This is still the dumbest and most desperate of all truther claims. Claiming Silverstein went on national TV and admitted to insurance fraud show exactly how little they have in the way of evidence.
JUST FYI, THE USER KNOWN AS cantonear1968 IS A KNOWN SHILL. HE'S ON THESE 9/11 PAGES SPREADING DISINFORMATION ABOUT THE EVENTS OF 9/11/01. LIKE OTHER SHILLS HE CLAIMS TO BE AN "EXPERT", IN THIS CASE A FORMER "NAVIGATOR" FOR THE AIR FORCE. HE IS 100% FULL OF CRAP & CAN'T BE TAKEN AT HIS WORD. HE IS NOTHING MORE THAN A DISINFORMATION PUSHER. HE WILL ATTEMPT TO DISCREDIT ANY RESEARCH & RESEARCHERS NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE OFFICIAL STORY & WILL ATTEMPT TO DISCREDIT THE TRUTH MOVEMENT AS A WHOLE
@wimahlers Now look at the structures pulled by cables, and WTC7 - Dilapidated buildings vs. nearly whole structures. lol How does "it" describe people? How can "pull it" refer to BOTH pulling firefighters AND pulling a building by cables? Documents show that fire/rescue had been "pulled" hours before. Steel framed buildings do not fall due to fire alone, and indirect damage. Here's a definition of "pull" that you need a penis to understand. Sorry for you. index?qid=20071222121843AA85avl
FALSE; although it's true the FF were evacuated from bld 7 itself hours earlier, they were still ON THE GROUNDS, searching for fallen comrades & preparing to re-enter the building when the final withdrawal order came down later that afternoon.
"Steel framed buildings do not fall due to fire alone"
Actually it DOES happen, and more often than you think.
@TimReed22222 You're groping now. All rescue was already pulled hours earlier. You're mincing words. And steel structure buildings fall all the time you say? Cite examples. Examples, examples. Empty words. How much are they paying you to be a bad liar?
@IamNemoN01 "You're groping now. All rescue was already pulled hours earlier."
Google "Nick Visconti firehouse" & read the interview w/Deputy Chief Visconti; not only was he there, it was HIS job to organize the withdrawal when Chief Nigro's pull order came down - at around 2pm.
Now why would the chief order an evacuation if there was no one to evacuate?
@TimReed22222 Yes, you're right. "It" can be a team. Like The football team. We commonly say "It was doing good this season." ...Oh wait, NO, we actually say THEY were doing good this season. The rules of arguing something like grammar is - know the rules if you're going to try to break the rules. Oh wait a minute, that's for music. You just don't break grammar rules. So why in the heck are you still TRYING? lololololol
its funny..people think truthers are the ones making stuff up..if a person looks at that building and tells me it wasnt a cd? they must not have any sense of reality. im not implicating the fdny in the inside job..im just saying it is so obvious it is scary..and yes TIMREED..obviously you do not know any sort of math..you tell me if man made structures were built to fall like that under a little bit of heat caused my a few debris fires.. go get a grip on realiy
Regardless of Larry's statements....you cant ingnonre the laws of physics. A Building that was damaged a-symetrically, collapsed symetrically into its own footprint at free fall speed through the path of greatest resistance.
Even IF the fires did cause the collapse, there would have to be a total failure of every major support at the exact same time, otherwise the building would have fallen to one side.
@SIX50R "Regardless of Larry's statements....you cant ingnonre the laws of physics."
Oh YAWN - every truther who watches a couple of YT videos suddenly thinks he's a junior physicist!
There IS NO LAW of physics that says a building with asymmetrical damage must flop over on its side - and I DEFY you to find a real physicist that says so!
@TimReed22222 this building didn't have asymmetrical damage and it fell the exact same. a couple small fires on a few floors cannot make a building like this collapse the way it did. it's absolutely pathetic that people are so fucking ignorant as to believe the story the government spewed out. it also goes to show you how the 9/11 commission report didn't say a goddamn thing about building 7. wake the fuck up.
@TimReed22222 Actually the "flaming skyscraper" fell into its own footprint. but either way, if you want to believe the "official story" go right ahead.
@TimReed22222 lol you just don't give up do you? can you tell me why exactly the collapse of building 7 was not mentioned anywhere in the 9/11 commission report? and why did BBC report the building fell at 5PM on live television, when it didn't fall for another 20 minutes?
@TimReed22222 LMFAO.... A likely story. Anticipated collapse? Where in the world did you hear that from? Other than the videos of firefighters and policeman saying "Everyone move back, the building is going to come down."
@2Emos1Razor Are you for real? You incredulously ask who mentioned the anticipated collapse of WTC 7 and then go on to state exactly WHO anticipated the collapse of WTC 7!
Can you honestly not see the disconnect in your logic?
@TimReed22222 Oh YAWN, id rather insult people than debate the facts.....its common sense. If one side was greatly damaged before the other, it stands to reason that the greatly damaged side would fail before the other. When one side fails beore the other, the structure would collapse to that side, not straight down.....UNLESS there was complete equal simultainious failure of every support, it could not have come straight down.....jabber all you want to, it couldnt happen any other way.
Interesting.....Larry Silverstein suggests to the fire dept "maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it". The "IT" he is reffering to when you listen to what Larry is saying, is the building itself. Its easy to say after the fact.....well i meant take the fire dept out of harms way, but listen to Larry's own words. He didnt intimate the FD's direct safety, nor did he say that the FD said we should pull it before hand. Listen to him say that HE SUGGESTED the building be pulled....he used it first.
@SIX50R "The "IT" he is reffering to when you listen to what Larry is saying, is the building itself."
How can that be when HE *NEVER* MENTIONS THE BUILDING? Listen to it again: He mentions the fires & he mentions the firefighting operation, but he NEVER refers to the building! So how can it be "it"?
If in doubt, ask the firefighters: Pulling OUT is what they were talking about, and pulling OUT is what the firefighters did.
@TimReed22222 The FD calls and says, were not sure we can contain the fire....Larry then says ok maybe we should PULL it....he didnt say, pull out, he said pull it. Used in context, saying "pull it" is a veiled statement (as in "pull it down") and a way of saying something without directly saying it.
Sort of like "shut up" is a veiled threat....what your really saying is "shut up, or else"
In any event your assuming Larry spoke fluient Fire Fighter....lol and knew exactly what it meant
@TimReed22222 before hand, because....Larry says that HE suggested it, not the other way around. That assumes Larry knew exactly what that meant and the context of how that word is used in the Fire Fighting world.....sorry you give him to much credit
@SIX50R No, the FD calls & says "We're not sure we can contain the fire" ... and Larry says We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the best thing to do is PULL THE OPERATION & GET YOUR MEN OUT OF HARM'S WAY. "It" = "the operation."
Doesn't that make a lot more sense - especially in light of the fact that THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE FIREFIGTHERS DID?
Oh, and BTW - you DO realize you're implicating the FDNY - don't you? Is that what you think? That the FDNY was in on it??
What ever lol. All of them were controller demolitions without a doubt why don't they ask demolition experts on film in this video how a building falls when when a 47 story building falls on its from catching on fire?
Who appointed Larry Silverstein fire chief of New York City? No fire department in the world would make the decision to deploy or not deploy a contingent of firefighters based upon input from a building owner. They would make such a decision on the spot and unilaterally without first soliciting the opinion of the owner. Larry Silverstein does not call the shots at NYFD. The deployment of firefighters was not his call to make, thus his backpedaling explanation has no basis in reality.
what part of "they said" is too complicated for you to understand?
or do you suffer from the well-known truthtard disease of selective hearing?
other symptoms include hearing people state they heard what "sounded like" bombs and processing it as "there were bombs." do you suffer from that symptom too?
the better question is why do you WANT 9/11 to be an inside job?
@unclesamsnephew666 that is exactly it man.. 9/11 truthers want it to be true so they can continue living this exciting fantasy where they are pioneers of truth against an evil empire.. its fucking stupid
@xjustin523x u r an idiot... the fact that all these people made so much money off of 9/11 is already so suspicious..... the fact that there is way too much suspicious behaviour surrounding the official investigation makes you an even bigger moron......
@codehendrix you guys dont have one lick of evidence to support anything all you have is misinformation... people who feed you half truths and get you all riled up over the invisible enemy.. are you telling me after seeing this video you still think silverstein meant pull it as in demolish the building? it takes 2 seconds of research.. elsewhere other then youtube to know this is all bullshit.. you people are unbelievable
@unclesamsnephew666 9/11 was inside job because too many people made money off of it....... also there is way to much suspicious behaviour surrounding the official investigation...... disaster capitalism idiot....! i guess what would i expect from "uncle sam's nephew" fuckin stupid ass name....
@sss1ck Higher volumes of put options were placed on airline companies at other points earlier in the year. Airlines weren't doing well around that time and AA had recently reported that they would be expecting losses. It's really not as damning as CT make it sound...
"I remember getting a call from the uh fire department commander telling me that they were not sure they would be able to contain the fire AND I said you know we had such terrible loss of life maybe the smartest thing to do is is pull it AND they made that decision to pull AND then we watched the building collapse".
He's using the term "pull it" in the context of the building falling down.
The fire department made the decision to "pull" in the context of abandoning attempts to contain the fire.
theres nothing to argue about. watch the video you all need to grow up. you want to disagree juss to disagree. you can look up larry silversteins complete explination on the term pull/ pull it when he used it. Anyone who believes that our goverment caused the horrific terroist attacks are demonic little fucks!!!!!!!!!!!!
'Performed eighteen “Cut and Pulls” activities of the upper deck, including a test pull for Department of Buildings’ approval.'
"explosives were used to pull down the Y-shaped tower building."
"City to end dice-and-pull building demolition"
I do not believe many of the conspiracy theories however there are some very important questions that are not being asked. You Sir are as bad as the people that suggest holograms 'flew' into the twin towers
What an insulting shill crock - you have to be a junior megaphony looking for a bonus. At the very least even you should see a possible link in this sentence "AND THEY MADE THE DECISION TO PULL, AND THEN WE WATCHED THE BUILDING COLLAPSE" one statement following another, almost like they are related. Also fire chiefs don't pull out of burning buildings, they put them out, thats their job - so "Pulling out of the building" is another pathetic decoy, Surely yanks don't buy this BS.
The only thing that I'm trying to say is this Larry Silverstein said PULL IT then he said PULL thats all i'm getting at, what he meant by it doesn't matter, its just the fact that he did in fact say "PULL IT" and if you deny that your blind and deaf.
@halfcab123 "The only thing that I'm trying to say is this Larry Silverstein said PULL IT then he said PULL thats all i'm getting at"
Well that's obvious enough, and no one is denying it.
"what he meant by it doesn't matter"
Doesn't it??? You truthers are ready to hang the man based on what you think it means - I think whether you're right or wrong about that matters quite a bit!
@TimReed22222 well he may have been referring to another building, several buildings were pulled down with cables that day, i think it was confusion or something, but its also possible they rigged it to blow because it was unsafe... i don't know man i just think its a little fishy, but i'm not a conspiracy theorist.
@TimReed22222 except for the thermite, man you guys should do more reading. So when the only 3 steel framed buildings fall in the same day due to fires into their own footprint, you stick your head in the sand ? Building 7 could have burned for days and days and never fell.
WHAT thermite? The thermite claim comes from a single team, and was NEVER VERIFIED by actual thermite experts. The folks claiming this has been unwilling or unable to get their paper peer reviewed, or their results reproduced.
And if the thermite experts are not convinced, I'm not convinced. NO PROOF OF THERMITE.
"Building 7 could have burned for days and days and never fell."
Says WHO? Find me one qualified building engineer who would agree with that statement! You can't! Real engineers would NEVER endorse silly statements like a building can burn indefinitely without falling; they know that burning buildings have time limits. NO building is fireproof.
Have you never seen the vid's of NYPD telling crowds to get back their gonna bring down the bldg. Then you hear the explosions. Free fall speed in on it's own footprint. Nice try troll.
He did say "PULL IT" Wtf ? How does "PULL IT" refer to firefighters leaving a building, this video doesn't even make sense man!? None of the points in this video do anyhting. You should have put ads on his video to atleast make some moneys off the 32,000 hits so far... otherwise just another hunk of youtube junk...
@halfcab123 "How does "PULL IT" refer to firefighters leaving a building"
For the answer, let's hear from FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro:
"The biggest decision we had to make on the first day was to clear the area and create a collapse zone around the severely damaged 7 World Trade Center, a 47-story building heavily involved in fire ... I issued the orders to PULL back the firefighters"
@TimReed22222 Wow and he responds lol. Dude look, he's not talking about firefighters when he says "IT" how can you be so blind to that ? He is saying IT referring to the building which is being pulled, what he meant by that is not known, conspiracy, no conspiracy, your wrong, IT =! Firefighters. And the fact that the video said he doesn't say PULL IT, even furthers the erroneousness of this crap. Its just ignorance.
This is a ridiculous rebuttal. "Pull It" is singular and odd usage to apply to an entire fire department. Second, the video clearly shows a building falling by controlled demolition - a demolition that would have to be planned well in advance of the day it falls. Who made this video? Larry Silverstein?
@Joskel362 "Too bad The building was evacuated hours before they decided to "PULL IT".."
There may have been no on INSIDE 7 after it was evacuated, but there were *hundreds* of firefighters ALL AROUND 7, performing search & rescue ops & preparing to re-enter the building when the "pull" order came down.
You've gotta love these sheeple 'debunkers' lol perhaps i don't understand the definition of debunking (debunk away lol) but what most people want to know is why the building came down. I don't see any 'debunking' with regards to the obvious explanation of collapse, never before seen with a steel structured building. Allow me to define debunking: Reaction of scared defensive entities to discovery of truth :)
@arsenalrule2001uk "but what most people want to know is why the building came down."
Why do you talk as if bld 7 was never investigated? It was, and not just by the government; A little googling will reveal several peer-reviewed papers by real building engineers - and they ALL point to fire as the cause, not demolition.
@TimReed22222 An 'investigation' that directly contradicts scientific possibility proves nothing. Google steel structured building collapsing in on itself due to small fire and see what happens. Gandhi once said "even in a minority of one, the truth is still the truth." If every corporation and conglomerate on this planet told you that Red was Blue, would you agree?!
@TimReed22222 Same old 'debunker' tactics at work here. 'I cant validate my incinuations so i'll sidestep the prominent issue, behave like a juvenile, baselessly mock and attack the messenger rather than the message. Address my point, quote one single steel structured building collapsing in on itself due to fire. Watch this space :)
The correct answer is: My tactic is to point out that you have offered neither fact nor expertise to back you theory that is CONTRADICTED by ACTUAL EXPERTS on the subject. You have given no reason why you are right, and every respected professional study on the subject is wrong.
@TimReed22222 I'm still waiting for you to quote a single steel structured building in gistory to which this has occured. Tell you what, let's say i grant you an interim benefit of doubt on this particular matter, in view of impartiality. 'Debunking' 911 conspiracies one at a time; i want to see you state that Bin Laden was responsible as orchestrator. Do me a favour, have a little glimpse into your oh so righteous NIST and the people in charge at the time of 911.
@arsenalrule2001uk "I'm still waiting for you to quote a single steel structured building in gistory to which this has occured."
Silly exercise; "this" has never occurred before, so what is there to compare it to? You want to play that game? Fine. YOU tell me of the last time a building of 7's EXACT design burned unchecked for 7 hours AND SURVIVED.
"i want to see you state that Bin Laden was responsible as orchestrator."
@TimReed22222 I'm still waiting for you to quote a single steel structured building in gistory to which this has occured. Tell you what, let's say i grant you an interim benefit of doubt on this particular matter, in view of impartiality. 'Debunking' 911 conspiracies one at a time; i want to see you state that Bin Laden was responsible as orchestrator. Do me a favour, have a little glimpse into your oh so righteous NIST and the people in charge at the time of 911.
@TimReed22222 If you're so convinced of the official narrative, why even research it at all, unlike most sheeple. You can't be a 'debunker' until you've researched the predominant 'conspiracy theories' and if you've done that you obviously don't accept the official narrative. OR you have an alterior motive. I don't purport to be correct, just to investigate anomalies whereas you do. You're as transparent as a window my friend. Exercise in futility Mr Disinfo :)
@TimReed22222 Lest we forget what happens when anyone discredits or disagrees with the official narrative, personal and/or professional destruction and ridicule.
Gone are the days of common sense and critical thinking, in are the days of, believe what your government tells you!
The music goes perfect with this lame video, a real comical joke. Most people don't believe the official story, and this Silverstein idiot does not make any sense. I'm a New Yorker and have seen plenty of huge building fires a lot worst than this, and not once did the fire dept pulled out and let it burn. They put it out and went on their merry way. Only a dummy would believe that ridiculous explanation....LOL!
@TimReed22222 I can't believe that people are so dumb to believe that a 47-story building fell like a deck of cards due to 3 burning floors. These are the same people who believe in toothfairy and Santa Claus. I've seen a skyscaper in Spain that burned for hours, engulfing the whole building and it did NOT fall. I never heard of firefighters letting such a tall building burn with only 3 floors buring. Do your research and stop living in your fantasy world.
@mrql123 "I can't believe that people are so dumb to believe that a 47-story building fell like a deck of cards due to 3 burning floors."
#1 NO ONE believes that - because the fires were MUCH WORSE than 3 floors! Truthers always find it necessary to minimize the scope of the fires but the men WHO WERE THERE describe SEVERE fires on MANY floors.
#2 By "dumb" do you mean the firefighters WHO WERE THERE, and structural engineering experts such as those at the ASCE & Structure Mag?
@TimReed22222 So the fires were much worse than 3 floors? Hahahahaha! That's the dummest thing you said so far. Building do NOT fall down like a deck of cards due to fire - it's impossible. If the fires were THAT bad, the building would have never fallen at free-fall style..NEVER! You've been watching too many cartoons and got it confused with reality. There have been skyscrapers with much more intense fire, engulfing the bldg and never came down.
@TimReed22222 Hahahahaha......what a joke! That's a bunch of bull! All I saw was 3 floors on fire, NOT nearly ALL floors. Even if the whole building was engulfed in flames it would not fall down, especally free-fall style. Buildings do not fall like a deck of cards - they fall sideways and disorganized. More and more people are waking up and asking questions. Can you explain why BBC reported bldg 7 collapsed 20 min before it did?
@mrql123 "That's a bunch of bull! All I saw was 3 floors on fire"
What YOU saw? Who cares what YOU saw?? YOU WEREN'T THERE! All YOU saw was a few cherry-picked photos & video clips! I'll stick with the sworn testimony of DOZENS of trustworthy veteran firefighters WHO WERE THERE, thank you - testimony that described the fires as severe and numerous.
@TimReed22222 I don't believe it one bit, and even if all those floor were on fire, the building would not fall down to the ground, especially in such a free-fall manner. You're liviing in a fairytale, or you've been watching too much cartoons. Your explanations sound too ridiculous, so you might as well drop this conversation. The more you post, the funnier it gets.
@mrql123 "even if all those floor were on fire, the building would not fall down to the ground"
Oh, really? So now you're an expert in building engineering, are you? No? Then what are your qualifications for making such broad statements that REAL engineers do not make? What makes you right, and actual structural engineers wrong?
Nothing's funnier to me than a truther playing engineer!
@TimReed22222 Am I an expert? Of course not, but don’t take it from me – I’m getting this info from the REAL experts who are engineers and architects from the video “Architects and Engineers - Expose Building 7 Controlled Demolition”. It’s common sense anyway. Please stop making a fool out yourself. There are thousands of engineers who disagree with the official story, more like a Cinderella story, and people are dumb enough to believe it.
Ah, yes. The rallying cry of the inexpert truther! In fact, the world's building experts do NOT believe in the 9/11 inside job - but hey! It's common sense!
"There are thousands of engineers who disagree with the official story"
More exaggeration! You cannot even claim that "thousands" have even signed their little petition, let alone participate in A&Etruth in any meaningful way; THAT number is just a small handful.
@TimReed22222 Look up “Madrid Windsor Highrise Fire 2005” on YT and see a high-rise on fire. The building went down into chunks, NOT free-fall style, and this was a much more intense fire than bldg 7. Even a monkey knows that a 47-story bldg doesn’t collapse free-fall style due to structural fire. You're either working for the governement or dumb as a door knob.
@mrql123 "Look up Madrid Windsor Highrise ..." MORE silliness. COMPLETELY different design, construction, and circumstances. Comparing one building that collapsed with a different one that didn't is a WORTHLESS EXERCISE - one which, I promise you, NO engineer worth his or her salt would ever endorse. There are so many differences!
For example, did you know that unlike 7, the Windsor Tower had a CONCRETE CORE? And its designers credit THAT with saving it from collapse? Interesting, huh?
@TimReed22222 This video, “2010 Shanghai high-rise fire” is another example of a tall building on fire and looking nothing like building 7 fall on its own footprint.
This is another good example video - “Aftermath of Oriental Tower fire “. Building 7 should look like that, not collapsing like a deck of cards. Stop watching those Saturday morning cartoons and do your investigation, like a grown up.
And one thing that happened at that fire is lots of people reported hearing "loud explosions". Does that mean the NWO/CIA imploded it? But wait: it didn't fall!
What does that mean?! Explosions HAVE to mean explosives, do the building must have collapsed!
But it didn't!
I'm going to have to call the overlords on this one!
@TimReed22222 What do you mean, And...? You don't want to talk about the guy hearing explosions IN bldg 7? The man knew what an explosion was and made it known to the public through this interview. Not too long after that interview he mysteriously died. Lots of people are wondering why, but of course, they'll never get a true answer for that.
@mrql123 LOTS of people reported "explosions"; it's a word commonly used to describe a really loud noise, and there were plenty of THOSE. But bombs are not the only possible cause. Falling debris - and bodies - were also described as "explosions." Use of the word might make you suspicious & that's fine, but it's far short of proof.
What *I* want to see is PHYSICAL EVIDENCE of a bomb. Show me this - with a little EXPERT verification, please - and I'll sit up & take notice.
@TimReed22222 What about Barry Jennings? Go to "World Exclusive: WTC7 Survivor Barry Jennings Account" on YT and skip to 2:52. He was inside the building and tells what happened. He was the Emergency Coordinator of bldg 7.
@TimReed22222 Go anywhere online or YT and you'll find that most do not fall for the official story. By the way, have you watch the video about Barry Jennings? Do you think the guy was lying? He was the Emergency Coordnator at bldg 7, and he and Mr. Hess were trapped in the bldg before it came down like a deck of cards. Also, why did BBC reported bldg 7 collapsed to the ground 20 before the actually fall? Explain that one.
@mrql123 "Go anywhere online or YT and you'll find that most do not fall for the official story."
LOL! So your statistical sample is truthers gathering around truther videos?? Too funny ...
"By the way, have you watch the video about Barry Jennings?"
I started to - then, when your point was not immediately apparent after about 60 seconds I remembered I don't let truthers waste my time. If you'd care to tell us EXACTLY what Jennings said you find significant?
@TimReed22222 You're kidding, right? You didn't watch the whole video on Barry Jennings? What are you afraid of? I told you to skip on to 2:52 where he is actually speaking. Why don't you go back and listen to it again, except skip to 2:52....I dare you. Let me know what you think about it.
great video! conspiracy theorist should have there skin dyed in a rainbow pattern, so we can clearly identify them walking among us during our daily lives. wait, maybe poca dots would be more amusing? Haha
Apparently you never researched the term "Pull it" thoroughly. It has been used for many years in that industry. You must keep looking at more than just your first search result.
"We have never, ever heard the term “pull it” being used to refer to the explosive demolition of a building, and neither has any blast team we’ve spoken with. The term is used in conventional demolition circles to describe the specific activity of attaching long cables to a pre-weakened building and maneuvering heavy equipment (excavators, bulldozers, etc.) to “pull” the frame of the structure over onto its side for further dismantlement."
"Debunk the military grade thermite found in the debris by MIT professors!"
First off they never found military grade thermite. They found paint chips that had similar elements with thermite.
Second only two of the researchers were professors and none of them were from MIT. Nice try LIAR.
Third none of the researchers were experts and they used a fake journal to publish their paper. They still havent got their work peer reviewed and its been 2 years.
but what about when Silverstein purchased a 99-year lease on the entire WTC complex weeks before 9/11 and insured it for $3.55 billion. I dont see you talking about that.
that contradicts an interview i saw via Loose Change wheret he owner of a demolition company was interviewed and was not aware that the WTC7 had come down and he even said because he is an expert in his field that it was a controlled demolition. There's a reason why there wasn't alot of news stories about WTC7 coming down because it housed files from numerous wall street fraud scandals such as world com and enron. It was also where 9/11 was planned. Too much evidence to be left around!
@LiveFromVCR You're a speaking about Danny Jowenko, a dutch demolition expert (who unfortunately was killed this past Summer in a car accident). Yes, he believed, after seeing a video, that WTC 7 was demo'd. He then went on to explain what would be necessary to do this, only to find out the building was on fire at the time and he stated "I can't explain it".
He also claimed in the same interview that WTCs 1 & 2 were definitely NOT CD. Do you accept that assessment from him?
@cantonear1968 yes i believe that was the gentlemen i was speaking about. Very sad to hear that he was killed this past summer! I cannot comment on his assement that WTC north and south tower were not CD because i have not seen that interview from him,if you have a link can you please provide one? In my opinion having witnessed many Las Vegas hotels and old stadiums get imploded from controlled demolitions i see many similarities with WTC7 and those hotels.
@LiveFromVCR This should take you to the Jowenko interview on WTCs 1 & 2:
watch?v=k3wwdI0XawI&feature=channel_video_title
If nit, it is favourited on my channel.
Ok. WTC 7 "looked like" a CD (in the sense it collapsed). Now, how should that have differed from a natural collapse, given the conditions of the building?
@Stu3100 Yeah,the conspiracy theorists are totally stupid for believing that a government that lied to attack a country (iraq) could lie about 9-11.They are stupid to believe that the fbi that orchestrated the 1993 wtc attacks (proven fact) could have done the same on 9-11.They are stupid to believe that governments and secret services that did criminal acts like "operation northwood" and "operation gladio" could plan 9-11.
'fbi that orchestrated the 1993 wtc attacks'? thats a new one, just made that up have you?
So if the US government carried out 9/11, it would've taken quite alot of people to cover this up and make it look like Islamic terrorists, don't ya reckon? yet 10 years on, NO-ONE has opened there mouths about it, and that would include, possibly, old people on there death beds? now get a fuckin life and stop sticking up for them scummy paki bastards Al Qaeda/Taliban.
@Stu3100 Google "emad salem 1993 wtc fbi"?there are interesting audio tapes u can listen to.They know that people are planning an attack (search for "able danger") and they let them do it.9-11 resulted in the invasions of afghanistan and iraq,weapons sales,oil control,opium control,more money to the f.b.i and c.i.a,new anti terrorists laws etc,do u not get it?i'm sure if u study operation gladio u would change your mind.
when mr larry said "pull it", some claims that he was only talking about the firemens etc that needed to pull away from the building, because it is going to collapse. Well, do we speak "it" or "them" if we're talking about people...
This discussion is over, not because you won (which I doubt you will), but because my fingers hurt after typing all this. We've had a nice talk, thank you.
@bennythebearful Yeah, I know. I wasted my life figuring out 9/11. Unlike you, you need to take care of your life instead of researching 9/11 all the time.
The rocket designed to bring the landing module down to the Moon's surface should create a blast hole just before it hits that surface with dust flying everywhere, Yet this one did not. In fact none of the trips did. Plus all the shadows were wrong for reflection off the Sun.
The United states people bought it all, Every word.
the events on 9/11 just proves how ignorant people are to advance technology & techniques used for mass deception.
You know why. You are a child so your opinion doesn't really matter anyways. You will learn more as you grow. So far it sounds like your on the wrong track. I can only imagine your mind in about 5 years. pathetic.
@Snowman374th The fuck? Since when did I suddenly become a child? Anyway, you say that the rocket should blast away things, but there's no air, no atmosphere. Show me evidence of incorrect shadows.
A combination of plane crashes and intense fires triggered the collapse of both World Trade Centers. The WTC7 collapse was just a side-effect of the two towers collapsing.
@NickWaterfall 15 doesn't make you a man. sorry sonny. You've got a lot to learn about this shit.
Did you see them walking. What was that called they were kicking up? then tell me why this wouldn't be affected by thrusters designed to slowly place it on the surface.?
Towers were designed to catch multiple impacts of the same size & same day & they did. 1 larger newer would not make a difference in size compared to multiple planes hitting at once. B-7, yeah right.
@Snowman374th Age doesn't matter. Experience does. And yes, I've experienced quite a bit.
The towers were designed to catch a slow-going 707. They never knew someone would intentionally fly a plane at about 550 miles per hour straight into the World Trade Center. So both towers were heavily damaged from the inside out. And fires weakened the remaining support.
Hahah so your telling me the designers just built them to withstand for the slowest flight & low fuel level huh. & 550, impossible you need to talk to some pilots who fly them, They'll tell you that speed would rip the plane apart. Also check out how NASA was crashing them on purpose to see how they react to poles obstacles Etc.
@Snowman374th NASA flew a small F-something plane into a strong wall. WTC is a friggin' hollow cheaply-built tower from the 60's never intended to withstand the power of a large fast-going airplane carrying 10,000 gallons of jetfuel. No conspiracy; end of line.
This is still the dumbest and most desperate of all truther claims. Claiming Silverstein went on national TV and admitted to insurance fraud show exactly how little they have in the way of evidence.
"Little"? Non-existent!
cantonear1968 1 day ago
yip i don't see cables to "pull it" surely everyone can see it's falling down on it's footprince at free fall speed.
lukatore 2 days ago
It does not matter how much you troll, or how much you are paid. People are watching the videos and GROWING in number. Resistance is futile.
IamNemoN01 2 days ago
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JUST FYI, THE USER KNOWN AS cantonear1968 IS A KNOWN SHILL. HE'S ON THESE 9/11 PAGES SPREADING DISINFORMATION ABOUT THE EVENTS OF 9/11/01. LIKE OTHER SHILLS HE CLAIMS TO BE AN "EXPERT", IN THIS CASE A FORMER "NAVIGATOR" FOR THE AIR FORCE. HE IS 100% FULL OF CRAP & CAN'T BE TAKEN AT HIS WORD. HE IS NOTHING MORE THAN A DISINFORMATION PUSHER. HE WILL ATTEMPT TO DISCREDIT ANY RESEARCH & RESEARCHERS NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE OFFICIAL STORY & WILL ATTEMPT TO DISCREDIT THE TRUTH MOVEMENT AS A WHOLE
mrh785 3 days ago
I noticed you don't allow for top commenters to stay on top. Afraid a comment like mine won't be buried?
IamNemoN01 3 days ago
@wimahlers Now look at the structures pulled by cables, and WTC7 - Dilapidated buildings vs. nearly whole structures. lol How does "it" describe people? How can "pull it" refer to BOTH pulling firefighters AND pulling a building by cables? Documents show that fire/rescue had been "pulled" hours before. Steel framed buildings do not fall due to fire alone, and indirect damage. Here's a definition of "pull" that you need a penis to understand. Sorry for you. index?qid=20071222121843AA85avl
IamNemoN01 3 days ago
@IamNemoN01 "How does 'it' describe people?"
When "it" is a TEAM.
"fire/rescue had been "pulled" hours before"
FALSE; although it's true the FF were evacuated from bld 7 itself hours earlier, they were still ON THE GROUNDS, searching for fallen comrades & preparing to re-enter the building when the final withdrawal order came down later that afternoon.
"Steel framed buildings do not fall due to fire alone"
Actually it DOES happen, and more often than you think.
TimReed22222 3 days ago
@TimReed22222 You're groping now. All rescue was already pulled hours earlier. You're mincing words. And steel structure buildings fall all the time you say? Cite examples. Examples, examples. Empty words. How much are they paying you to be a bad liar?
IamNemoN01 3 days ago
@IamNemoN01 "You're groping now. All rescue was already pulled hours earlier."
Google "Nick Visconti firehouse" & read the interview w/Deputy Chief Visconti; not only was he there, it was HIS job to organize the withdrawal when Chief Nigro's pull order came down - at around 2pm.
Now why would the chief order an evacuation if there was no one to evacuate?
TimReed22222 2 days ago
@TimReed22222 The truth about this matter is already known. Your disinformation & lies are useless.
I'm surprised you would try such a desperate tactic. MAN C'MON!!!
9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!
mrh785 2 days ago
@TimReed22222 Yes, you're right. "It" can be a team. Like The football team. We commonly say "It was doing good this season." ...Oh wait, NO, we actually say THEY were doing good this season. The rules of arguing something like grammar is - know the rules if you're going to try to break the rules. Oh wait a minute, that's for music. You just don't break grammar rules. So why in the heck are you still TRYING? lololololol
IamNemoN01 3 days ago
its funny..people think truthers are the ones making stuff up..if a person looks at that building and tells me it wasnt a cd? they must not have any sense of reality. im not implicating the fdny in the inside job..im just saying it is so obvious it is scary..and yes TIMREED..obviously you do not know any sort of math..you tell me if man made structures were built to fall like that under a little bit of heat caused my a few debris fires.. go get a grip on realiy
katiepeace16 5 days ago
Regardless of Larry's statements....you cant ingnonre the laws of physics. A Building that was damaged a-symetrically, collapsed symetrically into its own footprint at free fall speed through the path of greatest resistance.
Even IF the fires did cause the collapse, there would have to be a total failure of every major support at the exact same time, otherwise the building would have fallen to one side.
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@SIX50R "Regardless of Larry's statements....you cant ingnonre the laws of physics."
Oh YAWN - every truther who watches a couple of YT videos suddenly thinks he's a junior physicist!
There IS NO LAW of physics that says a building with asymmetrical damage must flop over on its side - and I DEFY you to find a real physicist that says so!
TimReed22222 6 days ago
@TimReed22222 this building didn't have asymmetrical damage and it fell the exact same. a couple small fires on a few floors cannot make a building like this collapse the way it did. it's absolutely pathetic that people are so fucking ignorant as to believe the story the government spewed out. it also goes to show you how the 9/11 commission report didn't say a goddamn thing about building 7. wake the fuck up.
2Emos1Razor 5 days ago
@2Emos1Razor It was NOT "a couple small fires." It was NOT "a few floors." Listen to what the men who were THERE say - The FDNY:
"I just remember it was tremendous, tremendous fires going on" - Richard Banaciski
"There was so much [expletive] fire there. This whole pile was burning like crazy" - Lieutenant William Ryan
"It had very heavy fire on many floors" - Chief Daniel Nigro
... And lots more ...
The FDNY don't have a problem with the way 7 fell; why should I?
TimReed22222 4 days ago
@TimReed22222 Because that doesn't prove anything. What even caused the fires? Falling debris? GTFO.
2Emos1Razor 4 days ago
@2Emos1Razor Yes! In case you didn't notice, a flaming skyscraper FELL on it!
Or do you have a crackpot truther theory for the fires, too? That would be a new one!
TimReed22222 4 days ago
@TimReed22222 Actually the "flaming skyscraper" fell into its own footprint. but either way, if you want to believe the "official story" go right ahead.
2Emos1Razor 3 days ago
@2Emos1Razor Yeah? Then how do you explain the debris that spread out OVER 100 YARDS in all directions from each tower? Is that fake?
Obviously the towers did NOT collapse into their own footprints or all those neighboring buildings would still be standing, wouldn't they?
TimReed22222 3 days ago
@TimReed22222 lol you just don't give up do you? can you tell me why exactly the collapse of building 7 was not mentioned anywhere in the 9/11 commission report? and why did BBC report the building fell at 5PM on live television, when it didn't fall for another 20 minutes?
2Emos1Razor 2 days ago
@2Emos1Razor "tell me why exactly the collapse of building 7 was not mentioned anywhere in the 9/11 commission report?"
Because that's not what the 9/11 Commission was for; it was an investigation into what lead UP TO 9/11. Different subject.
"why did BBC report the building fell at 5PM ... when it didn't fall for another 20 minutes?"
The media had been notified hours earlier that 7 was expected to collapse. BBC prepared the release, then gave it to the anchor prematurely.
TimReed22222 1 day ago
@TimReed22222 LMFAO.... A likely story. Anticipated collapse? Where in the world did you hear that from? Other than the videos of firefighters and policeman saying "Everyone move back, the building is going to come down."
2Emos1Razor 1 day ago
@2Emos1Razor Are you for real? You incredulously ask who mentioned the anticipated collapse of WTC 7 and then go on to state exactly WHO anticipated the collapse of WTC 7!
Can you honestly not see the disconnect in your logic?
cantonear1968 1 day ago
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SIX50R 8 hours ago
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@TimReed22222 Oh YAWN, id rather insult people than debate the facts.....its common sense. If one side was greatly damaged before the other, it stands to reason that the greatly damaged side would fail before the other. When one side fails beore the other, the structure would collapse to that side, not straight down.....UNLESS there was complete equal simultainious failure of every support, it could not have come straight down.....jabber all you want to, it couldnt happen any other way.
SIX50R 8 hours ago
Interesting.....Larry Silverstein suggests to the fire dept "maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it". The "IT" he is reffering to when you listen to what Larry is saying, is the building itself. Its easy to say after the fact.....well i meant take the fire dept out of harms way, but listen to Larry's own words. He didnt intimate the FD's direct safety, nor did he say that the FD said we should pull it before hand. Listen to him say that HE SUGGESTED the building be pulled....he used it first.
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@SIX50R "The "IT" he is reffering to when you listen to what Larry is saying, is the building itself."
How can that be when HE *NEVER* MENTIONS THE BUILDING? Listen to it again: He mentions the fires & he mentions the firefighting operation, but he NEVER refers to the building! So how can it be "it"?
If in doubt, ask the firefighters: Pulling OUT is what they were talking about, and pulling OUT is what the firefighters did.
TimReed22222 6 days ago
@TimReed22222 The FD calls and says, were not sure we can contain the fire....Larry then says ok maybe we should PULL it....he didnt say, pull out, he said pull it. Used in context, saying "pull it" is a veiled statement (as in "pull it down") and a way of saying something without directly saying it.
Sort of like "shut up" is a veiled threat....what your really saying is "shut up, or else"
In any event your assuming Larry spoke fluient Fire Fighter....lol and knew exactly what it meant
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@TimReed22222 before hand, because....Larry says that HE suggested it, not the other way around. That assumes Larry knew exactly what that meant and the context of how that word is used in the Fire Fighting world.....sorry you give him to much credit
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@SIX50R No, the FD calls & says "We're not sure we can contain the fire" ... and Larry says We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the best thing to do is PULL THE OPERATION & GET YOUR MEN OUT OF HARM'S WAY. "It" = "the operation."
Doesn't that make a lot more sense - especially in light of the fact that THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE FIREFIGTHERS DID?
Oh, and BTW - you DO realize you're implicating the FDNY - don't you? Is that what you think? That the FDNY was in on it??
TimReed22222 6 days ago
@TimReed22222 you're a fucking idiot.
2Emos1Razor 5 days ago
What ever lol. All of them were controller demolitions without a doubt why don't they ask demolition experts on film in this video how a building falls when when a 47 story building falls on its from catching on fire?
jerbele 6 days ago
Who appointed Larry Silverstein fire chief of New York City? No fire department in the world would make the decision to deploy or not deploy a contingent of firefighters based upon input from a building owner. They would make such a decision on the spot and unilaterally without first soliciting the opinion of the owner. Larry Silverstein does not call the shots at NYFD. The deployment of firefighters was not his call to make, thus his backpedaling explanation has no basis in reality.
chris319 2 weeks ago
@chris319 and if you listen CAREFULLY, you'll hear Larry Silverstein say that THEY (the firefighters) made the decision to pull out of WTC7.
Thank you...next question?
richard20bris 1 week ago
@chris319
what part of "they said" is too complicated for you to understand?
or do you suffer from the well-known truthtard disease of selective hearing?
other symptoms include hearing people state they heard what "sounded like" bombs and processing it as "there were bombs." do you suffer from that symptom too?
the better question is why do you WANT 9/11 to be an inside job?
unclesamsnephew666 1 week ago
@unclesamsnephew666 that is exactly it man.. 9/11 truthers want it to be true so they can continue living this exciting fantasy where they are pioneers of truth against an evil empire.. its fucking stupid
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@xjustin523x u r an idiot... the fact that all these people made so much money off of 9/11 is already so suspicious..... the fact that there is way too much suspicious behaviour surrounding the official investigation makes you an even bigger moron......
codehendrix 1 week ago
@codehendrix you guys dont have one lick of evidence to support anything all you have is misinformation... people who feed you half truths and get you all riled up over the invisible enemy.. are you telling me after seeing this video you still think silverstein meant pull it as in demolish the building? it takes 2 seconds of research.. elsewhere other then youtube to know this is all bullshit.. you people are unbelievable
xjustin523x 1 week ago
@unclesamsnephew666 9/11 was inside job because too many people made money off of it....... also there is way to much suspicious behaviour surrounding the official investigation...... disaster capitalism idiot....! i guess what would i expect from "uncle sam's nephew" fuckin stupid ass name....
codehendrix 1 week ago
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@codehendrix
"9/11 was inside job because too many people made money off of it"
so people exploiting something means they MUST be responsible for it? what are you, 11 yrs old? how stupid.
"there is way to much suspicious behaviour surrounding the official investigation" - like what?
"fuckin stupid ass name" - looks like my moron bait hooked another imbecile.
congrats, most truthers get stumped a little later before they resort to whining about my ID like a cunt.
unclesamsnephew666 6 days ago
@chris319 THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
codehendrix 1 week ago
@chris319 woooow.. he didnt say he decided.. he said he suggested and they made the decision to pull... stop.. being.. so... fucking... RETARDED
xjustin523x 1 week ago
BULL IT!!
thevinnietee 2 weeks ago
So how did this tower collapse if it wasn't demolished?
trance4ulimousine 2 weeks ago
@trance4ulimousine Google "wtc7 single point of failure" & read the article from Structure Magazine.
TimReed22222 2 weeks ago
@trance4ulimousine
/watch?v=uFJa9WUy5QI
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Debunk the institutions that made "Put Options" against AA just prior to 9/11?
sss1ck 3 weeks ago
@sss1ck Higher volumes of put options were placed on airline companies at other points earlier in the year. Airlines weren't doing well around that time and AA had recently reported that they would be expecting losses. It's really not as damning as CT make it sound...
Ahuc899 2 weeks ago
@sss1ck THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
codehendrix 1 week ago
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"I remember getting a call from the uh fire department commander telling me that they were not sure they would be able to contain the fire AND I said you know we had such terrible loss of life maybe the smartest thing to do is is pull it AND they made that decision to pull AND then we watched the building collapse".
He's using the term "pull it" in the context of the building falling down.
The fire department made the decision to "pull" in the context of abandoning attempts to contain the fire.
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theres nothing to argue about. watch the video you all need to grow up. you want to disagree juss to disagree. you can look up larry silversteins complete explination on the term pull/ pull it when he used it. Anyone who believes that our goverment caused the horrific terroist attacks are demonic little fucks!!!!!!!!!!!!
packers4440 1 month ago
WTFU SHEEPLE
Truthsout81 1 month ago
Btw if you need the sites let me know as it would not let me post them here. No doubt you will claim I created them.....
danum442 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Ok I have found three with the following quotes:
'Performed eighteen “Cut and Pulls” activities of the upper deck, including a test pull for Department of Buildings’ approval.'
"explosives were used to pull down the Y-shaped tower building."
"City to end dice-and-pull building demolition"
I do not believe many of the conspiracy theories however there are some very important questions that are not being asked. You Sir are as bad as the people that suggest holograms 'flew' into the twin towers
danum442 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Hmmmm
danum442 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
What an insulting shill crock - you have to be a junior megaphony looking for a bonus. At the very least even you should see a possible link in this sentence "AND THEY MADE THE DECISION TO PULL, AND THEN WE WATCHED THE BUILDING COLLAPSE" one statement following another, almost like they are related. Also fire chiefs don't pull out of burning buildings, they put them out, thats their job - so "Pulling out of the building" is another pathetic decoy, Surely yanks don't buy this BS.
bimbo99 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
The only thing that I'm trying to say is this Larry Silverstein said PULL IT then he said PULL thats all i'm getting at, what he meant by it doesn't matter, its just the fact that he did in fact say "PULL IT" and if you deny that your blind and deaf.
halfcab123 1 month ago
@halfcab123 "The only thing that I'm trying to say is this Larry Silverstein said PULL IT then he said PULL thats all i'm getting at"
Well that's obvious enough, and no one is denying it.
"what he meant by it doesn't matter"
Doesn't it??? You truthers are ready to hang the man based on what you think it means - I think whether you're right or wrong about that matters quite a bit!
TimReed22222 1 month ago
@TimReed22222 well he may have been referring to another building, several buildings were pulled down with cables that day, i think it was confusion or something, but its also possible they rigged it to blow because it was unsafe... i don't know man i just think its a little fishy, but i'm not a conspiracy theorist.
halfcab123 1 month ago
@halfcab123 What?? So now we're not even talking about bld 7? Then what ARE we talking about? What's your beef with Larry Silverstein, then?
"several buildings were pulled down with cables that day"
Incorrect. The only building that was pulled, AFAIK, was building 6 - and that was done weeks later.
"its also possible they rigged it to blow"
Firefighters, forensics experts & demo experts combed the wreckage by hand for weeks after 9/11; NO evidence of explosives were found. None.
TimReed22222 1 month ago
@TimReed22222 except for the thermite, man you guys should do more reading. So when the only 3 steel framed buildings fall in the same day due to fires into their own footprint, you stick your head in the sand ? Building 7 could have burned for days and days and never fell.
halfcab123 1 month ago
@halfcab123 @halfcab123 "except for the thermite"
WHAT thermite? The thermite claim comes from a single team, and was NEVER VERIFIED by actual thermite experts. The folks claiming this has been unwilling or unable to get their paper peer reviewed, or their results reproduced.
And if the thermite experts are not convinced, I'm not convinced. NO PROOF OF THERMITE.
TimReed22222 1 month ago
"Building 7 could have burned for days and days and never fell."
Says WHO? Find me one qualified building engineer who would agree with that statement! You can't! Real engineers would NEVER endorse silly statements like a building can burn indefinitely without falling; they know that burning buildings have time limits. NO building is fireproof.
TimReed22222 1 month ago
as long as everyone knows that this video is bunk thats really all the matters.
halfcab123 1 month ago
Have you never seen the vid's of NYPD telling crowds to get back their gonna bring down the bldg. Then you hear the explosions. Free fall speed in on it's own footprint. Nice try troll.
thepatriot1976 1 month ago
He did say "PULL IT" Wtf ? How does "PULL IT" refer to firefighters leaving a building, this video doesn't even make sense man!? None of the points in this video do anyhting. You should have put ads on his video to atleast make some moneys off the 32,000 hits so far... otherwise just another hunk of youtube junk...
halfcab123 1 month ago
@halfcab123 "How does "PULL IT" refer to firefighters leaving a building"
For the answer, let's hear from FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro:
"The biggest decision we had to make on the first day was to clear the area and create a collapse zone around the severely damaged 7 World Trade Center, a 47-story building heavily involved in fire ... I issued the orders to PULL back the firefighters"
TimReed22222 1 month ago
@TimReed22222 Wow and he responds lol. Dude look, he's not talking about firefighters when he says "IT" how can you be so blind to that ? He is saying IT referring to the building which is being pulled, what he meant by that is not known, conspiracy, no conspiracy, your wrong, IT =! Firefighters. And the fact that the video said he doesn't say PULL IT, even furthers the erroneousness of this crap. Its just ignorance.
halfcab123 1 month ago
@halfcab123 Because YOUR way just doesn't make sense!
- Civilians (i.e. Larry) can NOT tell firefighters how to conduct their operations.
- Firefighters do NOT perform demolitions (and they certainly wouldn't lie about it afterward if they did).
- ALL of the firefighters, right up to the chief of the department, spoke of EVACUATING; "pulling" out. NONE spoke of demolition.
They were talking about pulling the firefighting operation, not the building.
TimReed22222 1 month ago
Thank you for posting this vid! Teach the insane the reality of what happened.
thedebunker911 1 month ago
This is a ridiculous rebuttal. "Pull It" is singular and odd usage to apply to an entire fire department. Second, the video clearly shows a building falling by controlled demolition - a demolition that would have to be planned well in advance of the day it falls. Who made this video? Larry Silverstein?
JIMBONI7 1 month ago
Too bad The building was evacuated hours before they decided to "PULL IT"..
what a lame Video! nice try though
Joskel362 1 month ago
@Joskel362 "Too bad The building was evacuated hours before they decided to "PULL IT".."
There may have been no on INSIDE 7 after it was evacuated, but there were *hundreds* of firefighters ALL AROUND 7, performing search & rescue ops & preparing to re-enter the building when the "pull" order came down.
So yes, there WERE firefighters to pull.
TimReed22222 1 month ago
Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
That is all.
JohnClaypool 1 month ago
You've gotta love these sheeple 'debunkers' lol perhaps i don't understand the definition of debunking (debunk away lol) but what most people want to know is why the building came down. I don't see any 'debunking' with regards to the obvious explanation of collapse, never before seen with a steel structured building. Allow me to define debunking: Reaction of scared defensive entities to discovery of truth :)
arsenalrule2001uk 1 month ago
@arsenalrule2001uk "but what most people want to know is why the building came down."
Why do you talk as if bld 7 was never investigated? It was, and not just by the government; A little googling will reveal several peer-reviewed papers by real building engineers - and they ALL point to fire as the cause, not demolition.
TimReed22222 1 month ago
@TimReed22222 An 'investigation' that directly contradicts scientific possibility proves nothing. Google steel structured building collapsing in on itself due to small fire and see what happens. Gandhi once said "even in a minority of one, the truth is still the truth." If every corporation and conglomerate on this planet told you that Red was Blue, would you agree?!
arsenalrule2001uk 1 month ago
@arsenalrule2001uk "An 'investigation' that directly contradicts scientific possibility proves nothing."
Oh YAWN. Gotta love truthers who watch a youtube vid or two & think that makes them an expert on what is "scientifically possible." lol!
Are YOU a scientist? A structural engineer? No??? Then what makes you more of an expert on what is "scientifically possible" than those who are?
Ignoring REAL scientists is the truther's only argument.
TimReed22222 1 month ago
@TimReed22222 Same old 'debunker' tactics at work here. 'I cant validate my incinuations so i'll sidestep the prominent issue, behave like a juvenile, baselessly mock and attack the messenger rather than the message. Address my point, quote one single steel structured building collapsing in on itself due to fire. Watch this space :)
arsenalrule2001uk 1 month ago
@arsenalrule2001uk Sorry, wrong! But thanks for playing!
The correct answer is: My tactic is to point out that you have offered neither fact nor expertise to back you theory that is CONTRADICTED by ACTUAL EXPERTS on the subject. You have given no reason why you are right, and every respected professional study on the subject is wrong.
TimReed22222 1 month ago
@TimReed22222 I'm still waiting for you to quote a single steel structured building in gistory to which this has occured. Tell you what, let's say i grant you an interim benefit of doubt on this particular matter, in view of impartiality. 'Debunking' 911 conspiracies one at a time; i want to see you state that Bin Laden was responsible as orchestrator. Do me a favour, have a little glimpse into your oh so righteous NIST and the people in charge at the time of 911.
arsenalrule2001uk 1 month ago
@arsenalrule2001uk "I'm still waiting for you to quote a single steel structured building in gistory to which this has occured."
Silly exercise; "this" has never occurred before, so what is there to compare it to? You want to play that game? Fine. YOU tell me of the last time a building of 7's EXACT design burned unchecked for 7 hours AND SURVIVED.
"i want to see you state that Bin Laden was responsible as orchestrator."
Why? What does my opinion matter?
TimReed22222 1 month ago
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@TimReed22222 I'm still waiting for you to quote a single steel structured building in gistory to which this has occured. Tell you what, let's say i grant you an interim benefit of doubt on this particular matter, in view of impartiality. 'Debunking' 911 conspiracies one at a time; i want to see you state that Bin Laden was responsible as orchestrator. Do me a favour, have a little glimpse into your oh so righteous NIST and the people in charge at the time of 911.
arsenalrule2001uk 1 month ago
@TimReed22222 If you're so convinced of the official narrative, why even research it at all, unlike most sheeple. You can't be a 'debunker' until you've researched the predominant 'conspiracy theories' and if you've done that you obviously don't accept the official narrative. OR you have an alterior motive. I don't purport to be correct, just to investigate anomalies whereas you do. You're as transparent as a window my friend. Exercise in futility Mr Disinfo :)
arsenalrule2001uk 1 month ago
@TimReed22222 ...NIST? Respected? Not even as much as Popular Mechanics...who isn't.
JohnClaypool 1 month ago
@JohnClaypool
ASCE? Respected.
SEoNY? Respected.
M.I.T.? Respected? Northwestern, Purdue? Respected.
Structure Mag? Respected. And I'm sure there are plenty I'm missing ...
TimReed22222 1 month ago
@TimReed22222 Lest we forget what happens when anyone discredits or disagrees with the official narrative, personal and/or professional destruction and ridicule.
Gone are the days of common sense and critical thinking, in are the days of, believe what your government tells you!
arsenalrule2001uk 1 month ago
The music goes perfect with this lame video, a real comical joke. Most people don't believe the official story, and this Silverstein idiot does not make any sense. I'm a New Yorker and have seen plenty of huge building fires a lot worst than this, and not once did the fire dept pulled out and let it burn. They put it out and went on their merry way. Only a dummy would believe that ridiculous explanation....LOL!
mrql123 2 months ago
@mrql123 "Most people don't believe the official story"
Completely untrue! That's a truther fantasy.
"I'm a New Yorker and have seen plenty of huge building fires a lot worst than this"
Again, I call bullshit! Please tell us about ONE single-building fire in NYC that was larger than WTC7.
"and not once did the fire dept pulled out and let it burn."
Well, we know for a FACT that's what they did on 9/11 - because that's what the firefighters SAID they did! Are you saying they're lying?
TimReed22222 2 months ago
@TimReed22222 I can't believe that people are so dumb to believe that a 47-story building fell like a deck of cards due to 3 burning floors. These are the same people who believe in toothfairy and Santa Claus. I've seen a skyscaper in Spain that burned for hours, engulfing the whole building and it did NOT fall. I never heard of firefighters letting such a tall building burn with only 3 floors buring. Do your research and stop living in your fantasy world.
mrql123 2 months ago
@mrql123 "I can't believe that people are so dumb to believe that a 47-story building fell like a deck of cards due to 3 burning floors."
#1 NO ONE believes that - because the fires were MUCH WORSE than 3 floors! Truthers always find it necessary to minimize the scope of the fires but the men WHO WERE THERE describe SEVERE fires on MANY floors.
#2 By "dumb" do you mean the firefighters WHO WERE THERE, and structural engineering experts such as those at the ASCE & Structure Mag?
TimReed22222 2 months ago
@TimReed22222 So the fires were much worse than 3 floors? Hahahahaha! That's the dummest thing you said so far. Building do NOT fall down like a deck of cards due to fire - it's impossible. If the fires were THAT bad, the building would have never fallen at free-fall style..NEVER! You've been watching too many cartoons and got it confused with reality. There have been skyscrapers with much more intense fire, engulfing the bldg and never came down.
mrql123 2 months ago
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TimReed22222 2 months ago
@mrql123 "So the fires were much worse than 3 floors? Hahahahaha! That's the dummest thing you said so far."
But it was not *I* who said that; it was the FIREFIGHTERS who were THERE:
"I just remember it was tremendous, tremendous fires going on." - FDNY Firefighter Richard Banaciski
"It had very heavy fire on many floors" - FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro
"There had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors." - FDNY Captain Chris Boyle
cont'd
TimReed22222 2 months ago
"We walked over by number Seven ... and saw this 40-plus story building with fire on nearly all floors." – FDNY Lieutenant Robert Larocco
"You're hearing this building creak and fully involved in flames." –FDNY Lieutenant James McGlynn
"The fire was going virtually on every floor" - FDNY Dep. Chief Nick Visconti
"When the building came down it was completely involved in fire." –FDNY Assistant Chief Harry Myers
More?
TimReed22222 2 months ago
@TimReed22222 Hahahahaha......what a joke! That's a bunch of bull! All I saw was 3 floors on fire, NOT nearly ALL floors. Even if the whole building was engulfed in flames it would not fall down, especally free-fall style. Buildings do not fall like a deck of cards - they fall sideways and disorganized. More and more people are waking up and asking questions. Can you explain why BBC reported bldg 7 collapsed 20 min before it did?
mrql123 2 months ago
@mrql123 "That's a bunch of bull! All I saw was 3 floors on fire"
What YOU saw? Who cares what YOU saw?? YOU WEREN'T THERE! All YOU saw was a few cherry-picked photos & video clips! I'll stick with the sworn testimony of DOZENS of trustworthy veteran firefighters WHO WERE THERE, thank you - testimony that described the fires as severe and numerous.
Why should anyone believe YOU over THEM?
TimReed22222 1 month ago
@TimReed22222 I don't believe it one bit, and even if all those floor were on fire, the building would not fall down to the ground, especially in such a free-fall manner. You're liviing in a fairytale, or you've been watching too much cartoons. Your explanations sound too ridiculous, so you might as well drop this conversation. The more you post, the funnier it gets.
mrql123 2 months ago
@mrql123 "even if all those floor were on fire, the building would not fall down to the ground"
Oh, really? So now you're an expert in building engineering, are you? No? Then what are your qualifications for making such broad statements that REAL engineers do not make? What makes you right, and actual structural engineers wrong?
Nothing's funnier to me than a truther playing engineer!
TimReed22222 1 month ago
@TimReed22222 Am I an expert? Of course not, but don’t take it from me – I’m getting this info from the REAL experts who are engineers and architects from the video “Architects and Engineers - Expose Building 7 Controlled Demolition”. It’s common sense anyway. Please stop making a fool out yourself. There are thousands of engineers who disagree with the official story, more like a Cinderella story, and people are dumb enough to believe it.
mrql123 1 month ago
@mrql123 "It’s common sense anyway."
Ah, yes. The rallying cry of the inexpert truther! In fact, the world's building experts do NOT believe in the 9/11 inside job - but hey! It's common sense!
"There are thousands of engineers who disagree with the official story"
More exaggeration! You cannot even claim that "thousands" have even signed their little petition, let alone participate in A&Etruth in any meaningful way; THAT number is just a small handful.
TimReed22222 1 month ago
@TimReed22222 Look up “Madrid Windsor Highrise Fire 2005” on YT and see a high-rise on fire. The building went down into chunks, NOT free-fall style, and this was a much more intense fire than bldg 7. Even a monkey knows that a 47-story bldg doesn’t collapse free-fall style due to structural fire. You're either working for the governement or dumb as a door knob.
mrql123 1 month ago
@mrql123 "Look up Madrid Windsor Highrise ..." MORE silliness. COMPLETELY different design, construction, and circumstances. Comparing one building that collapsed with a different one that didn't is a WORTHLESS EXERCISE - one which, I promise you, NO engineer worth his or her salt would ever endorse. There are so many differences!
For example, did you know that unlike 7, the Windsor Tower had a CONCRETE CORE? And its designers credit THAT with saving it from collapse? Interesting, huh?
TimReed22222 1 month ago
@TimReed22222 This video, “2010 Shanghai high-rise fire” is another example of a tall building on fire and looking nothing like building 7 fall on its own footprint.
This is another good example video - “Aftermath of Oriental Tower fire “. Building 7 should look like that, not collapsing like a deck of cards. Stop watching those Saturday morning cartoons and do your investigation, like a grown up.
mrql123 1 month ago
@mrql123 "do your investigation, like a grown up."
Strong statement from someone who's best source appears to be Richard Gage & a thorough viewing of Loose Change! lol
Richard Gage, Stephen Jones, Dylan Avery et. al. are CON ARTISTS - and as soon as you "do your investigation like a grown up" you'll realize it.
TimReed22222 1 month ago
@mrql123 "This video, “2010 Shanghai high-rise fire”"
And one thing that happened at that fire is lots of people reported hearing "loud explosions". Does that mean the NWO/CIA imploded it? But wait: it didn't fall!
What does that mean?! Explosions HAVE to mean explosives, do the building must have collapsed!
But it didn't!
I'm going to have to call the overlords on this one!
cantonear1968 1 month ago
@TimReed22222 Go to that Barry Jennings video and forward to 2:52.
mrql123 2 months ago
@mrql123 Okay, I watched the interview. And ...?
TimReed22222 1 month ago
@TimReed22222 What do you mean, And...? You don't want to talk about the guy hearing explosions IN bldg 7? The man knew what an explosion was and made it known to the public through this interview. Not too long after that interview he mysteriously died. Lots of people are wondering why, but of course, they'll never get a true answer for that.
mrql123 1 month ago
@mrql123 LOTS of people reported "explosions"; it's a word commonly used to describe a really loud noise, and there were plenty of THOSE. But bombs are not the only possible cause. Falling debris - and bodies - were also described as "explosions." Use of the word might make you suspicious & that's fine, but it's far short of proof.
What *I* want to see is PHYSICAL EVIDENCE of a bomb. Show me this - with a little EXPERT verification, please - and I'll sit up & take notice.
TimReed22222 1 month ago
@TimReed22222 What about Barry Jennings? Go to "World Exclusive: WTC7 Survivor Barry Jennings Account" on YT and skip to 2:52. He was inside the building and tells what happened. He was the Emergency Coordinator of bldg 7.
mrql123 2 months ago
@mrql123 BTW still waiting for you to back up the following claims you made:
WHERE is the evidence that "Most people don't believe the official story"?
WHEN & WHERE was there a building fire in New York more severe than bld 7?
TimReed22222 2 months ago
@TimReed22222 Go anywhere online or YT and you'll find that most do not fall for the official story. By the way, have you watch the video about Barry Jennings? Do you think the guy was lying? He was the Emergency Coordnator at bldg 7, and he and Mr. Hess were trapped in the bldg before it came down like a deck of cards. Also, why did BBC reported bldg 7 collapsed to the ground 20 before the actually fall? Explain that one.
mrql123 2 months ago
@mrql123 "Go anywhere online or YT and you'll find that most do not fall for the official story."
LOL! So your statistical sample is truthers gathering around truther videos?? Too funny ...
"By the way, have you watch the video about Barry Jennings?"
I started to - then, when your point was not immediately apparent after about 60 seconds I remembered I don't let truthers waste my time. If you'd care to tell us EXACTLY what Jennings said you find significant?
TimReed22222 2 months ago
@TimReed22222 You're kidding, right? You didn't watch the whole video on Barry Jennings? What are you afraid of? I told you to skip on to 2:52 where he is actually speaking. Why don't you go back and listen to it again, except skip to 2:52....I dare you. Let me know what you think about it.
mrql123 2 months ago
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great video! conspiracy theorist should have there skin dyed in a rainbow pattern, so we can clearly identify them walking among us during our daily lives. wait, maybe poca dots would be more amusing? Haha
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Apparently you never researched the term "Pull it" thoroughly. It has been used for many years in that industry. You must keep looking at more than just your first search result.
garybch 2 months ago
@garybch Obviously you haven't learned thoroughly either. Watch the whole video smartass.
xxchristswarriorxx1 2 months ago
@garybch
"We have never, ever heard the term “pull it” being used to refer to the explosive demolition of a building, and neither has any blast team we’ve spoken with. The term is used in conventional demolition circles to describe the specific activity of attaching long cables to a pre-weakened building and maneuvering heavy equipment (excavators, bulldozers, etc.) to “pull” the frame of the structure over onto its side for further dismantlement."
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911 TRUTH DEBUNKED!
ctcole77 2 months ago
@garybch "Pull it" has only been used to literally pull a building down; as was done for WTC 6.
"pull it" is not used to CD a building using explosives.
Literally the dumbest of any truther claim.
cantonear1968 2 months ago
Debunk the military grade thermite found in the debris by MIT professors!
garybch 2 months ago
@garybch
"Debunk the military grade thermite found in the debris by MIT professors!"
First off they never found military grade thermite. They found paint chips that had similar elements with thermite.
Second only two of the researchers were professors and none of them were from MIT. Nice try LIAR.
Third none of the researchers were experts and they used a fake journal to publish their paper. They still havent got their work peer reviewed and its been 2 years.
911 TRUTH DEBUNKED!
ctcole77 2 months ago
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@garybch "Debunk the military grade thermite found in the debris by MIT professors! "
First off, tell me what MIT professor found this.
Secondly, none was found.
Debunked!
cantonear1968 2 months ago
but what about when Silverstein purchased a 99-year lease on the entire WTC complex weeks before 9/11 and insured it for $3.55 billion. I dont see you talking about that.
11consciousness11 2 months ago
@11consciousness11 That was when the contract was awarded by the Port Authority; Silverstein didn't control the timing.
And insurance from terrorist attack is a requirement for any rental property in Manhattan. This was put in place after the '93 bombings.
cantonear1968 2 months ago
@11consciousness11 He knew that the WTC1/2buildings were asbestos ridden too
HardcoreJungFunk 2 months ago
that contradicts an interview i saw via Loose Change wheret he owner of a demolition company was interviewed and was not aware that the WTC7 had come down and he even said because he is an expert in his field that it was a controlled demolition. There's a reason why there wasn't alot of news stories about WTC7 coming down because it housed files from numerous wall street fraud scandals such as world com and enron. It was also where 9/11 was planned. Too much evidence to be left around!
LiveFromVCR 2 months ago
@LiveFromVCR You're a speaking about Danny Jowenko, a dutch demolition expert (who unfortunately was killed this past Summer in a car accident). Yes, he believed, after seeing a video, that WTC 7 was demo'd. He then went on to explain what would be necessary to do this, only to find out the building was on fire at the time and he stated "I can't explain it".
He also claimed in the same interview that WTCs 1 & 2 were definitely NOT CD. Do you accept that assessment from him?
cantonear1968 2 months ago
@cantonear1968 yes i believe that was the gentlemen i was speaking about. Very sad to hear that he was killed this past summer! I cannot comment on his assement that WTC north and south tower were not CD because i have not seen that interview from him,if you have a link can you please provide one? In my opinion having witnessed many Las Vegas hotels and old stadiums get imploded from controlled demolitions i see many similarities with WTC7 and those hotels.
LiveFromVCR 2 months ago
@LiveFromVCR This should take you to the Jowenko interview on WTCs 1 & 2:
watch?v=k3wwdI0XawI&feature=channel_video_title
If nit, it is favourited on my channel.
Ok. WTC 7 "looked like" a CD (in the sense it collapsed). Now, how should that have differed from a natural collapse, given the conditions of the building?
cantonear1968 2 months ago
Stu-
English is a written language, do you understand the concept?
The funny letters make sounds that form words that form facts that YOU IGNORE.
Hans Christian Andersen subtitled this video.
Behold MISINFORMATION.
Must try harder next time- if you are to fool the PRO's
breakit46 3 months ago
Good these videos, just shows that Conspiracy Theorists only listen to what they want to hear, and aren't interested in facts from experts.
Stu3100 3 months ago
@Stu3100 Yeah,the conspiracy theorists are totally stupid for believing that a government that lied to attack a country (iraq) could lie about 9-11.They are stupid to believe that the fbi that orchestrated the 1993 wtc attacks (proven fact) could have done the same on 9-11.They are stupid to believe that governments and secret services that did criminal acts like "operation northwood" and "operation gladio" could plan 9-11.
You are a very well informed,smart and not naive.
geiuy 3 months ago
@geiuy
'fbi that orchestrated the 1993 wtc attacks'? thats a new one, just made that up have you?
So if the US government carried out 9/11, it would've taken quite alot of people to cover this up and make it look like Islamic terrorists, don't ya reckon? yet 10 years on, NO-ONE has opened there mouths about it, and that would include, possibly, old people on there death beds? now get a fuckin life and stop sticking up for them scummy paki bastards Al Qaeda/Taliban.
Stu3100 3 months ago
@Stu3100 Google "emad salem 1993 wtc fbi"?there are interesting audio tapes u can listen to.They know that people are planning an attack (search for "able danger") and they let them do it.9-11 resulted in the invasions of afghanistan and iraq,weapons sales,oil control,opium control,more money to the f.b.i and c.i.a,new anti terrorists laws etc,do u not get it?i'm sure if u study operation gladio u would change your mind.
geiuy 3 months ago
@Stu3100: Amen.
PooPoo2U 3 months ago
Hans Christian Andersen subtitled this video.
Behold MISINFORMATION.
Must try harder next time- if you are to fool the PRO's
breakit46 3 months ago
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when mr larry said "pull it", some claims that he was only talking about the firemens etc that needed to pull away from the building, because it is going to collapse. Well, do we speak "it" or "them" if we're talking about people...
EvilKnievel1980 3 months ago
@NickWaterfall Pull THEM" then may have been more accurate?
mancini1966 3 months ago
@mancini1966 "Pull the contingent of firefighters remaining in the building" or "Pull it".
NickWaterfall 3 months ago
I tell ya what, Since the FF's never went inside Building 7. How in the hell could "Pull it" retain to the FF's.
This Video really sucks!! -Maybe the smartest thing to do would be "pull it"
Snowman374th 3 months ago
Firefighters never went into building 7
nb45001 3 months ago
@nb45001 They did visit the building before collapse.
NickWaterfall 3 months ago
@NickWaterfall so the firefighters pulled from outside the the building
nb45001 3 months ago
@nb45001 They were told to leave the place or "pull out". You don't want to get caught in the collapse they predicted.
NickWaterfall 3 months ago
@NickWaterfall how come this video says the firefighters remaining in the building
nb45001 3 months ago
@nb45001 What do you mean? They left the area before collapse, no lives were lost.
NickWaterfall 3 months ago
@NickWaterfall 2.16-2.25
nb45001 3 months ago
@nb45001 It says that by pull it, he meant pull away the remaining firefighters. EASY AS THAT. I need sleep, good night.
NickWaterfall 3 months ago
@NickWaterfall good night
nb45001 3 months ago
This discussion is over, not because you won (which I doubt you will), but because my fingers hurt after typing all this. We've had a nice talk, thank you.
NickWaterfall 3 months ago
Complete silence. Hehe.
NickWaterfall 3 months ago
@NickWaterfall
Sorry i have a life unlike you.
bennythebearful 3 months ago
@bennythebearful Yeah, I know. I wasted my life figuring out 9/11. Unlike you, you need to take care of your life instead of researching 9/11 all the time.
NickWaterfall 3 months ago
@NickWaterfall
911 is accepted FACT as an inside job. Only the peasants believe it was imaginary terrorists.
bennythebearful 3 months ago
@bennythebearful Inside job... utter garbage. You're just a part of an organization making up the most bizarre reasons for 9/11.
NickWaterfall 3 months ago
@NickWaterfall Bizzare, I tell ya what!
The rocket designed to bring the landing module down to the Moon's surface should create a blast hole just before it hits that surface with dust flying everywhere, Yet this one did not. In fact none of the trips did. Plus all the shadows were wrong for reflection off the Sun.
The United states people bought it all, Every word.
the events on 9/11 just proves how ignorant people are to advance technology & techniques used for mass deception.
inside job!
Snowman374th 3 months ago
@Snowman374th outside job
NickWaterfall 3 months ago
@NickWaterfall
How you going to prove it wasn't. I'm sure you will try your very best Teach.
Snowman374th 3 months ago
@Snowman374th Why would I?
NickWaterfall 3 months ago
@NickWaterfall
You know why. You are a child so your opinion doesn't really matter anyways. You will learn more as you grow. So far it sounds like your on the wrong track. I can only imagine your mind in about 5 years. pathetic.
Snowman374th 3 months ago
@Snowman374th The fuck? Since when did I suddenly become a child? Anyway, you say that the rocket should blast away things, but there's no air, no atmosphere. Show me evidence of incorrect shadows.
A combination of plane crashes and intense fires triggered the collapse of both World Trade Centers. The WTC7 collapse was just a side-effect of the two towers collapsing.
NickWaterfall 3 months ago
@NickWaterfall 15 doesn't make you a man. sorry sonny. You've got a lot to learn about this shit.
Did you see them walking. What was that called they were kicking up? then tell me why this wouldn't be affected by thrusters designed to slowly place it on the surface.?
Towers were designed to catch multiple impacts of the same size & same day & they did. 1 larger newer would not make a difference in size compared to multiple planes hitting at once. B-7, yeah right.
a lot to learn kid.
Snowman374th 3 months ago
@Snowman374th Age doesn't matter. Experience does. And yes, I've experienced quite a bit.
The towers were designed to catch a slow-going 707. They never knew someone would intentionally fly a plane at about 550 miles per hour straight into the World Trade Center. So both towers were heavily damaged from the inside out. And fires weakened the remaining support.
NickWaterfall 3 months ago
@NickWaterfall
Hahah so your telling me the designers just built them to withstand for the slowest flight & low fuel level huh. & 550, impossible you need to talk to some pilots who fly them, They'll tell you that speed would rip the plane apart. Also check out how NASA was crashing them on purpose to see how they react to poles obstacles Etc.
come on show me you deserve a voice.
Snowman374th 3 months ago
@Snowman374th NASA flew a small F-something plane into a strong wall. WTC is a friggin' hollow cheaply-built tower from the 60's never intended to withstand the power of a large fast-going airplane carrying 10,000 gallons of jetfuel. No conspiracy; end of line.
NickWaterfall 3 months ago