Just play the damn game and enjoy the game. There has always been complains towards every race saying that they were OP. If you honestly believe another race is over powered then why don't you just play as them? None of you fully believe what you say. Don't blame blizzard for your own failures. You were all given the same choices laid before you.
i hate terrans, they are op, theres no way you can explain that! i just want to see how many terran players will cry when zerg gets his own expansion, in wings of liberty terran are op, in heart of the swarm zerg will be op
If rines are op what are mutas? I really dont know, some ppl are just stuck in sc2 how it was at release... The OP Terran times are over for months! Neither Marines nor Tanks nor reaper or anything else is OP anymore.
i hate how idra calls gg when he can still easily win :( no reinforcements are on the way from marine king; and idra got a huge economic adv and still 900minerals for a army :/ ow well
These players are both so amazing. Idra with his incredible macro and good micro and marineking with his INSANE marine micro and army manadgement. I loved this series a lot.
from 13:30 on it is just Idra throwing the game away. You certainly can't send your reinforcements in a flow it has to be in waves... especially with medivacs...
Fucking love Zerg QQ. I also love how all Zerg players see are Marines OP. Ignore the fact that MKP had tons of expensive medivacs which are Tier 3, MArines had 3/3 upgrades which is expensive and defended like a BOSS. Zerg Tears are the tastiest, fucking whine fest in here.
LOL. How much harder can you own somebody and still lose ..you have got to be fucking kidding me. This absurd imbalance is why I don't play thats garbage game anymore.
the commentary was very good and exciting, however it can get better! this commentary was kind focused on idra and even though marineking was doing a good job defending, his efforts and teching up was not highlighted.
To be honest, I don't think Idra is that good anymore. He does the same shit every match (Speedlings banelings mutas). And when you look at players like Nestea, they are just much better
@Naidrax Yeah, whenever my race loses, obviously it's due to imbalance. Certainly has got nothing to do with the fact that my opponent was 3/3 in upgrades and I was 2/0 in upgrades, only getting 2/1 towards the very end. Remember, my race wins = skill, my races loses = imbalance!
fully upgraded marines are just too good against everything; the problem is that they can hit both air and ground and does insane dps with tons off survivability when supported with heals; no other race have a tier 1 unit that works anywhere near as effective as mass marines late game; which is the imbalance off marines; this+ the fact that you can bug them out effectively moving at 66%+ speed while attacking with them makes them WAY op; no other unit can move and attack like this in the game
@Erebus2075 ps; yes it does take stupidly amount off micro skills; but still if no one else can do it even if they have the skills then its not a balance with the units
@Erebus2075 troll troll troll, there someone lost too much to Marines... Well the grass isnt greener on the other side my friend, terrans could cry about mutas being op too, in the end its all about composition/ skill and luck and in the end thats what makes a game interesting. Every race has some quite "OP" unit compositions if you dont counter it the right way!!!
@Thoomash1 because not everybody wants to play terran and we never said it's an auto win.It just has more priviledges than other races same tier units-thus it has more power than it should---> over powered.Zealots get only charge while lings get speed(useless without it)and a HIVE upgrade.But still....marines is anti air (REALLY good one)..Toss have the stalker(costs gas but still G-way unit) and zerg need to go tier 2 for antiair(offensive antiair-queen is defensive)
I'm a zerg fan, but MarineKing plays Terran so well!
(*Spoiler*)
MarineKing held at a crucial time with SCVs and Medivacs mutually repairing each others! Just a few marines were enough to do the damage and they were reinforced by a constant stream of new marines. Unbelievable.
I think a lot of people are overlooking the value of 3/3 upgrades. IdrA only got like 2 upgrades for his lings/blings so obviously 3/3 upgrades decimate 1/1 upgrades
marines are OP as hell. i dont care if ppl say that u have to micro them well, terrans have the best unit in the game from the onset. dis is crazy at best...
@Snowgooooose why? idra was so cost unefficient... look at the ressource lost tab and the amount of stray mutas he lost throughout the game... that isnt what u expect of a pro gamer...
@innerbeast415 All of those descriptors apply to the zergling except the health upgrade. Yet, even after the health upgrade two zerglings have more health than one marine.
@innerbeast415 Just wait until transforming Hellions in the next expansion... I'm really banking on them becoming as versatile as Marines, so that a "Mechball" strategy becomes a viable option.
Idra wasted way 2 many of his units dealing no damage. If you going up against someone called marine king and you chose mutas over fungal you deserve to lose rofl...
i watch all of the marine kings games on youtube he wins most of them to and he just rapes and gives me good ideas for builds and strategies i can use in my games as terran
@SirGecko01 obviously mutas arent the counter, never said they were. thats where banelings and speedlings come in. roaches arent really used as much in the tvz matchup..
MarineKing is the only one who's going to survive as Terran in HOS. Marines stim healing have always been just hella good, but microing like that is hard
I can't help but get pleasure from watching Idra get mopped up. He deserves to die a terrible, terrible death at the hands of a few little marines. That's Karma at it's best Terran fo the win.
@goku123super no, he didnt have the upper hand, mutas are good to harass, sure, but they are NOT marine's counter, idra should have made roachs, and some damn upgrades, marines were 3/3, quality over quantity.
@horamerda2 Marine:Tier 1 anti-air,costs 50 MINERALS!!! Stim pack ,combat shield,excelent cover from siege line + gets healed by medivac.Oh i forgot to say that its ranged as well....perfect counter for expensive units such Void rays ,Carriers,Mutas etc. Define marine counters plz?
@Ninitos1 ok i just saw your replies to other people.So you say roaches..did you even forget the siege line and the thors?So lets suppose that idra had 3/3 lings...would he overwhelm the marines?No..because siege tanks.Perfect cover for marines and with some micro he would be ok.Anyway,i am no raging but you have to admit that compared to the other 1st units,marine get the most upgrades and are the best and imbalanced.Please think about it.
@Ninitos1 I agree with u, marines are verry good, especially for that price. BUT, as someone else already said, u have to have a large number of them to be effective.
@slamcreper but offcourse,i never said you can win the game with 1.But eventually you WILL have tons of them since its only 50 minerals for such a great unit!The counters just cost way too much.
@Ninitos1 banelings, infestors, ht, archons!, colossus, tanks, planetary fortress, ravens seeker missile, yamato canon, carrier because of range, broodlords because of range - enough?
also u forget something... it takes a group of marines to be actually effective! so its not 50 minerals... its e.g. 500 minerals to counter effectively...
@SaleXchannel yes but all those things count MORE minerals than the marines in equal numbers + what really happens.(meaning ,one baneling sure can kill like 20 or more rines but it will never make it there...)All those things are HIGHER TECH than marines and still its ONLY MINERALS!be it 500 or 1000.Dude...seriously,10 marines stimmed drive back 2-3 rays or 10 mutas.Cmon seriously.
@Ninitos1 marines with combat shield, stim and medivac support are not T1. Also MK had 3/3 upgrades relatively quickly, while idra only had 0/2 on his lings for the majority of the match. If you have 0/2 while your opponent has 3/3, you deserve to lose period. 3/3 upgrades take a shit ton of time and resources to invest.
@lousycactus Actually i was talking about marines being OP in general-not about Idra and M-King.Marines are a Tier one unit that gets a TON of upgrades AND support(healing and covering-yo-ass from S-tanks).Thats is my point.Sorry if by what i typed you understood wrong,my fault.
@Ninitos1 umm pure marines are easy to counter with speedlings and banelings. Their combat shield and stim upgrades are T1.5 and take 280 seconds to upgrade in total. This means that it will be at least 7min+ into the game before they have stim and combat shield. By this time you should banelings at least. Tanks and medivacs are T2.5, not T1, and it's only fair that you have to tech up to counter these
@lousycactus You dont seem to get what i want to say.You can choose to have marines which is SO cheap,and look how many things they get!Things which you will eventually buy anyway(medivacs,tanks and their support to rines) plus the upgrades!What other races get for such a cheap units?My biggest objection about rines is their range,dps and that they are antiair...either one of these must be nerfed OR make medivacs non auto healing but micro healing(AOE) just like festors FG.
@Ninitos1 I perfectly understood what you are trying to say. You made an unfair comparison of a certain composition of units in order fuel your flawed argument of how powerful a particular unit is. I suggest you try (TRY) to understand the game better by playing the game from all perspectives instead of 1 particular race. If you do this you will understand the problems of all races and realise that 99% of the complaining that people do is just that, mindless idiotic complaining.
@lousycactus why all the hate man?All of a sudden you are the smart and i am idiot because i have a different opinion than you?How marines are NOT op?Please explain.I pointed all the support and upgrades they get.Especially the fact that they are ranged makes them op for the 1st unit in game.I insist that they should either nerf their dps OR range OR make the medivac healing micro-healing(AOE).
@Ninitos1 Several reasons why Marines aren't OP. First, the upgrades take a LONG time and precious resources early game. Second, ever heard of fungal growth? A few well placed fungals and that marine ball would be dead. Third, yes they are ranged, but stutter stepping away from lings/zealots requires quite a bit of micro. You should watch a game where WhiteRa kites marines using just stalkers.
@Blankydot Well if they didn't need micro they would be the ultimate unit...one would simply mass them and stim roll.Fungal growth is micro as well and an infestor cant get anywhere near the siege line.Thats very occasional and depends on the player A LOT ANd the battle scenario.All upgrades take precious resources.If not OP,then the other units are UP then.(zerlin zealot).Another thing they could alter is make the stim usage limited(2-3 times and thats it.)Thats what i think it would balance it
LISTEN UP KIDS. LISTEN UP.
Just play the damn game and enjoy the game. There has always been complains towards every race saying that they were OP. If you honestly believe another race is over powered then why don't you just play as them? None of you fully believe what you say. Don't blame blizzard for your own failures. You were all given the same choices laid before you.
MrKillerpumpkin 2 weeks ago
i hate terrans, they are op, theres no way you can explain that! i just want to see how many terran players will cry when zerg gets his own expansion, in wings of liberty terran are op, in heart of the swarm zerg will be op
somethinghaschanged1 2 weeks ago
Where the heck did all those marines come from?! Dude had no economy left.
Fernaculous 1 month ago in playlist IdrA [Z] vs MarineKing [T]
@Fernaculous he was sitting on 2k minerals, go figure :\
TigerClaws12894 1 month ago
@Fernaculous Doesn't matter if he loses workers. OP mules. Please nerf rines.
A7xFo 1 month ago
Thanks for posting this series Force.
HaploJH84 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
free SC2 vods only at racegh dot info
BennyTo449 2 months ago
It's easy to win when you don't have to expand and just make one unit cheap unit that can just walk right in.
tedstyle 2 months ago
@tedstyle if it's that easy, maybe you should play that race then.
startingsprinter 2 months ago
Heck of series, but that last game was really good by both players. I'm surprised Idra wasn't the victor.
webterrestrial 2 months ago
If rines are op what are mutas? I really dont know, some ppl are just stuck in sc2 how it was at release... The OP Terran times are over for months! Neither Marines nor Tanks nor reaper or anything else is OP anymore.
quAdxify 3 months ago
i hate how idra calls gg when he can still easily win :( no reinforcements are on the way from marine king; and idra got a huge economic adv and still 900minerals for a army :/ ow well
Erebus2075 3 months ago
Badass game, great casting, GO MARINE KING!
Salted4 3 months ago 6
@mrtigerman4ever in Bronze league.
rockaquaka 4 months ago
Comment removed
rockaquaka 4 months ago
first time see Idra said gg!
thang24101991 4 months ago
These players are both so amazing. Idra with his incredible macro and good micro and marineking with his INSANE marine micro and army manadgement. I loved this series a lot.
nikkenwannab 4 months ago
7:10 Idra floating 1.3k minerals?
Whu-whu-whught!?
MadBagOfHorses 4 months ago
Look at all the fucks I don't give, they're just falling from the sky!
ThePedrophile 4 months ago
fuck Terran. I just baneling the fuck outta them...gg
mrtigerman4ever 4 months ago
The guy's name is MarineKing, he's best with marines, they're not op
boonai 4 months ago
from 13:30 on it is just Idra throwing the game away. You certainly can't send your reinforcements in a flow it has to be in waves... especially with medivacs...
sinekonata 4 months ago
@sinekonata Typical Idramove to rally into the fight and losing 50 supply worth of units for nothing
Estmn 4 months ago
Idra y u no make spine crawlers at expansions?
pedroluizb 4 months ago
MKP Why u no make turrets?
SirFrancisBaconn 4 months ago
Wow. MKP is REALLY the Marine King. Amazing.
LordPericulum 4 months ago
hah.. like how idra got agresive after he got owned in G1 cuz he didnt harss! good games! awsome players!
Fowsed 4 months ago in playlist Другие видео от пользователя ForceSC2strategy
Fucking love Zerg QQ. I also love how all Zerg players see are Marines OP. Ignore the fact that MKP had tons of expensive medivacs which are Tier 3, MArines had 3/3 upgrades which is expensive and defended like a BOSS. Zerg Tears are the tastiest, fucking whine fest in here.
bubba18sar 4 months ago
LOL. How much harder can you own somebody and still lose ..you have got to be fucking kidding me. This absurd imbalance is why I don't play thats garbage game anymore.
stirwins333 4 months ago
@stirwins333 Good. One less whiny bitch I have to see on the ladder.
bubba18sar 4 months ago
@bubba18sar One less thickheaded Terran who thinks he's good I have to see.
stirwins333 4 months ago
*Spoiler*
dmortang42 4 months ago
why the freak would you go for supply depots???? all that time couldve been focusing down a command center or kill of scvs... -_-
cdang 4 months ago in playlist More videos from ForceSC2strategy
the commentary was very good and exciting, however it can get better! this commentary was kind focused on idra and even though marineking was doing a good job defending, his efforts and teching up was not highlighted.
xiaozozo 4 months ago
@xiaozozo well game 1 was a little Marineking focused, so I think its 1-1 ;)
AdvocatusMortis 4 months ago
Comment removed
ralekIX 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Idra's number one in-game problem next to whining is lack of upgrading.
UnityAmongstChaos 4 months ago
Comment removed
UnityAmongstChaos 4 months ago
LOCKED
blacksworn2010 4 months ago
To be honest, I don't think Idra is that good anymore. He does the same shit every match (Speedlings banelings mutas). And when you look at players like Nestea, they are just much better
mc1989ish 4 months ago
@evolve236 esports needs more girl gamers!
hugmeshootme 4 months ago
wasnt the marines running to the banelings at the end cost effective to marineking and done in purpose?
siegetank55 4 months ago
wtf how did idra lost he was winning the game but then makes like 1 mistake and loses... terran is OP
Naidrax 4 months ago
@Naidrax Yeah, whenever my race loses, obviously it's due to imbalance. Certainly has got nothing to do with the fact that my opponent was 3/3 in upgrades and I was 2/0 in upgrades, only getting 2/1 towards the very end. Remember, my race wins = skill, my races loses = imbalance!
lousycactus 4 months ago
Marines not OP.. Marines with 3 - 3 and MKP micro is just too good for zerglings and muta's
AzamatoTheGreat 4 months ago 19
Comment removed
Erebus2075 3 months ago
fully upgraded marines are just too good against everything; the problem is that they can hit both air and ground and does insane dps with tons off survivability when supported with heals; no other race have a tier 1 unit that works anywhere near as effective as mass marines late game; which is the imbalance off marines; this+ the fact that you can bug them out effectively moving at 66%+ speed while attacking with them makes them WAY op; no other unit can move and attack like this in the game
Erebus2075 3 months ago
@Erebus2075 ps; yes it does take stupidly amount off micro skills; but still if no one else can do it even if they have the skills then its not a balance with the units
Erebus2075 3 months ago
@Erebus2075 MKP decided to go with upgraded marines, IdrA should have had more infestors + banelings.
AzamatoTheGreat 3 months ago
@Erebus2075 troll troll troll, there someone lost too much to Marines... Well the grass isnt greener on the other side my friend, terrans could cry about mutas being op too, in the end its all about composition/ skill and luck and in the end thats what makes a game interesting. Every race has some quite "OP" unit compositions if you dont counter it the right way!!!
quAdxify 3 months ago
So.... if marines are so damn overpowered then why doesn't everybody play terran and just mass marines?
Thoomash1 4 months ago 13
@Thoomash1 it's not fun
ShowTheMachine 4 months ago
@Thoomash1 because not everybody wants to play terran and we never said it's an auto win.It just has more priviledges than other races same tier units-thus it has more power than it should---> over powered.Zealots get only charge while lings get speed(useless without it)and a HIVE upgrade.But still....marines is anti air (REALLY good one)..Toss have the stalker(costs gas but still G-way unit) and zerg need to go tier 2 for antiair(offensive antiair-queen is defensive)
Ninitos1 4 months ago
@Thoomash1 Because they're not actually over powered :)
xluryan 4 months ago
@Thoomash1 Because of psionic storm.
alecrulesathalo 4 months ago
@Thoomash1
Because that would be boring. It would work, but it would be boring.
Zeratul723 3 months ago
@Thoomash1 alot of people do 1/2 the people in the top leagues that is what they do so idk what ur talking about
Antioxidantt 3 months ago
UNBELIEVABLE GAME!
I'm a zerg fan, but MarineKing plays Terran so well!
(*Spoiler*)
MarineKing held at a crucial time with SCVs and Medivacs mutually repairing each others! Just a few marines were enough to do the damage and they were reinforced by a constant stream of new marines. Unbelievable.
doe791 4 months ago
Whaaaaaaat???*??
PesarTarofi 4 months ago
Marineking's Micro is absurd.
resparee 4 months ago
MarineKing=epic
notafan21 4 months ago
Idra was 2-1 vs 3-3. Medivac is same tier as mutas and stim/combat is tier 1.5.
dadumbazz 4 months ago
Marineking's tactic is obvisious
Sagsul 4 months ago
idra man... your upsetting me! you shoulda won that one! all you needed were sum roaches and sum upgrades! cmon man
Johnywang1 4 months ago
Cast more marineKing if u find some please :)
xanteee 4 months ago 3
That seriously was one of the most unexpected outcomes I've seen in a while. Awesome game.
TheKylefreeman 4 months ago 2
Sodding spoilers!
ANTI SPOILER POST!
henokhenke 4 months ago
That is why you need infestors.
imkayzie 4 months ago
@imkayzie yep :) 3 3 marines is just wtf
Plusimurfriend 4 months ago
OP Marines
TwilightAdjudicator 4 months ago
@TwilightAdjudicator they arent OP they are humans with drugs that allow them to run faster and somehow upgrades their weapons to shoot faster
Plusimurfriend 4 months ago
@TwilightAdjudicator Marines are OK, MarineKing is OP :P
WrynnCZ 4 months ago
that was bullshit not spoiling anything
SmurfOntheRocks 4 months ago
13:50 IdrA practically had won the game
*marine micro*
15:07 IdrA call the gg
WTF?
MonoCabron123 4 months ago
I think a lot of people are overlooking the value of 3/3 upgrades. IdrA only got like 2 upgrades for his lings/blings so obviously 3/3 upgrades decimate 1/1 upgrades
MMOKing 4 months ago
lol @ all these bronze leaguers discussing balance
Margull 4 months ago 4
And this is why terran is op...
ThomasRichterSC2 4 months ago
@ThomasRichterSC2 so bad
omgwicked1 4 months ago
marines are OP as hell. i dont care if ppl say that u have to micro them well, terrans have the best unit in the game from the onset. dis is crazy at best...
yungtris77 4 months ago
@yungtris77 then play terran and u will see just how wrong u r XP
SaleXchannel 4 months ago
@yungtris77 When you have 3/3 upgrades vs your opponents 2/0... what do you think is going to happen? Whiners will be whiners I guess
lousycactus 4 months ago
WTF?
yuning727 4 months ago
I think we can safely say mkp did not deserve this win
Snowgooooose 4 months ago
@Snowgooooose why? idra was so cost unefficient... look at the ressource lost tab and the amount of stray mutas he lost throughout the game... that isnt what u expect of a pro gamer...
SaleXchannel 4 months ago
@Snowgooooose 3/3 upgrades vs 2/0 (2/1 only towards the end)... yup he definitely deserved to win
lousycactus 4 months ago
marines op?
XLaNiAcKx 4 months ago
Hey force, can you do a strategy guide for this build? =D
teccho 4 months ago
Awesome game.
thedude200710 4 months ago
updates ftw
horamerda2 4 months ago
High DPS
Cheap Cost
Small Size
Low Tech
Attack Speed Upgrade
Movement Speed Upgrade
Health Upgrade
Verdict: Marine GOOD UNIT.
innerbeast415 4 months ago 60
@innerbeast415 n dont forget those great SCVs who gamble their lives on the battlefield to repair those Medivacs!!! all hail SCVs!!! =D
Jerrytancc 4 months ago
@innerbeast415 You forgot: shoots both air and ground... The only thing missing is revealer...
Sambuca986 4 months ago
@innerbeast415 All of those descriptors apply to the zergling except the health upgrade. Yet, even after the health upgrade two zerglings have more health than one marine.
blkbait 4 months ago
@innerbeast415 But very easly rappable-Medium unit.(speedlings on creep and banelings on creep (with speed of course))
renamorcen 4 months ago
@innerbeast415 Just wait until transforming Hellions in the next expansion... I'm really banking on them becoming as versatile as Marines, so that a "Mechball" strategy becomes a viable option.
timedforpress 4 months ago
why the fuck cant i ever do that
fatmaru 4 months ago
Idra shithead lose a lot of units to harassment.
H7AT10 4 months ago
anti spoiler
colwk 4 months ago 3
ahahahahahahahaha
lordstorm88 4 months ago 2
Idra wasted way 2 many of his units dealing no damage. If you going up against someone called marine king and you chose mutas over fungal you deserve to lose rofl...
xujploxjux 4 months ago 2
holy shit....PERFECT harassment by Idra...
DEIMOSLOL 4 months ago
marines out of nowhere FTW!!!
FOOFOO7891011 4 months ago
gg marine king
ajmonster1 4 months ago
Long LIVE the KING!
SirGecko01 4 months ago 33
i watch all of the marine kings games on youtube he wins most of them to and he just rapes and gives me good ideas for builds and strategies i can use in my games as terran
141Wingman 4 months ago
SUP FOR THE LADIES WATCHING! i'm a lady.
evolve236 4 months ago
Beautiful game.
tamukuro 4 months ago
That was crazy. Good job marine.
TheBagman85 4 months ago
Happens to me all the time. Terran is too strong. But its ok, we zergs will improve!
UrLaoBei 4 months ago
Ugh, I hate watching Idra lose so many mutalisks.
Malcer28 4 months ago
Keeping up in upgrades is part of the game. Especially against rushed 3/3 ups.
BlckSbthMan 4 months ago
14 hatch
TonyXiong92 4 months ago
It makes me happy to see Greg playing so confidently this series regardless of the results. Really enjoyable series
ManIsFive1 4 months ago
As a terran player but a big fan of idra, this was tough to watch. What in gods name did idra have to do to win? He outplayed mk the whole game!
v3tt3dud3220 4 months ago 2
@v3tt3dud3220 Roaches? LOL!
Mutas are not the counter to Marines, especially when they are 3/3. Mutas were 1/0. PFF!
SirGecko01 4 months ago
@SirGecko01 obviously mutas arent the counter, never said they were. thats where banelings and speedlings come in. roaches arent really used as much in the tvz matchup..
v3tt3dud3220 4 months ago
I'm torn... I hate watching marines slaughter like that... but I also love watching idra lose...
Selushakai 4 months ago in playlist StarCraft 2 Commentary 2
lol imba micro right there
NooBIELoL1 4 months ago
Fucking pathetic bullshit.
HeiligZorn 4 months ago
MK is the reason why I absolutely love Terran Bio in every matchup.
Akukami21 4 months ago
i switch terran nao <3
pure0pwnage 4 months ago
MarineKing is the only one who's going to survive as Terran in HOS. Marines stim healing have always been just hella good, but microing like that is hard
noJutsu1000 4 months ago
I can't help but get pleasure from watching Idra get mopped up. He deserves to die a terrible, terrible death at the hands of a few little marines. That's Karma at it's best Terran fo the win.
TheSalacommander 4 months ago
Y U NO SHOW IDRA'S GROUND UPGRADES
BlckSbthMan 4 months ago
fuck terrans
PayNedaking 4 months ago
Nice. MarineKing is like SeleCT on crack.
VerumAdNauseam 4 months ago
He under estimates the power of marinekng's micro and the 33 upgrades marines. He should just wait couple mins and engage with infestors.
ComeForPeace 4 months ago
Lol, that's why he is called marineking. Idra is too confident at the last engagement. He under
ComeForPeace 4 months ago
marines op
ScaretacticFhang 4 months ago
so much better micro on teran player
Theak47forall 4 months ago
the few ? ... the proud.....the MARINES!
visbaluz 4 months ago 2
Stupid Idra micro better
spaceorbison 4 months ago
I have never seen a player with such a huge lead who was playing so well lose like that...
deano3041 4 months ago
Marine King! bless
8wealthyone8 4 months ago
Oh my god, this game was really epic, I can't believe it!!!
MoralidadMty 4 months ago
moar marine king and idra rage!
scootering12345 4 months ago
IdrA punted that game badly. But Terran only need Mule's and marines to beat Zerg anymore.
whutbrush 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
MarineKing tried two marine assaults, both of them failed.
Idra responded by going muta harass.
MarineKing goes thor defense.
Idra responded by going ling assault.
MarineKing fails to defend or harass in return, giving Idra complete control of the game.
At 12:50, Idra stops his muta harass/ ling assault combo and retreats for some reason.
MarineKing responds with marine assault and regains control.
Idra, having no defense, fails to stop it and calls the gg.
MatRavven 4 months ago
Terran so OP
Heavymetalswimmer 4 months ago
Comment removed
MatRavven 4 months ago
Comment removed
MatRavven 4 months ago
Infestor is the counter to that and Idra simply did not build any.
Cascademenace 4 months ago
idra spams the creep
superfisto 4 months ago
how many barracks was marine king running off?
emoboi951 4 months ago
@emoboi951 At the end it was 8 marines per cycle, so either 4 with reactors or 8 without, or somewhere inbetween
ecokrazy 4 months ago
what a beast
tee23en 4 months ago
OMFG ... im suprised that IdrA even called the GG
HerrProfDrDark 4 months ago
I am sorry Idra had the upperhand the whole game. Idra was the winner in that game.
goku123super 4 months ago
@goku123super yet marine king won?
tee23en 4 months ago
@goku123super how is idar the winner. marine king won u dumbas
Andrew1434In 4 months ago
@Andrew1434In READ MORE CAREFULLY plz.
goku123super 4 months ago
@goku123super shut up kid
Andrew1434In 4 months ago
@goku123super no, he didnt have the upper hand, mutas are good to harass, sure, but they are NOT marine's counter, idra should have made roachs, and some damn upgrades, marines were 3/3, quality over quantity.
horamerda2 4 months ago
@horamerda2 Yup those 50 mineral T1 units are pretty quality :P
Schlamp96 4 months ago
Well... he is Marine King!
ashbringer1211 4 months ago
Summary: The Terran pumps marines, then produces more marines followed by... more marines.
He then moves into Tier 3 with.. more marines.. Got to love terran /sarcasm
nacs 4 months ago
And that is why marines are op.
Ninitos1 4 months ago
@Ninitos1 cause the stupid enemies dont buy marine counters ? yeah....right.
horamerda2 4 months ago
@horamerda2 Marine:Tier 1 anti-air,costs 50 MINERALS!!! Stim pack ,combat shield,excelent cover from siege line + gets healed by medivac.Oh i forgot to say that its ranged as well....perfect counter for expensive units such Void rays ,Carriers,Mutas etc. Define marine counters plz?
Ninitos1 4 months ago
@Ninitos1 ok i just saw your replies to other people.So you say roaches..did you even forget the siege line and the thors?So lets suppose that idra had 3/3 lings...would he overwhelm the marines?No..because siege tanks.Perfect cover for marines and with some micro he would be ok.Anyway,i am no raging but you have to admit that compared to the other 1st units,marine get the most upgrades and are the best and imbalanced.Please think about it.
Ninitos1 4 months ago
@Ninitos1 I agree with u, marines are verry good, especially for that price. BUT, as someone else already said, u have to have a large number of them to be effective.
slamcreper 4 months ago
@slamcreper but offcourse,i never said you can win the game with 1.But eventually you WILL have tons of them since its only 50 minerals for such a great unit!The counters just cost way too much.
Ninitos1 4 months ago
@Ninitos1 banelings, infestors, ht, archons!, colossus, tanks, planetary fortress, ravens seeker missile, yamato canon, carrier because of range, broodlords because of range - enough?
also u forget something... it takes a group of marines to be actually effective! so its not 50 minerals... its e.g. 500 minerals to counter effectively...
SaleXchannel 4 months ago
@SaleXchannel yes but all those things count MORE minerals than the marines in equal numbers + what really happens.(meaning ,one baneling sure can kill like 20 or more rines but it will never make it there...)All those things are HIGHER TECH than marines and still its ONLY MINERALS!be it 500 or 1000.Dude...seriously,10 marines stimmed drive back 2-3 rays or 10 mutas.Cmon seriously.
Ninitos1 4 months ago
@Ninitos1 marines with combat shield, stim and medivac support are not T1. Also MK had 3/3 upgrades relatively quickly, while idra only had 0/2 on his lings for the majority of the match. If you have 0/2 while your opponent has 3/3, you deserve to lose period. 3/3 upgrades take a shit ton of time and resources to invest.
lousycactus 4 months ago
@lousycactus Actually i was talking about marines being OP in general-not about Idra and M-King.Marines are a Tier one unit that gets a TON of upgrades AND support(healing and covering-yo-ass from S-tanks).Thats is my point.Sorry if by what i typed you understood wrong,my fault.
Ninitos1 4 months ago
@Ninitos1 umm pure marines are easy to counter with speedlings and banelings. Their combat shield and stim upgrades are T1.5 and take 280 seconds to upgrade in total. This means that it will be at least 7min+ into the game before they have stim and combat shield. By this time you should banelings at least. Tanks and medivacs are T2.5, not T1, and it's only fair that you have to tech up to counter these
lousycactus 4 months ago
@lousycactus You dont seem to get what i want to say.You can choose to have marines which is SO cheap,and look how many things they get!Things which you will eventually buy anyway(medivacs,tanks and their support to rines) plus the upgrades!What other races get for such a cheap units?My biggest objection about rines is their range,dps and that they are antiair...either one of these must be nerfed OR make medivacs non auto healing but micro healing(AOE) just like festors FG.
Ninitos1 4 months ago
@Ninitos1 I perfectly understood what you are trying to say. You made an unfair comparison of a certain composition of units in order fuel your flawed argument of how powerful a particular unit is. I suggest you try (TRY) to understand the game better by playing the game from all perspectives instead of 1 particular race. If you do this you will understand the problems of all races and realise that 99% of the complaining that people do is just that, mindless idiotic complaining.
lousycactus 4 months ago
@lousycactus why all the hate man?All of a sudden you are the smart and i am idiot because i have a different opinion than you?How marines are NOT op?Please explain.I pointed all the support and upgrades they get.Especially the fact that they are ranged makes them op for the 1st unit in game.I insist that they should either nerf their dps OR range OR make the medivac healing micro-healing(AOE).
Ninitos1 4 months ago
@Ninitos1 Several reasons why Marines aren't OP. First, the upgrades take a LONG time and precious resources early game. Second, ever heard of fungal growth? A few well placed fungals and that marine ball would be dead. Third, yes they are ranged, but stutter stepping away from lings/zealots requires quite a bit of micro. You should watch a game where WhiteRa kites marines using just stalkers.
Blankydot 4 months ago
@Blankydot Well if they didn't need micro they would be the ultimate unit...one would simply mass them and stim roll.Fungal growth is micro as well and an infestor cant get anywhere near the siege line.Thats very occasional and depends on the player A LOT ANd the battle scenario.All upgrades take precious resources.If not OP,then the other units are UP then.(zerlin zealot).Another thing they could alter is make the stim usage limited(2-3 times and thats it.)Thats what i think it would balance it
Ninitos1 4 months ago
@Ninitos1 It is balanced at the level you're playing it at so stfu and stop QQing.
SirFrancisBaconn 4 months ago