. Allah, creator of the universe and all the wonders within, gives a fuck about women plucking their eyebrows? One could dismiss Islam simply by the sheer stupidity of that rule.

[Haradin32]

WHAT? I've been using that argument for 3 years! thank me kling schor!

[KaraCarsafliGelin]

Alexis701 has a video somethig like "muhammad got raped by his two cousins when he was a childea "Allah was on smoking break couldnt stop from happening.Whe know that Muhammad wasnt so pure n spotless.

[TurboDally]

"Just thing about it"

People HAVE thought about it, AND we have data that contradict your claims.

"Newborns will decline"

Look at the global population, the human race has NO problems increasing its numbers. KILLING people because they chose a method other than procreation to create more babies is not exactly a nice way to go about increasing an already alarming population of humans that we currently have.

[ProgressiveAudio]

@TurboDally We shouldn't be increasing the population anyway...

[sanket13x]

homosexuality is not a crime in Islam but anal sex is crime great so what kissing, masturbating & Blowjob hahahhahahah that's not crime????????????????????

[Klingschor]

@sanket13x

He lied. But Atheismo didn't let me respond -_-

[Klingschor]

@sanket13x

He lied. But Atheismo didn't let me respond -_-

[00ismaeL002]

@Klingschor How did he lie?

[Klingschor]

@00ismaeL002

He said that homosexuality isn't a crime. However, given that Islam defines homosexuality (the "Act of Lot") as two men bumming each other, it IS a heinous sin (in Islam) and Muhammad commanded homosexuals to be put to death. There's no ambiguity or nuance to the commandment. The thing about private or public is the product of fiqh - Muhammad was very clear on the matter, as is the Qur'an.

[ProgressiveAudio]

@Klingschor You should finish it in a video response :p

[daemonowner]

Great end to the show guys.