Does it explain if Gordan helped with or did somthing with the Box trap with strahm in the water im curious as too what you remember i did see SAW 3D but i didnt notice anything about That because i was fixated at the ending which was amazing
@xSoLdiier09 I was so fixated with the ending too that I realized things were going before my eyes that I almost missed. They didn't show any indication that he caught Strahm, but that doesn't rule it out. I personally think he did.
@Aniland lmao i mean it was kinda alot to take in at once
an i also saw idk if it was your but somone thought they saw a figure behind strahm while the trap was going but i just did not see it at all im thinking it could just be a coininsidence but idk i wanna fine somone who recorded the ending so i can watch it again, although somone uploaded the sounds of the ending but that doesnt help alot ya know
@xSoLdiier09 Yes, I no longer believe that there is a person behind Strahm as the trap is going on. It was more of a baseless hopeful serendipity than anything else.
@Aniland True true although the pen thing is weird there is just not enough evidence an its not really important consideing he dies in the same movie but yeah glad it ended that way it did
btw you should add me on Xbox if ya want my GT is SoLdiieR BreH
SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! IN SAW 3D its revealed that dr. gordan was involved in all saw movies! he suggested the woman docter from part 3 to take care of john! and he wrote the letter to hoffman that said "i know who you are" in saw 5! WATCH SAW 3D TO FIND OUT THE REST
I think that your Idea of the wheel chair is wrong as you can see in other films that jigsaw is in a wheel chair before he dies and so i think that its from there,room as how would jigsaw get into that its just my idea, the Gordon idea is the same view that i have now watchin your videos, good series :)
I'm sad that Saw is finally coming to an end. Most horror movies are one-time movies with little plot or remade countless times to scare people.
But Saw was not like those movies. Unlike them, Saw has tons of hidden messages, plot twists, clues, etc. to keep the people guessing and theorizing about what could happen, as evidenced by so much speculation over Dr. Gordon.
This is the only horror franchise I've liked, and I'll miss it.
maybe the phone was rigged to shock him or maybe it wasw in his other hand.. i mean we know adam kept pictures from gordon maybe he kept the shock thing from adam in his pocket and slit it to jigsaw when gordon was tellin him he would get help... i dont know, am i crazy? maybe its in his other hand... i just dont know
ok so i made that post without listening to the whole thing cuz it kept freezing, but i finally got to it. so some1 was on the same page as me. and i also was wondering about the shock... because if jigsaw slowed his heart rate all the way down how in the world... could push the shock button he had the gun in one hand and the tape in the other.... i dont think he could have anything else in his hands. maybe a pocket... but then we would see him going to it... not on the floor... maybe there r 2
Ever find it funny in the first one that jigsaws face in the first is pointing towards adam.... also that in the second he uses amanda to make sure the rules are followed... kinda like in all the other movies there are people making sure rules are followed... amanda in 2, since 3 and 4 happen at the same time u have hoffmann... also art blank is kinda making sure rules are followed with matthews not jumping off the block... i thought maybe gordon was making sure rules are followed in the first.
when Jigsaw says "i can have ambulance in 4 Minuets " what if he was saying that Dr gordon is in the building and could of save his wife but not just his wife what about amanda
man i have one more.. i saw this at one of the saw series.. can you remember the venus fly trap.. the objective to survive there is to get the key inside his eye.. jigsaw let the player watch what happened to him 3 hours after that and the player undergo an operation.. as we all know jigsaw cant do that because he is an engineer.. isnt that interesting?
no hoffman is not stupid this is proof Gordon is alive because i remember in saw 6 jill left hoffman to die in the reverse bear trap but he countered it by putting the trap between the bars so Hoffman is really really smart and willing to do anything to stay alive and he know so is Detective Strom so he left him there to Die but since Gordon is the best student and his game was more painful and life changing he knows that ever body deserves a chance no matter how painfull
Okay I have another clue! at the end of the first saw gordon says dont worry i will bring someone back i promise. does anyone recall saw III when amanda came back and killed adam?
nobody loses a foot over a game! Even if Dr G is an accomplice now, he could not possibly be the accomplice before. When Amanda and Hoffman were put in traps, there were security measures for precaution. Amanda and Daniel were given the antidote prior to the game, and Hoffman could remove his strap easily, and the water was not wired to an electric circuit.
Dr G would never have cut off his own foot (even if the ankle was numbed) just to play out the game.
@omalor Dr. G was most likely not an accomplice at all during his game in saw 1.. But the when you think about it Dr. G was the only person who passed his test. Jigsaw despises murderers. Amanda murdered not only Lynn but Adam as well. Hoffman murdered a bunch of officers. Jill was left to give Hoffman the revearse bear trap but im going of a limb, it looks like it was set to murder Hoffman. SAW 3d trailer is out Jill's in a trap is G been the worthy 1 to carry the legacy get what im saying.heis
@jibby691 so throughout all the saw movies after gordon was out of the picture there were clues in every movie which does point to that dr. gordon is alive and we all knew that and he has been apart of jigsaw since after saw 1 because he was the only one who fuffiled jigsaw's standards dr. gordon is alive and the only i think we still need to find out is what made gordon become an accoplice we will have to wait in see. SAW 3D! :D
@omalor okay that may be true but do you remember amanda of course you do. she played the game and THEN became an accomplice. remember thr infamous bear trap in saw one? yes she won that and then became an accomplice
ok but everyone seems to be forgetting about someone else. Daniel Matthews the detective son who was in saw 2. He never dies. REMEMBER!!!! All his dad was suppose to do was sit and listen to what jigsaw had to say. He was let out of the safe at the end. HE IS STILL ALIVE. SOOOOOO lets see we have DR. Gordon, Jill, and the detective in saw 6. lots of choices for the killer.
You know how Jigsaw said he put Amanda in the NGH to ensure that the game ran smoothly and that the rules were followed, (and then he did the same with Hoffman in Eric Matthews' test) I think I've figured out why. Gordon is the only one to break the rules of a Jigsaw game and yet still survive.
So perhaps Jigsaw put Amanda, Hoffman (and even himself in Saw III) in the games to make sure the rules were not broken, since someone had gotten away with it once already.
Firstly i didnt really think Gordon was alive, but now i believe he is, it would be a really good storyline if Gordon was behind it all (hes own little test that jigsaw set him before the bathroom trap) i have a question, is Jill the first aclompice now Amandas dead? i know Hoffmans the 2nd but whos the first? or is it Dr Gordon?
I thought that the wheelchair was stolen before lyn had been captured, but isn't it possible that she was captured and then taken out in a wheelchair?
Maybe, but I think the other staff at the hospital would've noticed a hooded person wheeling Lynn out of the hospital, especially when she was working. We'll have to wait and see for that one.
also another interesting thing to point out is how simple gordons trap is, its only a cuff around his foot, where as the other traps later in the series are more complex and precise on where they are positioned on the body.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I saw a commentary on saw 2 and they said it was a very low budget movie, therefor the leftover wheelchair was probably used in the hospital scenes in saw one. that sucks..... and as for the pen, there has never been a mistake in saw. Like in the first one, adam told gordon to turn off the lights which led him to the box which led him to the cell phone, but think about it... if gordon hadnt "Happened" to show him the picture of his wife and kids *CONTINUED*
@armadda08 which wasnt jigsaws doing at all. he just replaced the picture. Using that as a bases, there is absolutely no way the pen was just "Left" there by accident.
gordon wnt be the next jigsaw,1st because gordon aint an enjener(my bad i dont know to spell at word),gordon is only a doctor,im not saying gordon isnt john's complice,butit will be really weird if gordon be the next jigsaw,but we dont know,because i saw an interview whit tobey aka john "jigsaw" & he said "jigsaw spirit will always be there",so saw 7 migh be paranormal...but anyway,we dont know if hoffman really died
@GODSMaCKVII well if you'll remember the saw's are all out of order, for example amanda helped in the very "First" trap which occured after the second movie. Therefore it would be possible for john/amanda to have tought gordon many things even BEFORE the first movie. I think they could pull it off...
Alright, if Gordon was there to ensure Adam following the game then why did Gordon cut off his foot? That doesn't make much sense considering Hoffman didn't have to shed any blood in SAW IV!
Gordon could have left the pen in Strahm's pocket so he DID have a chance to get out because keep in mind that the tape in the last scene of Saw V (the glass coffin one) was for STRAHM. Jigsaw was testing Strahm. How could he have tested Strahm to be an assistant if he was already dead?
That pen and kidnaping detec. strahm is probably done by dr gordon beacause how could hoffman dress up and down so fast when police is coming? another fact :P
First: Amanda, capturing Lynn, wouldn't have the strenght to bring her on the shoulder, so she put lynn on a weel chair! It doesn't mean that all the medical equipment is from the same hospital! But I agree with you, I also think that Gordon is alive and that he's Jigsaw's acompplice.
The only thing that competes with the Saw series in terms of intelligence and thriller is LOST and maybe Harry Potter, because the story was thought all from the beginning of the first episode! SAW RULZ!
Attention I have shocking evidence that dr Gordon will make a return in saw 7 or as someone people call it saw 3D ok remember Jill took a delievery to the hospital when I saw that I paused it a zoomed in and the parcel was for GORDON I am certain of this I saw g and d and then o and n which means GORDON IS ALIVE hurray
maybe gordon did help before and is now in hospital where u see in saw 5 jill visiting the hospital and delievering a package it could well mean the likes of medicine and stuff that was gathered in saw 3-4 the likes of amanda or hoffman could have been visiting gordon and being there getting access to medical stuff i have loads more on this therory but do check out my channel soon guys as i will have my own video on what i personally think
also amanda killed a person in her game, but was a junkie at the time fighting for survival. she may have felt justified, but when she killed adam she was crying. i believe she was following directions and this killing triggered her eventual bloodlust steming from confusion.
gorden may well have sent amanda back to finish the job (remember the note in the cigarette box) gorden had 1 bullet and while it did hit the target, he had lost a leg already and lost alot of blood. being a doctor and realising without another bullet he had no chance of killing adam (who was in a better physical condition) sending amanda back to kill adam would effectivly make him win the game.
No i believe that Gordon was being tested but he did was he was suppose to do he got out he got adam killed HINT HINT Ill bring help Amanda killed him she said ill help you so Jigsaw took him under but i agree he is behind it all
if dr gordon was getting the equepment from the hospital... then he wouldnt exackly be missing... and somone from the hospital would have proberly said... he there man.. youve been missing for a while... oh and your missing a foot! unless he went in with one of those pig masks then he would proberly get arrested! and he cant sneak round cus hes only got one foot! poo poo!
I've liked the idea of this theory ever since the ending of the first movie because the fact that Gordon's fate was never revealed bothered me throughout all 6 of the films. Hopefully Saw VII "reveals" his fate like they said it would.
remember the infamous line when gordon says "i'll go get help?" we think he's getting medical help, but maybe he's the one who sent amanda to kill adam in saw 3...amanda does say, "I'm gonna help you" (in the directors cut it appears that amanda goes and kills adam after a dream she has, but maybe the dream and adam's murder aren't connected, and if they are, maybe amanda was dreaming about adam because she didn't want 2 kill him, but dr. gordon forced her too. thumbs up if you agree w/ my logic
the ones i find the most likely are the medical equipment theory and the ambulance theory. I see everyone talk about the limping, and I think thats bs. Jigsaw is limping either because of his cancer or he's just tryin to be creepy. There was also a way out of wack one where someone suggested that when the pigman attacks strahm in 5 that its dr gordon b/c its limping. ITS NOT LIMPING! ITS CALLED FLASH EFFECTS. It happens when you overexpose the film when turning the camera on and off quickly.
as sad as I am too say I don't think we will see dr gordan. Due to legal reasons after the first filing. Also...one of the clips was talking about the 'limping' man in the videos. Well I watched saw I again the other day and when murtah ... I mean tap (danny g ) and the james (one of the writters) jigsaw was limping. So...it's still up and out there.
annddddddddddddd high five, i love these movies and wondered about Dr. Gordon after the first film, but this never clicked in my mind until now. I am definitely looking forward to SAW VII
Oh yeah, i had just noticed, right where gordon Had been zapped on the leg, was where he sawed it off, supposedley, it had been numbed, so it would hurt when he sawed it off.
I bet that doctor gordon needs to help jigsaw in order to save his family or his family died and then he decided to go with jigsaw something like that thats my theory
SAW V: (Hoffman) "There is another cop you should know about. He's smart and he's getting close. His name's Tapp"
(Jigsaw) "I know who he is. I want you to bring him to a Doctor for me. A healer wo needs some healing" Gordon saw off his foot and he is a doctor. Healer who needs some healing. In SAW Game Tapp has a key in his body. Only a surgeon could have done that. Dr Gordon perhaps? (The game has secrets about the movies that aren't in the movies)
@ladiplecharry, once again i have to point out that that scene is way before dr. gordon sawed off his foot.. it's even before dr. gordon is kidnapped..
remember gordon knew about what's on the tape, were the clock and switch are. And in SAW II when they were going down to the bathroom, they never found his body. Jigsaw must have helped him. And, he would saw off is foot cuz he has a 'sad' life.
and a detective, a psico girl, and a engenieer cant get access to that big stuff, also its obvious in fact that a key cant be inserted in an eye without a surgery procedure
never make a history accordin to a theory, make a theory accordin to a history, the vid is pretty good, but it is like pretty subjective and with a lot of imagination, i am agreed with the fact of the wheelchair and the medical stuff, it could be; but these arent main facts, the main fact is that gordon could be live or death, they never mention it, and they keep gordon's memory (his name) in all the movies, also the guy with the key in his eye, the main fact, he show him X-RAY pics, and o.o
Read this while you watch for it to make more sense... WARNING - SPOILERS FOR SAW 6
1 Wheelchair - Lynn also works at this hospital and she was abducted there... would have made moving her easier
2 People in their own homes have heart rate monitors, portable beds, oxygen machines and so on, especially if they have a serious condition such as John has.
3 Hoffman about access - he is covering his own tracks and framing Strahm which we find out doesn't work in Saw 6 when we see Perez again
4 Meds - In Saw 3 Amanda has a meds book - In Saw 6 we see that she was with Cecil when he went into the clinic for drugs - she could be revisiting old habits.
5 Last man standing - In Saw 6 we see that Jill is in on it so he could be refering to her since she also puts Hoffman in his trap
6 Strahms Pen - According to the commentary of Saw 5 - this pen was specifically built up to be used to escape a trap at a later date - be a shame not to use it for that.
12 Hotel being same hotel is irrelevant but it doesn't even look the same - walls are different for one
13 Equipment in hotel - Hoffman and Amanda are both working with John by this point, Jill might have been as well, we don't know how far back her involvement goes yet - It was rented out to Art Blank for about a week so the 3 we know are working together at this stage could have brought it in
14 A shock causing that much response and foaming would leave a serious mark and wouldn't numb
As an after note, anytime an original actor does not return to reprise a role they are filmed in a way you cannot see the different actor, which is used when Amanda brings Adam into the Saw 1 trap setup in a later movie. Lawrence Gordon is already in the room but is facing away from the camera. Cary Elwes had an arguement with the director and as a result has refused to return for any future movies.
Given that they don't use different actors and reveal it is a different actor, and the timeline would require the same actor, and that we have never been told a reveal, we are shown it and have to put it together from the cut scenes, having a different actor play Lawrence Gordon would not click unless we are told who he is... I don't think they will turn to the camera and say, "My secret assistant is Doctor Lawrence Gordon, he might look different, but it's really him." o.0
You are correct.. that issue has now been rectified and as such can no longer be used as proof it will not happen...
The idea of my "comments" not theories is that being set on a one track mind and following that one path blindly and making everything prove that fact regardless of how unlikely (not impossibly, anything is possible) is the wrong way to prove such a point...
Everyone is entitled to their beliefs and thoughts and all I have done is simply presented mine...
Yes I would like to see that Gordon has been a "hidden" accomplice all this time which would bring the series full circle and tie the first movie into its sequels even further... I also would like to see what further part Jill Tuck is going to play in the saga... To some extent I would love to see Hoffman come out on top with all he has endured, but part of me would also like to see him put into a pendulum trap like he did to Seth Baxter as a sweet poetic justice...
Doctor gordon isn't the close acomplice. The close acomplice is jigsaw's exwife.Think. Why didn' they show us what was inside the box in saw 4 or 5. Why doesn't his ex get creeped out by the will, and opens the box calmly and immediatly closes it the seccond she sees what is inside the box. I have a thery that she has blueprints to more traps and has been working undercover for jigsaw all along.
Stupid vids? He's clever to spot these things! Why wait? Were all excited and you probably have once said about another film, "oh i bet this will happen.." its the same as this. Quit moaning just cause you didn't think of it, i think its good were looking closer at things, its fun!
I have Watched every saw video and after watching this video that u made, every little thing connects... i agree that Doctor Gordon has to come out in Saw7. It just connects the pieces of the puzzle together
1. Where does Jiggsaw gets all that poisons and antidotes?
2. Where the heck was Dr. Gordon`s body in the near ending of Saw 2?! We only saw his foot when Amanda and Eric`s son were running from that guy (forgot the names) and in the beginning of Saw 3.
3. Why did Jiggsaw said in the ending of Saw 1 "Most people are so ungreatful that they`re alive. But not you, not anymore!"
I like the pen clue. Also thinking about that, i realized that when strahm was put in that trap, hoffman had closed the door behind him. how would Hoffman have had time to run around to the other end of that hallway, throw on the mask and cloak, set up Strahm's trap, get the little girl, and meet with the police?
Also In Saw 6, there is a scene where you see Jill Tuck leaving an envelope that clearly holds a video tape into the mail slot of an office and Angel of Mercy. Theres only 1 doc left
ahh the pen is a very good observation, John or Amanda would also know about tracheotmery whatever its called, and left that pen for that reason, remember how book wormy amanda got with medicine and all in saw3. But that can also lead an opening for Dr Gordon to give Stratum a chance to bust hoffman so gordon could be the last person left.
ummm amanda or hoffman picked up the lynn in the hospital, they got it there and the medicine was also from the hospital that we are sure Amanda picked up and could have gotten more.
i think your getting on to something with the pen but more allong the lines of the chance, we ee inn the other movies that amanda was setting up the traps she just killed them even if they passed the test, and hoffman pretty much just killed them by predicting how it would pan out like john did, so maybe gordon did put the pen there to give him a chance as the others wouldent.
in saw 4 when hoffman walks out strahm came in and a different direction, went into a completely different room and man-bear-pig screatched, sedated him, then limped back on his right foot. and by that time, hoffman was in the room where the little girl is. being none as a "hero" or i think it should be called "Douche bag award"
Great analysis on Gordon! You did a great job! I think Gordon and Jill are definitely working together. We cant forget that Jill is also a medical doctor (not a surgeon, true, but a MD nonetheless). I further believe Gordon is alive and "rehabed" like Amanda and thus carrying on the work of Jigsaw. You made great points.
1:14, shadow behind the curtain? See it anyone?
Icecube150 6 months ago
Gordon is a snitch, he didnt save Adam.
addzack11 6 months ago
the pen that stram breathes through is gordons pen
MUNGINDIBORN 7 months ago
it was gordon because the person who injects him limps to the injection
johnsonandrew424 10 months ago
1:16 Bacon.
SuperDipstick84 10 months ago
DAMN STRAIGHT MUTHA FUCKAAAAAAA
AvantChase 11 months ago
does any onne remember when the saw 1 when gordon had got the key in the emvelop? it was like he knew were it was without looking
getmomuny456 11 months ago
Hoffman is just bloodthirsty like Amanda he deserves to die R.I.P Jigsaw and Amanda
getmomuny456 11 months ago
good video :)
limpan2341 1 year ago
i don't think he was working with Jigsaw in Saw 1
kenchama9 1 year ago
@kenchama9 me neither, it makes a lot more sense he become an accomplice after the bathroom trap, after jigsaw helped him with his leg.
FlechFisher 11 months ago
Does it explain if Gordan helped with or did somthing with the Box trap with strahm in the water im curious as too what you remember i did see SAW 3D but i didnt notice anything about That because i was fixated at the ending which was amazing
xSoLdiier09 1 year ago
@xSoLdiier09 I was so fixated with the ending too that I realized things were going before my eyes that I almost missed. They didn't show any indication that he caught Strahm, but that doesn't rule it out. I personally think he did.
Aniland 1 year ago
@Aniland lmao i mean it was kinda alot to take in at once
an i also saw idk if it was your but somone thought they saw a figure behind strahm while the trap was going but i just did not see it at all im thinking it could just be a coininsidence but idk i wanna fine somone who recorded the ending so i can watch it again, although somone uploaded the sounds of the ending but that doesnt help alot ya know
xSoLdiier09 1 year ago
@xSoLdiier09 Yes, I no longer believe that there is a person behind Strahm as the trap is going on. It was more of a baseless hopeful serendipity than anything else.
Aniland 1 year ago
@Aniland True true although the pen thing is weird there is just not enough evidence an its not really important consideing he dies in the same movie but yeah glad it ended that way it did
btw you should add me on Xbox if ya want my GT is SoLdiieR BreH
xSoLdiier09 1 year ago
i love how you basiclly had the whole series figured out before SAW 3D
xSoLdiier09 1 year ago
SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! IN SAW 3D its revealed that dr. gordan was involved in all saw movies! he suggested the woman docter from part 3 to take care of john! and he wrote the letter to hoffman that said "i know who you are" in saw 5! WATCH SAW 3D TO FIND OUT THE REST
zombiedude1411 1 year ago
who you watched saw 7
tkworrior 1 year ago
just watched saw 3d. Gordan IS Saw's apprentice.
sicmetal 1 year ago
Doesn't surprise me. Everyone was predicting he is Jigsaw's apprentice. Before Saw 2 hit theatres, someone predicting Amanda as Jigsaw's apprentice.
eugene680 1 year ago
@sicmetal YES!!! It was Incredible
will320 1 year ago
I think that your Idea of the wheel chair is wrong as you can see in other films that jigsaw is in a wheel chair before he dies and so i think that its from there,room as how would jigsaw get into that its just my idea, the Gordon idea is the same view that i have now watchin your videos, good series :)
johaa 1 year ago
Hes wrong when he was talking about saw 1, Adam told Gordon to turn he lights off, not the other way around
iluvgrapejuice 1 year ago
I'm sad that Saw is finally coming to an end. Most horror movies are one-time movies with little plot or remade countless times to scare people.
But Saw was not like those movies. Unlike them, Saw has tons of hidden messages, plot twists, clues, etc. to keep the people guessing and theorizing about what could happen, as evidenced by so much speculation over Dr. Gordon.
This is the only horror franchise I've liked, and I'll miss it.
J0hnny0hm 1 year ago
Gordon didn't want Hoffman to live.
I think Gordon is the one actually giving the contestants a chance.
ChazzleWazzleDazzle 1 year ago
if he did mean that by dr.gordon having one foot then thats racist or something! thats messed up!!! lol
tyklay 1 year ago
maybe the phone was rigged to shock him or maybe it wasw in his other hand.. i mean we know adam kept pictures from gordon maybe he kept the shock thing from adam in his pocket and slit it to jigsaw when gordon was tellin him he would get help... i dont know, am i crazy? maybe its in his other hand... i just dont know
TheSaywho 1 year ago
ok so i made that post without listening to the whole thing cuz it kept freezing, but i finally got to it. so some1 was on the same page as me. and i also was wondering about the shock... because if jigsaw slowed his heart rate all the way down how in the world... could push the shock button he had the gun in one hand and the tape in the other.... i dont think he could have anything else in his hands. maybe a pocket... but then we would see him going to it... not on the floor... maybe there r 2
TheSaywho 1 year ago
Ever find it funny in the first one that jigsaws face in the first is pointing towards adam.... also that in the second he uses amanda to make sure the rules are followed... kinda like in all the other movies there are people making sure rules are followed... amanda in 2, since 3 and 4 happen at the same time u have hoffmann... also art blank is kinda making sure rules are followed with matthews not jumping off the block... i thought maybe gordon was making sure rules are followed in the first.
TheSaywho 1 year ago
when Jigsaw says "i can have ambulance in 4 Minuets " what if he was saying that Dr gordon is in the building and could of save his wife but not just his wife what about amanda
4398814 1 year ago
If u look on imbd under cast it shows that dr. gordon will be in it so most likely hes the one.
steelers1821 1 year ago
for future refference it's pronounced tranq~e~atomy
hollowichigo778 1 year ago
man i have one more.. i saw this at one of the saw series.. can you remember the venus fly trap.. the objective to survive there is to get the key inside his eye.. jigsaw let the player watch what happened to him 3 hours after that and the player undergo an operation.. as we all know jigsaw cant do that because he is an engineer.. isnt that interesting?
backyardboyzZz 1 year ago
Have u ever thought that Amanda brought that wheelchair when she took Lin?
madnutcase84 1 year ago
no hoffman is not stupid this is proof Gordon is alive because i remember in saw 6 jill left hoffman to die in the reverse bear trap but he countered it by putting the trap between the bars so Hoffman is really really smart and willing to do anything to stay alive and he know so is Detective Strom so he left him there to Die but since Gordon is the best student and his game was more painful and life changing he knows that ever body deserves a chance no matter how painfull
MrLordpain 1 year ago
In saw 2 jigsaw was in a weel chair that he could have got from the hospital. i believe you i just like to put up a good argument
MrLordpain 1 year ago
Lol u can hear some dogs in the background xD
Andymann9700 1 year ago
dude he is going to be in saw 7 and that he still is alive and is the apprentice
0oWOLFSTERoO 1 year ago
Great observations! :D Faved!
~Dr. Gordon fan
iLoveHeathLedger15 1 year ago
Okay I have another clue! at the end of the first saw gordon says dont worry i will bring someone back i promise. does anyone recall saw III when amanda came back and killed adam?
GaiaKnight1234 1 year ago
@GaiaKnight1234 and gordon sed "ill send help" and amanda sed "im gonna help you"
mizanin21 1 year ago
in the minute 8:28 you said where Dr. Gordon fucks your secretary in the motel you wrong remember she was a medical student
ChicoSylarVen87 1 year ago
nobody loses a foot over a game! Even if Dr G is an accomplice now, he could not possibly be the accomplice before. When Amanda and Hoffman were put in traps, there were security measures for precaution. Amanda and Daniel were given the antidote prior to the game, and Hoffman could remove his strap easily, and the water was not wired to an electric circuit.
Dr G would never have cut off his own foot (even if the ankle was numbed) just to play out the game.
omalor 1 year ago
@omalor Dr. G was most likely not an accomplice at all during his game in saw 1.. But the when you think about it Dr. G was the only person who passed his test. Jigsaw despises murderers. Amanda murdered not only Lynn but Adam as well. Hoffman murdered a bunch of officers. Jill was left to give Hoffman the revearse bear trap but im going of a limb, it looks like it was set to murder Hoffman. SAW 3d trailer is out Jill's in a trap is G been the worthy 1 to carry the legacy get what im saying.heis
jibby691 1 year ago
@jibby691 so throughout all the saw movies after gordon was out of the picture there were clues in every movie which does point to that dr. gordon is alive and we all knew that and he has been apart of jigsaw since after saw 1 because he was the only one who fuffiled jigsaw's standards dr. gordon is alive and the only i think we still need to find out is what made gordon become an accoplice we will have to wait in see. SAW 3D! :D
jibby691 1 year ago
@omalor okay that may be true but do you remember amanda of course you do. she played the game and THEN became an accomplice. remember thr infamous bear trap in saw one? yes she won that and then became an accomplice
GaiaKnight1234 1 year ago
dr gordon will be in saw 7 for sure
ItsMyCuriosityy 1 year ago
ok but everyone seems to be forgetting about someone else. Daniel Matthews the detective son who was in saw 2. He never dies. REMEMBER!!!! All his dad was suppose to do was sit and listen to what jigsaw had to say. He was let out of the safe at the end. HE IS STILL ALIVE. SOOOOOO lets see we have DR. Gordon, Jill, and the detective in saw 6. lots of choices for the killer.
nittimommy01 1 year ago
You know how Jigsaw said he put Amanda in the NGH to ensure that the game ran smoothly and that the rules were followed, (and then he did the same with Hoffman in Eric Matthews' test) I think I've figured out why. Gordon is the only one to break the rules of a Jigsaw game and yet still survive.
So perhaps Jigsaw put Amanda, Hoffman (and even himself in Saw III) in the games to make sure the rules were not broken, since someone had gotten away with it once already.
oddworlddude 1 year ago
i was thinking the same thing, about the electro shock..it can cause temp paralysis
dmar26 1 year ago
Firstly i didnt really think Gordon was alive, but now i believe he is, it would be a really good storyline if Gordon was behind it all (hes own little test that jigsaw set him before the bathroom trap) i have a question, is Jill the first aclompice now Amandas dead? i know Hoffmans the 2nd but whos the first? or is it Dr Gordon?
bobpearce1958 1 year ago
I thought that the wheelchair was stolen before lyn had been captured, but isn't it possible that she was captured and then taken out in a wheelchair?
trane1965 1 year ago
@trane1965
Maybe, but I think the other staff at the hospital would've noticed a hooded person wheeling Lynn out of the hospital, especially when she was working. We'll have to wait and see for that one.
oddworlddude 1 year ago
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also another interesting thing to point out is how simple gordons trap is, its only a cuff around his foot, where as the other traps later in the series are more complex and precise on where they are positioned on the body.
bowarrful 1 year ago
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bowarrful 1 year ago
"The bed might have been a strech" no pun intended
killgarra 1 year ago
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dr gordon knew that the (cancer-sick) jigsaw not there lie dead.
He has played in from the beginning!
He sawed the leg off deliberately!
FWaletzko 1 year ago
dr gordon knew that the (cancer-sick) jigsaw not there lie dead.
He has played in from the beginning!
He sawed the leg off deliberately!
FWaletzko 1 year ago
glad you guys like my idea
tkworrior 1 year ago
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I saw a commentary on saw 2 and they said it was a very low budget movie, therefor the leftover wheelchair was probably used in the hospital scenes in saw one. that sucks..... and as for the pen, there has never been a mistake in saw. Like in the first one, adam told gordon to turn off the lights which led him to the box which led him to the cell phone, but think about it... if gordon hadnt "Happened" to show him the picture of his wife and kids *CONTINUED*
armadda08 1 year ago
@armadda08 which wasnt jigsaws doing at all. he just replaced the picture. Using that as a bases, there is absolutely no way the pen was just "Left" there by accident.
armadda08 1 year ago
ur voice is annoying
Simms638 1 year ago
gordon wnt be the next jigsaw,1st because gordon aint an enjener(my bad i dont know to spell at word),gordon is only a doctor,im not saying gordon isnt john's complice,butit will be really weird if gordon be the next jigsaw,but we dont know,because i saw an interview whit tobey aka john "jigsaw" & he said "jigsaw spirit will always be there",so saw 7 migh be paranormal...but anyway,we dont know if hoffman really died
GODSMaCKVII 1 year ago
@GODSMaCKVII well if you'll remember the saw's are all out of order, for example amanda helped in the very "First" trap which occured after the second movie. Therefore it would be possible for john/amanda to have tought gordon many things even BEFORE the first movie. I think they could pull it off...
armadda08 1 year ago
Alright, if Gordon was there to ensure Adam following the game then why did Gordon cut off his foot? That doesn't make much sense considering Hoffman didn't have to shed any blood in SAW IV!
TheMasterofVGs 1 year ago
Gordon could have left the pen in Strahm's pocket so he DID have a chance to get out because keep in mind that the tape in the last scene of Saw V (the glass coffin one) was for STRAHM. Jigsaw was testing Strahm. How could he have tested Strahm to be an assistant if he was already dead?
iyellatmywookie 1 year ago
I think he's still alive, because what's the point of hiding it this entire time if he was simply dead.
JoshPahr 1 year ago
@JoshPahr Well put! I totally agree!
weirdalishot 1 year ago
gordon wanted to give stram a second chance because jigsaw gave gordon a second chance
psychoknockout 1 year ago
pronounce it like this: tray ki otomy
phantomofopera3 1 year ago
That pen and kidnaping detec. strahm is probably done by dr gordon beacause how could hoffman dress up and down so fast when police is coming? another fact :P
manaburn10 1 year ago
Hoffman didn't set up that trap. Dr. Gordon did. If you notice when the guy in the pig mask backs away, he limps on his foot
nadkins72 1 year ago
First: Amanda, capturing Lynn, wouldn't have the strenght to bring her on the shoulder, so she put lynn on a weel chair! It doesn't mean that all the medical equipment is from the same hospital! But I agree with you, I also think that Gordon is alive and that he's Jigsaw's acompplice.
The only thing that competes with the Saw series in terms of intelligence and thriller is LOST and maybe Harry Potter, because the story was thought all from the beginning of the first episode! SAW RULZ!
Crazyrfl25 1 year ago
Attention I have shocking evidence that dr Gordon will make a return in saw 7 or as someone people call it saw 3D ok remember Jill took a delievery to the hospital when I saw that I paused it a zoomed in and the parcel was for GORDON I am certain of this I saw g and d and then o and n which means GORDON IS ALIVE hurray
drwhoboy7 1 year ago
maybe gordon did help before and is now in hospital where u see in saw 5 jill visiting the hospital and delievering a package it could well mean the likes of medicine and stuff that was gathered in saw 3-4 the likes of amanda or hoffman could have been visiting gordon and being there getting access to medical stuff i have loads more on this therory but do check out my channel soon guys as i will have my own video on what i personally think
spooky927 1 year ago
you guys are all wrong. gordon comes to help jigsaw when THE GMAN LETS HIM TOO! dummys
mrfolopi 1 year ago
at 5:28 the poster has no foot
kewlkid182 1 year ago
@kewlkid182 no its walking and the sole is showing dummy lol
norcalboy127 1 year ago
you have some great points on gordon
knobylob 1 year ago
gordon didnt just limp into the hospital and get the gear dude, think about it, think maybe someone woudl recognize him?
theINsaneDK 1 year ago
on the wheel chair it says property of angel hospital the same hospital gordon works at
MegaOroboros 1 year ago
Great clues...I'm getting the six videos soon so I'll take a look at these clues again.
puertoricandude1982 1 year ago
ya know, jigsaw was in a wheelchair, jigsaw was in that hospital. Could just be that is jigsaw's wheelchair since he is in a bed most of this movie.
WoWrowrin 1 year ago
LOL!
you see the picture at 6:16? the skeleton-poster only has one foot! :D
oysteinre 1 year ago
@oysteinre and dr.gordon has got only one foot is that right leg right
mitjazupan1 1 year ago
You don't need someone from the inside to get the wheelchair.... john probrably just borrwed it.
brevkurt 1 year ago
i think i speak for everyone when i say
''I FUCKING LOVE SAW!'',
TheTM2sum 1 year ago 59
YES!!
victor3d8 1 year ago
@TheTM2sum wrong, i liked the series but it just needs to end lol
TheDraindeimo 1 year ago
@TheTM2sum Amen. ;)
iLoveHeathLedger15 1 year ago
also amanda killed a person in her game, but was a junkie at the time fighting for survival. she may have felt justified, but when she killed adam she was crying. i believe she was following directions and this killing triggered her eventual bloodlust steming from confusion.
mickaminusbitch 1 year ago
gorden may well have sent amanda back to finish the job (remember the note in the cigarette box) gorden had 1 bullet and while it did hit the target, he had lost a leg already and lost alot of blood. being a doctor and realising without another bullet he had no chance of killing adam (who was in a better physical condition) sending amanda back to kill adam would effectivly make him win the game.
mickaminusbitch 1 year ago
what if SAW was a tv series
tkworrior 2 years ago 27
YES!
TheTM2sum 1 year ago
@tkworrior woahhhhhhh i was just thinkin this yesterday lol
SAW : TV
GnRKiD2k7 1 year ago
@tkworrior
theres a facebook page for that! join it! if we get enough people it may happen
drummerkid904 1 year ago
@tkworrior that would be soo kool
smd544 1 year ago
@tkworrior FUCK YEAH!
crazysim9 1 year ago
@tkworrior it would suck
MSunflower1991 1 year ago
Gordon is the one getting all the medical equipment for Jigsaw. Negative.
It would mean going in a hospital. He would have been seen. It would be hard to sneak in a hospital with one foot and not be seen.
And he is still supposedly missing. I am assuming nobody has seen him since the first film. So I dont think he ever went any hopsitals.
But that doesn't mean I belive he's dead. I just don't think he's helping Jigsaw. I could not even see him be the new jigsaw apprentice.
shamim13333 2 years ago
how could no one have seen it if gorden was back in the hospital?
tobiaap500 2 years ago
No i believe that Gordon was being tested but he did was he was suppose to do he got out he got adam killed HINT HINT Ill bring help Amanda killed him she said ill help you so Jigsaw took him under but i agree he is behind it all
WOAHitsCAMBRIA 2 years ago
there are rumors that it will go up to saw 8 or 9
jabbathefat22 2 years ago
the saw series have a contract to make ten exactly
borrael 1 year ago
if dr gordon was getting the equepment from the hospital... then he wouldnt exackly be missing... and somone from the hospital would have proberly said... he there man.. youve been missing for a while... oh and your missing a foot! unless he went in with one of those pig masks then he would proberly get arrested! and he cant sneak round cus hes only got one foot! poo poo!
hedmuffin 2 years ago
Thats is so true. Getting all the equipment means going in a hospital. He would have been seen for sure. I would be hard to sneak in with one foot.
He is still missing. I'm asuming nobody has seen him since the first film. So I dont think he ever went anywhere near a hopsital.
shamim13333 2 years ago
lol "hey there man...you've been missing for awhile.... oh and your missing a foot!"
i actually laughed out loud when i read that
Sabakryou 1 year ago
lok back to where doctor gorden was kidnapped in saw 1, i think he know that hofftmen or amanda was in the car with him.
Andrewnub 2 years ago
I've liked the idea of this theory ever since the ending of the first movie because the fact that Gordon's fate was never revealed bothered me throughout all 6 of the films. Hopefully Saw VII "reveals" his fate like they said it would.
Xzashi104 2 years ago
amanda kidd naped her at the hospital so she stole the wheelchair
dutyinpants 2 years ago
the hospital angel of mercy is also where john's ex-wife works, not that where gordon works
wes1080 2 years ago
remember the infamous line when gordon says "i'll go get help?" we think he's getting medical help, but maybe he's the one who sent amanda to kill adam in saw 3...amanda does say, "I'm gonna help you" (in the directors cut it appears that amanda goes and kills adam after a dream she has, but maybe the dream and adam's murder aren't connected, and if they are, maybe amanda was dreaming about adam because she didn't want 2 kill him, but dr. gordon forced her too. thumbs up if you agree w/ my logic
HBhiphop27 2 years ago 2
the ones i find the most likely are the medical equipment theory and the ambulance theory. I see everyone talk about the limping, and I think thats bs. Jigsaw is limping either because of his cancer or he's just tryin to be creepy. There was also a way out of wack one where someone suggested that when the pigman attacks strahm in 5 that its dr gordon b/c its limping. ITS NOT LIMPING! ITS CALLED FLASH EFFECTS. It happens when you overexpose the film when turning the camera on and off quickly.
HBhiphop27 2 years ago
as sad as I am too say I don't think we will see dr gordan. Due to legal reasons after the first filing. Also...one of the clips was talking about the 'limping' man in the videos. Well I watched saw I again the other day and when murtah ... I mean tap (danny g ) and the james (one of the writters) jigsaw was limping. So...it's still up and out there.
thenormog 2 years ago
when he seys youre probably the last man standing he could b talking about jill tuck
Jake9966 2 years ago
tracheotomy lol
annddddddddddddd high five, i love these movies and wondered about Dr. Gordon after the first film, but this never clicked in my mind until now. I am definitely looking forward to SAW VII
dherobcal01 2 years ago
Oh yeah, i had just noticed, right where gordon Had been zapped on the leg, was where he sawed it off, supposedley, it had been numbed, so it would hurt when he sawed it off.
RHSSCHTV 2 years ago
I bet that doctor gordon needs to help jigsaw in order to save his family or his family died and then he decided to go with jigsaw something like that thats my theory
bullsandmilk 2 years ago
in saw5 wtf in the neck tie trap that women tat got her head choped of thats dr gordons wife it said it on makaing of traps it said her name
ADGkillface10110i 2 years ago
That girl was a fire warden... Gordon's wife is not a fire warden...
Wyncenuros 2 years ago
wouldn't it be funny if it wasn't dr. gordon but that autopsy guy from saw 4 and 6??
it would be like.. "Woah!! didn't see that one coming.."
but if it is dr. gordon, which probably is, i bet none of us who've seen these theory vids would be surprised..
takeru91 2 years ago
@Aniland, very interesting points you've brought up, but:
You're right about Jigsaw limping in the beginning of Saw 2, though in Saw 1 he put a key in a man's stomach for Amanda's game.
Also, if Gordon was in that Saw 1 to assure that the rules would be followed, why would he amputate his own foot just to make it seem believable?
2gud4upk3rftw 2 years ago
SAW V: (Hoffman) "There is another cop you should know about. He's smart and he's getting close. His name's Tapp"
(Jigsaw) "I know who he is. I want you to bring him to a Doctor for me. A healer wo needs some healing" Gordon saw off his foot and he is a doctor. Healer who needs some healing. In SAW Game Tapp has a key in his body. Only a surgeon could have done that. Dr Gordon perhaps? (The game has secrets about the movies that aren't in the movies)
ladiplecharry 2 years ago
@ladiplecharry, once again i have to point out that that scene is way before dr. gordon sawed off his foot.. it's even before dr. gordon is kidnapped..
takeru91 2 years ago
gordon had a 'sad' life and wasan apprentice already. i will give u the prof wen i get a keyboard -_-
ladiplecharry 2 years ago
no duh he wasn't an apprentice already.. what are you trying to say??
i think we're misunderstanding each other...
takeru91 2 years ago
remember gordon knew about what's on the tape, were the clock and switch are. And in SAW II when they were going down to the bathroom, they never found his body. Jigsaw must have helped him. And, he would saw off is foot cuz he has a 'sad' life.
ladiplecharry 2 years ago
i thought after scaring the shit out of adam jigsaw came and did that whole "don't be afraid" sermon shit to dr. gordon like he did to amanda...
takeru91 2 years ago
u mean the grateful/non-grateful kind of shit? No, we haven't seen it happen, so it might not have happened. Proof: detective perez
ladiplecharry 2 years ago
and a detective, a psico girl, and a engenieer cant get access to that big stuff, also its obvious in fact that a key cant be inserted in an eye without a surgery procedure
kenethsalas 2 years ago
never make a history accordin to a theory, make a theory accordin to a history, the vid is pretty good, but it is like pretty subjective and with a lot of imagination, i am agreed with the fact of the wheelchair and the medical stuff, it could be; but these arent main facts, the main fact is that gordon could be live or death, they never mention it, and they keep gordon's memory (his name) in all the movies, also the guy with the key in his eye, the main fact, he show him X-RAY pics, and o.o
kenethsalas 2 years ago
Read this while you watch for it to make more sense... WARNING - SPOILERS FOR SAW 6
1 Wheelchair - Lynn also works at this hospital and she was abducted there... would have made moving her easier
2 People in their own homes have heart rate monitors, portable beds, oxygen machines and so on, especially if they have a serious condition such as John has.
3 Hoffman about access - he is covering his own tracks and framing Strahm which we find out doesn't work in Saw 6 when we see Perez again
Wyncenuros 2 years ago
4 Meds - In Saw 3 Amanda has a meds book - In Saw 6 we see that she was with Cecil when he went into the clinic for drugs - she could be revisiting old habits.
5 Last man standing - In Saw 6 we see that Jill is in on it so he could be refering to her since she also puts Hoffman in his trap
6 Strahms Pen - According to the commentary of Saw 5 - this pen was specifically built up to be used to escape a trap at a later date - be a shame not to use it for that.
Wyncenuros 2 years ago
7 Ambulance in 4 minutes - he has a serious medical condition and some people are given a priority number for ambos in extreme cases
8 In Saw 1 John uses a muscle relaxant to stop him moving and giving himself away
9 Clock - Lawrence Gordon is a surgeon and is required in his job to notice things that are out of place
10 Lights - Adam told Lawrence Gordon to turn off the lights
11 At the end of Saw 1 John shocks Adam, therefore he also shocked Lawrence Gordon
Wyncenuros 2 years ago
12 Hotel being same hotel is irrelevant but it doesn't even look the same - walls are different for one
13 Equipment in hotel - Hoffman and Amanda are both working with John by this point, Jill might have been as well, we don't know how far back her involvement goes yet - It was rented out to Art Blank for about a week so the 3 we know are working together at this stage could have brought it in
14 A shock causing that much response and foaming would leave a serious mark and wouldn't numb
Wyncenuros 2 years ago
As an after note, anytime an original actor does not return to reprise a role they are filmed in a way you cannot see the different actor, which is used when Amanda brings Adam into the Saw 1 trap setup in a later movie. Lawrence Gordon is already in the room but is facing away from the camera. Cary Elwes had an arguement with the director and as a result has refused to return for any future movies.
Wyncenuros 2 years ago
Given that they don't use different actors and reveal it is a different actor, and the timeline would require the same actor, and that we have never been told a reveal, we are shown it and have to put it together from the cut scenes, having a different actor play Lawrence Gordon would not click unless we are told who he is... I don't think they will turn to the camera and say, "My secret assistant is Doctor Lawrence Gordon, he might look different, but it's really him." o.0
Wyncenuros 2 years ago
Start with my bottom post and work your way back to this one - WARNING SAW 6 SPOILERS
Wyncenuros 2 years ago
...AND, your point for all of these
numbered "theories" leads to...?
And by the way, that arguement has been
settled by Elwes and the movie
company - at this point, it is unsure
whether he will return or not, but people
cannot continue to use the arguement
as plausible proof Gordon is dead...
TheMadVideoer 1 year ago
You are correct.. that issue has now been rectified and as such can no longer be used as proof it will not happen...
The idea of my "comments" not theories is that being set on a one track mind and following that one path blindly and making everything prove that fact regardless of how unlikely (not impossibly, anything is possible) is the wrong way to prove such a point...
Everyone is entitled to their beliefs and thoughts and all I have done is simply presented mine...
Wyncenuros 1 year ago
@Wyncenuros
Indeed...
...but the question still stands;
In a basic summary, what does all of your
comments and entitled presentations
lead to?
(i.e. Gordon's alive, but not accomplice;
Gordon's not alive; etc)
TheMadVideoer 1 year ago
@TheMadVideoer
In a basic summary... I believe that Gordon may or may not be alive... I believe that he may or may not be an accomplice...
Until such time that definative evidence is presented, I remain open minded as to exactly what the outcome for Gordon has and will be...
Wyncenuros 1 year ago
@TheMadVideoer
Yes I would like to see that Gordon has been a "hidden" accomplice all this time which would bring the series full circle and tie the first movie into its sequels even further... I also would like to see what further part Jill Tuck is going to play in the saga... To some extent I would love to see Hoffman come out on top with all he has endured, but part of me would also like to see him put into a pendulum trap like he did to Seth Baxter as a sweet poetic justice...
Wyncenuros 1 year ago
@Wyncenuros
If you'd please, I humbly ask you to
go watch, rate, and comment on my
video on a Saw debate I am having.
The video is titled "Jigsaw: Man or
Murderer?"
If you haven't seen it already, please
watch it; I'd love more people to give me
their opinons, and I definitely want yours...
TheMadVideoer 1 year ago
@TheMadVideoer
Have watched and will be commenting soon...
Need to look up some information first to compile my theory on the subject...
Wyncenuros 1 year ago
actually he can shock adam without shocking gordan. its shown in Saw
Sabakryou 1 year ago
@ Sabakryou
I never implied that he could not shock each person individually. I mean it is clearly shown in the movie on three seperate occasions.
I don't know where you got that from...
Wyncenuros 1 year ago
oh sorry you said, "At the end of Saw 1 John shocks Adam, therefore he also shocked Lawrence Gordon"
it sounded like he can only shock both at once
Sabakryou 1 year ago
Doctor gordon isn't the close acomplice. The close acomplice is jigsaw's exwife.Think. Why didn' they show us what was inside the box in saw 4 or 5. Why doesn't his ex get creeped out by the will, and opens the box calmly and immediatly closes it the seccond she sees what is inside the box. I have a thery that she has blueprints to more traps and has been working undercover for jigsaw all along.
Mafia84848484 2 years ago
We already know this since we found it out in Saw 6, BUT theres one more to come so who knows who else is involved
jacks1bonnielass 2 years ago
Nice! Another great point!
ErrrrrrRia 2 years ago
why don't you all wait for the movie to come out instead of making this stupid vids?
marcitocosta 2 years ago
Stupid vids? He's clever to spot these things! Why wait? Were all excited and you probably have once said about another film, "oh i bet this will happen.." its the same as this. Quit moaning just cause you didn't think of it, i think its good were looking closer at things, its fun!
ErrrrrrRia 2 years ago
ok ok i'm sorry...
i'm just saying that doing this vids is not gonna change what's gonna happen in saw 7...i like to look closer too. I'm not making fun of you people
marcitocosta 2 years ago
I have Watched every saw video and after watching this video that u made, every little thing connects... i agree that Doctor Gordon has to come out in Saw7. It just connects the pieces of the puzzle together
Saracho69 2 years ago
maybe you can look at the hotel room numbers
TheGameplayer555 2 years ago
its funny he says merry christmas but it was alst year :L x
CJScootin 2 years ago
WOAH. You are a genius! also, your voice is SO SERIOUS! I LOLed at 8:26
"...to fuck his seceretary" LOL XD
PnutbutterandSMELLY 2 years ago
shit i wonder how u pay attention that much.
hongu2 2 years ago
@saw2 did Amanda know that she was going to be in the trap??
Pyanapple 2 years ago
She didn't. If she did she wouldn't have failed her test.
Mafia84848484 2 years ago
I allways wondered about 3 things:
1. Where does Jiggsaw gets all that poisons and antidotes?
2. Where the heck was Dr. Gordon`s body in the near ending of Saw 2?! We only saw his foot when Amanda and Eric`s son were running from that guy (forgot the names) and in the beginning of Saw 3.
3. Why did Jiggsaw said in the ending of Saw 1 "Most people are so ungreatful that they`re alive. But not you, not anymore!"
payu1st1993 2 years ago
your a smart guy how many saws you think they gunna make X
Darth1288 2 years ago
I like the pen clue. Also thinking about that, i realized that when strahm was put in that trap, hoffman had closed the door behind him. how would Hoffman have had time to run around to the other end of that hallway, throw on the mask and cloak, set up Strahm's trap, get the little girl, and meet with the police?
Also In Saw 6, there is a scene where you see Jill Tuck leaving an envelope that clearly holds a video tape into the mail slot of an office and Angel of Mercy. Theres only 1 doc left
cyrustheheman 2 years ago
IMO, the next Jigsaw, in Saw 7, will be Jill Tuck.
Reasons:
- As in Saw6, John asks Jill, if she understands the meaning of life or not and she did not bob her head.
- In the part that John was talking to Jill about he will provide her a choice at the end which means that he may want to test on the meaning of life.
May be he will give her a test too...Hard to say!
hehe :D
joe35443 2 years ago
@joe35443 I say that if Dr. Gordon is alive, he already passed his test and he will test her.
Plus, (do not read if you haven`t seen saw 6) I am very curious to see what is going to happen with Hoffman. :D
payu1st1993 2 years ago
ahh the pen is a very good observation, John or Amanda would also know about tracheotmery whatever its called, and left that pen for that reason, remember how book wormy amanda got with medicine and all in saw3. But that can also lead an opening for Dr Gordon to give Stratum a chance to bust hoffman so gordon could be the last person left.
daFranch1se69 2 years ago
ummm amanda or hoffman picked up the lynn in the hospital, they got it there and the medicine was also from the hospital that we are sure Amanda picked up and could have gotten more.
daFranch1se69 2 years ago
the part where he said "you are probably the last man standing" that was implied towards mathews.
TyphoidMonsterSH 2 years ago
In Saw 6, Jill dropped off an envelope at someone's office at a different hospital.
Clss09isthbst 2 years ago
i think your getting on to something with the pen but more allong the lines of the chance, we ee inn the other movies that amanda was setting up the traps she just killed them even if they passed the test, and hoffman pretty much just killed them by predicting how it would pan out like john did, so maybe gordon did put the pen there to give him a chance as the others wouldent.
frappe11725 2 years ago
in saw 4 when hoffman walks out strahm came in and a different direction, went into a completely different room and man-bear-pig screatched, sedated him, then limped back on his right foot. and by that time, hoffman was in the room where the little girl is. being none as a "hero" or i think it should be called "Douche bag award"
TyphoidMonsterSH 2 years ago
Great analysis on Gordon! You did a great job! I think Gordon and Jill are definitely working together. We cant forget that Jill is also a medical doctor (not a surgeon, true, but a MD nonetheless). I further believe Gordon is alive and "rehabed" like Amanda and thus carrying on the work of Jigsaw. You made great points.
ZMAN6340 2 years ago
I believe both Dr Gordon and Jill Tuck got all the medical equipment and that wheel chair from the hospital. Good points!
Shiphunk2 2 years ago
What if dr Gordon was working for jigsaw before saw 1?
TheLiquidFlame 2 years ago
hoffman started it, john caught him, they teamed up.