Data's specifications (Star Trek: TNG)

[AliTubelog]

Overclock Data

[hagenar]

I don't think that bar was solid...

[Alan7997]

After that steel bending, it's Mr Data.... SIR!!!

[TheRadical42]

@Alan7997 Steel bending????? WOWEEE!!!! I never noticed that. Data is a long lost relation of Bender from Futurama!!!

[iqenigmax]

100.000 terabyte

[MultiPaulinator]

II'll take the 100 PB hard drive, but after 250 years, he can only do 60 TFLOPs. Soong compromised quite a bit on performance.

[CmdrTobs]

@MultiPaulinator Not sure, he did curiously state it was a *linear* rate... Suggesting that is the rate for one series of instructions. He could be able to do many tasks at that rate. In which case 60TFLOPs is absurdly fast.

[MultiPaulinator]

@CmdrTobs Good poin. I didn't catch that adjective the first time I watched it. If he's talking 60TFLOPs/PU -- whatever type of processing units they're imagining for the time -- then holy shit! It would also be nice to know how many cores he's packing at that rate, but we all know their writers never went that heavy into detail, and I'm not entirely sure if the supercomputers of the time this was written ran parallel.

[CmdrTobs]

@MultiPaulinator Yeah, the future probably has to be parallel. You could go down the 1 super fast processing unit road but the speed of light stops you after a few Ghz's at which point you must expand the bulk instructions processed (more pipes) but even that has diminishing returns until you must ultimately use entirely separate processing or 'cores'. So it's reasonable to assume data works in a similar way.

Brain studies points to limited single task ability but massive parallel ability

[TheRadical42]

Hm! I wonder how close our processing power and storage capicity is to Data these days? (2011)

[helgih580]

@kbwannabe yup, that's him alright. It's like he never got older.

[Knightphall]

I wish my HDD was as large as his brain.

[Charmolution]

How many USB ports?

[Trashboldus]

@Charmolution 1257008, but unfortunately they are placed poorly and therefore only 300810 can be used simultanuously

[warfjm]

But can he run Crysis?

[luizfcavalcanti]

@warfjm wow!

[TheDarloSaint]

Jesus! All that memory!?! If he can play mp3 songs ill take him!

[Nonsensei436]

I thought picards objections was perfectly reasonable. What a dumb judge.

[trlkly]

@Nonsensei436 It wasn't really an objection. She just wanted to see him do it. At the end of the trial, her verdict has little to do with the trial, and I've always suspected she'd already made up her mind from the beginning. Good thing she was on the right side.

[nazaxprime]

One of my favorite episodes. I think this signifies some of the best that Star trek represents.

Bravo.

[Floovf]

Is "megastrength" an official Federation term?

[TheREGISMarkV]

@Floovf if you have it, your in a class of your own.

[test123ok]

im sure by the 24th century they can squeeze in more in less area. but 60 teraflops is probably enough to achieve the kind of intelligence that data possess.

[aussj4link]

I could be wrong but it sounds like Data can apply 4,232,875.44 lbs of pressure. Look out Hulk!

[TheREGISMarkV]

@aussj4link look out hydraulic excavator! lol

[monkimajik]

60 Teraflops in 2360?! LOL! Should be more like 500 billion xeraflops.

[GallTheAbsurd]

@monkimajik Dr. Soong in a cave. With a box of scraps.

[tuseroni]

@monkimajik right, we have supercomputers today pushing 2.5 petaflops.

also to DracoXul 100petabytes isnt much...its a lot by todays standards (though the google cluster has storage in the terabytes and storage on the petabyte is getting cheaper. its now where terabyte storage was a decade ago.) we will have storage above that in a few decades.

[trlkly]

@tuseroni There's really no reason that Data has to be too advanced--just more advanced than a human. The real marvel is not his raw computational power, but that he so effectively emulates a human.

[mvminsurance240]

Man oh man back when this came out... They were probably like YEAH 800 QUAD SHOULD BE PLENTY... Now we are all laughing because we know that will be nothing in 10 to 20 years from now hahahaha....

[mvminsurance240]

@mvminsurance240 Actually tell me guys.. What would his actual hard drive look like in 2360? 800 quadrillion yottabytes? LOL...

[otherjr]

Look how white Data is. He was always going to win.

[wjfox2006]

Considering it's the 24th century, Data's storage capacity is laughable. These script writers obviously never heard of Moore's Law.

Google "exabyte storage devices are available" and look at the FutureTimeline site.

[Usul573]

@wjfox2006

Considering a 1GB drive would cost $40,000 in 1980, and that a 1TB drive cost about $60 now after about thirty years, and TNG takes place mostly in the 2360s......

[Anduie]

@wjfox2006 True, but how many people in the audience would realize that?

[kght222]

@wjfox2006 apparently you dont know that moore's law is finite, things only continue to get smaller down to the atomic scale in it, and we are already rapidly approaching that point (give it about 20-30 years to be sure) that doesn't mean that we wont figure out some way of going smaller, but anything smaller falls outside of moore's law.

[stubert311]

if they can fit all that hardware inside data's head (and presumable other parts of his body) then why does the enterprise computer suck so hard at being helpful? isn't it supposed to be huge?

[sweYoda2]

@stubert311 Ever considered that it might not be a hardware limitation but a software limitation? Perhaps the guy who built Data was a software genius?

[stubert311]

@sweYoda2

still, you'd assume that with such a huge machine, most of which probably still use the same fabrication process as data's components (i doubt processors can be replicated) that the enterprise would be able to win fights on it's own

i mean come on, ship battles aren't nearly as complex as chess, and we have machines that win at that now

[skaterjay0012]

he bent that shit like it was butta

[IIIXBlackxCatXIII]

@skaterjay0012 actually, butter doesn't bend unless it's warm. If you just got it out of the fridge, like a normal person, it would break in half, or simply melt from the warmth of your hands... Believe me, I know... I've tried to bend butter into one of those fishy symbols... it did both...

[nothinbuthax]

MEGA STRENGTH

[setoogali]

It is true that the specifications defined represent significant advances however one must consider that the reality of android development is upon us especially with the development of bi pedal robots notably Asimo. The computational capacity of Data demonstrates a wonderment of imagination and conceptualization of the evolution of technology, as he is able to complete with no requisite concerning thermodynamics. Besides the obvious flaw with the artificial gravity

Star Trek is wonderful

[IIIXBlackxCatXIII]

@setoogali asimo isnt as smexy as data, or i'd be all over it...

[hunoatila]

@mrtorressayshello yes and probably by that time 1024 yottabyte will still be a laughable amount

[kargaroc386]

data could run graphics that look like real life easily

[Renzeko]

His processor is rated at 60 teraflops. So, in comparison, his processor is equal to 24 ATI Radeon 5870s...

That's pathetic...

[progressivescan09]

@Renzeko

Probably why Picard isn't so afraid to lose him...

He can just be replaced, perhaps...

[JasonvonEvil83]

The episode came out in 1989, computers weren't exactly blazing fast back then.

[Renzeko]

Well yeah, but they could have exaggerated the potential of processor capacity almost 400 years in the future from that time... And I mean, exaggerated greattlyyyy haha

[JasonvonEvil83]

True, but keep in mind that to people watching, 30 trillion operations a second sounds really fast. If that episode were done today, then yeah, he's speed would be insane.

Also, his operating system would be Linux.

[stubert311]

they don't say what sort of operation, the op on modern equipment is some variation of add or copy. i think data's basic ops are probably a bit more sophisticated

[Gnomleif]

And how much space would 24 Radeon 5870 take up compared to Data's positronic brain, which is placed inside his skull?

Not to mention cooling and power requirements...

[Usul573]

Here's another change that'll bake your noodle.

In 1980, a 550 pound hard drive that cost about $40,000 in 1980 dollars was 1 GB and was the first of it's kind.

Now we have 2 TB drives that are $180 and are small.

That's 30 years.

This is in the 2360s.

[mephistodood82]

@Gnomleif well, keep in mind, u don't need the entire card, u can simply have a 24core CPU, we're up to 8 on our desktop CPU's now...wouldn't be very big at all

[Usul573]

Uh oh, graphics cards are going to exceed Data's brain.

If you don't believe me think about what graphics cards were like in 1994.

[hunoatila]

@Renzeko

That's the components in series or in parallel or both? because is not the same capacity in series that in parallel in series thats a lot of teraflops 60 to process a lot of data and in parallel because of the speed, and if both that will make a hell of a processor

[Neropoo]

What is the hearing about?

[JasonvonEvil83]

Basically this scientist named Maddox (guy in the blue uniform) wanted to dismantle Data and figure out how to build more, which Data objected to because he felt that Maddox would screw up and destroy him by accident. He tried to resign, couldn't because they said he was nothing but a machine and the hearing was to resolve whether he was a sentient being.

[sbmrunning]

although the scene is cut here, when riker taps data on his back to deactivate him........and riker knew he did something that really could destroy data's future in star fleet, i shed tears at this moment.

[Vynjira]

40 kilobars? Nice, thats 4 billion pascals or 258 tons/inch²

In perspective to the world of fiction;

Thing(Fantastic 4) can lift 90 tons.

[trysill]

or data v. a cylon

[pittland44]

Data should have fed Maddox through a wood chipper, like in fargo.

[ToasterPig]

there are many species with MEGA STRENGTH!!!

[JasonvonEvil83]

Like Vulcans. In "Amok Time" Spock flattened a desktop computer (interesting considering they didn't exist irl for another decade) with one fist. Granted, he was horny at the time...

[wareneik]

following this pattern

2050=500TB is a lot

2100 = 2000TB is a lot

2200 =100.000TB is a lor FOR HOME USERS???

in a sofisticated investigation android?

is not to much!

but forget them... they never think in the EXPONENCIAL technology advance.

[DracoXul]

A quadrillion 1,000,000,000,000,000

There are 8 bits to 1 byte.

A quadrillion bits (based on 1000 and not 1024) is 125TB

800 quadrillion bits = 100000TB

That's a big hard drive.

[TheRadical42]

@DracoXul Thanks for the math! I've always wondered that. Who knew we'd have cheap 1 TB backup external drives already. Still, I've seen Powers of Ten and adding a zero does LOTS.

[Phelan666]

@DracoXul Data must be the first computer capable of running Crysis on high.

[Usul573]

@Phelan666

Nope, still can't quite handle 8xAA at 2560x1600

[kimvlaar]

@DracoXul 1024 bits is usually only used in telecom, 1000 is used in IT.

[noslenmars]

@DracoXul 90 949,4702 TB aprox (90 950 TB)

[aparker22418]

This is my favorite episode of TNG.

[xXxMissHollyShortxXx]

in witch season data "experiments" with tasha? I don't remamber.

[ShockwaveX9]

Season one, episode "The Naked Now"

[oneproofwonder]

Season 1 episode: 'The Naked Now'

[minski76]

tasha only shows up in season 1 (execpt for guest appearances).

her - encounter with data is right in epside 3, "the naked now", when a virus makes the crew behave like drunk... including tasha giving in to her - libido and seducing data.

[jaydelanyack]

88.817842 terabytes? 60 teraflops?

[sparks12001]

ahem, 88 PETABYTES, and 60 teraflops.

[quikgamer]

Data is awesome. He cold run a thousand of today most demading games easily.

[jagdeeptube]

hahaha, said like a true gamer.

[Grykus7]

Have you seen that guy on a keyboard. I dream of being an android. The abiltiy to type like that would allow me to dominate the known gaming world. xD I don't even like Guitar Hero. But if I could FC any song you throw at me, it would be more... "stimulating".

[Usul573]

Apparently he's about as powerful as 12 copies of the most powerful graphics card out today.

So maybe not.....

[quikgamer]

@Usul573

We're not even close to making a Data, so the graphics card and hard drive comparison is pointless. Data is based on technology that isn't even here yet.

[Usul573]

Still it's interesting.

I don't know, if we're still around and everything by the age of Star Trek we'll have some technology that exceeds it, by a LOT

I guess Data's brain is more densely packed and complex than anything we're close to, at least for now.

[DeltaQ1008]

In one of the first episodes he stated that he was anatomically correct and then he slept with Tasha Yar (The Naked Now): I doubt he's gender neutral...

[EdRoyAlWin]

That's not exactly what he meant. Data's mind is gender neutral, not his body.

[hoppers001]

I would want Data as my computer. :)

[blagger56]

@hoppers001 Yeah, but don't install the Windows OS for fuck's sake...LOL

[msinvincible2000]

@hoppers001 I wouldn't want Data as my computer. I would want him as my husband, my best friend, my bodyguard...

[yoshemitzu47]

800 quadrillion bits = 88.817842 petabytes, type it into your google search bar, it'll convert almost any unit of measurement into another one for you (if it can be done). MORE than enough data storage for an entire lifetime of memory for Data, although he may live many more lifetimes than most humans (zomg NEMESIS SPOILER)

[wagnerologist1984]

One of my favourate episodes, the scene with picard and Guinen in ten forward was very poignant. Does Data have a soul?.. Do any of us have a soul? Who knows.. Whats important is where given the right to live free lifes and explore these questions, and so does Data.

[LogicBinary]

Inncorrect, 800 quadrillion Bits are 100 quadrillion Bytes. And The total capacity in Bytes would be 100 Petabytes. So by mistake amrj700 missed with 1 of 1000 to go. That should be more than enough since Data maintains his storage capacity. 1 Petabyte is considered a lifetime of mess of files of 1 user.

[Alimistar]

1 byte may equal 8 bits, but that doesn't pan out to 800 quadrillion bits. For instance 1 kilobyte many think contains 8000 bits, it actually containts 8192 bits.

[amrj700]

800 000 000 000 000 bits is only 93 Terabytes (93,132 Gigabytes)

Probably seemed a lot in 1990!

[Soulsphere001]

You missed three zeros there.

[celticsaga]

why was riker and picard are on opposing sides?

[JNilsson1976]

Riker was forced against his will to prosecute data or judge Louvois would have ruled againts data whitout a trial at all.

the best sceen is at the very end off the episode.

im gonna post a video containing the entire rikers prosecution and datas talk to riker at the end

[MyOwnCreationProduct]

Can you just post the whole episiod?

[aribenzane]

The positronic pimp!

[senunsaintntmd]

i dont get it what was the bending steel part about?

[knightryderrwn]

To show his super (mega) strength.

[quietearthMT]

The judge overruled Picard because she just wanted to see Data bend the bar!

[MyOwnCreationProduct]

You know, that bar looks rather like a peice of syrofoam.......

[Dani1165]

lol, and all the other graphics/scenery in this show looks real?

[MyOwnCreationProduct]

To show his inhuman strength. No human could bend a bar like that.

[CL1TMAN]

@MyOwnCreationProduct I'm pretty sure you wanted to say megastrenght, haven't you?

[metalsjustice]

data is a buff stud!

[reneen1018]

hell yes

[svillethomas]

Ya.. sounds like my computer... not

[reneen1018]

Oh Data, I love you!

[pryorj2011]

Stuff Riker, yay Data!

[reneen1018]

Data is the man.

[pryorj2011]

Totally!

[MyOwnCreationProduct]

That's just it, Data IS a man.. What is a man? Who is to define that? Who has a right to say if Data is man or andriod, other then himself?

[reneen1018]

Well said.

[Kakerot4141]

well, as The Dude in 'The Big Lebowski' put it:

'a pair of testacles'

just saying, that is what makes a man a MAN.

[MyOwnCreationProduct]

If you saw the "Naked Now" episiod you'd know my answer to that too..... Data is "fully functional"

[McCaler]

I'm sure you don't want to know what I have to say about it.

[MyOwnCreationProduct]

I don't think we need to hear it, it's rather easy to fill in the blanks

[McCaler]

Than you can safely infer of what I'm conveying.

[P3FOYFN]

There's an episode where Data says that he's actually gender neutral, and that he only looks male. I think it's the one where they go to the planet where the females are dominant.

He's still a person though.

[MyOwnCreationProduct]

Yes i remember that, but the fact remains, Data is a man and entitled to rights! (Pardon my bad spelling)