The Cheese Grid

[DanteLuvBD]

how to do flam cheese?

[mexicanpoptart17]

lol, only a little faster

[dittletapaccent]

Can someone please explain to me what "grids" are?

[Bluecoatsdrummer2012]

where do you find all of these rudiments?

[itachimercenary15]

jizz in my pants

[NonUsefulBodies]

Can somebody please help me answer this question? What is a "grid"?

[glennsnare09]

@NonUsefulBodies its when you take a sticking pattern (triplets) and you keep it the same while moving the accent around. for instance

TR p let

tr P let

tr p LET

does that make since?

[glennsnare09]

@NonUsefulBodies you can do it with any rudiment. Parra Diddles

PA ra di dlle

pa RA di dle

pa ra DI dle

pa ra di DLE basically....

R l r r l r l l

r L r r l r l l

r l R r l r l l

and so on... just keep the rudiment the same and move the accent around. bam there you have it. you'll be gridding things like a pro in no time

[NonUsefulBodies]

@glennsnare09 Ah, I see, thanks!

[PureChillCru]

@glennsnare09 if you can say it you can play it. lol

[nelfam4]

why do you put that random stuff in your description?

[Atragnis]

whats the accent pattern? in the beginning i recognize its just shifting the accent back but then it changes and i loose it. Anyone able to help me out?

[TheClarkDrummer702]

I'm sorry, I read that as "A little faster"

[MoustacheCloud]

You look like a really accomplished drummer.

[EA29435]

cool

[nickheck]

@optsyn Hey KT, do you ever have issues with tendonitis? I play with an east coast style pretty similar to yours in most ways. I stay relaxed and try to use my wrists as much as possible to get good sound quality, but the last few days i've been having issues with my wrists, is it just the style in general, or am I probably just doing something wrong?

[Isntthisalreadytaken]

I'd be hard-pressed to find anyone else that can play this so well at BOTH tempos. You really never cease to amaze.

[optsyn]

@the1nnerpeace You've got a good mind for technique. I think there are a lot of really good philosophies out there... many of which contradict (at least partly) each other. I think that's something that's really cool and interesting about marching percussion... there are many different approaches to the same basic idea. It makes for a lot of variety in the ways different groups play, and the way groups used to play vs the way they do now. I can't tell you how many times my own philosophy has..

[optsyn]

@optsyn evolved over time. The main point is... I'm not sure if there is a truely "correct" way to approach snare drumming. I love the fact that you can watch SCV 2004, Phantom 06, Blue Knights 2000, Cadets 2005 and Star 93...5 extremely clean, talented drumlines approach the intrstument in wildly different ways. There's something to be said for that, I think.

[optsyn]

@optsyn The day that every group approaches the instrument the same day is the day that I'll stop being interested in the activity.

[JumpShotDude]

@optsyn you made a comment to yourself there. just wanted to point out haha. but yeah I agree. different techniques with different lines makes this activity interesting and gives it variety. It's great that people like know well about it!

[cwsmith73]

awfully quick cheese mc-griddles you got going there. like it.

[littlesnareboy]

I think your left thumb points to the air a little too much when you played faster but this may just be a personal preference issue.

[optsyn]

I think you may be getting "least amount of effort" and "stroking things out" confused. I'm still playing with an efficient legato stroke.... each note is a quick burst of energy, and I'm not lifting the stick (unless I'm going from a tap to an accent). Some lines will preach allowing the stroke to decay, and that's one thing. It's still possible to play efficiently, while being articulate with every note. Check out Crown.

[zharston]

@optsyn This. A thousand times, this.

[AjaxHammer6]

why do you play so much velocity even at the slower tempos. It seems like your pounding the heck out of the pad.

[optsyn]

@AjaxHammer6 Its just a matter of taste and technique. IMO, superior sound quality is directly linked to the velocity of the stick. Notice, all that velocity coming from the wrist; it's all rotational acceleration. I was trying to make a concerted effort here to stroke the diddles out on the cheeses. I think it's important to articulate every note to get a very crisp, concise sound. It may seem like I'm pounding here... but also remember, I'm playing on a hard pad with no rebound.

[optsyn]

@optsyn Also, Velocity and Tempo shouldn't share any sort of relationship. Velocity should remain constant regardless of the tempo.

[AjaxHammer6]

@optsyn

yea i noticed i said that while typing and didnt feel like backspacing. I understand all of this stuff. idk, maybe i just don't like the idea of stroking everything out. Maybe because nowadays at corps camps, we always get preached about using the least amount of effort possible while still maintaining good sound quality and rhythmic interp. It just seems like a lot more effort is put into it than it should. But whatev, it's still good.

just my opinion.

[the1nnerpeace]

@optsyn Yes but this is just one school of thought, which is actually becoming undermined by more and more lines today. There is in fact an unavoidable DIRECT relationship between tempo and velocity (to be fair, this is a "Rennickism" so I can't take credit for it, haha)

[the1nnerpeace]

@the1nnerpeace (Part 2) Even using your technique, set your met to 184bpm, and play sixteenth notes (singles) at 9". Now play singles at 9" at your max (god knows you can play fast, haha :) Notice anything? Your singles will become louder, even though the height has (presumably) not changed.

[optsyn]

@the1nnerpeace That's a very interesting point.

[the1nnerpeace]

@optsyn [Part 1] (BTW I'm not trying to insult; I've been really inspired by your channel!) I'm just pointing out why I think the "beat the crap out of the drum" mentality is [as it should be] on its way out. I've met so many drummers who insist on pounding their 3" taps, claiming that it is to "play through the drum" or to "get snare response". This simply isnt' true (Phantom, BAC, and SCV still sound great at 3" without doing it) In addition, why are tenor/bass players taught to do it...

[the1nnerpeace]

@the1nnerpeace [Part 2] ...if their drums don't have snares? Even if we humor this idea, and say that it was necessary to "pound" to get bottom head response, why not just play the taps higher? Not to mention how much dynamic contrast is lost when one makes the effort to "put as much energy into a tap as you do an accent". Consider also how impractical this "full-stroke-tap" approach becomes when playing faster. Set your met to 152, and play 8th notes at 3" using the velocity stroke...

[funkreiter]

@AjaxHammer6  you gotta play through the drum

[xDmcmeansxD]

Sickk

[BlueDevilsTowelBoy]

@optsyn well if they were tighter they would seem more crushed in my opinion.but your a better gridder then myself lol so ill leave anything to fixed up to you

[DCIdrumdude]

@BlueDevilsTowelBoy Nice.... I really like this one... Cool lighting too.

Don't hear any crushed in there... a few are a slightly wider than a mathematically perfect 24th note from what I hear, but that's only a few. I think what you consider "strict", many would say is "well defined", IMO.

If they didn't get rid of the star system, i'd give it 5 stars. But, you definitely get a Like out of me.

[BlueDevilsTowelBoy]

your diddles are a little crushed on the faster version and it seems your a little too strict when you play it slow

[optsyn]

@BlueDevilsTowelBoy Thanks for the observation.... however I'd argue that, if anything, the diddles are too open in the faster version.

[atomikfzr1]

@optsyn that's beautiful

[DaltonDrums]

-jizz-

[phatalvideo]

was that 2nd one spead up?

[optsyn]

@phatalvideo Nope, just played at a faster tempo.

[phatalvideo]

@optsyn wow! perfect technique fam. you really inspire me to keep my chops up. great vids. got a lot of work to do.

[atomikfzr1]

sex

[videogamebrvs1]

(Yoda) Some chops, you have.