Hydrogen HHO SMeyer Tubes / Cell (Triagular Arrangement)

[sirHOAX]

Sorry - I don't have time to debate with people who have no basis for critiquing my work. My time and energy go into these designs. If you would like to bash my work. Then please provide your own video basis for experimental evidence to prove otherwise. Please do not waste my time. Life is short, and there is no teaching an old dog new tricks. That is fact!

Zero tolerance for troll like behavior, based on potential patent pending rights and investment capital risks.

Good Day. --S--

[sirHOAX]

We have since changed the circuitry to avoid heat.

[fox20012]

hats a lot of gas coming out

[cphinc1]

No one seems to be approaching the problem from Stanley Meyer's point of view his patent is available. With Radio capacitance and impedance I have experienced A phenomena called SWR what I kuynderstand is a resonant frequency in air or water as in sonar does not create heat unless the SWR is very high in which case you get no propagation of the signal.

[WhiteFoot420]

ever consider thinning out the hho with the airpump & runnin a motor with it? after all, you only need to fill 20% of the combustion chamber with gas for a reliable burn. meyer talked about it in his inventions too you know.

[WolYou]

Cut down heat with air? You may keep turbulences going with the air pump, but air will keep the water from receiving heat (foam isolates). It would be better to move the tubes within the water instead of pumping air into it. Also the netto energy output is lower with an air pump.

[HHOCARCOM]

The air is also water vapor.

That will get you better engine out put.

I guess you already know that.

[mymessagetomark]

I think the introduction of air might interupt contact between the solution and the plates. Also the added gas velcity might make the water droplets in the discharge line a larger problem. I like the heat zincs though. Did you see the same idea on my cell?

[YiuTeub]

I thought about this too. Im going to have a vac line after the intake filter running to the cell and another at the intake manifold. Try it anyway. So it would be filtered air and not dirty. Also that would prevent alot of the issues people seem to have on here which is water entering the line being sucked in by vac.

[danratsnapnames]

has anyone thought that maybe we are not breaking apart water from 1 h2o molicule, but instead, we are forcing 2m' to become 2 stable h's and 1 stable O? doesn't it take two molicules to become gas? or else isant it just a molicule of whatever. if so then think,

h2o + h2o = 2h 0 + h2o = 3 h 0 + h2o = 4h 2o

the floating molicules are not lost, but are only in flux naturaly with other molicules of forien matter that is saturated in the water.

[sirHOAX]

Yes was trying to conclude this with a friend of mine, stating possibilities of the tube arrangement creating h3. Possibly due to the positive and negative having different size surface area. Because one tube is inside the other.

[sn1pe352]

Van de Graaff generators are described as "constant current" electrostatic devices. When you put a load on a Van de Graaff generator, the current (amperage) remains the same. It's the voltage that varies with the load. In the case of the Van de Graaff generator, as you approach the output terminal (sphere) with a grounded object, the voltage will decrease, but the current will remain the same.

For some reason I feel that this could be of some help. Hope you don't mind

[fabeddie]

Howdy,

I believe the best way to keep the cell cool is to put an outer layer filled with water..and circulate the water thru the fish pump on the outside...you don't want the air mixed in with your HOH gas

[skagitt]

Why waist the energy? heat the gas and cool the cell at the same time!

[sirHOAX]

The Whisper air-pump only consumes 4.5Watts @ 120Volts. So its really not a loss.

The air atleast pushes the gas through out the HHO-Cell. Possibly a good method to force the gas through smaller diameter holes for injection. :-q

Sky is the limit.. --sirHHOax-- :=)

[gagekko]

Very interesting sirHOAX... I was thinking about how I might supply HHO post turbo as I was thinking about utilizing O3 production pre-turbo... As you can guess, 6000 volts wouldn't mix too well with HHO. What do you suppose the pressure could be built up to with one of those Whisper pumps?

[sirHOAX]

Yes no one really discusses Ionization of the gases. Possibly seperate the gas with high-voltage charges. Or even force attraction? Not sure, not sure its even possible. Its all speculation on my part.

High-voltage could play a role regardless of electrolyte water-bath or after that stage, possibly further down the line? Who knows, its all staging. This is stage1, anyone can take it from here if they like.. :-)

Hyco+S-Tubes. Only way..

[fingers1572]

I think your barking up the wrong tree with that theroy!

keep up the good work though!

[sirHOAX]

Possibly, will have to run more tests to conclude this even further. If this was being used for home-heating we could be pulling cold air from outside to radiate the heat in the HHO-Cell.

Another thing this technique could be used for making gas vapor in a type of gas-vaporizer unit to extend MPG. In combination with the HHO-Cell, who knows.

[Alcyone53]

Dido about the air pump.

The air mixed with the HHO diminish the final product.

I found that by adding neutral plates or tubes between the cathode & anode heat ceased to be a problem & gas production increased!

I am in the process of building a 7 tube cell based on a "Joe Cell" & I will use NaOH in my electrolyte (about a quarter teaspoon per gallon). If you test the amps as you add to the electrolyte you can easily control amps/heat & increase gas production.

[sirHOAX]

Either way the engine on your vehicle won't mind the extra air. The thing would be to stage this. The first HHO-Cell would have the fresh-air-pump. Then that initial stage would get feed to yet another HHO-Container. So you could use this 1st stage to pump everything through all your other stages.

Would most likely work quite well.

[sn1pe352]

Combine an efficient "electrolysis" unit like that one. couple it with ThermoElectric Modules,making Electricity from wasted heat from an ICE. Vaporize/Nebulize the Gasoline For Maximum fuel efficiency. "High Power WindMill Generators for generating E from wasted energy off Tires. Solar Cells on Car roof..ALL coupled together with its own battery or ultra-capacitor could literally make a damn near 75+ percent efficient "Homemade Hybrid..and anyone and every can do it which is great.

[sirHOAX]

Home-made Hybrid. Like that idea. Keep brainstorming my friend. You have excellent ideas.

All it takes is the will and an idea. That is all it takes! :=)

[waynedavisband]

I agree with the radiator idea because,,,now the air being pumped in is going to affect the hho out put how do you separate the two with a sealed inclosure your air couldnt travel very fast into your inclosure anyway but good idea i enjoy watching your thought proccess keep up the good work ,,,maybe try adjitating the liquid like in a blender or washing machine just to keep it from being stoik sitting there boiling it would also knock off the hho bubbles from your plates.

[sirHOAX]

That is why I am stuck with the idea of trying to harness the waste heat for use in home-heating. The radiator would help in the production of heat in your home.

These are things to consider. Because it is clearly breaking up a lot of the finer bubbles and forcing them to the surface with the use of the outside fresh-air-pump.

[h2opower]

I too thought it was pure hho for a secound, try using a water flow pump insted, that way you can use a small radiator for the cooling system. I am going for Dingle/Meyer type of production myself. Keep up the great work for energy independance is a worthy goal.

[sirHOAX]

Yes the radiator idea is excellent. Will have to test with the use of one as soon as I get the set-up. Possibly pull the liquid from the lower half of the HHO-Cell so you don't pull the bubbles into the radiator. Might effect production, but again these are things we have to conclude.

[h2opower]

I made mine with two chambers the one with the SS is higher than the one with the water flow pump and it acts like a waterfall in a way. Plus that way I also keep a constant water level for all the autofill stuff is in the second chamber as well. Together we will get there. Just wish Dr. Dingle would give us a helping hand for it's been 40 years and he is still being blocked.

[jmoyet]

i was just about to say about using a small radiator but good thing i read the comments first so i wont look like i copied off somebodies comment.

if installing the cell with the radiator in the car i would put the cell radiator somewhere at the bottom of the car to close to the bottom of the car so it wont get as much heat during hot summer days at idle. and maybe add a small little fan to the radiator.

[supercabinetman]

Hi all, great to see all this interest! as far as being in a vehicle, could the outer body itself be metal with extruded cooling fins and perhaps cooling tubes which protrude thru the entire assembly without interrupting the internal components?

[tvryb]

looking good duuude!

sounds a damn power plant in there!

[sirHOAX]

Thanks, trying are best to break this thing in two and figure out its inner-workings. :=)

[czarwright]

good job, run away heat is a problem. 103 very cool. keep it up

[sirHOAX]

The pulsing cuts this down around this level. Otherwise even with the straight use of Direct-Current(DC) no pulsing it will start to climb with higher levels of Sodium-Carbonate, around two teaspoons in the solution.

Still working on getting this in order for proper mounting in the car. Heat is a major concern in the summer when the car-trunk is going to see temperatures excess 120F. When the car is parked and idle.

[cmwslw]

For a second I thought that was the actual hydrogen! Good work though.

[sirHOAX]

Thanks, everyone's comments are greatly appreciated. My regards, --S