HA hA HA HA!!! @AboutDogTraining3 is here too... he stalks every cesar millan vid... good work, why dont you devote you time to "dog Whispering?" Hehehe
Omg stop the negative comments about Cesar. He is doing a great job. He learns you to be the pack leader.. did you ever seen an alpha being like.. ' no stop, you can't do that.'
@Goldwolfin666 , your dogs are not a pack. No more than a group of 9 guys is a baseball team. It's just a group of dogs and the operational definition of a pack is not met.
@AboutDogTraining3 Tell that to the "group" of dogs in town that were hunting down and killing small dogs and cats. That sounds like pack behavior, to me.
@LukaTisus, you are mistaken. Those were individual dogs that were not acting in unison. So you are screwed up again, there is no evidence to support your assertion.
@AboutDogTraining3 Yeah, ok. I didn't know a group of dogs traveling around together and attacking one single animal was unison behavior. Forgive me for my unforgiveable ignorance, oh mighty dog-expert.
I will no longer feed your need to troll. I know what I saw, perhaps you should do a bit more research of your own to support your own flawed assumptions. The evidence is there, you just refuse to see it.
@LukaTisus , that right they are not a pack by any operational definition. They are a group of dogs. 6 guys are also not a hockey team. Your ignorance would be tolerable if you were trying. Instead you prefer to cling to these myths. You are the worst kind of troll. What you see is socially facilitated behavior, not a pack. See, idiot, all that ejumacation can be put to use.
@AboutDogTraining3 No, but they are a pack by social and literal definition, as it's the term used toward a group of canines. And who's the troll, here? Really? Need I hunt down the definition of that as well? Because I cling to no myth. I've grown up around dogs my entire life, YOU on the other hand, seem insistent to cling to this silly belief that dogs have been too 'domesticated' to be associated with wolves. Take your head out of your ass. :)
@LukaTisus If you dilute the word so that it becomes operationally meaningless, then you might as well say they are a bloushgznark. However, intelligent people use the word 'pack'to mean something very specific and that means they are not a pack. You persist on using outdated terms and due to your idiotic behavior refuse to acknowledge modern findings. In short you are a fucking moron. Read up on Coppinger, Ciucci, Boitani, Miklosi, Kubiny. You simply don't know what you are talking about
Cesar is cool, but it's too bad he feeds poison like Iams to his dogs. You'd think all the research, and knowledge of dogs he has, he'd look into better food.
It may all sound great, but real animal behaviorists, trainers and researchers look at Cesar and want to cry. Even the stuff he does that works doesn't work for the reasons that Cesar thinks, and half the time Cesar doesn't even notice what's really going on with the dog. Check out the episode where Cesar chokes the husky until it collapses, and then points to the dog's baculum as proof that the dog was trying to dominate him. When a male dog is in pain, his baculum (penis bone) sticks out.
A consortium of 26 animal welfare organisations including the RSPCA, the Australian Veterinary Association, the Kennel Club and the British Veterinary Association, has written an open letter warning that Millan’s methods will lead to “pain and fear”, and are “not only unacceptable from a welfare perspective, but not necessary for the modification of dog behaviour”.
I bet the people that say cesars ways are harsh are the same people that giver their kids time out for discipline just to have them go shoot up their school.... cesar is doing nothing that the dominant male or female would do in the wild. Its like with my dog he loves to play with me and we have fun but when i say enough he stops.
I hate when some people say he uses fear among other things to help these dogs. He clearly isnt. I've used these methods in the past way before I discovered Cesar and they work brilliantly.
I've noticed how Cesar has been criticized, (even when he gets results with dogs nobody can help), and I realized it's because of his Mexican background. If this guy was white, how many people would call him names?
@wholelover Oh cmon now Im white and I like Ceasar and even if he was white people would still be criticizing him because there are trolls everywhere on youtube! thats just a racist and ridiculous comment - I dont think its necessary to inject the race issue into this lets enjoy the dogs and see what Ceasar can do
@wholelover not sure thats true,im white english and think Cesar is a legend if i didnt like the way he got results it wouldnt be because the colour of his skin ???
@wholelover you said white not american ? and if thats the case in america its very sad and dumb, people criticizing Cesar's dog handling on the colour of his skin, btw im from England.
I see it the other way around. The reason Cesar is so popular is because of his charismatic tv personality. In fact, he could be teaching people about cooking and he'd be just as popular.
@wholelover People who don't understand the psychology of animals will beat down anybody who has an approach other than their own. Cesar gets results in a fashion that many don't understand - the color of his skin is irrelevant.
@GreatDaneCourse TOTALLY AGREED. the color of the skin doesn't matter. he achives results with methods most people don't understand, which is why there are so many out-of-balance dogs in America in the first place! so closed minded! dogs are a different species, but humans (well, at least most Americans) see them as little people in fur. though he doesn't agree with our approach to dogs, he used a Gandhi quote to commend US dog owners on their compassion and ability to love. :)
@GreatDaneCourse u dont think he abuses dogs? and uses alpha dominance techniques that fade over time if the alpha is present? I am not trying to pick a fight just have a discussion
@wholelover I agree w/you about Cesar and the results he gets. However, I don't think being Mexican is why people do not like his approach. If he was Caucasian, these same people would criticize him.
@wholelover Your going to play the Racism card? Maybe it's because the original researcher and expert in his field who has studied wolves and dogs for the last 40 years, and invented the word, "Alpha Male" watch?v=tNtFgdwTsbU, now says he wished he never said that and the whole theory is complete garbage. The American Humane Association official statement is Ceasars techniques have set the whole field back by decades and are, "inhumane, outdated and improper"
@wholelover Dog are not decided by "The Alpha Male" The top hyararchy is simply the breeding male and female dog. With their pups underneath them. This parental structure is exactly the same as humans and when you adopt a dog it assumes you as it's parent. If there is a lot of misbehavior problems - 90% of the time this is caused by you not being active enough with your animal. I own a full breed husky who gets ran 5-10 miles every single day. It's not their fault most people are lazy fat asses.
@DJizzleDrizzle Sorry to have to point this out to you and all, but huskies were bred to run. They are sled dogs. You have to let them run long distances every day or else they will tear up your house because of all of their energy. They are really amazing animals cause they can adapt their metabolism when they go on long journey's. They generally don't have to eat as much as other dogs and in fact it can cause health problems if they do. I have a husky and my mom has two. :)
@wholelover ridiculous statement, I don't care if he's white/black/yellow/bleu/green/purple/...
His training methods are old, and proven wrong by science and people who study dog behaviour! The right way to train a dog is positive reinforcement training , search it on google...
@wholelover ridiculous statement, I don't care if he's white/black/yellow/bleu/green/purple/...
His training methods are old, and proven wrong by science and people who study dog behaviour! The right way to train a dog is positive reinforcement training , search it on google...
Cesar's method does work. He changes dogs' bad behavior with minimal effort and without hurting them. It's all psychological. I don't know why some people think he is hurting the dog? How would you change those bad behaviors?
I agree with him that as a human, you need to be a leader of your dog. Unless you're OK with whatever you dog does and feel absolutely wonderful about it, then change those behaviors by being a leader.
Geezus!!! did you see how that monster ignored that dog? then he has the nerve to "shhhhhh" the dog!? what an animal!! his methods are too extreme, i one thousand percent agree with travatore75 Extremely outdated and very harmful techniques
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I also object to his use of the term "whisperer". This term was originally coined to describe someone so in tune with animals that they could "whisper" them into a relaxed, accepting state. Being a whisperer holds a connotation of kindness and understanding, neither of which can be used to describe Millan. He's simply a man with a dominating personality who has some charisma and evidently knows someone in Hollywood, because he had to have known someone to get where he is now.
More important, aggression often has underlying medical causes that might not be readily apparent -- hip dysplasia or some other hidden physical ailment that causes the dog to bite out of pain; hereditary forms of sudden rage that require a medical history and genealogy to diagnose; inadequate blood flow to the brain or a congenital brain malformation that produces aggression and can only be uncovered through a medical examination.
Extremely outdated and very harmful techniques using dominance theories that have been long scientifically disproved and working using fear and force.
Looking at these dogs, you will notice their ears are always laid back, they are always highly stressed and panting. There are better ways to train dogs and way more qualified trainers. Perhaps less sensationalist however, since really good behaviorist will not force a dog "over the threshhold" as Cesar constantly does.
I "shhhh" people and poke their neck all the time now -- it's awesome. I work with kindergarten children and it works great. Next week I work with seniors and I can't wait 'till pudding time, thanks Ceasar!!
@OctoBox Actually that "Sssshh" is something quite of Mexican touch there. You see, we've got lots of strays on the streets and commonly they get into trouble and one the first things any person would yell at them or fence the off is "¡Sshhh! ¡Sacase!" or "Uuussshele!" "Salte!", I've never seen any stray that doesn't go away with these words. There's something with the "S". You can ask any Mexican about this :)
@OctoBox It actually works with children, I did it with my daughter without even thinking about it since I had a dog in training at home to. It made my kid listen and be calm and focuse on me. And btw, I wizzle on her instead of calling her name, it´s great in situations like for example at the supermarket, calling her name is a sound that just "dissapears" in all of the sounds there, but a signature wizzle is something the kid can hear far away and recognize. It all sounds crazy, but works fine
@neuroleptika The sound Cesar makes towards the dogs........was the sound his mom made towards him and his siblings when she got on to them or wanted them to knock it off.
Sometimes, it's hard to watch these episodes. The man has a bully pulpit, and could do so much good, yet he fails to educate himself about current knowledge on dog behavior and uses outdated techniques that people will "try at home" despite the disclaimer on the show, and which could prove very dangerous.
I love how everyone is "Italian." We all have different backgournds but I am tired of this "I'm Italian" propoganda (kiss me im italian, licence plates, flags, "i'm italian so I make alot of pasta" etc etc can any of these people speak the language or know anything of the cultre? hmm. Sry to rant but I have heard that "i'm italian" in such a snooty way my whole life.
On a lighter note, great video, I love Ceasar Millan :)
@kayjei The dog was not backing up with ears back. He is obviously excited and trying to stand his territory. Avoiding eye-contact is the way dogs says "Ok, you are the leader, i'm not challenging you". Stop trying to use human concepts on a dog. This is about the dog understanding his position in the group. Each position in the group makes him take a diferent posture. That is true to all pack animals.
Humans are not dogs - and there are NO pack positions between animals of different species... Or have you ever seen a Bear lead a wolf pack?
Reknowned specialists who have researched dogs for decades assure, that there is no such thing as a "pack" Structure between dogs and humans.... and the mere idea of it is preposterous if you stop to think about it.
Several of the really qualified dog behaviorists have written enough about the outdated and false dominance theory.
@finnholger i used an electric dog collar on mine... you try training an offleash 2 year old pit that's never had training. also, just fyi there's a huge difference between a shock collar and a training collar. the training collar isn't to scare or hurt them, it's to distract them from what they're doing. If I still had my training collar I'd put a video up of the proper way to use it. my dog loved her collar and would try to nuzzle her way into it anytime she saw it. they can be very helpful
how can he claim this is "excited dominance" when the dog is backing up with ears back? those are signs that the dog is fearful and stressed. when he supposedly switches to "submissive" his head is low, he is avoiding eye-contact and he is panting, meaning he is just more stressed and anxious. the problem has not at all been solved at all!
And you're a complete idiot. It isn't magic. It's all pretty damn simple. He doesn't claim to have this magic cure for dogs. He always says that its simply a case of changing your own behavior, and its just that we never quite got that.
Cesar understands what dogs are by knowing they are just wolves and knowing what a wolf is by observing it objectively and interactively. He knows what they are. Most humans don't. They think a dog is a human and try treat them as such, not realizing that dogs aren't humans. It should be obvious that they are not humans, but due to our nature of behavior we are very much unable to recognize differences and become cowardly as we approach them. This is why there is so much hate amongst ourselves.
Leothehood, I am beginning to think you have a deeper issue in your hate against cesar to come to every video and comment?? Can not only be about how you believe you are so educated and know so much about dog behaviour! and training! If you did you would agree with some of his methods. And he clearly does not abuse these dogs!
@hope4discovery Actually no. Anyone who knows the first thing about dog behavior or sound training methods, does not agree with Millan. There are plenty of professionals out there who find his methods anachronistic, dangerous and cruel... And they are right by the way.
Cesar Millan has NO qualifications as an animal behaviorist... Check out the Homepage of real Professionals: Beyond Cesar Millan.
most people fall into that because they don't think dogs as dogs . Cesar may have no qualification but he has over 25 years of experience working with dogs observing and rehabilitating them , rescuing them from being put down. If you think taming down a vicious dog so that it can live in peace and socialize cruel I don't know what do you believe in. I mean he's working with National Geographic Channel for years now if he was doing something wrong why would they keep him.
@hendrixexperiencedig What I believe in? Having sound science behind methods! Qualifications - so that brutality becomes unnecessary. Professionals around the world are rehabilitating highly aggressive dogs daily using sound science and positive methods (desensitization, counterconditioning, stress reduction methods etc.). People like Dr. Ian Dunbar or Dr. Sophia Yin - who just know what they are doing and don't base their methods on: "I'm a macho and expert at getting bitten!".
it's not brutality is it, cesar is imitating other dogs because sound science is not something natural or primal to dogs it's a man-made application which can lead to same issues you've pointed out.
@hendrixexperiencedig So you have actually seen dogs strangle other dogs with a leash or kick other dogs? I haven't. In fact, the entire notion of being a "pack leader" has been scientifically disproved by Dr. in ethology(Dr. Feddersen Petersen), since NO wolf pack has ever been led by any other animal but a wolf. Or have you seen any ape leading a wolf pack lately? Cesar is NOT a dog and therefore cannot ever be seen by other dogs as being even a part of a pack, let alone a leader.
There's a difference between kick and correction, I don't prefer one method to the other as long as it keeps the dogs balanced they all work, I'm not saying cesars way is the only way and for a fact most canidaes do have pack mentality and hierarchy. I have rescued 3 dogs 2 of which were unbalanced. I have followed the pack leader mentality which doesn't include kicking, abusing or being cruel. They're all happy and social now if I was doing something wrong they would protest
@hendrixexperiencedig Why prefer a method which has been scientifically proven wrong and requires submitting a sentient animal to pain, stress and suffering, when there is a sound and secure way to do it without causing suffering or stress? If "correction" requires kicking&strangling - then no, there is no difference just because you call it "correction". Of-course dogs have a pack mentality to DOGS. Cesar is not a dog, he simply forces submission through fear and pain. Example: Shadow.
my point is this , it's not a 'kick' or 'strangle' . I don't have to use any kind of brute force for any correction it's just a way of adressing yourself just like vocalizing what you want . When you approach with that kind of attitude (aggression , frustiration ) the dog doesn't take you serious anyway . And Cesar's work show for itself, if dogs only have pack mentality to dogs then he couldn't walk with 20 dogs at the same time and lead them. Dogs run away or bark at fear.
@hendrixexperiencedig Then we are not talking about the same Cesar. Look for the video with "Shadow" and you will see that Cesar's methods do indeed include strangling and kicking. He ignores calming signals & knows nothing of the biological neurochemical processes behind aggression. I did take the trouble to watch a large amount of his work before making my personal judgement. There is a Site called "beyond cesar millan" where real professionals (qualified ones) address these concerns.
everyone can make mistakes , and people critisizing a very nobel man here which we saw the same thing over and over in history. Cesar has helped many dogs and rescued them from being put down countless times . 'Maybe' sometimes the animal goes through tough time during the rehabilitation but its for the good of the rest of its life. I don't need to look beyond cesar as my dogs are perfectly balanced right now.
@hendrixexperiencedig When your mistakes include stressing, kicking and strangling animals needlessly (since there are better methods) then you SHOULD be criticized. There are plenty of qualified professionals out there rehabilitating aggressive dogs and doing so without harmful methods. The choice to portray this kind of work widely on TV is purely for quotes (sensationalism) and this harms dogs, since ignorant owners will tend to believe there is no alternative. So we will agree to disagree!
Love, love, love Cesar!! If you don't like the dynamic between you and you're dog- change it. Truth is, the suggestions he gives these people about owning there personal power, works in life. You don't just teach the dogs how to treat and respect you, you often teaching the world how to view you.
Any more msgs at me I'm deleting because I refuse to play in a stupid argument lol It still makes me laugh. anyway bye and although you may try to continue msg me I wont reply to your threads... I asked you several times stop msg @ me. I'm not Cesar Crazy once again I believe in methods. some work some don't. I own 6 rotties and each are happy :) Im gonna keep it that way :)
Im not arguing, and You cannot Change the world. You seem to think you can with dog training. No one is perfect, not even Cesar, you or me. or anyone on this darn youtube. Everyone has the right. But No longer msg at me please your blabbing on is annoying.
If You don't like Him then stop arguing with ppls opinions and get a life..... Many will continue to Like Cesar or methods... I'm not just saying Cesar. I believe if it was abuse etc... as I said before... it wouldn't be allowed posted... and also If you don't like him then don't watch him its that simple. I am not consumed by the Dog whisperer I only believe there are Different methods, and Cesar's. seem to work. Also once again stop msg @ me.
You also like to Manipulate and for someone who is 41 years of age, I think that is sad. So this is my last comment to you! NO ONE knows it all Not you not me and not anyone, Your not no King of Dog training otherwise you would own a show. and for the last time.. Seriously No matter if money was involved they wont put abusive stuff on tv sorry, or let him write novels, and PUBLISH EM) , I will no longer reply because thats what you want, I wont go to ur level lol. u make me laugh.
I dont have anything I have to prove. Im not the one questioning behavioral science, I know how it works, unlike Cesar. Im watching the show, providing commentary, and trying to explain what many other trainers would do in these situations, or not.
In Other words I wont play your little game, YOU DO NOT know it all as you seem to brag and go on and get technical with everyone opinions on here, I have trained Rotties all my life NONE are unhappy. I will continue to adore Cesar, You wont be able to change that no matter HOW hard you try. Stop messaging at me, your only making yourself a fool, If you know as much as you say you do why not make YOUR OWN show and prove it. I really hate people like you who think THEIR always correct.
And I hate when TV broadcast wrong, outdated and abusive messages through a so called "DOG WHISPERER" , which is so far from the truth as possible.
I do it for the sake and well being of the dogs, and nothing else, why do you think it is about TV shows and making money, it is all for the sake of the dog and absolutely nothing else matter.
I Know a lot about dogs in order to own 6 rottweilers Leo, I love How you argue its so immature, Please leave me alone the more you argue though the more i laugh because you know shit all.
Leo If it was that abusive it would not be allowed to air... Im sorry but Im no longer arguing over your stupid Comments... many people will continue to like him and his ways.... I as one of them. And You need to get a life instead of logging on here and trying to just Argue for something to do. lol its people like you who really make me laugh.. You can continue Arguing but seriously its sad you got nothing better to do.
I love the scientific approach in your comments, it makes me really want to be at my best, and it also makes me realize that knowledge about dog behavior is not a common thing.
Oh you would be surprised what can be allowed on the air, if there is a dollar to be earned then it will go on air, thats for sure.
The American human association warned The natoinal geographic from the beginning that his methods were abusive and wrong, and potentially dangerous to dogs and people, but that only made then add the claim not to do this at home(or without a professional) but no professional would ever use his techniques
A lite case takes very little effort to train and a tough case takes more effort and patience. If someone is constantly corecting thier dog then they are not doing something right.If there dog is nervous, scared ,uncertain lacks confidence, they are doing something wong, such as being abusive. If you really understand what Cesar teaches the you understand that this is not what is being taught. A nervous dog is dangerous and this can stem from abuse, Cesar goal is a ballanced dog. It works.
Cesar is not balancing anything, he is using dominance theory on almost any problem, which is complety false analysis of problem dogs.
And suppressing the dogs behavior does not teach the dog anything but that, it does not solve anything it only suppress the behavior, it will emerge later on, then you have to suppress the behavior again and again again.......
Cesar may get bitten occationally but when you deal with high level or extreme cases you will get bitten. As for abusive, If someone is seeing that then they obviously dont understand what is being taught. Just like raising children if you let them do what they want or get away with everything then they become hard to deal with. If you ever read about terriers, you must become the leader. You must also learn your dog and adapt your training to suit,Which is what Cesar teaches.
His methods is abusive to the dogs, that is why he gets bitten, if he didn't he wouldn't get bitten, professionals who have been doing the same job that he do more many more years than he, have never been bitten, but they are not abusive, try gooling Anders Hallgren.
I have never met someone who if they are working with truely troubled and agressive dogs that are beyond help or been slated to be put down, havent been bitten at least once. But maybe I havent worked with the trainers you have.
He isnt suppressing the behavior, He is teaching them how to behave, and he trys to find the root of the behavoir. Just like a kid that gets away with temper tantrums, you have to teach right from wrong. First you get them to stop it, then you find the root.
But you are right in that you should just not suppress as it could lead to problems. He does do that on stubborn cases but may not always show that on a show. I think if we look at any trainor people are going to find fault. I look at a dogs reaction and how the respond afterwards. Are they shying away, fearfull, cowering, or do they have confidence, do they carry themselves with pride, If so then I've done a good job, and thats what I look for in dogs with thier owners or trainers as well.
I dont know exactly how many times he have got bitten, but it is many times, and when he know for sure what is coming he uses a muzzle, you see that a lot, a very large procentage of the videos on youtube represent a severe danger for him and any one else who attempt his technique, I'm amazed that any one can believe his method is correct, please watch the dogs, what you see is true, the dogs are very unhappy, and it is a unnatural way to deal with dogs.
Usually he puts a muzzle on to keep other dogs from being bitten. Not so worried about it himself. As for his method, I feel there is no one method, but many methods based on how your dog reacts to what you are teaching as Most dogs don't need this level, Rarely does it need to be used. But just as kids that are out of control with no respect or people who are addicts that call for stonger methods, there are dogs that need a bit more. But don't use a sledge hammer when a cookie will do.
@nimlil Not if you are a professional you wont. Professionals around the world are rehabilitating highly aggressive dogs daily without getting bitten: unlike Cesar they know what they are doing and are qualified animal behaviorists. I actually happen to be assisting one at such sessions since a few months and I can tell you that none of the methods involved require getting bitten or kicking, pushing down or strangling animals. Check out Dr. Dunbar oder Dr. Sophia Yin: there IS an alternative.
I'd also like to say that his method cannot be proven wrong. The wolf pack theory "studies" are bull crap in my mind.
If they were proven wrong then why do they work? If you don't agree with his methods that is fine. But its another thing to call him wrong JUST because you use a different method.
It is not important what method a particular dog owner use training his dog, but a guy appearing on television have to use the best and the most ethically correct methods, and can not disseminate incorrect information to television viewers on dog behavior.
If he tell you can use the amount of pressure that is needed then you know that a lot of people will use too much violence, then I think it is better to use non violent methods, the dog dont get hurt by many treats
The methods aren't violent. He is not giving off false information. And the show clearly states that you should not preform any of the methods without a professional. So if you think that people will do these methods anyway and do them so wrong as to make them violent then we should take off cartoons because they use violence and some kid thinks its ok to hit another kid because he saw it on tv.
There is nothing me, or you can do about this, because is just isn't our choice to make.
I fail to see the connection with the cartoons, cartoons are obviosly fiction, "The dogwhisperer" is very real, and is by many people percieved as educating, I believe we have to percieve his show as entertainment.
In Denmark he was taken off the air on national television, due to a massive pressure from professional trainers and dog psychologists, as well as the common dog owner, "over here his method is by most people considered abusive and wrong learning at least.
well yea he was pressured into being off air...when people feel like something better has come along they get a little worried and over protective of their lively-hood
I don't mean only cartoons.. All tv shows and movies have violence.. And I was just trying to make a point.
And maybe in 60 more years there will be a more effective way of training and only positive, then Victoria Stilwell will be put off air.. Then another good trainer, then another.
Something new is always coming along, but Cesar Millan's methods are NOT abusive. You will not change my mind. And I am done trying to argue my point.
Just because a few professional dog people whatever do not agree and call it abuse.... means it is abuse. Im not replying to anyone after this because it will become a broken record I would be repeating myself.... Like i said before If it was so abuse.... why do dogs know the language. Seriously they have Discipline and abuse all mixed up these modern days now.
Its called dog Languages I had said Im not getting in the middle of what your going on about I Use Cesars technique,s its called dog language... Im not arguing If he was abusive then why is he inspiring so many people and their dogs? If it was abuse he would not be allowed to air such a show! anyway Argue on all you like But I never had problems with any of my dogs and mine are Pitt bulls and Rottweilers. No problems.... I use his ways. I wont change.
People need to stop thinking they know it all... Cesar does it his way... many do training their way however its now seen that Cesar ways DO work a lot. I'm a Trainer as well. I USE a lot of what he uses, JUST because someone else s training techniques don't fit into your judgment don't mean you get to start things you cannot finish. It sounds like Leo is aggressiv, hes competative and Dominant.... He may be knocked down a few notches either by another trainer or a dog.
Why do you make the conclusion that because I don't like using Cesars abusive methods I must have problems with my trainer colleagues and/or dogs? why is it necessary to become "aggressive" (to use your words)
I have never said I know it all, I only speak out against methods That have been prooven wrong by many professional "dogpeople", and I have seen so many examples where he is plain wrong in analysing dogs behavior, when he can't read a dog how can he then treat a dog.
I am glad to see we have some Cesar fans here. There so many people calling him "old school" and that his methods were proved wrong. Yet what I don't get, is if they are "wrong" then how do they work? If the pack theory isn't true then why is taking control of the pack so helpful? You answer me that, and then maybe I will believe this whole "Positive only" thing.
Well dog training is not one method, its a variety of methods. So if it works, and it is not physically or mentally harmful to the dog. Then you should do it. That is Cesar's methods, A method that works but is not harmful. I am not a person who uses 100% positive, I believe a dog should have corrections. I use an equilibrium of positive and negative.
Many professionals talk against Cesars Methods, just naming a few, Italian veterinary behaviourists, American College of Veterinary Behaviorists (ACVB), American Veterinary Society of Animal Behavior (AVSAB) and the Society of Veterinary Behavior Technicians (SVBT) the National Associciation of Italian Veterinary Doctors (ANMVI), Association of Pet Dog Trainers (UK) (APDT), perhaps all of these people might be right and Cesar is wrong.
the blonde had sex with cesar millan after the show! lol
MrFatman360 5 days ago
i got really drunk one day and was telling everybody who Cesar Millan was and that hes my idol.
siillentkiiller 3 weeks ago
I would have said Cesar Millan is my role model (: Thumbs up if you agree!
bloodygunner 3 weeks ago
at 0:52 it sounds like hes saying niggativity
sneakypig1008 1 month ago
Wow, that bitch looks like an alien. Fake face, fake tits...doesn't even look like the same species anymore.
ripticdu 1 month ago
WTF just happened in the video?
priyaranjansharmash 2 months ago
1:51 Straight Up OWN!!
Caesar: "Watch this, okay. So he is coming over here,...thaaat's right....
Ssssshhhhh..."
Dog owner: "Up the hill, GO!"
Caesar: "I told him to walk back"
Dog Owner: "..Oh...
lady: "....oh my god...
bwahahahhwhahahahhha!!! LOL!
sydswirl 2 months ago
1:57 dog is like "wtf?"
IOnlyTeachFreeMoney 3 months ago
cesar is genuis!
ritz1622 5 months ago
beautiful dogs...
p2kyrock01 6 months ago
i believe she has a penis. 2:23 dont tell me otherwise,that a man right there wtf
rhadoolinho 6 months ago
HA hA HA HA!!! @AboutDogTraining3 is here too... he stalks every cesar millan vid... good work, why dont you devote you time to "dog Whispering?" Hehehe
1986leriegirl 6 months ago
Omg stop the negative comments about Cesar. He is doing a great job. He learns you to be the pack leader.. did you ever seen an alpha being like.. ' no stop, you can't do that.'
Goldwolfin666 7 months ago
@Goldwolfin666, you can't be a pack leader because such an idea does not exist to a dog. Dogs don't form packs.
AboutDogTraining3 7 months ago
@AboutDogTraining3 Dogs can form packs. I have 4 beautifull and loving dogs, only because i'am leader. Dogs need someone to follow, who guide them.
Goldwolfin666 7 months ago
@Goldwolfin666 , your dogs are not a pack. No more than a group of 9 guys is a baseball team. It's just a group of dogs and the operational definition of a pack is not met.
AboutDogTraining3 7 months ago
@AboutDogTraining3 Stop talking, you don't know much about dogs!
Goldwolfin666 7 months ago
@Goldwolfin666, sure shit for brains. I just shut down your stupid claim. Now get a life.
AboutDogTraining3 7 months ago
@AboutDogTraining3 Tell that to the "group" of dogs in town that were hunting down and killing small dogs and cats. That sounds like pack behavior, to me.
LukaTisus 6 months ago
@LukaTisus, you are mistaken. Those were individual dogs that were not acting in unison. So you are screwed up again, there is no evidence to support your assertion.
AboutDogTraining3 6 months ago
@AboutDogTraining3 Yeah, ok. I didn't know a group of dogs traveling around together and attacking one single animal was unison behavior. Forgive me for my unforgiveable ignorance, oh mighty dog-expert.
I will no longer feed your need to troll. I know what I saw, perhaps you should do a bit more research of your own to support your own flawed assumptions. The evidence is there, you just refuse to see it.
LukaTisus 6 months ago
@LukaTisus , that right they are not a pack by any operational definition. They are a group of dogs. 6 guys are also not a hockey team. Your ignorance would be tolerable if you were trying. Instead you prefer to cling to these myths. You are the worst kind of troll. What you see is socially facilitated behavior, not a pack. See, idiot, all that ejumacation can be put to use.
AboutDogTraining3 6 months ago
@AboutDogTraining3 No, but they are a pack by social and literal definition, as it's the term used toward a group of canines. And who's the troll, here? Really? Need I hunt down the definition of that as well? Because I cling to no myth. I've grown up around dogs my entire life, YOU on the other hand, seem insistent to cling to this silly belief that dogs have been too 'domesticated' to be associated with wolves. Take your head out of your ass. :)
LukaTisus 6 months ago
@LukaTisus If you dilute the word so that it becomes operationally meaningless, then you might as well say they are a bloushgznark. However, intelligent people use the word 'pack'to mean something very specific and that means they are not a pack. You persist on using outdated terms and due to your idiotic behavior refuse to acknowledge modern findings. In short you are a fucking moron. Read up on Coppinger, Ciucci, Boitani, Miklosi, Kubiny. You simply don't know what you are talking about
AboutDogTraining3 6 months ago
Great Cesar to let us owner to manage our 4-legged child xD
spottyloo 7 months ago
He is gifted but his concepts are I think too subtle for the majority of people to use. It does help him to make more money for himself though!
painemporium 8 months ago
i seem to remember this particular couple got another great dane with exactly the same behaviours as their original
MsTicklemesilly 8 months ago
Cesar is cool, but it's too bad he feeds poison like Iams to his dogs. You'd think all the research, and knowledge of dogs he has, he'd look into better food.
PUNKem733 8 months ago
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Cesar Millán, dirty mexican/chinese wetback, go back to your country.
LolonMatinez 9 months ago
@LolonMatinez kill yourself
JimB667 8 months ago 13
@LolonMatinez
Fuck up
uncpire 8 months ago
You can hate on cesar all you want but hey he's living his dream and your probably not.
duderr0 9 months ago
It may all sound great, but real animal behaviorists, trainers and researchers look at Cesar and want to cry. Even the stuff he does that works doesn't work for the reasons that Cesar thinks, and half the time Cesar doesn't even notice what's really going on with the dog. Check out the episode where Cesar chokes the husky until it collapses, and then points to the dog's baculum as proof that the dog was trying to dominate him. When a male dog is in pain, his baculum (penis bone) sticks out.
voronwae 10 months ago
@voronwae -- The "penis bone" sticks out during pain? It sticks out during excitement dear - how else do you think dogs mate?
NextMrsBradPitt 9 months ago
Cesar Rocks, and he is one of the greatest teachers of our time!!!! You go Cesar ;) :)
ja2vesna 11 months ago
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A consortium of 26 animal welfare organisations including the RSPCA, the Australian Veterinary Association, the Kennel Club and the British Veterinary Association, has written an open letter warning that Millan’s methods will lead to “pain and fear”, and are “not only unacceptable from a welfare perspective, but not necessary for the modification of dog behaviour”.
tallykita 11 months ago
I bet the people that say cesars ways are harsh are the same people that giver their kids time out for discipline just to have them go shoot up their school.... cesar is doing nothing that the dominant male or female would do in the wild. Its like with my dog he loves to play with me and we have fun but when i say enough he stops.
wwowdude 1 year ago
great danes do the smelliest farts
teedonster 1 year ago 2
I hate when some people say he uses fear among other things to help these dogs. He clearly isnt. I've used these methods in the past way before I discovered Cesar and they work brilliantly.
MewtwosLittleOne 1 year ago
why is it always some dumb sniveling yuppie?
Taud 1 year ago
I don't want you to be Bruce Pristy
Flammazine 1 year ago
"Shhhh" hurts dogs? I'm glad that's how Milan abuses dogs, by shhshing them. Can't be any more harmless abuse than that.
Ritercrazy 1 year ago
would have been funny at 1:10 "Who is your role model..............Adolf Hitler" :D
Plpoo 1 year ago
and people talk about how aggressive pits are
MrPANDPKENNELS 1 year ago
@MrPANDPKENNELS Pits can be agressive when they are raised the wrong way. They are basuicly just misunderstood. :c
SONYandMICROSOFT 1 year ago
I've noticed how Cesar has been criticized, (even when he gets results with dogs nobody can help), and I realized it's because of his Mexican background. If this guy was white, how many people would call him names?
wholelover 1 year ago 43
@wholelover Oh cmon now Im white and I like Ceasar and even if he was white people would still be criticizing him because there are trolls everywhere on youtube! thats just a racist and ridiculous comment - I dont think its necessary to inject the race issue into this lets enjoy the dogs and see what Ceasar can do
cashmny78 4 months ago
@wholelover not sure thats true,im white english and think Cesar is a legend if i didnt like the way he got results it wouldnt be because the colour of his skin ???
mrlordsnooty 4 months ago
@mrlordsnooty Being that you're British, what do you know about the US? Do you live here? If you did, you'd know how things go.
wholelover 4 months ago
@wholelover you said white not american ? and if thats the case in america its very sad and dumb, people criticizing Cesar's dog handling on the colour of his skin, btw im from England.
mrlordsnooty 4 months ago
@wholelover yeah play the race card jackass
fuckoff989 3 months ago
@wholelover
I see it the other way around. The reason Cesar is so popular is because of his charismatic tv personality. In fact, he could be teaching people about cooking and he'd be just as popular.
bananian 3 months ago 4
@wholelover People who don't understand the psychology of animals will beat down anybody who has an approach other than their own. Cesar gets results in a fashion that many don't understand - the color of his skin is irrelevant.
GreatDaneCourse 3 months ago 11
@GreatDaneCourse TOTALLY AGREED. the color of the skin doesn't matter. he achives results with methods most people don't understand, which is why there are so many out-of-balance dogs in America in the first place! so closed minded! dogs are a different species, but humans (well, at least most Americans) see them as little people in fur. though he doesn't agree with our approach to dogs, he used a Gandhi quote to commend US dog owners on their compassion and ability to love. :)
dumblondepride1 3 months ago
@GreatDaneCourse u dont think he abuses dogs? and uses alpha dominance techniques that fade over time if the alpha is present? I am not trying to pick a fight just have a discussion
cristinaumbrello 1 week ago
@wholelover Haha, you said it! Definitely agree with you. I love Cesar, he´s just amazing.
CloudStrife2014 3 months ago
@wholelover I agree w/you about Cesar and the results he gets. However, I don't think being Mexican is why people do not like his approach. If he was Caucasian, these same people would criticize him.
JOPAGalvin 3 months ago 3
@wholelover Your going to play the Racism card? Maybe it's because the original researcher and expert in his field who has studied wolves and dogs for the last 40 years, and invented the word, "Alpha Male" watch?v=tNtFgdwTsbU, now says he wished he never said that and the whole theory is complete garbage. The American Humane Association official statement is Ceasars techniques have set the whole field back by decades and are, "inhumane, outdated and improper"
LatitudeClear 1 month ago 2
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@LatitudeClear Yes, teaching a dog respect and teaching the owners how to be in charge is 'inhumane'.
Having an out of control, aggressive and unhappy dog is worse imo.
I can't ever remember him using the term 'alpha male'. Only 'pack leader' which is what dogs have, pack leaders = the breeding pair.
Whereas I don't agree with him advising choke/shock collars, he otherwise gets results.
I think GreatDaneCourse said it quite well below.
Razkali 1 month ago
@wholelover Dog are not decided by "The Alpha Male" The top hyararchy is simply the breeding male and female dog. With their pups underneath them. This parental structure is exactly the same as humans and when you adopt a dog it assumes you as it's parent. If there is a lot of misbehavior problems - 90% of the time this is caused by you not being active enough with your animal. I own a full breed husky who gets ran 5-10 miles every single day. It's not their fault most people are lazy fat asses.
LatitudeClear 1 month ago 3
@LatitudeClear that would probably ruin a dogs hips id be careful not only for your dog but your knees as well
DJizzleDrizzle 1 month ago
@DJizzleDrizzle Sorry to have to point this out to you and all, but huskies were bred to run. They are sled dogs. You have to let them run long distances every day or else they will tear up your house because of all of their energy. They are really amazing animals cause they can adapt their metabolism when they go on long journey's. They generally don't have to eat as much as other dogs and in fact it can cause health problems if they do. I have a husky and my mom has two. :)
MissB2TheLynn 1 month ago
@wholelover ridiculous statement, I don't care if he's white/black/yellow/bleu/green/purple/...
His training methods are old, and proven wrong by science and people who study dog behaviour! The right way to train a dog is positive reinforcement training , search it on google...
Crejaksiaan4ever 1 month ago
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@wholelover ridiculous statement, I don't care if he's white/black/yellow/bleu/green/purple/...
His training methods are old, and proven wrong by science and people who study dog behaviour! The right way to train a dog is positive reinforcement training , search it on google...
Crejaksiaan4ever 1 month ago
Cesar's method does work. He changes dogs' bad behavior with minimal effort and without hurting them. It's all psychological. I don't know why some people think he is hurting the dog? How would you change those bad behaviors?
I agree with him that as a human, you need to be a leader of your dog. Unless you're OK with whatever you dog does and feel absolutely wonderful about it, then change those behaviors by being a leader.
Cattytea 1 year ago 4
"For an Italian, leadership is everything!"
lmao
InsanityFraud 1 year ago
Geezus!!! did you see how that monster ignored that dog? then he has the nerve to "shhhhhh" the dog!? what an animal!! his methods are too extreme, i one thousand percent agree with travatore75 Extremely outdated and very harmful techniques
xoxojbear 1 year ago
@xoxojbear I really hope you're joking.
suicune690 1 year ago
Has he got any revisited shows.... Like gone back to visit the dogs he has rehabilitated... Love cesar to the max....
DazzAwhi 1 year ago
Cesar Rocks!
moonbearwolf 1 year ago
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I also object to his use of the term "whisperer". This term was originally coined to describe someone so in tune with animals that they could "whisper" them into a relaxed, accepting state. Being a whisperer holds a connotation of kindness and understanding, neither of which can be used to describe Millan. He's simply a man with a dominating personality who has some charisma and evidently knows someone in Hollywood, because he had to have known someone to get where he is now.
MsLabMom 1 year ago
More important, aggression often has underlying medical causes that might not be readily apparent -- hip dysplasia or some other hidden physical ailment that causes the dog to bite out of pain; hereditary forms of sudden rage that require a medical history and genealogy to diagnose; inadequate blood flow to the brain or a congenital brain malformation that produces aggression and can only be uncovered through a medical examination.
Labloverification 1 year ago
ORGULLOSAMENTE MEXICANO CLARO QUE SI PARA QUE VEAN QUE MI PAIS TAMBIEN FABRICA PERSONAS CHINGONAS
bofecianoss 1 year ago 2
Extremely outdated and very harmful techniques using dominance theories that have been long scientifically disproved and working using fear and force.
Looking at these dogs, you will notice their ears are always laid back, they are always highly stressed and panting. There are better ways to train dogs and way more qualified trainers. Perhaps less sensationalist however, since really good behaviorist will not force a dog "over the threshhold" as Cesar constantly does.
Trovatore75 1 year ago
Ceasar is a Jedi
I "shhhh" people and poke their neck all the time now -- it's awesome. I work with kindergarten children and it works great. Next week I work with seniors and I can't wait 'till pudding time, thanks Ceasar!!
OctoBox 1 year ago 9
@OctoBox Actually that "Sssshh" is something quite of Mexican touch there. You see, we've got lots of strays on the streets and commonly they get into trouble and one the first things any person would yell at them or fence the off is "¡Sshhh! ¡Sacase!" or "Uuussshele!" "Salte!", I've never seen any stray that doesn't go away with these words. There's something with the "S". You can ask any Mexican about this :)
AmarokSaga 7 months ago
@OctoBox LOL!!!
KO9958 4 months ago
@OctoBox It actually works with children, I did it with my daughter without even thinking about it since I had a dog in training at home to. It made my kid listen and be calm and focuse on me. And btw, I wizzle on her instead of calling her name, it´s great in situations like for example at the supermarket, calling her name is a sound that just "dissapears" in all of the sounds there, but a signature wizzle is something the kid can hear far away and recognize. It all sounds crazy, but works fine
neuroleptika 4 months ago
@neuroleptika The sound Cesar makes towards the dogs........was the sound his mom made towards him and his siblings when she got on to them or wanted them to knock it off.
sheeeve08 3 months ago
Sometimes, it's hard to watch these episodes. The man has a bully pulpit, and could do so much good, yet he fails to educate himself about current knowledge on dog behavior and uses outdated techniques that people will "try at home" despite the disclaimer on the show, and which could prove very dangerous.
sequoyahbean 1 year ago
I love how everyone is "Italian." We all have different backgournds but I am tired of this "I'm Italian" propoganda (kiss me im italian, licence plates, flags, "i'm italian so I make alot of pasta" etc etc can any of these people speak the language or know anything of the cultre? hmm. Sry to rant but I have heard that "i'm italian" in such a snooty way my whole life.
On a lighter note, great video, I love Ceasar Millan :)
calico102c 1 year ago
that dog is kinda big 0_o
DarkHeroMachine 1 year ago
This great Dane can't lift his ear dummy look at it every time lol
Kevincocoa 1 year ago
fukin sux
zebrahunteR23 1 year ago
@kayjei The dog was not backing up with ears back. He is obviously excited and trying to stand his territory. Avoiding eye-contact is the way dogs says "Ok, you are the leader, i'm not challenging you". Stop trying to use human concepts on a dog. This is about the dog understanding his position in the group. Each position in the group makes him take a diferent posture. That is true to all pack animals.
PinguimMarco 1 year ago 3
@PinguimMarco
Humans are not dogs - and there are NO pack positions between animals of different species... Or have you ever seen a Bear lead a wolf pack?
Reknowned specialists who have researched dogs for decades assure, that there is no such thing as a "pack" Structure between dogs and humans.... and the mere idea of it is preposterous if you stop to think about it.
Several of the really qualified dog behaviorists have written enough about the outdated and false dominance theory.
Trovatore75 1 year ago
Cesar is the Gran Master of Dog's
OltranzistaAmaranto 1 year ago
@rabbitphobia U are a sick sick individual. If u can't handel a dog without an electric dog collar, U shoudlnt be aloud to have dogs at all !
finnholger 1 year ago
@finnholger i used an electric dog collar on mine... you try training an offleash 2 year old pit that's never had training. also, just fyi there's a huge difference between a shock collar and a training collar. the training collar isn't to scare or hurt them, it's to distract them from what they're doing. If I still had my training collar I'd put a video up of the proper way to use it. my dog loved her collar and would try to nuzzle her way into it anytime she saw it. they can be very helpful
riflessss 1 year ago
@rabbitphobia u are a sick sick individual. If U can't handle a dog without an electric collar, U shouldnt be aloud to have dogs at all
finnholger 1 year ago
nigativity! :54
timdawg626 1 year ago
that's a huge bitch (female dog)
BorgHub 1 year ago
how can he claim this is "excited dominance" when the dog is backing up with ears back? those are signs that the dog is fearful and stressed. when he supposedly switches to "submissive" his head is low, he is avoiding eye-contact and he is panting, meaning he is just more stressed and anxious. the problem has not at all been solved at all!
kayjei 1 year ago
How is this insane?
4dorkyambers 2 years ago
@4dorkyambers insane because of the fact he commanded the fucking dog to go back only using his finger
erickrealz 1 year ago
Amazing. He is a complete Charleton. In this case he says absolutley nothing and does absolutely nother all in 3:09
sails4fun2003 2 years ago
And you're a complete idiot. It isn't magic. It's all pretty damn simple. He doesn't claim to have this magic cure for dogs. He always says that its simply a case of changing your own behavior, and its just that we never quite got that.
He proves it on every episode.
sibermonkey 2 years ago 9
Cesar is a gifted man, a good man, his love for dogs only enhances this case! He is a genius! Thank you, Mexico for sharing this talent with us!
ciert06 2 years ago 119
Cesar understands what dogs are by knowing they are just wolves and knowing what a wolf is by observing it objectively and interactively. He knows what they are. Most humans don't. They think a dog is a human and try treat them as such, not realizing that dogs aren't humans. It should be obvious that they are not humans, but due to our nature of behavior we are very much unable to recognize differences and become cowardly as we approach them. This is why there is so much hate amongst ourselves.
TheRadicalRyushin 1 year ago
@ciert06 Talent? SInce when have anymal mistreating been talent? Its not for nothing a danish tv stationg took his show off the tv..
RatsterZoo 1 year ago
Dogs listen to him cos he doesn't let a bitch push him around!
HateFenians 11 months ago
Leothehood, I am beginning to think you have a deeper issue in your hate against cesar to come to every video and comment?? Can not only be about how you believe you are so educated and know so much about dog behaviour! and training! If you did you would agree with some of his methods. And he clearly does not abuse these dogs!
hope4discovery 2 years ago 41
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@hope4discovery
It is impossible to debate in that way, what shall my response be to that ??, he clearly does abuse these dogs, could then be my response.
try googling
The Dog Whisperer: Frequently Asked Questions
You can get a lot of usefull reading there.
LeoTheHood 2 years ago
@hope4discovery Actually no. Anyone who knows the first thing about dog behavior or sound training methods, does not agree with Millan. There are plenty of professionals out there who find his methods anachronistic, dangerous and cruel... And they are right by the way.
Cesar Millan has NO qualifications as an animal behaviorist... Check out the Homepage of real Professionals: Beyond Cesar Millan.
Trovatore75 9 months ago
@Trovatore75
most people fall into that because they don't think dogs as dogs . Cesar may have no qualification but he has over 25 years of experience working with dogs observing and rehabilitating them , rescuing them from being put down. If you think taming down a vicious dog so that it can live in peace and socialize cruel I don't know what do you believe in. I mean he's working with National Geographic Channel for years now if he was doing something wrong why would they keep him.
hendrixexperiencedig 9 months ago
@hendrixexperiencedig What I believe in? Having sound science behind methods! Qualifications - so that brutality becomes unnecessary. Professionals around the world are rehabilitating highly aggressive dogs daily using sound science and positive methods (desensitization, counterconditioning, stress reduction methods etc.). People like Dr. Ian Dunbar or Dr. Sophia Yin - who just know what they are doing and don't base their methods on: "I'm a macho and expert at getting bitten!".
Trovatore75 9 months ago
@Trovatore75
it's not brutality is it, cesar is imitating other dogs because sound science is not something natural or primal to dogs it's a man-made application which can lead to same issues you've pointed out.
hendrixexperiencedig 9 months ago
@hendrixexperiencedig So you have actually seen dogs strangle other dogs with a leash or kick other dogs? I haven't. In fact, the entire notion of being a "pack leader" has been scientifically disproved by Dr. in ethology(Dr. Feddersen Petersen), since NO wolf pack has ever been led by any other animal but a wolf. Or have you seen any ape leading a wolf pack lately? Cesar is NOT a dog and therefore cannot ever be seen by other dogs as being even a part of a pack, let alone a leader.
Trovatore75 9 months ago
@Trovatore75
There's a difference between kick and correction, I don't prefer one method to the other as long as it keeps the dogs balanced they all work, I'm not saying cesars way is the only way and for a fact most canidaes do have pack mentality and hierarchy. I have rescued 3 dogs 2 of which were unbalanced. I have followed the pack leader mentality which doesn't include kicking, abusing or being cruel. They're all happy and social now if I was doing something wrong they would protest
hendrixexperiencedig 9 months ago
@hendrixexperiencedig Why prefer a method which has been scientifically proven wrong and requires submitting a sentient animal to pain, stress and suffering, when there is a sound and secure way to do it without causing suffering or stress? If "correction" requires kicking&strangling - then no, there is no difference just because you call it "correction". Of-course dogs have a pack mentality to DOGS. Cesar is not a dog, he simply forces submission through fear and pain. Example: Shadow.
Trovatore75 9 months ago
@Trovatore75
my point is this , it's not a 'kick' or 'strangle' . I don't have to use any kind of brute force for any correction it's just a way of adressing yourself just like vocalizing what you want . When you approach with that kind of attitude (aggression , frustiration ) the dog doesn't take you serious anyway . And Cesar's work show for itself, if dogs only have pack mentality to dogs then he couldn't walk with 20 dogs at the same time and lead them. Dogs run away or bark at fear.
hendrixexperiencedig 9 months ago
@hendrixexperiencedig Then we are not talking about the same Cesar. Look for the video with "Shadow" and you will see that Cesar's methods do indeed include strangling and kicking. He ignores calming signals & knows nothing of the biological neurochemical processes behind aggression. I did take the trouble to watch a large amount of his work before making my personal judgement. There is a Site called "beyond cesar millan" where real professionals (qualified ones) address these concerns.
Trovatore75 9 months ago
@Trovatore75
everyone can make mistakes , and people critisizing a very nobel man here which we saw the same thing over and over in history. Cesar has helped many dogs and rescued them from being put down countless times . 'Maybe' sometimes the animal goes through tough time during the rehabilitation but its for the good of the rest of its life. I don't need to look beyond cesar as my dogs are perfectly balanced right now.
hendrixexperiencedig 9 months ago
@hendrixexperiencedig When your mistakes include stressing, kicking and strangling animals needlessly (since there are better methods) then you SHOULD be criticized. There are plenty of qualified professionals out there rehabilitating aggressive dogs and doing so without harmful methods. The choice to portray this kind of work widely on TV is purely for quotes (sensationalism) and this harms dogs, since ignorant owners will tend to believe there is no alternative. So we will agree to disagree!
Trovatore75 9 months ago
@Trovatore75
well as you wish, I think ultimately we want the same thing so enough spamming this page for me.
hendrixexperiencedig 9 months ago
Um then if you can claim the same thing then why continue msg @ me lol. Bye. ANd I will continue to Like Some of Cesar methods and my own.
Agelesslegend23 2 years ago
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Agelesslegend23 2 years ago
Love, love, love Cesar!! If you don't like the dynamic between you and you're dog- change it. Truth is, the suggestions he gives these people about owning there personal power, works in life. You don't just teach the dogs how to treat and respect you, you often teaching the world how to view you.
Lifewhisperer 2 years ago 2
Any more msgs at me I'm deleting because I refuse to play in a stupid argument lol It still makes me laugh. anyway bye and although you may try to continue msg me I wont reply to your threads... I asked you several times stop msg @ me. I'm not Cesar Crazy once again I believe in methods. some work some don't. I own 6 rotties and each are happy :) Im gonna keep it that way :)
Agelesslegend23 2 years ago
If you do not have anything to prove then stop msg @ me end of Discussion. Thank you have a great life.
Agelesslegend23 2 years ago
@Agelesslegend23
I could claim exactly the same
LeoTheHood 2 years ago
Im not arguing, and You cannot Change the world. You seem to think you can with dog training. No one is perfect, not even Cesar, you or me. or anyone on this darn youtube. Everyone has the right. But No longer msg at me please your blabbing on is annoying.
Agelesslegend23 2 years ago
If You don't like Him then stop arguing with ppls opinions and get a life..... Many will continue to Like Cesar or methods... I'm not just saying Cesar. I believe if it was abuse etc... as I said before... it wouldn't be allowed posted... and also If you don't like him then don't watch him its that simple. I am not consumed by the Dog whisperer I only believe there are Different methods, and Cesar's. seem to work. Also once again stop msg @ me.
Agelesslegend23 2 years ago
You also like to Manipulate and for someone who is 41 years of age, I think that is sad. So this is my last comment to you! NO ONE knows it all Not you not me and not anyone, Your not no King of Dog training otherwise you would own a show. and for the last time.. Seriously No matter if money was involved they wont put abusive stuff on tv sorry, or let him write novels, and PUBLISH EM) , I will no longer reply because thats what you want, I wont go to ur level lol. u make me laugh.
Agelesslegend23 2 years ago
@Agelesslegend23
Perhaps I make you laugh, but Cesar makes me cry, when I watch how he mistreat and misunderstand dog and dogbehavior
LeoTheHood 2 years ago
@Agelesslegend23
You talk about "own my own show"
I dont have anything I have to prove. Im not the one questioning behavioral science, I know how it works, unlike Cesar. Im watching the show, providing commentary, and trying to explain what many other trainers would do in these situations, or not.
LeoTheHood 2 years ago
@LeoTheHood dude get a fuckin life you a loser trainer that is broke
badabingrockford 2 years ago
In Other words I wont play your little game, YOU DO NOT know it all as you seem to brag and go on and get technical with everyone opinions on here, I have trained Rotties all my life NONE are unhappy. I will continue to adore Cesar, You wont be able to change that no matter HOW hard you try. Stop messaging at me, your only making yourself a fool, If you know as much as you say you do why not make YOUR OWN show and prove it. I really hate people like you who think THEIR always correct.
Agelesslegend23 2 years ago
@Agelesslegend23
And I hate when TV broadcast wrong, outdated and abusive messages through a so called "DOG WHISPERER" , which is so far from the truth as possible.
I do it for the sake and well being of the dogs, and nothing else, why do you think it is about TV shows and making money, it is all for the sake of the dog and absolutely nothing else matter.
LeoTheHood 2 years ago
I Know a lot about dogs in order to own 6 rottweilers Leo, I love How you argue its so immature, Please leave me alone the more you argue though the more i laugh because you know shit all.
Agelesslegend23 2 years ago
Leo If it was that abusive it would not be allowed to air... Im sorry but Im no longer arguing over your stupid Comments... many people will continue to like him and his ways.... I as one of them. And You need to get a life instead of logging on here and trying to just Argue for something to do. lol its people like you who really make me laugh.. You can continue Arguing but seriously its sad you got nothing better to do.
Agelesslegend23 2 years ago
@Agelesslegend23
I love the scientific approach in your comments, it makes me really want to be at my best, and it also makes me realize that knowledge about dog behavior is not a common thing.
LeoTheHood 2 years ago
you seem consumed with the dog whisperer...what is with you? GET A LIFE
cbossell 2 years ago
@Agelesslegend23
Oh you would be surprised what can be allowed on the air, if there is a dollar to be earned then it will go on air, thats for sure.
The American human association warned The natoinal geographic from the beginning that his methods were abusive and wrong, and potentially dangerous to dogs and people, but that only made then add the claim not to do this at home(or without a professional) but no professional would ever use his techniques
LeoTheHood 2 years ago
A lite case takes very little effort to train and a tough case takes more effort and patience. If someone is constantly corecting thier dog then they are not doing something right.If there dog is nervous, scared ,uncertain lacks confidence, they are doing something wong, such as being abusive. If you really understand what Cesar teaches the you understand that this is not what is being taught. A nervous dog is dangerous and this can stem from abuse, Cesar goal is a ballanced dog. It works.
nimlil 2 years ago
@nimlil
Cesar is not balancing anything, he is using dominance theory on almost any problem, which is complety false analysis of problem dogs.
And suppressing the dogs behavior does not teach the dog anything but that, it does not solve anything it only suppress the behavior, it will emerge later on, then you have to suppress the behavior again and again again.......
LeoTheHood 2 years ago
Cesar may get bitten occationally but when you deal with high level or extreme cases you will get bitten. As for abusive, If someone is seeing that then they obviously dont understand what is being taught. Just like raising children if you let them do what they want or get away with everything then they become hard to deal with. If you ever read about terriers, you must become the leader. You must also learn your dog and adapt your training to suit,Which is what Cesar teaches.
nimlil 2 years ago
@nimlil
His methods is abusive to the dogs, that is why he gets bitten, if he didn't he wouldn't get bitten, professionals who have been doing the same job that he do more many more years than he, have never been bitten, but they are not abusive, try gooling Anders Hallgren.
LeoTheHood 2 years ago
I have never met someone who if they are working with truely troubled and agressive dogs that are beyond help or been slated to be put down, havent been bitten at least once. But maybe I havent worked with the trainers you have.
He isnt suppressing the behavior, He is teaching them how to behave, and he trys to find the root of the behavoir. Just like a kid that gets away with temper tantrums, you have to teach right from wrong. First you get them to stop it, then you find the root.
nimlil 2 years ago
But you are right in that you should just not suppress as it could lead to problems. He does do that on stubborn cases but may not always show that on a show. I think if we look at any trainor people are going to find fault. I look at a dogs reaction and how the respond afterwards. Are they shying away, fearfull, cowering, or do they have confidence, do they carry themselves with pride, If so then I've done a good job, and thats what I look for in dogs with thier owners or trainers as well.
nimlil 2 years ago
@nimlil
I dont know exactly how many times he have got bitten, but it is many times, and when he know for sure what is coming he uses a muzzle, you see that a lot, a very large procentage of the videos on youtube represent a severe danger for him and any one else who attempt his technique, I'm amazed that any one can believe his method is correct, please watch the dogs, what you see is true, the dogs are very unhappy, and it is a unnatural way to deal with dogs.
LeoTheHood 2 years ago
Usually he puts a muzzle on to keep other dogs from being bitten. Not so worried about it himself. As for his method, I feel there is no one method, but many methods based on how your dog reacts to what you are teaching as Most dogs don't need this level, Rarely does it need to be used. But just as kids that are out of control with no respect or people who are addicts that call for stonger methods, there are dogs that need a bit more. But don't use a sledge hammer when a cookie will do.
nimlil 2 years ago
@nimlil Not if you are a professional you wont. Professionals around the world are rehabilitating highly aggressive dogs daily without getting bitten: unlike Cesar they know what they are doing and are qualified animal behaviorists. I actually happen to be assisting one at such sessions since a few months and I can tell you that none of the methods involved require getting bitten or kicking, pushing down or strangling animals. Check out Dr. Dunbar oder Dr. Sophia Yin: there IS an alternative.
Trovatore75 9 months ago
I'd also like to say that his method cannot be proven wrong. The wolf pack theory "studies" are bull crap in my mind.
If they were proven wrong then why do they work? If you don't agree with his methods that is fine. But its another thing to call him wrong JUST because you use a different method.
AgilityAddict56 2 years ago
@AgilityAddict56
It is not important what method a particular dog owner use training his dog, but a guy appearing on television have to use the best and the most ethically correct methods, and can not disseminate incorrect information to television viewers on dog behavior.
If he tell you can use the amount of pressure that is needed then you know that a lot of people will use too much violence, then I think it is better to use non violent methods, the dog dont get hurt by many treats
LeoTheHood 2 years ago
The methods aren't violent. He is not giving off false information. And the show clearly states that you should not preform any of the methods without a professional. So if you think that people will do these methods anyway and do them so wrong as to make them violent then we should take off cartoons because they use violence and some kid thinks its ok to hit another kid because he saw it on tv.
There is nothing me, or you can do about this, because is just isn't our choice to make.
AgilityAddict56 2 years ago
@AgilityAddict56
I fail to see the connection with the cartoons, cartoons are obviosly fiction, "The dogwhisperer" is very real, and is by many people percieved as educating, I believe we have to percieve his show as entertainment.
In Denmark he was taken off the air on national television, due to a massive pressure from professional trainers and dog psychologists, as well as the common dog owner, "over here his method is by most people considered abusive and wrong learning at least.
LeoTheHood 2 years ago
well yea he was pressured into being off air...when people feel like something better has come along they get a little worried and over protective of their lively-hood
cbossell 2 years ago
Thank youuuuu
AgilityAddict56 2 years ago
I don't mean only cartoons.. All tv shows and movies have violence.. And I was just trying to make a point.
And maybe in 60 more years there will be a more effective way of training and only positive, then Victoria Stilwell will be put off air.. Then another good trainer, then another.
Something new is always coming along, but Cesar Millan's methods are NOT abusive. You will not change my mind. And I am done trying to argue my point.
AgilityAddict56 2 years ago
@AgilityAddict56
I'm not predicting the future I am relating to science and facts of today!
LeoTheHood 2 years ago
Just because a few professional dog people whatever do not agree and call it abuse.... means it is abuse. Im not replying to anyone after this because it will become a broken record I would be repeating myself.... Like i said before If it was so abuse.... why do dogs know the language. Seriously they have Discipline and abuse all mixed up these modern days now.
Agelesslegend23 2 years ago
@Agelesslegend23
The few includes almost every serious dog association in the world,
try googling
dogwelfarecampaign dot
org
slash press-statement
dot php
and a Merry Christmas to you
LeoTheHood 2 years ago
Its called dog Languages I had said Im not getting in the middle of what your going on about I Use Cesars technique,s its called dog language... Im not arguing If he was abusive then why is he inspiring so many people and their dogs? If it was abuse he would not be allowed to air such a show! anyway Argue on all you like But I never had problems with any of my dogs and mine are Pitt bulls and Rottweilers. No problems.... I use his ways. I wont change.
Agelesslegend23 2 years ago
People need to stop thinking they know it all... Cesar does it his way... many do training their way however its now seen that Cesar ways DO work a lot. I'm a Trainer as well. I USE a lot of what he uses, JUST because someone else s training techniques don't fit into your judgment don't mean you get to start things you cannot finish. It sounds like Leo is aggressiv, hes competative and Dominant.... He may be knocked down a few notches either by another trainer or a dog.
Agelesslegend23 2 years ago
@Agelesslegend23
Why do you make the conclusion that because I don't like using Cesars abusive methods I must have problems with my trainer colleagues and/or dogs? why is it necessary to become "aggressive" (to use your words)
I have never said I know it all, I only speak out against methods That have been prooven wrong by many professional "dogpeople", and I have seen so many examples where he is plain wrong in analysing dogs behavior, when he can't read a dog how can he then treat a dog.
LeoTheHood 2 years ago
@Agelesslegend23
For example, I still do not believe a dog get bigger self-asteem when Cesar is lifting the dogs tail, but Cesar do
LeoTheHood 2 years ago
owed
noir0222 2 years ago
I am glad to see we have some Cesar fans here. There so many people calling him "old school" and that his methods were proved wrong. Yet what I don't get, is if they are "wrong" then how do they work? If the pack theory isn't true then why is taking control of the pack so helpful? You answer me that, and then maybe I will believe this whole "Positive only" thing.
AgilityAddict56 2 years ago
Google
Do confrontational dog training methods work? Is that really the point
LeoTheHood 2 years ago
Well dog training is not one method, its a variety of methods. So if it works, and it is not physically or mentally harmful to the dog. Then you should do it. That is Cesar's methods, A method that works but is not harmful. I am not a person who uses 100% positive, I believe a dog should have corrections. I use an equilibrium of positive and negative.
AgilityAddict56 2 years ago
I think everyone should calm down and listen to the original National Geographic theme
Velasca 2 years ago
Many professionals talk against Cesars Methods, just naming a few, Italian veterinary behaviourists, American College of Veterinary Behaviorists (ACVB), American Veterinary Society of Animal Behavior (AVSAB) and the Society of Veterinary Behavior Technicians (SVBT) the National Associciation of Italian Veterinary Doctors (ANMVI), Association of Pet Dog Trainers (UK) (APDT), perhaps all of these people might be right and Cesar is wrong.
LeoTheHood 2 years ago