To people saying this isn't standard. 3-hatch lurker is pretty fuckin standard, not even close to cheese. People can't accept that Flash got his ass handed to him
starcraft 2 sucks so bad the ums is way to diffrent the hot keys are messed up I hate the fell of it broodwar is so much better there is resson why its 2011 and the koreans are still holding broodwar tournments
@xunap Only strong early game, and look at the huge disadvantage Flash had. Drops actually are really not effective vs terran this game was just phenomenon!!!
korean pros do play unorthodox many times. It's just that mostly standard is the best way since from there you can react to anything your opponent throws at you, and most likely get you ahead if you defend all-in or cheese.
Mind games and tricking your opponent during the game affects a lot.
Considering how badly flash demolished Zero during the finals of the MSL was it in a 3-0 sweep.. i was really hoping zero would have pulled a win to redeem himself.
And I always wondered, why not play non-standard every once in a while if the korean pros are mostly expecting standard play??
@DontSpamHerePlz004 there is no comment like this, because while playing against Flash there is no such thing as "game over at 0:00". He usually can keep his opponents under control ;)
people sure are dumb tryclops1, particularly you. ignoring that zero has already beaten flash in a standard game, what makes you think you can come out with a dumb statement like 'I'm sure Zero wouldn't be able to pull that off again against Flash anyway'? do you seriously think you have THAT much insight into these player's skill levels? flash even scouted the hydra den, what more do you want? don't act like flash was caught unaware
wow... zero realmente me impresiono en este game,..daniel , yo creo que jaedong vs flash,..flash esta encima en numero de victorias...como sea espero que flash se recupere pronto de su lesion..
I am so thrilled with Zero's tactics and determination, even with 3 straight losses to Flash in the MSL finals last month, he didn't back up this time, and still came up with this type of strategic play, impressive!!!
18:34 Why did he put the lurkers in the Overlord? It seemed so uneeded. He was doing good damage against the Refinery. If he destroyed that, it would have dome some good damage, and perhaps prevented him from later switching to a Mech build.
@harizotoh7 It's true.. Also on hindsight, could have just stationed lurkers behind the minerals in the main to preven even more mining. But... it's easy on hindsight... in the heat of the moment, decisions are harder.
@motoroia3 flash is overrated, thats why he has 70% win in every matchup of all races right ? cus losing a game makes a god like player like flash overrated lol get ur shit together son
@metal592 jajajajaja Flash sigue siendo su papa! Flash es el bichote de SC ahora mismo. Y Jaedong le sigue lo q pasa es q el ZvZ esta muy impredecible ultimamente. Si no fuera por eso estarian igual en estadisticas creo.
@metal592 Q bien jeje eres un pro en starcraft? jajaja si claro! Yo al menos acepto q soy una mierda para jugarlo y mucho menos como los koreanos pero ya llevo siguiendo la escena por casi 6 anos! Ah y tocas guitarra eso esta cool. Yo toco ahi mas o menos y canto algo, la musica es lo q me gusta. Si quieres pasa por mi canal y eso canto covers y originales con guitarra y eso. Estaba pensando grabar un comentario de SC en espanol... ya q llevo tanto tiempo viendo y siempre veo a nuke lol
Excelente estrategia la que desplegó Zero; no dejó descansar ni un solo momento a Flash; lo atacó por todos los flancos. El control de sus unidades y su amplio conocimiento estratégico, demuestran que Zero está en camino de convertirse en el mejor Zerg de la escena profesional koreana, justo al lado del gran Jaedong.
@danielalbertoaguilar Justo detras de Jaedong. Zero perdio la final terriblemente, Zero no tiene el aire de ser grande. Recuerda que le hizo Flash en la ultima final.
@danielalbertoaguilar Zero es bueno, para mi es mi segundo zerg favorito, pero para llegar a Jaedong se necesita mucho. Jaedong es el unico zerg q puede manejar a Flash en estos dias. Si, Zero le gano un juego a Flash ahora pero eso es todo. Flash le gano 3 corridos en la final del ultimo MSL. Pero si Zero es S-class, junto con Calm. Flash esta a otro nivel q solo Jaedong puede llegar por el momento como zerg. Jaedong esta un poco abajo pq ya no domina el ZvZ como antes...
@TheBarbahaba been away on holiday for a long time so aint seen any SC for a while (5 weeks or the like) and the last games i saw Flash beat Zero easily. Well, I guess I have to search for some new Jaedong-games then.
@Oggygroggy1 Zero is not even close to Jaedong yet... Jaedong has beaten Flash several times recently (4/21, 5/3, 6/15, 6/22). Beating Flash wouldn't be a good measure of how a good a player is anyways.
@gotohellpunk That's hardly a measure of who's the better Zerg. It just says that on that day, Zero's ZvZ was better than Jaedong's. But all it takes is a quick look at their achievements and current win %'s and it's pretty clear who the better Zerg player is. Most people wouldn't even consider Zero to be S-class. =/
@adlarsenic a few months ago beating Flash was an exelent measure of how good you were. He was simpley a moster back then, but now I saw he was "not even" world nr1. Guess the other players have learnd his gameplay (which is pritty predictable to be honest).
@adlarsenic Exactly. You can always take a game out of anyone by cheesing or coming up with an un-scouted strategy. I'm sure Zero wouldn't be able to pull that off again against Flash anyway... (When Zero beats Flash in a standard game...) People are dumb... Jaedong's the only zerg that can handle Flash. The only thing against him is his ZvZ which is not as dominant as it used to be. (Luck plays a higher factor in ZvZ's in my opinion). But anyway he's next to Flash on a level of their own...
every zerg has been sucking the cock of 3 hatch muta against Flash, and then Flash just goes 4-5rax off 2 base and instant wins. Finally a smart zerg decides to go 3 hatch lurker for a change
No, this is Flash. He's a terrifying player once he gets going, but his weakness is that he plays mostly the same, when he plays standard. Very few players can really take advantage of this, however.
Uhh Zero IS the best zerg in the world at the moment. Sure, JD has been dominating the zerg race, but right now, Zero is totally in the zone and cannot be stopped.
@TheBarbahaba who destroyed jaedong 3-1 in the last msl. right. ZERO..who is carrying his team into the PLAYOFFS. and not failing miserably in proleague thats right. ZERO...jaedong couldn't even take his team to the playoffs. fuking pathetic
lol Zero loses to Crazy-Hydra and wins against Flash, therefore he "carries" his team. A team with Light, Soulkey, and Really on it. If Zero is carrying his team that means Soulkey and his friends are shit and,well, their records beg to differ.
Lol, a Zero fanboy. Look at JD's team and tell me who else on OZ is worth looking at. And JD lost a zvz, the most unpredictable matchup in SC, big fucking deal. Did you forget who got raped by Flash in the MSL finals recently? Zero. Did you forget who beat Flash the last 4 times they met? Jaedong. Stfu if you don't know shit about SC.
This guy ZerO wiped his ass with Flash in that game, i mean that was a superb demostration of zerg power !
ZcOrPiOxD 3 weeks ago
To people saying this isn't standard. 3-hatch lurker is pretty fuckin standard, not even close to cheese. People can't accept that Flash got his ass handed to him
Ur0pinionDoesntCount 3 weeks ago
HEE-DRALISKU DEN
akmv3 1 month ago
starcraft 2 sucks so bad the ums is way to diffrent the hot keys are messed up I hate the fell of it broodwar is so much better there is resson why its 2011 and the koreans are still holding broodwar tournments
FreshAsHell 2 months ago
first game i seen where flash lost
jeewoo12 3 months ago
Now THAT'S the power of zerg. Fuck mutas. This should be a pimpest play 2011.
ilovegreenthings87 6 months ago
neo yellow style, neo storm zerg
crimson35124 6 months ago
drop vs T is uber strong. I wonder why it's so rarely used
xunap 7 months ago
@xunap Only strong early game, and look at the huge disadvantage Flash had. Drops actually are really not effective vs terran this game was just phenomenon!!!
Ur0pinionDoesntCount 3 weeks ago
korean pros do play unorthodox many times. It's just that mostly standard is the best way since from there you can react to anything your opponent throws at you, and most likely get you ahead if you defend all-in or cheese.
Mind games and tricking your opponent during the game affects a lot.
timotti 7 months ago
Considering how badly flash demolished Zero during the finals of the MSL was it in a 3-0 sweep.. i was really hoping zero would have pulled a win to redeem himself.
And I always wondered, why not play non-standard every once in a while if the korean pros are mostly expecting standard play??
ratatouillez 7 months ago
16:35 ITS A TRAP!
nsl41288 7 months ago
ZerO was definitely channeling Jaedong here. One of the best Zerg performances I've seen in a while.
dada78641 7 months ago
@dada78641 hahaha
coolm0di 4 months ago
where is the comment "game was over at 0:00"?
DontSpamHerePlz004 7 months ago
@DontSpamHerePlz004 there is no comment like this, because while playing against Flash there is no such thing as "game over at 0:00". He usually can keep his opponents under control ;)
ccalmus 6 months ago
uhhhhhh
wasdwasdedsf 6 months ago
perfect game
sinekonata 7 months ago
people sure are dumb tryclops1, particularly you. ignoring that zero has already beaten flash in a standard game, what makes you think you can come out with a dumb statement like 'I'm sure Zero wouldn't be able to pull that off again against Flash anyway'? do you seriously think you have THAT much insight into these player's skill levels? flash even scouted the hydra den, what more do you want? don't act like flash was caught unaware
vuashke 7 months ago
Why does this video sound like it was recorded in a fish market?
fallincheese08 7 months ago
what's the song at the end of da match?
wintobka 7 months ago
COMPLETELY DOMINATED..
caeksauce8 7 months ago
wow... zero realmente me impresiono en este game,..daniel , yo creo que jaedong vs flash,..flash esta encima en numero de victorias...como sea espero que flash se recupere pronto de su lesion..
sapitoraider 7 months ago
People need to understand that flash is way out of practice and still is nursing a injury. Zero played excellent though. GG
ASIANWHITEBOY1337 7 months ago
I am so thrilled with Zero's tactics and determination, even with 3 straight losses to Flash in the MSL finals last month, he didn't back up this time, and still came up with this type of strategic play, impressive!!!
xiangnan 7 months ago
If only the winner played like that during his last match with the loser.
dabom88 7 months ago
fuck you zero
voronge 7 months ago
Simply at Flash there was no water
MrManfromUA 7 months ago
Qué pasó aquí¿?, un irreconozible Flash.
JAzulf 7 months ago
18:34 Why did he put the lurkers in the Overlord? It seemed so uneeded. He was doing good damage against the Refinery. If he destroyed that, it would have dome some good damage, and perhaps prevented him from later switching to a Mech build.
harizotoh7 7 months ago
@harizotoh7 It's true.. Also on hindsight, could have just stationed lurkers behind the minerals in the main to preven even more mining. But... it's easy on hindsight... in the heat of the moment, decisions are harder.
Urza26 7 months ago
zero is becoming a fucking beast! flash took it up the ass!
iamElijah 7 months ago
mother of god, the meta game has changed...
lionelchu 7 months ago
... flash made mistakes...
WHAT?
ctw2001 7 months ago
wowwwwwwww nice strat and execution by the winners.
Mangirox13 7 months ago
thanks for the uploading
itsagooday 7 months ago
Icarus&Aztec = Graveyard of GOD
taeksinyumwon 7 months ago
I think the lack of scouting played a big part on his defeat.
just4thelolz 7 months ago
i don't feel like arguing...if u think flash is overrated your an idiot.
SeenaSeenaSeena 7 months ago
@SeenaSeenaSeena agreed
SvennemanZZZ 7 months ago
Thank you Nevake!
djsydney 7 months ago
WINNER deserves MVP for the day.
DevilDante26 7 months ago
flash overrated
motoroia3 7 months ago
@motoroia3 flash is overrated, thats why he has 70% win in every matchup of all races right ? cus losing a game makes a god like player like flash overrated lol get ur shit together son
SvennemanZZZ 7 months ago 2
ajajja zero le gano a flash porfin pero aun flash sigue siendo su papi ya q le hiso basura 3-0 en el ABC
metal592 7 months ago
@metal592 jajajajaja Flash sigue siendo su papa! Flash es el bichote de SC ahora mismo. Y Jaedong le sigue lo q pasa es q el ZvZ esta muy impredecible ultimamente. Si no fuera por eso estarian igual en estadisticas creo.
TRYCLOPS1 7 months ago
@TRYCLOPS1 y tu quien eres man
metal592 7 months ago
@metal592 Mano yo soy un fanatico de esta mierda desde hace ya como 5 años. Soy boricua y eso jeje! Y tu brother? Q es la q hay!
TRYCLOPS1 7 months ago
@TRYCLOPS1 orale! yo soy de peru un pro en craft y estoy al tanto de los torneos koreanos ,tambien toko guitarra ajaj
metal592 7 months ago
@metal592 Q bien jeje eres un pro en starcraft? jajaja si claro! Yo al menos acepto q soy una mierda para jugarlo y mucho menos como los koreanos pero ya llevo siguiendo la escena por casi 6 anos! Ah y tocas guitarra eso esta cool. Yo toco ahi mas o menos y canto algo, la musica es lo q me gusta. Si quieres pasa por mi canal y eso canto covers y originales con guitarra y eso. Estaba pensando grabar un comentario de SC en espanol... ya q llevo tanto tiempo viendo y siempre veo a nuke lol
TRYCLOPS1 7 months ago
Damn MenSoL[Zero]! Gosu!
makeone88 7 months ago
23:53: thumbs up you kick ass zero
vuashke 7 months ago
why are half the related videos centered around the number 9? Am i missing something?
BumAtLarg 7 months ago
Excelente estrategia la que desplegó Zero; no dejó descansar ni un solo momento a Flash; lo atacó por todos los flancos. El control de sus unidades y su amplio conocimiento estratégico, demuestran que Zero está en camino de convertirse en el mejor Zerg de la escena profesional koreana, justo al lado del gran Jaedong.
danielalbertoaguilar 7 months ago
@danielalbertoaguilar Justo detras de Jaedong. Zero perdio la final terriblemente, Zero no tiene el aire de ser grande. Recuerda que le hizo Flash en la ultima final.
zerazobz 7 months ago
@danielalbertoaguilar Zero es bueno, para mi es mi segundo zerg favorito, pero para llegar a Jaedong se necesita mucho. Jaedong es el unico zerg q puede manejar a Flash en estos dias. Si, Zero le gano un juego a Flash ahora pero eso es todo. Flash le gano 3 corridos en la final del ultimo MSL. Pero si Zero es S-class, junto con Calm. Flash esta a otro nivel q solo Jaedong puede llegar por el momento como zerg. Jaedong esta un poco abajo pq ya no domina el ZvZ como antes...
TRYCLOPS1 7 months ago
whhhaaaaaooo... Zero is great! Thought Flash was unbeatable. Zero > Jeadong?
Oggygroggy1 7 months ago
@Oggygroggy1 jaedong won his last 4 matches vs flash ...
its beating flash in a bo5 that counts
got it?
TheBarbahaba 7 months ago
@TheBarbahaba been away on holiday for a long time so aint seen any SC for a while (5 weeks or the like) and the last games i saw Flash beat Zero easily. Well, I guess I have to search for some new Jaedong-games then.
Oggygroggy1 7 months ago
@Oggygroggy1 Zero is not even close to Jaedong yet... Jaedong has beaten Flash several times recently (4/21, 5/3, 6/15, 6/22). Beating Flash wouldn't be a good measure of how a good a player is anyways.
adlarsenic 7 months ago
@adlarsenic zero destroyed jaedong in their msl semi finals...he is therefore clearly the better zerg.
gotohellpunk 7 months ago
@gotohellpunk that would be only zerg vs zerg also if u look at win rates jaedong is a better zerg
bzeng5114 7 months ago
@gotohellpunk That's hardly a measure of who's the better Zerg. It just says that on that day, Zero's ZvZ was better than Jaedong's. But all it takes is a quick look at their achievements and current win %'s and it's pretty clear who the better Zerg player is. Most people wouldn't even consider Zero to be S-class. =/
adlarsenic 7 months ago
no thats not what it says
wasdwasdedsf 6 months ago
@adlarsenic a few months ago beating Flash was an exelent measure of how good you were. He was simpley a moster back then, but now I saw he was "not even" world nr1. Guess the other players have learnd his gameplay (which is pritty predictable to be honest).
Oggygroggy1 7 months ago
@adlarsenic Exactly. You can always take a game out of anyone by cheesing or coming up with an un-scouted strategy. I'm sure Zero wouldn't be able to pull that off again against Flash anyway... (When Zero beats Flash in a standard game...) People are dumb... Jaedong's the only zerg that can handle Flash. The only thing against him is his ZvZ which is not as dominant as it used to be. (Luck plays a higher factor in ZvZ's in my opinion). But anyway he's next to Flash on a level of their own...
TRYCLOPS1 7 months ago
Zero is hands down the best zerg
if only hes zvz wasnt shithouse he would be in every finals
kujiisz 7 months ago
GR8 Game.....
wowicerasha 7 months ago
Damn. Good game.
WickedServant 7 months ago
Jaedong > Zero EZ
manyalforever 7 months ago
@manyalforever jaedong got manraped by zero in the msl semi finals, and he can't take his team to the playoffs. jaedong is done
gotohellpunk 7 months ago
@gotohellpunk
totally totally WRONG
xunap 7 months ago
This game was SICK
Tk1479 7 months ago
every zerg has been sucking the cock of 3 hatch muta against Flash, and then Flash just goes 4-5rax off 2 base and instant wins. Finally a smart zerg decides to go 3 hatch lurker for a change
Lubie225 7 months ago
@Lubie225 Exactly. Zerg has been having trouble with Terran players lately, especially Flash. Time to mix things up a bit and adapt.
harizotoh7 7 months ago
Revenge Kill!
EnsignN7 7 months ago
There seem to be MBC Game's version of Game and Ongamenet version.
customis24 7 months ago
Nicely done!
NaturalTvventy 7 months ago
Winning always attracts losers with opinoons.Flash got outplayed.Get over it fuckers.
NotoHaters0 7 months ago
That was brilliant!
JoCRuff 7 months ago
wrist broken :(
rckets 7 months ago
he couldn't do this during the msl?
zephyrsimon 7 months ago
Very satisfying slaughter.
iOnlySignIn 7 months ago
This has got to be Flash worst game ever to careless
AzNHappYKid 7 months ago
superb
Misyu44 7 months ago 2
man zeros getting really good, hes probably going to become one of the top players soon
pjunsukk 7 months ago
O.O
konadora 7 months ago
WINNER PLAYED LIKE A BAWSS
LucLeFou 7 months ago 33
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sdpgposd 7 months ago 7
well played by winner
drez13 7 months ago
sick drops
l33tcars 7 months ago
not flash
terran4610 7 months ago
@terran4610 *Spoiler*
No, this is Flash. He's a terrifying player once he gets going, but his weakness is that he plays mostly the same, when he plays standard. Very few players can really take advantage of this, however.
GrandDracolich 7 months ago
wow un-fuckin-believable micro/macro from the winner!
PROPS!
limbo9653 7 months ago 2
:-(
TomValedro 7 months ago
Thanks nevake u r the boss :D
RocketMess 7 months ago 3
great!!
overmazter 7 months ago
AWESOME! :3
Thanks Nevake! :D
darkglinoga 7 months ago
hands down the best zerg in the world
gotohellpunk 7 months ago
@gotohellpunk its zero that is playing not jaedong
so no not the best zerg in the world
TheBarbahaba 7 months ago
@TheBarbahaba
Uhh Zero IS the best zerg in the world at the moment. Sure, JD has been dominating the zerg race, but right now, Zero is totally in the zone and cannot be stopped.
ivar197 7 months ago
@TheBarbahaba who destroyed jaedong 3-1 in the last msl. right. ZERO..who is carrying his team into the PLAYOFFS. and not failing miserably in proleague thats right. ZERO...jaedong couldn't even take his team to the playoffs. fuking pathetic
gotohellpunk 7 months ago
@gotohellpunk
lol Zero loses to Crazy-Hydra and wins against Flash, therefore he "carries" his team. A team with Light, Soulkey, and Really on it. If Zero is carrying his team that means Soulkey and his friends are shit and,well, their records beg to differ.
chodori2041 7 months ago
@gotohellpunk dude chill out
take your pill and look at a callender
the 3-1 in the msl wasnt last msl
last msl it was 3-0 flash vs zero lol
and if jaedong had half of the team zero had he would have won the whole thing
u'r pathetic to even compare both of them
lets see who is in woonging shall we? free.. soulkey.... light....really .... dude just give oz 1 of those players
dont wanna even bring titles into this stupid argument
u'r just a zero fan and thats ok but lets not push it
TheBarbahaba 7 months ago
@TheBarbahaba woops got confused thought u talked about vs flash msl history
zvz is shit matches and jaedong is better than zero in that match even after losing 3-1 to him
TheBarbahaba 7 months ago
@gotohellpunk
Lol, a Zero fanboy. Look at JD's team and tell me who else on OZ is worth looking at. And JD lost a zvz, the most unpredictable matchup in SC, big fucking deal. Did you forget who got raped by Flash in the MSL finals recently? Zero. Did you forget who beat Flash the last 4 times they met? Jaedong. Stfu if you don't know shit about SC.
kpxkrazy 7 months ago
Thx Nevake
jeong1992 7 months ago
well played .. well played
whooshx2 7 months ago
9:16
Game starts :D
Gawuri 7 months ago 30
@Gawuri I was gonna say as I started, since when did Flash play toss?
ExponentToaster 6 months ago
@ExponentToaster ? Flash is playing Terran.... wat are you talking about...?
Gawuri 6 months ago
@Gawuri Started with a ZvP and I saw that and was like, what? Then I saw your post that it started at like 8:00.
ExponentToaster 6 months ago
@ExponentToaster Oh! That is just a replay of the previous game. Action (zerg) vs free (protoss).
Zero vs Flash starts at 9:16 :D
Gawuri 6 months ago 4
First!
projectelff 7 months ago