expression do carry some weight here but the bulk of the marks goes to pitching while in harmony, musicianship as well as intonation and diction. All the rest are just pure gimmicks.
honestly even after more than a year, i get disappointed listening to this.. =( What did the winners do that can beat us??? sure we made mistakes, but what's so good abt the winners? =(
Lawls not so good. the starting broken chord scared me, needless to say the middle part. Why the girls pulling their skirts? Lol look so unpro to me :(
exactly...ur not in the choir so how would you know they didn't give their best? like you like to point out, it's filled with mistakes, but they gave their best. don't assume pls and tq
This choir did not try their very best that day, and there's a lot, A LOT of room for improvement. What happened to the choir I knew back in 04 and 03? That one gave me goosebumps. I believe that u guys can do better than this. Gotta work on intonation people, serious problems there.
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It's true that it's not the same as back then, but they gave their best that day ok. It's rude to suggest they did not try their best...my choir teacher has done the best that she could with the ppl she had so pls just back off. She knows what to do.
Well, it is just my point of view, no need to get so agitated 0.0.. I'm not in this choir, so how would I know right? So how would I know if they really did their best that day? Therefore I don't think it is rude to say that they did not try their best, but since you say so..
aiyo.. stop e drama ppl.. :) lets work together to improve the music scene in malaysia.. trust me, its still VERY VERY super shallow over here.. haha.. hmm.. to those choir lovers, check out this choir: Dythrambic Choir... they are malaysians, classical genre, under the training of Mr Ian Lim, very renown vocal coach.. they are EXCEPTIONAL! but classical genre la.. :) very serious music..
All in all, the choir is good and with potential (I think most are new, no?). However, there are many places which can be corrected (hopefully parakitos can do that?). I am sorry if I'm/was being harsh on the choir but I hope you guys can improve next year =) Let's show Malaysia that Sarawak's choirs rocks! Good luck
Also, the arrangement used lots of maj7 chords (if my ears serve me well) which acts as double-edged swords. However, I do not like how the SA came in on the second beat to harmonize the men. It throws off the rhythm since it's an a capella. Also, a clear picture of intonation problem is when you start noticing that "Malaysia nusaku tercinta" ends in Eb major when the song never went through any modulations...
n to e others who hav been critisizing this choir, pls bear in mind it is nvr easy to train a good choir.. and THIS my friends, is a GOOD choir.. very potential.. if any of u is not satisfied with their performance, well help them improve.. train them if u think ur capable of doing so.. sorry im in kl.. if not i'd love to come listen to u live.. :)
keep ur chin up smkbl.. im looking fwd to see more of u.. :) cheers...
music is not meant to cause division.. but it is to unite all as one..
You're pro, my dear, not only in training your own choir, I suppose. Also, you know when to say what is supposed to be said and what is not supposed to. I mean, from what I see, you are the only one speaking for music in a good manner. Salute! There's a really huge difference between a trainer and an onlooker. I'd love to learn from you someday, if I had the chance to.
well im a music lover.. n i want to help others love music as much as i do, NOT put em down n make em feel bad about themselves.. thats just, wrong..
my girls are very important to me.. as much as im hard on em, each n everyone of em knw i love em very very much.. we've been through a lot.. they were the laughing stock among KL choirs u knw but nw, they r slowly improving n gettin better.. flaws, they definitely have.. no one is perfect but as long as they try, its enough 2me :)
so guys well done on e voice, it takes time to develop nice tone so dun fret k, u have lots of potential :)
ur a cappella's arrangement was really very impressive. thumbs up to ur arranger :) with ur choir's tonal attributes, a cappella is definitely one of ur best choices. however, during the middle n towards e ending of e song, there were a few pitching problems, which, can be curbed by practice. give it another year of thorough training, u'll get there definitely.. :)
hello.. :) ok.. im a trainer.. my own choir has its flaws too.. but allow me to say something here k.. :) dun worry.. i dun put ppl down..
first of all, i'd like to compliment your tonal quality. very nice and warm. it takes LOTS of training to get to this point i'm sure. u kids worked ur butts off right? i could tell. very very nice :D but guys, u need to learn to compliment e girls cos sometimes u sound a bit harsh but most of e time, very very strong support for e whole performance.
My most favourite BM choir song......it was the most beautiful song of all and very nice arrangements...i give an A for that but.......a fair try. "Mayb the CLOTHES were a little too big for the PERSON." The starting was already out until the end. So obvious that the first note that sang out was different from the first key. Was i deaf??? If wrong pls do say.
The first note IS correct. It's the fourth note which started having pitching problems.... Besides, giving a D maj add9 (or D2 if you will) Chord on the first chord with an F# bass isn't totally sound... The chord sounded dissonant (I think due to improper harmonization. Top notes a bit sharp)
Btw, according to my humble ears, the chord consists of A,F#,F#,D,E no? The second chord consists of G,E,C#,A,G (I think it should be this, the A7 chord, but it was out on the high G)
Without even looking at the "professionalism" part, there is already a lot of problems with the singing. The Eng song is quite good, except for a terrible part at 6.03 and also slightly off at the ending. The BM song is quite bad, intonation out. This seems to be a far cry to the BL choir I heard years back.
=.=.. like what Enchantrelamemorie said, Grow UP tanama! Does one have to have perfect english to be qualified to give a comment on youtube? Choir competition is about singing AND professionalism. And the judges WILL BE distracted when the girls are pulling their skirts and so on, does that make the judges perverts too? Does one have to be as famous as Chris Brown to be a pro singer? STPM top-scorer, markwong, is giving constructive comments for God's sake.. why does it even bother you? geez..
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STPM top-scorer? so..? Is that really something great? there are many of these students in the whole country... should we spend 365 days celebrating their achievement? gosh, we might not have enough days for a year... please kindly refer to another comment i replied to EllisRoad, i mean, if you have the time... =.=
Well, did I say that it is something that great? Need celebration? I'm just pointing out that just to let you know that someone better than you is giving constructive comments with good intentions, and you are actually criticizing him.
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u just agreed blindly? =.= how well can that guy sing, then? if he were to be a pro singer, now why couldn't i see him performing in tv? why couldn't he be as famous as Chris Brown... oh man, do ask him to improve his english proficiency before posting his comments...
hey, freedom of speech. If i want to agree, I'll agree. doesn't have anything to do with you. Well, you don't have to be a good singer to give comments. Is Simon Cowell a good singer??
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let's put a stop to this by looking at this:
great mind talks about ideas,
average mind talks about events,
LITTLE mind talks about people.
comments are meant to make them improve, unless you would want to be the second Paul Moss, if not, why talk like you are? at least... give them some tips on how to sing better, and not criticizing them like hell... it makes the world more peaceful, doesn't it? by the way, have you listened to St Teresa's and Green Road's singing?
you said it, "..and not criticizing them like hell.."
but you also said
"great mind talks about ideas,
average mind talks about events,
LITTLE mind talks about people."
isn't that criticizing other people? so define how does that makes the world more peaceful when people like you don't grow up and continue to act like little brats?
you have to learn to accept anybodies opinion/point of view. if it's correct, take it and learn, if it's wrong, simply just ignore it.
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oh well, i'm just telling u all, to comment is to make them improve, actually, what's your motive of posting comments here? to make them improve..? or to show off how good you are at pointing others' mistakes? (no offence)
there was once question asked by a teacher to the students after she had drawn a circle on the blackboard.. "fellow students, what can you see?" all the students answered her, 'A CIRCLE..!!" the teacher was shocked, she asked, "didn't you all see there's a big blackboard?"
Green Road's is way better (though with its blemishes too) but I don't like St. Tre's. If you would have bother even listening to the others, you would have read our comments there. As such, you didn't so I should be the one asking you "have you listened to St. Teresa's and Green Road's singing" (through recording and not live. We all know the recording is where we find the most flaws)
I am disappointed at BL choir. It used to be held in high esteem 5 years back. Compare the BL choir of 2004 to this one... That's really quite a gap. Dont try acapella if you can't, the intonation is totally out for the BM song. And what was that fugue part??? The men can't get the first subject in tune (Eb for tumpuan)... too flat and the counter subject arrangement remains dubious... BI song is okay except the sopranos go out at the top notes... And why got girls pulling skirt? Eyes wandering.
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oh boy... it's supposed to be "disappointed IN"... do some more english grammar exercise... i'd say it's preposition if you do not know which category u should improve... choir competition is all about singing, that's the part everyone would notice... n now, PERVERT, what has it got to do with you when the girls are pulling their skirt? where are your eyes focussed on? this is embarrassing, wait, i mean u... not the girls...
Choir competition IS about professionalism. Unfortunately you can see a lot of distracting motions which affect the marking (this includes hand tapping, sideways glancing, AND skirt pulling). Does one need to appear on tv to be qualified to give a comment? And I am not taking grammar lessons from people who can't even bother to write "you" or add a plural to "exercise"
I would appreciate it if you do not attack other users that are actually giving constructive criticism. You either take it or leave it or even justify why the other person is wrong. Dont go personally attacking someone, it only makes you seem like a little kid with a whole lot of growing up to do.
expression do carry some weight here but the bulk of the marks goes to pitching while in harmony, musicianship as well as intonation and diction. All the rest are just pure gimmicks.
maxwellsim76 7 months ago
honestly even after more than a year, i get disappointed listening to this.. =( What did the winners do that can beat us??? sure we made mistakes, but what's so good abt the winners? =(
92yanny29 1 year ago
yeap~~ it's your expression..expression carries a lot of marks
nevermind...still have next time ^^
Gambateh!! Trust yourself that you can do it
feilhai 2 years ago
anyone has names of this choir members?
benzackry 2 years ago
fook wei. we're all pieces of wood. expression FAIL!
susanlhz 2 years ago
err, the singing was a bit terrible. someone wasn't singing O.O. i like 03 and 04's team though :D
julianryanlau93 2 years ago
the two songs are my favorite especially the english song..6.03 is slightly off and it is very obvious..good song though..go batu lintang!
ashleytang93 2 years ago
Great great great! Nice nicey nice nice! Good luck IN KL!!!
marcarrietharden 2 years ago
LOL... I thought some of the 2007 graduates went back just to sing for the choir. It's cool yet weird to see the siblings looking so alike.
atomalbert 2 years ago
Ahh I was shaking when I went up there
reening 2 years ago
The video quality is great! Thanks for uploading this videoooo
Denedy 2 years ago
nice dress :D
cant hear the lyrics properly though :(
SomeOne1199 2 years ago
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Effandi93 2 years ago 2
link please :)
SomeOne1199 2 years ago
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Effandi93 2 years ago
These are just few of my comments:
BM song is bad, with most of the intonations are totally out. and what's up with the broken chords?
BI song is average. 6:02 is just terrible. Sopranos need to work on high notes.
Thats all from me. feel free to correct me if i'm wrong.
roccoj8z 2 years ago 2
Agree with you ;)
GoofSebastian 2 years ago
Aye.
reening 2 years ago
Lawls not so good. the starting broken chord scared me, needless to say the middle part. Why the girls pulling their skirts? Lol look so unpro to me :(
Effandi93 2 years ago 5
haha. yup. I'm through with this too. kthxbai
jteokc 2 years ago
exactly...ur not in the choir so how would you know they didn't give their best? like you like to point out, it's filled with mistakes, but they gave their best. don't assume pls and tq
jteokc 2 years ago
wtver u say boss ;)
GoofSebastian 2 years ago 5
hey u stole my line lol
MrBlakey53 2 years ago 2
like what goofsebastian said, there is a lot of room for improvement, especially intonation
MrBlakey53 2 years ago 7
Far cry from past choirs..tsk tsk tsk
enabananas 2 years ago 4
Well, i have to agree with markwongsk, parakitos, GoofSebastian, sandslash93, ting2teo and Lochlyn3355. Intonation..
crazeyFinn 2 years ago 6
This choir did not try their very best that day, and there's a lot, A LOT of room for improvement. What happened to the choir I knew back in 04 and 03? That one gave me goosebumps. I believe that u guys can do better than this. Gotta work on intonation people, serious problems there.
GoofSebastian 2 years ago 8
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It's true that it's not the same as back then, but they gave their best that day ok. It's rude to suggest they did not try their best...my choir teacher has done the best that she could with the ppl she had so pls just back off. She knows what to do.
Enough?
jteokc 2 years ago
Well, it is just my point of view, no need to get so agitated 0.0.. I'm not in this choir, so how would I know right? So how would I know if they really did their best that day? Therefore I don't think it is rude to say that they did not try their best, but since you say so..
GoofSebastian 2 years ago 5
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jteokc 2 years ago
Yeah, wateva you say jteokc ;)
MrBlakey53 2 years ago 4
good......^^
miss choir club a lot...
lein93 2 years ago
aiyo.. stop e drama ppl.. :) lets work together to improve the music scene in malaysia.. trust me, its still VERY VERY super shallow over here.. haha.. hmm.. to those choir lovers, check out this choir: Dythrambic Choir... they are malaysians, classical genre, under the training of Mr Ian Lim, very renown vocal coach.. they are EXCEPTIONAL! but classical genre la.. :) very serious music..
parakitos 2 years ago
yeah yeah...Lose to learn,win to be humble...we're doing our part.xD
MsRikimaru 2 years ago
okie dokie..
Just remember, lose with love people..lose gracefully..because accusations get u nowhere
enabananas 2 years ago
yeah.ena...bl is innocent.i like qibai..xD
MsRikimaru 2 years ago
herro
just spreading the BL love.. ahh <33
bunifabitch 2 years ago
they sing really really good!! st.teresa's one is really good too. =)
Qibai 2 years ago
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enabananas 2 years ago
hey ena, you dont have to insult them back. just being polite here. it's really okay. dont express your anger here.
valyian 2 years ago
All in all, the choir is good and with potential (I think most are new, no?). However, there are many places which can be corrected (hopefully parakitos can do that?). I am sorry if I'm/was being harsh on the choir but I hope you guys can improve next year =) Let's show Malaysia that Sarawak's choirs rocks! Good luck
markwongsk 2 years ago 6
u go mark! :D
see now THIS is what we call constructive comments... haha i cant go sarawak mark.. havent even been there before.. sad i knw.. LOL!..
are u perfect pitch? sounds like u are.. working/studying?
parakitos 2 years ago 2
Also, the arrangement used lots of maj7 chords (if my ears serve me well) which acts as double-edged swords. However, I do not like how the SA came in on the second beat to harmonize the men. It throws off the rhythm since it's an a capella. Also, a clear picture of intonation problem is when you start noticing that "Malaysia nusaku tercinta" ends in Eb major when the song never went through any modulations...
markwongsk 2 years ago 7
n to e others who hav been critisizing this choir, pls bear in mind it is nvr easy to train a good choir.. and THIS my friends, is a GOOD choir.. very potential.. if any of u is not satisfied with their performance, well help them improve.. train them if u think ur capable of doing so.. sorry im in kl.. if not i'd love to come listen to u live.. :)
keep ur chin up smkbl.. im looking fwd to see more of u.. :) cheers...
music is not meant to cause division.. but it is to unite all as one..
parakitos 2 years ago 2
You're pro, my dear, not only in training your own choir, I suppose. Also, you know when to say what is supposed to be said and what is not supposed to. I mean, from what I see, you are the only one speaking for music in a good manner. Salute! There's a really huge difference between a trainer and an onlooker. I'd love to learn from you someday, if I had the chance to.
ce8rGQ 2 years ago
hey ce8rGQ... :)
well im a music lover.. n i want to help others love music as much as i do, NOT put em down n make em feel bad about themselves.. thats just, wrong..
my girls are very important to me.. as much as im hard on em, each n everyone of em knw i love em very very much.. we've been through a lot.. they were the laughing stock among KL choirs u knw but nw, they r slowly improving n gettin better.. flaws, they definitely have.. no one is perfect but as long as they try, its enough 2me :)
parakitos 2 years ago
they'll be headin for the choral eistedfodd at smk seafield on the 3oth of May. You can catch em there = D
jteokc 2 years ago
jteokc.. oh wow! thx for telling me that.. i'll get my girls to go watch as well.. :DD
parakitos 2 years ago
ok continued:
so guys well done on e voice, it takes time to develop nice tone so dun fret k, u have lots of potential :)
ur a cappella's arrangement was really very impressive. thumbs up to ur arranger :) with ur choir's tonal attributes, a cappella is definitely one of ur best choices. however, during the middle n towards e ending of e song, there were a few pitching problems, which, can be curbed by practice. give it another year of thorough training, u'll get there definitely.. :)
parakitos 2 years ago
hello.. :) ok.. im a trainer.. my own choir has its flaws too.. but allow me to say something here k.. :) dun worry.. i dun put ppl down..
first of all, i'd like to compliment your tonal quality. very nice and warm. it takes LOTS of training to get to this point i'm sure. u kids worked ur butts off right? i could tell. very very nice :D but guys, u need to learn to compliment e girls cos sometimes u sound a bit harsh but most of e time, very very strong support for e whole performance.
parakitos 2 years ago
sorry dear.. i meant fifth note of e chord that was played.. :D
parakitos 2 years ago
My most favourite BM choir song......it was the most beautiful song of all and very nice arrangements...i give an A for that but.......a fair try. "Mayb the CLOTHES were a little too big for the PERSON." The starting was already out until the end. So obvious that the first note that sang out was different from the first key. Was i deaf??? If wrong pls do say.
*JuSt my piece of comment and my point of view.
GenSanaka 2 years ago 4
their first note is correct. fifth note of the arpeggio that was played.. :) very nice harmony at the intro.. very nice chords..
parakitos 2 years ago
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sandslash93 2 years ago
The first note IS correct. It's the fourth note which started having pitching problems.... Besides, giving a D maj add9 (or D2 if you will) Chord on the first chord with an F# bass isn't totally sound... The chord sounded dissonant (I think due to improper harmonization. Top notes a bit sharp)
Btw, according to my humble ears, the chord consists of A,F#,F#,D,E no? The second chord consists of G,E,C#,A,G (I think it should be this, the A7 chord, but it was out on the high G)
markwongsk 2 years ago 5
hey, you sound more like a gentlemen. I like your way of giving comments. :P
ce8rGQ 2 years ago
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jteokc 2 years ago
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jteokc 2 years ago
ya right!!and i wonder what happened to the results of competition.....@@
that's terrible!!!
ting2teo 2 years ago
inelegant exit of the conductor
MultiShe 2 years ago 10
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it is always easy to comment than do it ur own...
so, don say it too harsh...
maybe u only know how to comment, why don u do it or own?
see how good u r....
Renelyn1891 2 years ago
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those giving poor rating to u are the ones who do not dare to try it on their own... =.=
tamama92 2 years ago
Without even looking at the "professionalism" part, there is already a lot of problems with the singing. The Eng song is quite good, except for a terrible part at 6.03 and also slightly off at the ending. The BM song is quite bad, intonation out. This seems to be a far cry to the BL choir I heard years back.
sandslash93 2 years ago 10
i agree!! the eng song is quite nice.. but the bm song, the pitches are all messy..
Yucie13 2 years ago
=.=.. like what Enchantrelamemorie said, Grow UP tanama! Does one have to have perfect english to be qualified to give a comment on youtube? Choir competition is about singing AND professionalism. And the judges WILL BE distracted when the girls are pulling their skirts and so on, does that make the judges perverts too? Does one have to be as famous as Chris Brown to be a pro singer? STPM top-scorer, markwong, is giving constructive comments for God's sake.. why does it even bother you? geez..
GoofSebastian 2 years ago 18
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STPM top-scorer? so..? Is that really something great? there are many of these students in the whole country... should we spend 365 days celebrating their achievement? gosh, we might not have enough days for a year... please kindly refer to another comment i replied to EllisRoad, i mean, if you have the time... =.=
tamama92 2 years ago
Well, did I say that it is something that great? Need celebration? I'm just pointing out that just to let you know that someone better than you is giving constructive comments with good intentions, and you are actually criticizing him.
GoofSebastian 2 years ago 8
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tamama92 if you're so pro can't you catch what's the problems with this clip?
even weak singers can pick many problems out from the clip...@@"'
the starting pitches are in a mess already!!
ting2teo 2 years ago
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ting2teo 2 years ago
no bad!!
yenSHING92 2 years ago
Exactly...
EllisRoad 2 years ago 4
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u just agreed blindly? =.= how well can that guy sing, then? if he were to be a pro singer, now why couldn't i see him performing in tv? why couldn't he be as famous as Chris Brown... oh man, do ask him to improve his english proficiency before posting his comments...
tamama92 2 years ago
hey, freedom of speech. If i want to agree, I'll agree. doesn't have anything to do with you. Well, you don't have to be a good singer to give comments. Is Simon Cowell a good singer??
EllisRoad 2 years ago 12
good point
GoofSebastian 2 years ago 13
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let's put a stop to this by looking at this:
great mind talks about ideas,
average mind talks about events,
LITTLE mind talks about people.
comments are meant to make them improve, unless you would want to be the second Paul Moss, if not, why talk like you are? at least... give them some tips on how to sing better, and not criticizing them like hell... it makes the world more peaceful, doesn't it? by the way, have you listened to St Teresa's and Green Road's singing?
tamama92 2 years ago
"LITTLE mind talks about people."
ohh...am i blind or what?
i saw someone criticize others' english too....
ting2teo 2 years ago 4
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this is what we call REACTION... for every action, there's an equal reaction...
tamama92 2 years ago
you said it, "..and not criticizing them like hell.."
but you also said
"great mind talks about ideas,
average mind talks about events,
LITTLE mind talks about people."
isn't that criticizing other people? so define how does that makes the world more peaceful when people like you don't grow up and continue to act like little brats?
you have to learn to accept anybodies opinion/point of view. if it's correct, take it and learn, if it's wrong, simply just ignore it.
so, grow up, would you?
theyunghung 2 years ago 9
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oh well, i'm just telling u all, to comment is to make them improve, actually, what's your motive of posting comments here? to make them improve..? or to show off how good you are at pointing others' mistakes? (no offence)
there was once question asked by a teacher to the students after she had drawn a circle on the blackboard.. "fellow students, what can you see?" all the students answered her, 'A CIRCLE..!!" the teacher was shocked, she asked, "didn't you all see there's a big blackboard?"
tamama92 2 years ago
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ting2teo 2 years ago
oh i say....i think you need introspection before saying these....
ting2teo 2 years ago
Green Road's is way better (though with its blemishes too) but I don't like St. Tre's. If you would have bother even listening to the others, you would have read our comments there. As such, you didn't so I should be the one asking you "have you listened to St. Teresa's and Green Road's singing" (through recording and not live. We all know the recording is where we find the most flaws)
markwongsk 2 years ago 13
which sch choir were you from?
tamama92 2 years ago
Hmm... I wonder who is the one actually doing the criticizing....
EllisRoad 2 years ago
I am disappointed at BL choir. It used to be held in high esteem 5 years back. Compare the BL choir of 2004 to this one... That's really quite a gap. Dont try acapella if you can't, the intonation is totally out for the BM song. And what was that fugue part??? The men can't get the first subject in tune (Eb for tumpuan)... too flat and the counter subject arrangement remains dubious... BI song is okay except the sopranos go out at the top notes... And why got girls pulling skirt? Eyes wandering.
markwongsk 2 years ago 15
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oh boy... it's supposed to be "disappointed IN"... do some more english grammar exercise... i'd say it's preposition if you do not know which category u should improve... choir competition is all about singing, that's the part everyone would notice... n now, PERVERT, what has it got to do with you when the girls are pulling their skirt? where are your eyes focussed on? this is embarrassing, wait, i mean u... not the girls...
tamama92 2 years ago
Choir competition IS about professionalism. Unfortunately you can see a lot of distracting motions which affect the marking (this includes hand tapping, sideways glancing, AND skirt pulling). Does one need to appear on tv to be qualified to give a comment? And I am not taking grammar lessons from people who can't even bother to write "you" or add a plural to "exercise"
markwongsk 2 years ago 19
I would appreciate it if you do not attack other users that are actually giving constructive criticism. You either take it or leave it or even justify why the other person is wrong. Dont go personally attacking someone, it only makes you seem like a little kid with a whole lot of growing up to do.
Enchantrelamemorie 2 years ago
nice one~~
angelic0326 2 years ago
GO BATU LINTANG GO!!!!!
cattwing 2 years ago