Foreign pilots learning to fly in Australia - Is it a safety risk?

[Fokkernadel]

I've learned British English at school and American English in the airforce. But Australian English seems to be funny: never heard "a bang" before ;) Is that correct English or something like Australian slang? I know "abeam", but "a bang" is the sound of an explosion for me ;)

ATC should use common phrases all around the world and should speak clear, loud and not to fast. Then it should be no problem from where you are or in which airspace you are flying.

Toefl and other courses are fine if you

[amdsasr3]

pfffft today tonight dont know shit..... people that know aviation especially out of morrabbin, know other pilots intentions.... fucken media gaylords....

[humsish]

I am an international student who are about to do my commercial pilot licence training.I can speak a bloody perfect english and I can communicate perfectly,so today tonight just SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!

[MrJmeik]

2:36 I can understand that.... he requested 1 city orbit...

[njstobie]

they show footage of the bloke when he's on the ground, but play audio of his landing clearance at the same time (which he would have received when he was on approach). Then, like they said, several minutes later, but only moments after he's landed, they play the reminder request to expedite vacation from the runway. its not the student misunderstanding, rather a controller just being thorough. just another example of today tonight taking things out of context

[appleglory]

@darrenbennett44 Cool story mate

[darrenbennett44]

i wasn't saying it was the race... but have heard some funny stories from other instructors.

[appleglory]

a bang? its abeam. media cant get anything right always looking for shit to stir up. I fly in New Zealand and when i first started as a student pilot my radio calls were horrible, just like everyone esle. some cases we do get pilots who are slightly harder to understand but everyone goes through a English proficiency test so i dont know what this fuss is all about.

[PriceEdwardIsland]

These are student pilots, doesn't matter if English is your native language, when you first start to communicate on the radio while flying a plane, you are gonna struggle here and there, and it is normal that sometimes pilots and ATC have communication problems. I agree, it is just typical Australian racist crap. Come on, these people fund you bloody general aviation.

[sgboy00]

excuse me ? Am I hearing wrongly ? Im from Singapore and I am extremely proud to say that I speak perfect english.

[darrenbennett44]

hmmm i had some china southern tosser flying the circuit backwards, unfortunatly i was in that circuit at that time. let me tell you, seeing a landing light in your face isnt the best of feelings.... two words, knife edge.

[appleglory]

@darrenbennett44 its not race idiot its the pilot. 

[darrenbennett44]

@appleglory Occupation:

Student Pilot... need i say more.

[appleglory]

@darrenbennett44 Well buddy I happen to have a PPL with a MEIR, with a CPL in a month. So yes, technically student pilot, but still a qualified pilot. what are you? a racist prick?

[darrenbennett44]

@appleglory no not racist, just trying to explain the trend of constant near misses.

and since you asked, im all that shit you bragged about and also an instructor.

[darrenbennett44]

@appleglory "Well buddy I happen to have a PPL with a MEIR, with a CPL in a month."

Wow, a PPL with a MECIR, now who's the most dangerous person in the sky?

[NadimAJ]

Typical aussie racist diatribe. Wake up, smell the coffee, the world is full of colour, and accents, and cultural differences. Muppets

[lavakava]

why do aussies think their english is the perfect english? lol...many americans have hard time understanding australian accent.

btw, it is responsibility of the flight instructor to monitor communications between their student and other aircraft/tower.

[markmimp]

Personaly I dont think language is the big issue - its flight discpline and compliance with sop's that really matter. The guys who are willing to put themsevles through proper training do well. It must be really hard to deal for the overseas guys.

[markmimp]

Ive heard US pilots coming into the country struggling a bit with Aussie accents

[bounceferret]

bloody hard..... parents pay for them to fly over, pay for all their flight training, put them in a house, give spending money, not even work a part time job......

shit if only i was so lucky, nope I have to do the stupid thing and work for it

[aussiemj90]

well what do they expect, the head of casa is an ex cathay pilot, of course he will defend the airlines!!! get these people into class rooms and get them to understand the language it is hard enough to fly in such tight airspace not alone make sure that not only you but your passengers are safe with people who can not understand the basic requirements set by atc. something has to be done about it!!!

[bruzcuz1]

far out - this is today tonight - a xenophobic Australian show. absolutely no credibility!

this show is just designed for everyone to get afraid.

being an Australian i am extremely embarrassed!

[yoursumashankar]

I have IELTS overall score of 7. The Australian Air Traffic Controllers (ATC) must be given training on how to communicate properly and clearly. They seems to be speaking too fast in Oz English as if they are talking to a friend or neighbour. The flying schools must only accept all students (Local and Foreign), who score more than 6.5 in IELTS. Also the schools must train the students in 'Flying Language' skills before the flying lessons. Just blaming overseas students in an easy excuse.

[lavakava]

@yoursumashankar

You are right on!

[EAPENJJ]

Maybe incoming students need higher TOEFL or IELTS tests BEFORE going to Australia. In short student pilots should already know and be able to communicate in English before arriving.

[live604]

true. current minimum score requirement for flying schools in australia are;

TOEFL : 71

IELTS : 6.0

maybe a slight higher minimum score should solve the problem.