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  • secondly, to zoklor, democrats tend to be elected when the common man is struggling financially. why is this? because the democratic party has the interest of the people in mind, where as the republicans strive to protect corporations and wealthy americans. although obama may have received some southern white votes, this may be largely because of something called the "reverse bradley effect", not a rejection of racism.

  • @wolfgangfaust - no proof???? do you ever read the comments left in the anti-healthcare videos that your pals are posting on youtube? i hate to play the guilt by association game, but you know what they say about birds of a feather.

  • omg - talk about a limited audience - where was Fox when Bush was speaking/

  • give them a little anonymity, and you will quickly smell the wretched stench of racism that runs deep in their veins.

  • nowadays, its really hard to tell who is a piece of shit racist, because they don't come out and say it like they did 50 years ago. but its really surprising, the amount of racism that is rampant all over the comment boards on youtube tells me that people still are racist. and they tend to be john wayne, gun slingin republicans.

  • Claiming someone is racist when there is no proof that they are racist is you telling yourself a story. This is what cognitive therapists deal with -- helping the patient to understand the difference between truth and fiction and to identify and remove the stories that the patient tells themselves about reality and their life, in order to stay in their safe zone, or to deny the reality of their situation, or to avoid personal responsibility or thoughtfulness. The question is a valid one.

  • After hearing about the KOS call to impersonate protesters online and discredit them, I looked around at posts. I found LLORT3 calling people the N word and railing against Obamacare (watch?v=0iJHYMyvRtA)

    ). I saw his page, friends and other video posts where in tune with Obamacare and it was a newer Canadian account.

    Don't confront them. They will just delete things and deny. Just take video and screen shots. People can see through these tactics and Alinsky. We see they are desperate.

  • Fox news and the racist people out there is mad for 3 reason

    1. He's black

    2. He has control over congress

    3.They feel powerless

  • Yeah it couldnt possibly be because they disagree with his positions. No they must be racist. MORON

  • Yeah Jnicelap, say that when our dollar is worth 10 cents. He would not be president if all the republicans and conservatives were racist. Stop playing the racist shit, it is more ignorant then the racist himself.

  • Very clear. Let's agree & say they were talking about killing Ayers. Palin is linking Ayers directly to Obama as being =. Your argument makes no sense...

  • "Kill him" was referring to Obama...

  • Again, I explained the correct information, the link is here idlltDAonAU

    No one barely know's who Bill Ayers was, when she was speaking in 3rd person about Obama. "Kill him" was shouted at a McCain/Palin rally. Once with McCain speaking, & once with Palin speaking. Perhaps you can explain the calls of "terrorist", "musilam", "kill him", "socialist" when he has similar policy to Bush?

  • Calling me a "liar" is like shouting people down at a town hall. At a McCain/Palin rally a man yelled "Kill him". It's clear, documented, & fact. If you can't deal with it, that's not my issue. The Times-Tribune reported, after the "Straight Talk Express" deposited Alaska Gov. Palin at the Riverfront Sports Complex to speak to a crowd of about 4,500, one audience member shouted "Kill him!" amid audience booing as GOP congressional candidate Chris Hackett mentioned Obama. Try idlltDAonAU

  • "Liberbal lies"? On October 7th at a McCain Palin rally the words shouted were "Kill him" dolt. If you feel rioting, revolution, or violence are the answer when you loose an election, bring it on. America will put you down like a rabid dog...

    Liberal, moderate, independent, republican. It all doesn't matter when you are clearly fucking nuts pal...

  • A short time ago Fox News was calling protesting a President during time of war unaMerican.

    LOL@FauxNews

  • This is a joke. Notice how disappointed the Fox "news" so called reporters are that they are not seeing a "real town hall meeting" as if the others were real and implying this was not.

    Also note how much time they spent on discussing the issues... none. They were so disappointed that they were seeing a civil discourse that they cut off coverage while all other new networks continued broadcasting it without interruption.

    This is not a new operation.

  • You know, some people are just going to have to be drug into the 21st century. In 1776 there were not 300 million Americans. Sometimes reality bites. Get used to it.

  • Scale of population should not effect principles of government. It is the intrusion of political ideology that corrupts the principles of government. Our constitution has principles for a many generations to live by.

  • Losing control? That would imply he once had control. How cute.

  • at Bush's town halls people were kicked out for t-shirts and many had to take loyalty oaths to get in. So don't let these conservatards try to twist it and say only the left does this.

  • I dont doubt that happens on both sides. The problem is people seem to be on Obama's nuts so bad, that they are seeming to ignore the issues. You can see this in the media, they are no longer the "watchdog" of the government.

  • the sold out cretins forced members of congress to vote on cap and trade without even seeing the actual bill being voted on. the official copy distributed did not include 300 pages of amendments. health care fraud is no different.

    PROSTITICIANS ARE STEAMROLLING BILLS BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP DAILY TO SEE THE GOVERNMENTAL CORRUPTION, LIES AND THEFT

    GOVERNMENT IS NOT THE ANSWER, GOVERNMENT IS CANCER

  • things have "changed"-watch this:

    "Shocking Hypocrisy Audio Found Obama didn't like it when Bush Rushed Through Legislation"

    radio interview with Randi Rhodes in 2004.

    now obama demands laws are passed without reading the bill. the pens need to be removed from the corrupt bastards' hands in congress before they continue signing our countrys' death warrant

  • barry brought up a good point in his "astroturf" town hall meeting when he pointed out that everything government touches turns into shit. "reverse midas touch"

    "UPS and FED EX are doing just fine, it's the post office having all the problems. . . . "

    -B.O. 11 august 2009 (maybe we should have barney frank duplicate his mortgage magic on healthcare. . . .)

    watch: "post office"

  • His "townhalls" have more plants than Home Depot!

  • They don't. Unlike former president Bush, dissent is not stepped on by a boot heel & any opposing questions never let it. For his press big TV conferences, he has over 30 media people from all over, then says, "Be prepared, I might call on you, & you can ask your question". In fact that's how Lynn Sweet asked the Gates question because all her healthcare questions were already asked. The problem is people are shouting, lying, & screaming, yet there's not even a full bill done yet...

  • Dissent hasn't been stepped on by boot & heel? Both sides keep comparing each other to Hitler and the Nazis. You have the left using unions, promoting favoritism, and comparing anyone who disagrees a racist.

    It may be a softer boot, but it's a boot nonetheless.

  • Screaming & shouting people down is trying to choke the Democracy in order to get what you desire...

    It's sick, wrong, & sad. Many of the people at Tea parties, birthers, & now town hallers are racist. Some are not. The bottom line is that if one were to objectively look back at Obama, he's continuing the policy of GW Bush in a new package. If it's similar policy, the only difference is what he looks like, right? So when Bush bailed-out AIG, Wall Street, & big auto I didn't hear boo.

  • Did you get the media talking points bullets? Just curious.

    You didn't hear boo when Bush bailed out Wall Street? Funny I didn't see it on CNN ethier. I did see the protests on YouTube.

    Now you claim that Obama is continuing the policies of Bush, but to criticize him is basically being racist. How do you reconcile that?

    Personally, I as much as I want to believe Obama is different his actions haven't shown he is.

  • What are you talking about? What specific protests when Bush passed three huge pieces of bailout reform?

    I claimed that "criticizing him is basically being racist"? No, but for people who didn't say shit when Bush did the EXACT same thing Obama is doing, in now calling the exact same actions Socialist, I have to question their motives. So it's OK when "you're guy does A", but is "Socialist evil when a black guy does A". Think about it...

  • All you have to do is type in YouTube Protests. It's all there.

    "It's sick, wrong, & sad. Many of the people at Tea parties, birthers, & now town hallers are racist. Some are not. " That's what you said up above.

    Third point, I'm at a toss up on which one is more evil Bush or Obama. Bush's agenda was for a pure dictaorship and Obama is just continuing it. Both ethier way they are both moving us in the wrong direction.

    I've criticized both equally. So what does that make me?

  • SPECIFICALLY, what protests against Bush bailouts. Please name one...

    Clearly you did not read the "some are not part"...

    A Libertarian? I like Dr. Paul. I tend to loose him when he wants to cut the FBI, BOE, & many other programs that work...

  • I told you. Just go search on YouTube. It's all there.

    Yet you same some are, basically saying guilt by association.

    The FBI did not prevent 9/11, BOE does nothing for Education. The federal goverment should be limited to it's role within the Constituion. Many of those services could easily be given to the states (especially with the advances we've made in technology).

  • So you didn't protest & have no specific instances where pro-Bush people protested against his bailouts. Thank you...

    I am not. A reasonable person can conclude I said, "Many are, some aren't". NOT guilt by association. Only those who truly hate have it in their heart & that's for them to decide. I think it's all rather sick, & sad...

    Neat. Then we have to cut the Post Office, Army, FDIC, BOE, Medicare, Social Security, etc since they are ALSO government run. Right?

  • Why is it I have to protest at one of these? I wrote letters to my Congressmen and even called. Only to see them do the total opposite.

    I don't think your rational. You can't give me any specific example of racial tensions (other than the SIEU issue) at these Town Hall meetings.

    The Post Office could be replaced by private sector. The Army could be replaced by the National Guard. THe FDIC, BOE don't work. Medicare and SS are on the verge of bankruptcy.

    Central planning sucks.

  • I'm asked for "specific anti-Bush bailout protests", you tell me to "search Youtube". You didn't provide them...

    Swastica's on signs at Doggertt rally & spray painted on a representatives sign, & now "Death Camps" waking Nazi Germany images. Really? No fucking really? If one does not call the actions of a white man "Socialist", yet the exact same actions of a black man "Socialist" what do you call it? They are all the people from campaign 08 who shouted Kill him!, Terrorist & Socialist

  • Type in Wall Street Protests. They are all there. They started as soon as Bush announced them. Why it wasn't mainstream news is beyond me.

    Ah, so people protesting against socialism and fascism can't use Nazi imagery? (Don't get me wrong I feel Godwin's Law definately applies here).

    What about when they did it to Bush? Why is it okay to do the same thing to Bush and not Obama? Isn't that freeing Obama from criticism? Shouldn't dissenters be able to express themselves with the 1st?

  • Thank you Kapan60. That makes sense. Those people are not the teabaggers, birthers, or town hallers...

    I am actually proud of those people for using their rights. Good on them...

    Do you recall on the campaign trail the monkey with Obama? How about the "he's not one of us, he's a terrorist" old lady in OH? This is carry over IMO...

  • You really don't think there are newscasters out looking and zooming in on that stuff? It gets them ratings along with getting to antaogize someone in front of the camera.

    Honestly, the whole spectrum of American politics is pretty damm insane. We spend so much time calling each Nazi's we don't watch what both parties are actually doing.

    I wasn't suprised Obama backed all of Bush's policies after getting elected. 2006 taught me that.

  • It wasn't newcasters. It was internet reporters Kapan...

    I watch all news from CNN, to MSNBC, to Fox Noise(for entertainment), to papers, to blogs, to youtube...

    I consider myself informed, yet never as much as I should be. When a "Hitler" reference makes an appearance, I usually tune out b/c it's irrational stupidity...

  • Regardless of who the internet reporters are they get fringe people for ratings the same way.

    I do the same. I see the same BS from both sides.

  • There has to be "a happy medium" ??????

    Oh my God - did he ever see the speeches Bush gave to his supporters?

  • Bush had supporters?

  • Oh NO.. You cannot have a free crowd.

    You have to hand pick them for the correct media representation.

  • The host admits that it is not pre-screened and that the tickets were distributed by lottery. That means that it couldn't be highjacked by astroturf right-wing militants. Clear evidence that the majority of people are not militant and actually in favor of healthcare reform. But the idiot guest says, yeah, yeah, whatever, the big picture is that Obama is losing out. Frickin' idiot. Can Fox EVER give a balanced report? Nope.

  • Your assuming just because people didn't get up and yell they were for this so-called "healthcare reform"? Not to mention it would be pretty damm easy to decide which side gets tickets since they were already well seperated even before the President arrived.

  • any American that thinks they are getting a good deal from the insurance companies is delusional. stop whining, you sound ridiculous and you are only serving your corporate masters, don't even THINK about flipping this around with your el Rushbo jujitsu. Canadians get better deals on percription medicine because their gov't fought for the people and the REPUBICANS and big pharma under Bush saw to it we AMERICANS PAID and CONTINUE TO PAY THRU THE NOSE! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

  • I like my corporate masters. They don't have guns or jails.

  • We should all be so glad that Fox News commentators made the same criticisms of the dog and pony shows of the last six-odd years.

    I am also *especially* interested in Mr. McGurn's view on "loyalty oath" entrance requirements- which were in place for a quite a long time.

  • It's a freaking show...........a monkey show for rest of the country, no real substance, no details, not a thing, pure campaign speech BS.

  • Why are there people with such mean signs?

    Totally staged.

  • Staged? Damn right. That audience was stocked full of liberals who quite obviously know nothing about the bill. What a joke.

  • Wondertool you are too stupid. You must be a liberal Dem sent here to make republicans look bad!

  • Manufactured media event. Broadway musicals don't have this much choreography.

  • JayAreDubay

    And nobody has ever "DANCED" around the subject as wonderfully as Obama.

  • FOX "news" didn't show the town hall today.I had to watch it on CNN.Msnbc also carried it live,without interruption. Shame on FOX!

  • What do you expect, Fox doesn't want to let their idiot views hear facts, and truths about his plan. They would rather demonize, and falsify everything. Just listen to these two idiots. Also, secret service isn't going to allow these wing bats in, they might do something. These rightwing fucktards are already bringing guns.

  • AND? CNN AND MSNBC NEVER showed Bush. Come on I knew what channel to switch on today to watch. Just as I knew where to go for Bush.

  • Your guy is on TV everyday , ABC even hosted a whole day for him in the WH.

  • My guy wast taken seriously by the media.

    That's right "My Guy" Ron Paul barely gets any t.v. time at all! Thank You!

  • Well.. I like Ron Paul too.

  • otownsteelers

    Please have another Colt 45, 32oncer and watch the tivo.....oops.....sorry , I guess your in LA, LA Land and I don't mean Los Angeles. Obama didn't do a Town Hall, he did a Con Man presentation. Not one of his questionnaires were picked at random.

  • I realize you are blinded by your racism. Jesus may, may still love you even if I think you are another worthless racist not worthy of breathing the same air as the rest of us. But guess what....I'm white I have never had a 32ouncer but I do drink beer. Usually a czech beer owned by Belgians called Budweiser. Thank you for the imagery and the laugh.

  • otownsteelers

    Just as I figured. Your so stupid you don't see the point of my comment. Colt 45 is not consumed by any certain group except the same people that drink MD 20/20. What a fool that can't get the symbolism.

    May be you get your constant state of euphoria from something more nefarious.

  • wtf, it was on fox dumb ass.

  • If you think a little box picture of the president with the sound is down while Tucker Carlson speaks-is carrying it.. I think Ive found a dumb ass! W.T.F.!

  • Why don't you go back to your van down by the river? FoxNews, "The Live Desk." carried it in full screen for 1/2 hour, until it was clear to everyone with a brain that he 1) had planted nobody in opposition, except 1 spineless moron who melted when he winked at her. And 2) He was spewing the same crap we've all heard before. Your exact words were that FoxNews "did not show the town hall." Typical. More shit coming out of your mouth than your ass.

  • I have a house on a lake but I guess that would be about as close to correct as someone like you could get. I still don't get how screaming and shouting means "real Americans" are in the building and respectful questions and answers mean the building is devoid of Republicans! Do you think before you say something or is it an involuntary action? Just because someone isn't acting like an ass hole doesn't mean they aren't a "real republican"!

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