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  • religion is dying it will die soon

  • It's clear that the original ideas in the Old Testaments were obviously thought up by outcasts who were very mentally ill.

    'Guess what,A bush talked to me'

    'Really!what did it say?'

    'I know lets live our lives by what the bush said!'

  • oh btw to sammysainblu or w/e the fuck your name is, my fave songs byt he sex pistols are I'm not your stepping stone, and pretty vacant fyi, Sex Pistols are punk, REAL punk, the exploited are not my favourite. But they are not bad. You dont know shit about me.

  • HOLY CRAP! my 2 favorite artists together! i accidently found this song, i cant believe it! wow..... this made my day :DD

  • one of the very few things that's good about the hip hop industry is their willingness to work together with other artists. i think it would be awesome if punk would follow suit, and it's awesome that anti flag and billy talent have worked together on a couple of tracks.

    Plus, it'll keep punk alive! Bigger bands need to support smaller ones!

  • chris2 kicks ass

  • I hope Billy Talent and Anti-Flag do songs together more in the future, I love this song and Turn Your Back from Billy Talent; they're both awesome.

  • Pretty good band. Im into metal and scremo, hardcore and death-metal, but punk is pretty good too.

  • it makes me sad really. i cant believe how people think that christianity is about homophobia. christianity is about Christ. and for the record, Christ never treated anyone bad, homosexual or else. im not saying homosexuality is a good thing, but bashing on homosexuals doesnt make a good christian. love, tolerance and understanding makes a good christian

  • I may not be a Christian (Atheist Fo Life)

    But you are totally right

    Christ him self said to love all and junk

    The Old Testament is what opposes Homosexuality in the book of leviticus, which also bans the eating shellfish and says u should stone adulterers to death, Leviticus should not have any effect on Law, stupid uneducated religious, make normal believers look bad too....

    Lalalal this song is awesome

  • thank you

  • @TheDoorsRule it also tells that sex is a potential sin,,, but how would the human race survive or live on, and how would christ be supposedly born, and the virgin may is supposd to be holy and pure,,, but how do u ahve a child without any sexual contact. (excuse my spelling erros)

  • @rumsaudomyandlash Sex is only a sin outside of marriage.

  • @TheDoorsRule Leviticus also says that woman should have no say above men in the society, and the opinion of a man is allways above a woman.....

    Yet people cheer for it.....

  • @2shae1980 Many of the things writting in the old testament were also said to be wrong by jesus... Read the new testament and then you will see why it has become such a celebrated way in culture.....

  • @TheDoorsRule  The voice over in the start of this is awful but isnt the view of the majority of people who would call themselves christian.... The old testament shouldnt be taken so seriously as many of the rules named in it were said to be not true by jesus in the new testament.... If there is a god and its all right then it also says its not our place to judge but gods. People just like power and religion is a way of legitimatizing it.

  • yeah... too bad he didnt exist

  • "tolerance" is just a nice way of saying that you don't agree with how someone lives their life. tolerance in itself is hateful. what you mean really is that you still are disgusted by that person, you just "tolerate" it by not throwing fruit at them and stuff...you are ignorant if you tolerate someone...people should just not care. i mean really. what does it matter if someone is gay or not? it has no effect on you AT ALL. If christ was real im sure he'd have been nice...but really...tolerance?

  • well, words these days, they mean different stuff to different people.

  • @Furbsknows , mate i never usuall post back to comments, but who is anyone to tell someone else how they feel , i dont like jelly but cos i know my sister likes it i tolerate it, which means i respect other's choices, its not an imorral thing to dislike somehting, the problem is when you tell someone else how to be or what to feel,

  • @Furbsknows tolerance is a right to your own opinion but not throwing it in other peoples faces, id rather live in a tolerant world than a world where we activekly persecute things we dont like, tolerance is a step in the right direction, dont knock it, the worlds not a perfect place but it'll be a little better if we all stop trying to make it perfect according to our own views and just tolerated all and everything, tolerance leads to acceptance.

  • i love how this band writes great music about like things going on in america and all that

  • Religion is just another system to supress free and good thinking. Mind, I have nothing against people who believe in god, nor those with certain principles, but I think religion narrows the mind, and in no good way.

  • Like i give a flying fuck.

    Still don't think they are gay. Whatever you say XxSensenmannxX

  • Theres No Fucking way Billy Talent is an Emo band. They are an Alternative rock band.

    The lead singer even says in a live show on osl that the emo has finally grown old.

    They offen say that they are tired of being named as an emo band cause they R not.

    Besides i don't think theres is an emo musik style. emo is only a triend for young sicklings who want's to sit alone in a corner and cry... they don't deserve to have there own music style.

  • and why do u think so?

  • wake up the town friggin rocks :D

  • Billy Talent + Anti-Flag = ♥

  • communism forever ? yesterday was 4th June ... check on internet what 4th June 1989 means for Poland (my country) and for China...

  • BTW the song's the best !!

  • That's the shit guis ! Atheism+ communism forever !!!

  • Communism

    Because thats been successful

  • THERE IS NO GOD!!!!!

    GOD DONT EXIST!!!

    atheist 4 ever

    ANTI-FLAG RULS!

  • YESSSS SOME ON ELSE DOESNT BELIVE IN GOD im 13 but if there is a god he made a shit hole world didnt he

  • It's good to be an atheist

  • yes yes it is

  • Yeah

    Being able to wake up at 1pm on a sunday is pretty sweet

    Also no fear of burning forever if we do something insignificant like burn a church down

  • lmfao.... he made a beautiful world... he made some dumb fucking ppl though... and for them being in his image... it's not very encouraging is it?; )

  • if there were a god why would life be so shity

  • for their entertainment.

    duh.

  • freaking a i know

  • because life is a school and school is shitty

  • alot of people dont believe in god. I dont because life sucks and if he was real he wants to see other people suffer. People who pray to him are stupid cause they are talking to no one and no one will help them. If you want something in this world you have to do it yourself, wishes dont come true

  • thats very true lol

  • only you can make ur wishes come true, nobody else can do it.

    And i dont know if god exists or not, but i know that i dont give a shit about fucking praying. Dont pray! instead u could work on the problem.

    ur right :) , good comment

  • what??

  • "god will DESTROY the homosexual community"

    FUCK HOMOPHOBIA

    may 17 is international anti-homophobia day - wear purple if you do not support homophobics

  • lol thats norwegian national day xD

  • wasn't this intro of the homophobic speaker used in another of their songs as well? Doesnt really matter anyways.

    ANTI-FLAG rules!

  • I <3 gay men! It means more women for straight men. I <3 lesbians! They makes great pornos! Bi-sexuals are lucky cause they have more choices!

  • I hate how ignorant most conservative right wing Christians are. Everybody, watch the movie MILK. Based off a true story, but some parts will anger you if you are an anti-homophobic kid.

  • tbh i prefer gay people to religious people coz religious people always try to force u to beleive even if they do it subconciously and tbh theres wayy to many facts out there to prove we evolved from animals not some gay ass "we just popped up" explanation

  • I agree. Well put.

  • good song

    but fucks up with the beginning?

  • its showing how anti gay christians are and how stupid it is!!

  • oh.

    wordd.

  • why is it stupid?

  • why is it stupid that christians are anti-gay? because, according to the bible, god loves everyone...except for homosexuals

  • where does it say that give me a refrence

  • well, i have never read the bible, so i guess its not from the bible. im wrong there. but isn't god supposed to be loving? to everyone?

  • he is but he has laws

  • yeah but i still see it as singling out a people group. i see it no differently than the kkk, although the measures taken are not quite as extreme

  • what ever i cant change ur mind but God is wonderful and he can change ur life

  • ur right neither of us can change each other's minds, so whatever

  • Only if you believe in paradox

  • That comes from different denominations making their own interpretations of the bible.

    you can make any book say whatever you want if you work it right

  • youre right :P

  • isnt billy talent in this song? sure sounds like their singer ben on the chorus and sounds like their guitars too

  • Yeah, this features Ben on vocals. I'm not sure about guitars, but it does sound like them

  • @BlackBandShirt nah i dont really hear ians  Fender, But can Deffinally hear Ben

  • @BlackBandShirt definitely Chris #1 on guitar... XD

  • they aren't new age they are old school

    but they are evolving greatly.

  • The band is punk (well new age punk but not that it makes a difference). and being punk is not about Mohawks and leather jackets its a state of mind I could explain it but why would I waste all that effort on a you tube comment

  • whats up with the quote at the beginning?

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  • "For Blood And Empire" is MUCH better than this nonsense

  • I'm just gonna make the comments here a lil' brighter ( the sex pistols were gay) this song is pretty good, but 'Turn Your Back' is better I think.

  • BlackGraze

  • "Wake Up The Town, Burn The Bridges Down" sounds like pure vanilla to me :P

  • if god really destroy the gay ppl so god is homophobic and every one know its not true if that was true god would dont create women im just glad anti flag are so smart

  • Homophobia is GAY!!!!!!!!

  • ben !!! love him !

    billy talent rocks ! and anti-flag rock to.

    love this song, =]

  • benny hinn is a caniving piece of shit that fucking hypocrite God will destroy the homosexual community of America bullshit. fuck you hinn alright homosexuals are the same as every person in this world

  • This Song Is Awesome!!! I love it!!

  • nevernamed, ur a homophobic fuck.

  • ROFL you guys are retarded. Sarcasm. Ever heard of it?

  • ha-ha

    and you're the first

    :D

    *ben the best*

  • (to the homophobic fuck "nevernamed")

    i mean...how can someone be so stupid?!...i hate these people! all humans are teh same!!!

    both blacks and whites.both gay and straight

    (ben is the perfect example :))) )

  • If all humans are the same, wouldn't that make you just as stupid as Nevernamed?

    Fallacies, ohh shit.

  • what are you talking about? of cause there s no difference. not for me . if you think white people are better than black or something llike that, that wouldnt be my problem. youre stupid!

  • I feel that whites and blacks are equally futile.

    Cherokee Pride, cunts.

  • kannst du nich ma deutsch sprechen oder was?!

    ...

    what is the sense of your equally futile?

    selber

    ..

    schlampe

  • I do not understand this strange language.

  • ha ! too bad :'D

    i feel the same about your comments

    this "strange language" is called GERMAN

    XDXD

    podemos hablar espanol ou nous pouvons parler francais wenn du dich nich ordentlich mit mir unterhalten kannst^^

    see ya babrook

  • WOW o_O' you're either crazy or a simple-minded dumbfuck...which do you pick? =)

  • FEED THE TROLL

    DA COMIDA AL OGRO

  • great song, love it !

  • 315116 =D

  • thsi is GOLD !!!

  • It sounds like another song of theirs.. It kinda sounds like This is the End, for you my friend. The part where they sing "I can never forsee it, I will never forget it". But don't get me wrong, this song kicks ass,

  • ben sounds great in this :p. i really like this song

  • LOVE IT !

  • is there a music video. ps ben is mine

  • Where can I get the lyrics? thx

  • Anti-flag bare own.

    GIAN 08

    Chris#2 singing on stage with Billy Talent to Red Flag

    Amazing :D

  • anti-flag and billy tallent FTW.

  • i cannot pick up the pieces with these broken fingers....

  • O don't care who thinks these guys suck I like Anti-flag, and mroe so Billy Talent (they are like my favourite band) this is an awesome song if you don't like this band why the hell would you listen to this song??

  • Wow. I was just reading random things about Ben on wikipedia when I saw that he sang for a Anti-Flag song and I figured it may be cool if he sang in it. And oh god, this song is intense. And it got be into a new band.

    This song rocks, and so does Billy Talent and Anti-Flag!

  • this.

    song.

    is.

    amazing.

  • awesome song...

    i dont get what people have against billy talent...

    sure, some people may not like bens amazing vocals and the intense guitar, but thats no reason to say they suck.

    and i dont get why people say negative comments about stuff on here, its like theyre so desperate for attention that theyd go as far as to annoy the many fans of billy talent or any other band or artist that has a video or song on here just to be aknowledged.

    seriously, whats the point!?!

  • finally, someone with a bit of sense.

  • why thank you.

  • the intro guitar sounds like system of a down or something hehoha. but its still good

  • i don't like the beginning voice (not the singing voice, the talking message)

  • well people who'd like this voice would be fucking assholes...

  • exactly

  • Hey, when he says "I cannot pick up the pieces with these broken fingers" is that a reference to the song Line & Sinker by Billy Talent? I mean, it would make sense because Ben is giving vocals on this song.

  • Maybe.. Nice thinking.

  • I'd never thought of that

  • Hey, can you send me this song?

  • Lol coming from the kid with a Green Day song for a name. We'll value your opinion./sarcasm

  • All of Billy Talent's songs are good and all of Green Day's albums suck shit. All the members of Billy Talent are far superior to Green Day musically as well. All Green Day can do is overused power chords. And also, yes blink-182 is better then Green Day as well, but I won't get into that arguement.

  • I'm just gonna go out on a limb and say every band mentioned here is kinda shitty, except Anti-Flag.

    The end.

  • or, just Green Day is shitty.

  • Well, Green Day has nothing to do with this, but Billy Talent does, so that's why it's been said that Billy Talent is shitty.

    It's not a bad song, but that's purely because everyone from Anti-Flag is a genius, and Ben was just told what to do by superior musicians.

  • Lmao you obviously aren't a musician because if you were you'd know that Billy Talent is far superior to Anti-Flag musically. I love Anti-Flag and all but they don't hold a candle to Billy Talent musically.

  • Lmao obviously you're wrong, I play bass and guitar, and Chris #2 has more musical talent in his arm then all of Billy Talent, obviously Justin Sane is as genious, obviously Pat Thetic is seriously underrated ... I don't have anything good to say about Chris Head, he's not that special, but whatever.

    Billy Talent has the opening lick on River Below, and that's pretty much it.

    Also, I don't think it matters wether I play music or not, people in bands aren't the only ones who can appreciate music.

  • Chris #2 is an insane bass player but Ian D'sa is way WAY better than Justin. You just haven't heard enough BT songs. Pretty much all of BT II is more difficult on guitar then any AF record. AF is basically all power chords with a few simple guitar riffs here and there. I can compare both bands seeing as I'm a fan of both and have heard a good portion of each of their songs. You on the other hand have clearly only heard BT's singles if you think they are musically inferior to AF.

  • I own both of Billy Talents albums actually.

    I liked their first album when I was in Gr 6, it was the first album I ever bought.

    I felt like I had to buy the second album just because I felt I had to.

    It was 100 times worse than the first. I still like some songs from the first CD, it's not bad. Voices of Violence isn't a bad song.

    The reason Anti-Flag plays power chords is because they're a punk band, not some sort of screamo bullshit.

  • Just because Anti-Flag is a punk band it doesn't mean they have to fucking use only power chords all the time. I know they do have riffs but all their chords are power chords where as Billy Talent experiment with different chords. And Billy Talent was influenced by mainly punk bands which is probably why they're such good friends with Anti-Flag. Billy Talent is way closer to punk rock then they are to screamo. Just because they have screaming in parts of their songs, doesn't make them screamo.

  • Punk is a minimalist genre, it's as simple as that.

    Power chords are the foundation of punk music.

    Just because a band plays predominantly power chords doesn't mean they're not talented, it means they play predominantly power chords.

    Also, I tend to hear a lot of piano, trumpet, violin, harmonicas and children's choirs in the new Anti-Flag album.

    I think that's better than playing a G chord.

  • Except for they didn't play any of those instruments, theyt were all hired musicians except for the pianos done by Tony Visconti.I don't think Anit-Flag isn't talented, I love Anti-Flag. I'm just saying, Billy Talent is MORE talented.

  • They still managed to write songs that incorporate those instruments into them.

    And they wrote this song, the best song Ben's ever been a part of.

  • It doesn't talent to say "I want pinao in this song" or "I want harmonica in this song". If they didn't play the parts I doubt they wrote them.

    Taking shots like that at Ben are really pathetic too.

  • I'm sure they did actually.

    You can write a harmonica part on guitar without knowing how to play harmonica.

    You just have to know how to write sheet music.

    And I wasn't insulting your precious Ben, I was simply making a statement.

    This is a really good song.

  • I'm sure THEY didn't. Tony might of,but I'm near positive they didn't. You can write a harmonica part on guitar but when you play it on the harmonica it's still gonna sound like a guitar part. It takes someone who knows the instrument to write a part that fits the instrument.

    And yes this is a good song, but it's DEFINATELY not the best Ben's been in. I'm not obsessed with Ben I just think comments like that sound stupid and childish.

  • They probably cowrote it with a professional musician.

    You mean 'definitely' I think.

    I know i can't change your mind about how good this song is, but you have to agree with this:

    With the possible exception of A Devil In A Midnight Mass, which addresses the issue of child molestation, this is the most meaningful song he's ever been a part of. And the thing is, Ben didn't set out to make a difference in the lives of people, he wrote about something evil because it fit the opening guitar riff.

  • Because Nothing to Lose wasn't meaningful at all, right? And all proceeds from that single didn't go to support Kids Help Phone, right? Ben writes plenty of meaningful lyrics.

    I never said this song wasn't good. It's a fucking great song. If just defending Billy Talent because they make amazing music that deserves to be defended.

  • Every band has written a suicide song dude.

    That's nothing new.

    Anti-Flag made an entire album for charity.

  • Lol, I hope you don't mean 'A Benefit for Victims of Violent Crime'. It had 7 studio tracks, which in total, ran for a little over 12 minutes. There were two tracks that were basically pointless, neither of which ran over 30 seconds. And most of the other studio tracks on the EP were old B-sides from FBAE.

    Yeah, alot of bands write suicide songs but it doesn't make the song any less meaningful. And do you have any idea how much airtime that single got? A dollar for every spin adds up fast.

  • I don't see how you can justify saying that Billy Talent spent more time and put more thought onto one song than Anti-Flag put onto an entire album.

    Yes, every song that addresses the issue is meaningful, but you can't get blood from a stone.

    I think it was decided a long time ago that suicide was bad.

  • Stop saying an entire album. It's an EP! It's an EP that they threw together with old bsides and live performances. Nothing to Lose is just one example. Alot of Billy Talent songs have meaningful lyrics, Nothing to Lose is just the first one that came to mind.

  • Okay, an EP is still longer than a song. You lose.

    Billy Talent sings generic songs about generic topics.

    I've heard every Billy Talent song.

    What are you saying, the Navy Song is fighting for the rights of sailors on Spanish galleons in the 1600's?

  • Not really, the only song that addressed violent crime on that EP was No Future. BT doesn't make generic songs. Just because they don't go into great detail doesn't make them generic. The way they write songs addresses general issues so it has a meaning but it can also be appreciated through different perspectives. This song's pretty generic too, it doesn't go into specific detail about the topic but you can still enjoy it and this way it makes you think what the artist was writing the song for.

  • I'm pretty sure the beginning kinda addresses the topic...

    But this isn't really going anywhere, so you have fun with your power-pop bands like Sum-41. Maybe when you turn 12 you'll start listening to actual punk.

  • and by actual punk you mean???

  • and don't dis sum41, he's 40 and he still likes sum 41 better then anti-flag.

  • Who is 'he'.

  • you know what disreagard that comment. I don't even remember -.-'. BTW I do listen to real punk SEX PISTOLS FTW!!!!!!!!!!

  • the sex pistols were a fucking joke, real punk? try listening to bands like The Exploited.

    The Sex pistols may have been different once but they are now just used so that people can say to others they are 'punk'.

    whats your favourite song? god save the queen or anarchy in the uk? do you even know any others?

  • i could list off that whole album personally

    and ur saying the sex pistols werent real punk

    they made punk what it was

    they mightnd have been the first but they were the best of the 70s

    and the exploited? theyre ok but it gets old fast

  • wow sex pistols might have started the british punk movement but the ramones started the american punk movement, true american punk rockers kno that, all pussy poser punks talk about the sex pistols

  • "pussy poser punks"

    youv clearly lost sight of what punk is

  • no not really dude, i clearly kno what punk is, and i was talking about americans who walk around going anarchy in the UK or God Save The Queen, cause they think the sex pistols are the only punk band. and the were all the patches and leather studded jackets cause thats what punk are "supposed" to wear, when their is no requirement to.

  • yeah they annoy the crap out of me

    i thought you were one of those people who think a punk band is only punk if they have less than a hundred fans

  • oh nah dude, a punk band is a band whos message is about sociopolitical ideals and all that jazz

  • The rest of the song really doesn't follow suit with the intro.

    I'm sure if you asked the punk community they would definately not consider Anti-Flag punk, since all the punks now refer to Anit-Flag as sellouts.

    Sum 41 hasn't been punk pop for about 5 or 6 years now. Listen to Chuck, all of those songs are heavier then Anti-Flag songs. This arguement is going nowhere because you insist on saying BT is a bad band when everyone else clearly disagrees with you.