@peacetfo562 For a start would you take spiritual teachings from a guy who spent his whole life lying about alien contact to make his version of teachings seem important? Secondly if you make a fake case like meier there must be elements of truth thrown in to make it seem ligit. Don't you get it? You don't need meier to know spiritual things. You get it now?
Billy has created a little religion/cult there, hasn't he? The followers get really angry just like any other devotees of any religion. I think its personally all a mix of his imagination and things he read, after studying it for years. But you have to admit Billy is a genius.
@webfulfill No he's not a genius just because most people in the world aren't clued up enough to see through the hoax. 20% of any audience is succeptible to suggestion and that's what meier relies on to make his money from it. Aside from that people just give him money. Like Shirley Maclain.
I used to allow myself the indulgence of believing that some of this could be authentic. Thanks to what I've seen here and on some other YouTube videos, I can now say I'm officially doubtful this is anything but a hoax. It's a shame because I had my own UFO encounter and so very much want to believe we're being visited, but people like Meier who go this far to fool everyone just make it more difficult for a truly genuine claim to be believed. I fear disclosure won't be taken seriously at all.
Wow look at the fans of Billy Meier get angry in the comments. Ha! It is not as if his stories were ever officially taken as true anyway so it doesn't make sense why you guys get angry. If you believe it, fine. Keep reading his notes. No one is stopping you. Now if someone wants to debunk his "evidence" let them, whatever.
I love the skeptics and debunkers on the Meier case. They really just confirm his case even more. I really don't even have to say how it does, the people that actually study the Meier case already know what I'm talking about. Just all the information in the entire case alone should be proof enough but most people are to controlled from birth to think for themselves!
@elchonega If a flying saucer movie were being made today and Meier submitted his UFO footage (all of it) as an effects reel to the producers (with the aim of getting a job on the effects team) he would be told that it's a good effort and to keep on trying (but he wouldn't get the job). Just putting that out there.
@TheCrimsonImbecile Had he done just what you said at the time (mid-70s), he might've gotten hired, but not today with computer-driven special effects. His simple results were good enough to fool most of their state-of-the art photo analysis technology. Meier seemed to know to make an realistic craft he had to put in lots of detail, most of which had to come from various sources, such as parts from other devices, so once isolated from their original source might not be easily recognizable.
is young spirit's with no accumulated knowledge and wisdom...we call you the blind ones, who have eyes but can not see, the deaf once, who have ears but can not hear the TRUTH!!
i knew he was a fraud from the get go. Meet Jesus sure u did, got weapons from aliens, OK!! Hahahaaa crazy bastard acted like he couldnt make those fake ufo's, because he only has 1 had. He sure had a vivid imagination and hes ah attention whore.
mrmorlam, my question to you is simple Even if all the UFO pictures are fake, and his story regarding the alien contacts is 100% untrue, are you one to say that the overall message he is trying to bring of peace and harmony is not worth it? You spend much time trying to debunk this man's story, but is it worth not pondering the teachings he was trying to share?
Maybe you should watch or read up on THE SILENT REVOLUTION if you haven't already. it came out in 2009! and they used all new technology and try'd to find new was to debunk Billy but they STILL could not recreate his material. so the sceptics want us to believe a 70 year old man with one arm and with no resources is the BEST film maker, master model maker, photographer, digital and special effects, videographer, metal urgist, electronics genius, and sound recording engineer, and lives in Swits
most of the beam ship photos will only show the top half and not the bottom or the other way around. Its a fraud! They did a documentary in the 70's on meier and it really went towards his side as real, that was the 70's lets and our recent technology would debunk this case in seconds. Why no new documentary or further proof to this so called experience.
wow you people did a great job but you really need to look at the model vs the real pic and you will see many glaring differences. first the chromatic tone of the model vs the real ship on the original photos you see deeper shades of gray. second with the model you see much more detail vs the real ship this is because the model is close to the camera and the silver emulsion of the film need not the obtuse exposure, plus you should bring into measure billy never developed his own film.
@natdrip "You people"? It was just me! The "chromatic tone of the model" ..you sound like a budding photographer, unfortunately you don't seem to understand the most basic thing in Meier's pictures. He used E6 slide film, do you understand what that means? What you have said is gibberish. Also "Billy never developed his own film"...SO WHAT? Neither did I.
ok, Great job you person! I meant to say mono-chromatic scale hence I followed it up by saying "you see deeper shades of gray" So what you are telling me is that on both ,I am assuming more then one but less then three film roles were used all your shots were without error and came out perfectly? if all your shots came about perfectly then you are very thought out but once again I am assuming that you picked and chose what you wanted us to see because your shots weren't perfect(a)
(b)So with Meier there would have quite possible been some f'd up shots he would have been found out. for example the guy that developed his film might have been privy to this... No? But what really put the question to rest was the use of a microdensitometer to determine object distance and size from the camera.
Billy "The Kidder" and His Phony Cronies. We'll have to send out the Sheriff. Got a nasty note from LaminaDieWills. Didn't like what i had to say. So she sent me a very long letter. I was expecting it though. She said you blocked her comments. lol
This is the most thorough debunking on the meier photos I have ever seen. Well done my friend. It has always BAFFLED me how so many people can fall for such a hoax. Even at a small glance you tell these pictures are complete FAKES. I believe in UFOs, however the whole meier case is an insult to those of us serious in our research.. Meier's former friends have even called him out as a fraud, do we need more?
@Mrmorlam1 No, we should all be thanking you for finally putting this joke in the context it really is: a massive fraud. Meier's own wife has come out, like many others, and also admitted Meier's complete fabrication of this story. It's well known that meier creates UFO models AND grows miniature trees on his property. When asked of the many "trees" we see in the original videos, we are told they "aren't there anymore".. Who didn't see that coming? The guys a joke people, open your eyes.
Instead of beating around the bush i'll say this. Billy Meier made his videos in the late 60's, through the 70's and upto around 1982. It is only, in 2010, between 30 & 40 years later, that anyone can reproduce his photos and videos. What does that tell you? Using editing software? that wasnt available back then.The facts remain, that you could only recreate Meiers pictures, 30/40 years after they were made. That, in all honesty, is proof in itself, that no-one couldre-create them until today.
@LaminaDieWills It just means he's still a scam. That's all it means bonehead. Are you trying to say something clever? Scam... Scam... scam... Mrmorlam1 has totally dubunked "Dead Beat Meier, & his phoney cronies". Shut him down!!! And you too... shut up. Dead beat meier and his phony cronies. Dubunked and laid to waste. And for those retarded want to be's. Many willl be deceived. If you don' t have anything intelligent to say... than shut-up. And let intelligent people inter-act.
have you recreated the sounds yet?? I really want to see you try and re-create the sounds!!! with the same technology they had in the mid 70's and early 80's.
You had better be willing to do ALL of this mate, otherwise you'll be the biggest failure on youtube. The extensiveness of your claims of Meier being a hoax, has caused you to have to match everything he's done. 60 years worth.
Cmon you lot. start single handedly recreating every meier photo with 1 ARM!! I want to see you do it, so cocky with your re-creations. lets see you go through every single situted view, stance, perspective, and all possibility of it beng staged and set up...WITH 1 ARM!!!
I'll bet my bottom dollar it took you a while to make this model with 2 hands and new mechanical tools.
why dont you use what they had in 1981...and while your at it...DO IT ALL WITH 1 ARM!!
@LaminaDieWills Dude, how about you watch ALL my videos before making these retarded comments. I did it all with one hand and haven't wanted to bore ppl to death with lengthy films on how to tie a knot with one hand or how to pull a rope with one hand. Dude, use your mind. Everything you need to know is in my vids. If you want a fully filmed everything who the hell will finance such a venture? NOBODY.
@Mrmorlam1 Prove you made this model with 1 arm!!! i want to see you make any model, and re-create the 1500 variantions of photos and film that meier produced, not just 1. i want to see representations of every version model, in every scene, because if you call Meier a hoax, than youve got to match what he's done. Can you do that? If you cant be bothered to go that distance...then why come with a video like this?
now place your model behind it, with the orange lamp light shining on it. lets see your version because you insisted on filming with the toys, but you avoided the real car. cmon, lets see you juggle that model at those same angles as Meiers pictures, while keeping the trees, car and branches in the same picture.
and i say again. the man has 1 ARM!! Lets see you debunk the other 1500 pictures. and make sure you do ALL OF IT, WITH 1 ARM!!
@LaminaDieWills "Avoided the real car"??? What the heck are you talking about? Have you actually watched these videos? I took pictures of a real mercedes on purpose for comparison and the result is in the video you just commented on. Didn't you see it? I thought I made it as clear as day. Give me an email and I'll send you the pictures of the real mercedes OK?
@Mrmorlam1 no, Meiers photos had the ship behind the car....2 cars in fact, you only opted for a toy car infront of your model ship, making your version biased to your allegations of a hoax!!!
Put your model behind the real car and see if you can recreate the photo....you have to deceipher the truth in all variations you know, not just your own way!!
look at the difference in the glow. that beamship is a rich deep gold colour, reddish, orangy colour, do you really think they had bulbs in 1980 capable of creating such a light? gimme a break, Its 2011 & not even you can achieve the same model & youve got 2 hands & modern technology to make it. Meier in 1980,had 1 arm, 1 hand, no technology. very few friends. Are you seriously suggesting, meier made multiple precision cut models & took 1500 pics from all over with 1 hand? think again will you!!
@LaminaDieWills Er..yeah. The "glow" as you put it was put there using cgi on Meiers pictures. NOT MINE. Didn't you know they embellished Meiers pictures to make them look better than they were originally? Light filled etc, which is basically cgi. I used NO cgi at all. The films on scene prove that. That's why I show some of them. You want more?
@Mrmorlam1 cgi? whats to say you never enhanced meiers photos? because ive seen nearly all of meiers photos that are available, and theyve been tested by professionals. if these pictures were enhanced, you would see a dramatic change. Ive seen the exact pictures and their all the same as they were. But, ask yourself, how you got to be in the possession of the pictures you have. did they come from meier? if you say you got them from google or anywhere else, youre more a fraud than anyone!!!
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Ok, first of all. Have you confirmed these materials you used were available in 1981?
Also, if you look at Meiers pictures, you can see the precision manufacture of that ship. The metals are of different type and finish. The symmetry of each section is perfect. The lower section has 4 rings, yours has 3.
Your model hasnt even built the section the spheres are attached to.
at 0:37, look closely at the belly of the ship. You can see the reflection of the car which shows the ships true size.
@LaminaDieWills Shelf pins, curtain rings, dustbin lid...yes they were all available in 1981. It has been confirmed by others. Yes. "Precision manufacture"? Are you having a laugh? Look at the lowest row of balls on meiers. Follow them round. Is there a kink in the plastic? What section the spheres are attached to? I think you're "wishful thinking" and deluded.
@Mrmorlam1 If thats, why didnt you build your model with materials from 1980? why did you build it with stuff from local hardware stores and fckin Wilko??
When i said precision, i ment the symmetry in the lines, the quality of the metals, the size of the spheres, how theyre all situated, the black edging, thats 4 lines, not 3 like yours, and how each line is never out of place, its perfectly constructed. The belt under the spheres,actually moves because its magnetic.
ok lets say his pics were fake how do you explane his metal samples that cant be put together on earth and all his predictions published years before they happend FIGER OUT THAT ONE YOU FUCKEN JACKASS
@vxvxxvx the metal sample was tested by a scientist hand picked by the meier camp the very same scientist who said he could bend metal with his own mind, also where is the metal now so it can be tested by independent scientists and the results published for everyone to see? and if your saying ok lets say his photos are fake doesnt that then kind of destroy all the credibility of this case ???
Last but not leats when where the photes take and with what technology did Billy Meier used at that time 1970/1980s and your replicating to make it look real fake with what technology from 2010 duuuuh. Already in errror
Any one who is skilled enought can make the same type of pictures using models and make belief the real photos are fake you would not know if the orginals are real or fake .But if you take the time you would, but most people don't because of mind control .....
@Mu2143k Technology? What, an Olympus camera? That's what I used. It's EXACTLY the same camera as the one Billy meier used! So it's just a roll of film. Meier used slide film which is "positive" and gets turned into slides when processed. I used ordinary "negative" film but the result is basically the same if the same camera is used. Positive film gives a higher contrast, better colours and a sharper picture - but it's expensive.I'm poor and can't spend money like that.
Our systems is based on convincing people with magic words like scientific proof bla bla bla and people belief lies and hate truth. Unless you can check it out the science your self by replicate it without being maniplated and second your spirit always has known the truth and has forgotten it. It takes time and dedication to find out what is true unles your not willing to find it
Fear based Trickery and Manipulation has got us in this mess in the first place
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Here is a list of people who I have found that to be is
Bill Deagle
Alex Collier
Miriam Delicado
Jessica Mystic
George green
Convincing people that other people are frauds is not the right way and you ask your self why?Because people have to discen them self others they can always blame it on others.
The only way thing going to work if every one took the responsibility them self and stop trying to control other spirits/life
@Mu2143k GEORGE GREEN??!! ARE YOU KIDDING?? HE'S A CONMAN WHO MAKES MILLIONS OUT OF THE LIKES OF YOU! He provided the funds for the Meier videos made by genesis 3 and he's a profit maker! He'll sell you anything if you will buy it.
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@Mrmorlam1 It does not matter they the PTB can even set some one up who does not make a profit and still fool you. Like I said, you going to have to discern using the spirit.
His message and videos are for free, but he sells book and the message for us are for free in PDF form and the book you pay the cost of printem them plus shipping.
The rest of the books you pay normal prices, so even if he did not do all of the business would then have belieft him?? so again it proofs nothing
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I no longer follow the Billy Meier case since there are no update and George Green has really step in the fill in the gap ,but he is more focused on the economy then the spiritual side of it. It took a while to dicern if he is trued full by heart, but you still have to connect the dots your self. You have to understand what he is saying and not just belief what he is saying. This is because he could not have the full story all by him self. There are more people who I know are truth full by heart
@Mu2143k Excuse me but the meier case is out there because it makes alot of MONEY! You understand this? I notice that since my material is on youtube for free I'm not getting hate mail complaining that I'm making money! I am not making money but meier and horn and george green are making plenty from gullible types like yourself! You understand this?
This is the same system the illuminati uses to make you belief a lie. They have been using the same trickery to make you belief some one else instead of you your self so your confused. Don't look to others for your answers, but look for the questions. Because you have always known the answers!! This is a form of Mind control to program you nothing new. They used this on TV long a go to make you belief ET did not exist. If some tells you something or show you something does not mean it is true
@Mu2143k Dude just look at meier's "landed ship" photo and see that it is a warped plastic model. It wobbles on film in the wind and bobs because it is suspended from a bendy tree branch. Meier's material has shown itself to be the maximum amount a guy with one arm could do and no more. Notice he doesn't film them landing. His films are contrived to fool you into believing so you will spend your money on the material. The meier case is out there to make money!
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@Mrmorlam1 Look first in Billy Meiers story is already an old one in the UFO cases , what has been happening over the years is that it has been hijack to confuse you by Horn. Second there only can make money if there is no free information and your willling to pay for it, in this case I never paid for any videos or info. 3th making your own video and models that look like the orignal photos of Billy Meier is no proof nor other then you can make great sci movies.
@Mu2143k Hey are you Billy? Or are you just retarded enough to believe that advanced beings from space thought this HICK in the middle of nowhere was special enough to put on flying shows for, and have him step aboard a spacecraft. Wow, NIGERIANS would love you! You are a born SUCKER! You are so far gone & brainwashed so badly, you can't even accept reality. You put so much stock into one mans lie, you would probably kill yourself if you thought about how much of a punk, sucker, you really are!
@vulcanus30 Yes it is quite important. BUT, and here's the real issue: You ned EXACTLY the same film camera as Meier to remake it. I don't have the camera nor could I afford to buy it, nor can I get the 8mm film required for it. So that's the problem. If Meier will lend me his fim camera then great. I'll do it again. Otherwise we're stuck!
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@Mrmorlam1 here's the real issue - the WCUFO and tree video..... is a video and just not - not a film! - you need to know the difference between the two - as patently you dont!
so therefore on this point above - you are either lying (i.e. indulging in some far gone complete BS) - or your basically just clueless - i.e. not in the know as to what was precisely used in this respect - would you like me to tell you the precise VIDEO camera it was shot on?!
@vulcanus30 I only wish my camera would zoom while filming but it won't like so many other cheap cameras. I'm not going to buy one just to take that film! I'm unemployed and totally skint! What I've done this past year has cost me about £400 and I shouldn't have spent it but when you've got Michael Horn on your tail you have to come up with something! If someone can lend me one I'll glady remake it because I've got a wcufo model sitting in a cupboard gathering dust that looks the nuts!
Michael Horn is a complete f***ing idot! I emailed him with links of your work and he still denies meier is a fraud! I want to take that mothership model and shuv it up his arse, great work though!! A+
@musicman2047 LOL!!! Double lol! Great comment man. I'd love to see that! Horn is a salesman through and through and will NEVER give up his favourite UFO case. Can you imagine if he said "yeah, sorry everyone, it's all bollocks." lol.
So if this is alll a hoax then where does that leave the teachings of the spirit . the most important part of all of this ???
peacetfo562 1 month ago
@peacetfo562 For a start would you take spiritual teachings from a guy who spent his whole life lying about alien contact to make his version of teachings seem important? Secondly if you make a fake case like meier there must be elements of truth thrown in to make it seem ligit. Don't you get it? You don't need meier to know spiritual things. You get it now?
Mrmorlam1 1 month ago
what song is this?
guineapiggyman 2 months ago
@guineapiggyman "Spirals in Hyperspace" by Ozric Tentacles. They're on youtube.
Mrmorlam1 1 month ago
Billy has created a little religion/cult there, hasn't he? The followers get really angry just like any other devotees of any religion. I think its personally all a mix of his imagination and things he read, after studying it for years. But you have to admit Billy is a genius.
webfulfill 2 months ago
@webfulfill No he's not a genius just because most people in the world aren't clued up enough to see through the hoax. 20% of any audience is succeptible to suggestion and that's what meier relies on to make his money from it. Aside from that people just give him money. Like Shirley Maclain.
Mrmorlam1 1 month ago
I used to allow myself the indulgence of believing that some of this could be authentic. Thanks to what I've seen here and on some other YouTube videos, I can now say I'm officially doubtful this is anything but a hoax. It's a shame because I had my own UFO encounter and so very much want to believe we're being visited, but people like Meier who go this far to fool everyone just make it more difficult for a truly genuine claim to be believed. I fear disclosure won't be taken seriously at all.
cxoswingdriver1 5 months ago
@cxoswingdriver1 Correctamundo!
Mrmorlam1 1 month ago
I think the craft is controlled by 2 inch aliens, coming from the planet Hoox.
gwooldrik1 5 months ago in playlist Meer video's van Mrmorlam1
@gwooldrik1 LOL
Mrmorlam1 1 month ago
Wow look at the fans of Billy Meier get angry in the comments. Ha! It is not as if his stories were ever officially taken as true anyway so it doesn't make sense why you guys get angry. If you believe it, fine. Keep reading his notes. No one is stopping you. Now if someone wants to debunk his "evidence" let them, whatever.
StopFear 7 months ago 6
I love the skeptics and debunkers on the Meier case. They really just confirm his case even more. I really don't even have to say how it does, the people that actually study the Meier case already know what I'm talking about. Just all the information in the entire case alone should be proof enough but most people are to controlled from birth to think for themselves!
blueleaftbc 9 months ago
this is great i could go on about how fake billy's evidence is but i have better things to do awesome job!
boyblue219 9 months ago 2
@amutimer
Congratulations on letting this bonehead do your thinking for you.
tommytomted44 10 months ago
And the movie where the ship move the three when flay fast over? Do u remember what? Billy Meier Is not a fake.
elchonega 10 months ago
@elchonega the man grew miniature trees
TheCrimsonImbecile 7 months ago 2
@TheCrimsonImbecile suuure. of course, nobody found any fraud in his epoch and you are going to know it now. Ja!
elchonega 7 months ago
@elchonega you're absolutely right, i don't know what i was thinking. Perhaps i'm insane or something.
TheCrimsonImbecile 7 months ago
@elchonega If a flying saucer movie were being made today and Meier submitted his UFO footage (all of it) as an effects reel to the producers (with the aim of getting a job on the effects team) he would be told that it's a good effort and to keep on trying (but he wouldn't get the job). Just putting that out there.
TheCrimsonImbecile 7 months ago 3
@TheCrimsonImbecile Had he done just what you said at the time (mid-70s), he might've gotten hired, but not today with computer-driven special effects. His simple results were good enough to fool most of their state-of-the art photo analysis technology. Meier seemed to know to make an realistic craft he had to put in lots of detail, most of which had to come from various sources, such as parts from other devices, so once isolated from their original source might not be easily recognizable.
cxoswingdriver1 5 months ago
This is a load of crap, and a complete waste of time. You are not worthy enough to carrying Billy Meier's bags.
tommytomted44 10 months ago
@tommytomted44 billy meier is a liar and a hoaxer, proven, all his "ufo's" are models , ffs he even grew small trees for his hoaxes,
and as for the bin lid and ball bearings, anyone who believes that bull shit is an idiot
CHASCHARLTON 10 months ago
@CHASCHARLTON
Proven by who? You? I don't think so. Show me your proof. You can't. All you can do is point to some clueless boneheads stupid video!
tommytomted44 10 months ago
@tommytomted44 Proven by logic and common sense, if you want to believe in fairy tails that's up to you.:)
CHASCHARLTON 10 months ago
hahahahaha you guys, clap clap! haha
all you are,
is young spirit's with no accumulated knowledge and wisdom...we call you the blind ones, who have eyes but can not see, the deaf once, who have ears but can not hear the TRUTH!!
imamovic2 11 months ago
If I was Billy I'd say the overall outcome was successful haha sleep on it and think...
johnydubz 11 months ago
i knew he was a fraud from the get go. Meet Jesus sure u did, got weapons from aliens, OK!! Hahahaaa crazy bastard acted like he couldnt make those fake ufo's, because he only has 1 had. He sure had a vivid imagination and hes ah attention whore.
OGHITMAN187562 11 months ago
mrmorlam, my question to you is simple Even if all the UFO pictures are fake, and his story regarding the alien contacts is 100% untrue, are you one to say that the overall message he is trying to bring of peace and harmony is not worth it? You spend much time trying to debunk this man's story, but is it worth not pondering the teachings he was trying to share?
hmmmu2ic 1 year ago
Maybe you should watch or read up on THE SILENT REVOLUTION if you haven't already. it came out in 2009! and they used all new technology and try'd to find new was to debunk Billy but they STILL could not recreate his material. so the sceptics want us to believe a 70 year old man with one arm and with no resources is the BEST film maker, master model maker, photographer, digital and special effects, videographer, metal urgist, electronics genius, and sound recording engineer, and lives in Swits
09TS69 1 year ago
..and btw..7 pepole are "believers"
psychonaut25 1 year ago
Billy Meier made the biggest fool only from himself.
psychonaut25 1 year ago
most of the beam ship photos will only show the top half and not the bottom or the other way around. Its a fraud! They did a documentary in the 70's on meier and it really went towards his side as real, that was the 70's lets and our recent technology would debunk this case in seconds. Why no new documentary or further proof to this so called experience.
electronicmedium 1 year ago
wow you people did a great job but you really need to look at the model vs the real pic and you will see many glaring differences. first the chromatic tone of the model vs the real ship on the original photos you see deeper shades of gray. second with the model you see much more detail vs the real ship this is because the model is close to the camera and the silver emulsion of the film need not the obtuse exposure, plus you should bring into measure billy never developed his own film.
natdrip 1 year ago
@natdrip "You people"? It was just me! The "chromatic tone of the model" ..you sound like a budding photographer, unfortunately you don't seem to understand the most basic thing in Meier's pictures. He used E6 slide film, do you understand what that means? What you have said is gibberish. Also "Billy never developed his own film"...SO WHAT? Neither did I.
Mrmorlam1 1 year ago
@Mrmorlam1
ok, Great job you person! I meant to say mono-chromatic scale hence I followed it up by saying "you see deeper shades of gray" So what you are telling me is that on both ,I am assuming more then one but less then three film roles were used all your shots were without error and came out perfectly? if all your shots came about perfectly then you are very thought out but once again I am assuming that you picked and chose what you wanted us to see because your shots weren't perfect(a)
natdrip 1 year ago
@Mrmorlam1
(b)So with Meier there would have quite possible been some f'd up shots he would have been found out. for example the guy that developed his film might have been privy to this... No? But what really put the question to rest was the use of a microdensitometer to determine object distance and size from the camera.
natdrip 1 year ago
Billy "The Kidder" and His Phony Cronies. We'll have to send out the Sheriff. Got a nasty note from LaminaDieWills. Didn't like what i had to say. So she sent me a very long letter. I was expecting it though. She said you blocked her comments. lol
Alnes3 1 year ago
Busted!
Alnes3 1 year ago
BTW... if i didn't know better....
You were the guy that "dead beat meier", and his "phony cronies" hired to set up the ufo invasion.
It's good to do good. And even better with disclosure mate.
Liars are going down. And truthers are on the rise....
Good show brother... truther...
Alnes3 1 year ago
This is the most thorough debunking on the meier photos I have ever seen. Well done my friend. It has always BAFFLED me how so many people can fall for such a hoax. Even at a small glance you tell these pictures are complete FAKES. I believe in UFOs, however the whole meier case is an insult to those of us serious in our research.. Meier's former friends have even called him out as a fraud, do we need more?
maple2609 1 year ago 5
@maple2609 Thanks man. I really appreciate someone like you dropping by. You're spot on btw.
Mrmorlam1 1 year ago
@Mrmorlam1 No, we should all be thanking you for finally putting this joke in the context it really is: a massive fraud. Meier's own wife has come out, like many others, and also admitted Meier's complete fabrication of this story. It's well known that meier creates UFO models AND grows miniature trees on his property. When asked of the many "trees" we see in the original videos, we are told they "aren't there anymore".. Who didn't see that coming? The guys a joke people, open your eyes.
maple2609 1 year ago
@maple2609 well said. i caught that too.
Alnes3 1 year ago
@maple2609
Ya, I'm afraid we do need more. For everyone who calls this a hoax there is someone who says it's real.
tommytomted44 10 months ago
Instead of beating around the bush i'll say this. Billy Meier made his videos in the late 60's, through the 70's and upto around 1982. It is only, in 2010, between 30 & 40 years later, that anyone can reproduce his photos and videos. What does that tell you? Using editing software? that wasnt available back then.The facts remain, that you could only recreate Meiers pictures, 30/40 years after they were made. That, in all honesty, is proof in itself, that no-one couldre-create them until today.
LaminaDieWills 1 year ago
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Alnes3 1 year ago
@LaminaDieWills It just means he's still a scam. That's all it means bonehead. Are you trying to say something clever? Scam... Scam... scam... Mrmorlam1 has totally dubunked "Dead Beat Meier, & his phoney cronies". Shut him down!!! And you too... shut up. Dead beat meier and his phony cronies. Dubunked and laid to waste. And for those retarded want to be's. Many willl be deceived. If you don' t have anything intelligent to say... than shut-up. And let intelligent people inter-act.
Alnes3 1 year ago
have you recreated the sounds yet?? I really want to see you try and re-create the sounds!!! with the same technology they had in the mid 70's and early 80's.
You had better be willing to do ALL of this mate, otherwise you'll be the biggest failure on youtube. The extensiveness of your claims of Meier being a hoax, has caused you to have to match everything he's done. 60 years worth.
if you cant.....then shut up and go away!!
LaminaDieWills 1 year ago
Cmon you lot. start single handedly recreating every meier photo with 1 ARM!! I want to see you do it, so cocky with your re-creations. lets see you go through every single situted view, stance, perspective, and all possibility of it beng staged and set up...WITH 1 ARM!!!
I'll bet my bottom dollar it took you a while to make this model with 2 hands and new mechanical tools.
why dont you use what they had in 1981...and while your at it...DO IT ALL WITH 1 ARM!!
Bunch of fckin morons!
LaminaDieWills 1 year ago
@LaminaDieWills Dude, how about you watch ALL my videos before making these retarded comments. I did it all with one hand and haven't wanted to bore ppl to death with lengthy films on how to tie a knot with one hand or how to pull a rope with one hand. Dude, use your mind. Everything you need to know is in my vids. If you want a fully filmed everything who the hell will finance such a venture? NOBODY.
Mrmorlam1 1 year ago
@Mrmorlam1 Prove you made this model with 1 arm!!! i want to see you make any model, and re-create the 1500 variantions of photos and film that meier produced, not just 1. i want to see representations of every version model, in every scene, because if you call Meier a hoax, than youve got to match what he's done. Can you do that? If you cant be bothered to go that distance...then why come with a video like this?
LaminaDieWills 1 year ago
6:28. heres what a real car looks like.
right.
now place your model behind it, with the orange lamp light shining on it. lets see your version because you insisted on filming with the toys, but you avoided the real car. cmon, lets see you juggle that model at those same angles as Meiers pictures, while keeping the trees, car and branches in the same picture.
and i say again. the man has 1 ARM!! Lets see you debunk the other 1500 pictures. and make sure you do ALL OF IT, WITH 1 ARM!!
LaminaDieWills 1 year ago
@LaminaDieWills "Avoided the real car"??? What the heck are you talking about? Have you actually watched these videos? I took pictures of a real mercedes on purpose for comparison and the result is in the video you just commented on. Didn't you see it? I thought I made it as clear as day. Give me an email and I'll send you the pictures of the real mercedes OK?
Mrmorlam1 1 year ago
@Mrmorlam1 no, Meiers photos had the ship behind the car....2 cars in fact, you only opted for a toy car infront of your model ship, making your version biased to your allegations of a hoax!!!
Put your model behind the real car and see if you can recreate the photo....you have to deceipher the truth in all variations you know, not just your own way!!
LaminaDieWills 1 year ago
look at the difference in the glow. that beamship is a rich deep gold colour, reddish, orangy colour, do you really think they had bulbs in 1980 capable of creating such a light? gimme a break, Its 2011 & not even you can achieve the same model & youve got 2 hands & modern technology to make it. Meier in 1980,had 1 arm, 1 hand, no technology. very few friends. Are you seriously suggesting, meier made multiple precision cut models & took 1500 pics from all over with 1 hand? think again will you!!
LaminaDieWills 1 year ago
@LaminaDieWills Er..yeah. The "glow" as you put it was put there using cgi on Meiers pictures. NOT MINE. Didn't you know they embellished Meiers pictures to make them look better than they were originally? Light filled etc, which is basically cgi. I used NO cgi at all. The films on scene prove that. That's why I show some of them. You want more?
Mrmorlam1 1 year ago
@Mrmorlam1 cgi? whats to say you never enhanced meiers photos? because ive seen nearly all of meiers photos that are available, and theyve been tested by professionals. if these pictures were enhanced, you would see a dramatic change. Ive seen the exact pictures and their all the same as they were. But, ask yourself, how you got to be in the possession of the pictures you have. did they come from meier? if you say you got them from google or anywhere else, youre more a fraud than anyone!!!
LaminaDieWills 1 year ago
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LaminaDieWills 1 year ago
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Ok, first of all. Have you confirmed these materials you used were available in 1981?
Also, if you look at Meiers pictures, you can see the precision manufacture of that ship. The metals are of different type and finish. The symmetry of each section is perfect. The lower section has 4 rings, yours has 3.
Your model hasnt even built the section the spheres are attached to.
at 0:37, look closely at the belly of the ship. You can see the reflection of the car which shows the ships true size.
LaminaDieWills 1 year ago
@LaminaDieWills Shelf pins, curtain rings, dustbin lid...yes they were all available in 1981. It has been confirmed by others. Yes. "Precision manufacture"? Are you having a laugh? Look at the lowest row of balls on meiers. Follow them round. Is there a kink in the plastic? What section the spheres are attached to? I think you're "wishful thinking" and deluded.
Mrmorlam1 1 year ago 5
@Mrmorlam1 If thats, why didnt you build your model with materials from 1980? why did you build it with stuff from local hardware stores and fckin Wilko??
When i said precision, i ment the symmetry in the lines, the quality of the metals, the size of the spheres, how theyre all situated, the black edging, thats 4 lines, not 3 like yours, and how each line is never out of place, its perfectly constructed. The belt under the spheres,actually moves because its magnetic.
LaminaDieWills 1 year ago
Good job buddy!
Alnes3 1 year ago
Fantastic work.
guitarraveboy 1 year ago
ok lets say his pics were fake how do you explane his metal samples that cant be put together on earth and all his predictions published years before they happend FIGER OUT THAT ONE YOU FUCKEN JACKASS
vxvxxvx 1 year ago
@vxvxxvx the metal sample was tested by a scientist hand picked by the meier camp the very same scientist who said he could bend metal with his own mind, also where is the metal now so it can be tested by independent scientists and the results published for everyone to see? and if your saying ok lets say his photos are fake doesnt that then kind of destroy all the credibility of this case ???
broooziy 1 year ago 2
in all honest Billy Mier is the real deal!!!!!. believe it.llllll
kuvceebxab1 1 year ago
Great video! Good explain.Thank you to upload.
colourufo 1 year ago
great music.........A minus on craftmanship and design on that UFO out of earings and curtain rings. WOW had me thinking it was real............not!
222Lightning 1 year ago
Last but not leats when where the photes take and with what technology did Billy Meier used at that time 1970/1980s and your replicating to make it look real fake with what technology from 2010 duuuuh. Already in errror
Any one who is skilled enought can make the same type of pictures using models and make belief the real photos are fake you would not know if the orginals are real or fake .But if you take the time you would, but most people don't because of mind control .....
Mu2143k 1 year ago
@Mu2143k Technology? What, an Olympus camera? That's what I used. It's EXACTLY the same camera as the one Billy meier used! So it's just a roll of film. Meier used slide film which is "positive" and gets turned into slides when processed. I used ordinary "negative" film but the result is basically the same if the same camera is used. Positive film gives a higher contrast, better colours and a sharper picture - but it's expensive.I'm poor and can't spend money like that.
Mrmorlam1 1 year ago 3
Our systems is based on convincing people with magic words like scientific proof bla bla bla and people belief lies and hate truth. Unless you can check it out the science your self by replicate it without being maniplated and second your spirit always has known the truth and has forgotten it. It takes time and dedication to find out what is true unles your not willing to find it
Fear based Trickery and Manipulation has got us in this mess in the first place
Mu2143k 1 year ago
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Here is a list of people who I have found that to be is
Bill Deagle
Alex Collier
Miriam Delicado
Jessica Mystic
George green
Convincing people that other people are frauds is not the right way and you ask your self why?Because people have to discen them self others they can always blame it on others.
The only way thing going to work if every one took the responsibility them self and stop trying to control other spirits/life
Convincing some one is no proof
Mu2143k 1 year ago
@Mu2143k GEORGE GREEN??!! ARE YOU KIDDING?? HE'S A CONMAN WHO MAKES MILLIONS OUT OF THE LIKES OF YOU! He provided the funds for the Meier videos made by genesis 3 and he's a profit maker! He'll sell you anything if you will buy it.
Mrmorlam1 1 year ago 3
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@Mrmorlam1 It does not matter they the PTB can even set some one up who does not make a profit and still fool you. Like I said, you going to have to discern using the spirit.
His message and videos are for free, but he sells book and the message for us are for free in PDF form and the book you pay the cost of printem them plus shipping.
The rest of the books you pay normal prices, so even if he did not do all of the business would then have belieft him?? so again it proofs nothing
Mu2143k 1 year ago
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I no longer follow the Billy Meier case since there are no update and George Green has really step in the fill in the gap ,but he is more focused on the economy then the spiritual side of it. It took a while to dicern if he is trued full by heart, but you still have to connect the dots your self. You have to understand what he is saying and not just belief what he is saying. This is because he could not have the full story all by him self. There are more people who I know are truth full by heart
Mu2143k 1 year ago
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Mu2143k 1 year ago
nice music :)
357mes 1 year ago
@eruditemaestro1 I don't understand your comment?
Mrmorlam1 1 year ago
The only thing he proofs is that he can make realistic photo that look real !!
Mu2143k 1 year ago
We call this sorcery to make you follow some one intelligent, because this person show great intelligence does not mean he speaks the trued!!!!
He his trying to convince you that he shows proof that it is not real.
Like I said there will be people in the end time speak of great words to deceive you with there magic. That you want to belief.
O BTW the story of Billy Meier got high jacked by the PTB and EGO driven persons who twist the story a long time ago
Mu2143k 1 year ago
@Mu2143k Excuse me but the meier case is out there because it makes alot of MONEY! You understand this? I notice that since my material is on youtube for free I'm not getting hate mail complaining that I'm making money! I am not making money but meier and horn and george green are making plenty from gullible types like yourself! You understand this?
Mrmorlam1 1 year ago
This is the same system the illuminati uses to make you belief a lie. They have been using the same trickery to make you belief some one else instead of you your self so your confused. Don't look to others for your answers, but look for the questions. Because you have always known the answers!! This is a form of Mind control to program you nothing new. They used this on TV long a go to make you belief ET did not exist. If some tells you something or show you something does not mean it is true
Mu2143k 1 year ago
@Mu2143k Dude just look at meier's "landed ship" photo and see that it is a warped plastic model. It wobbles on film in the wind and bobs because it is suspended from a bendy tree branch. Meier's material has shown itself to be the maximum amount a guy with one arm could do and no more. Notice he doesn't film them landing. His films are contrived to fool you into believing so you will spend your money on the material. The meier case is out there to make money!
Mrmorlam1 1 year ago 2
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@Mrmorlam1 Look first in Billy Meiers story is already an old one in the UFO cases , what has been happening over the years is that it has been hijack to confuse you by Horn. Second there only can make money if there is no free information and your willling to pay for it, in this case I never paid for any videos or info. 3th making your own video and models that look like the orignal photos of Billy Meier is no proof nor other then you can make great sci movies.
Mu2143k 1 year ago
@Mu2143k Publishing deals is where the money is dude. Not people who buy the odd video.
Mrmorlam1 1 year ago 2
@Mu2143k Hey are you Billy? Or are you just retarded enough to believe that advanced beings from space thought this HICK in the middle of nowhere was special enough to put on flying shows for, and have him step aboard a spacecraft. Wow, NIGERIANS would love you! You are a born SUCKER! You are so far gone & brainwashed so badly, you can't even accept reality. You put so much stock into one mans lie, you would probably kill yourself if you thought about how much of a punk, sucker, you really are!
qqqTOXICqqq 1 year ago 2
That WCUFO and tree video, no zoom-in zoom-out? It's very important!
vulcanus30 1 year ago
@vulcanus30 Yes it is quite important. BUT, and here's the real issue: You ned EXACTLY the same film camera as Meier to remake it. I don't have the camera nor could I afford to buy it, nor can I get the 8mm film required for it. So that's the problem. If Meier will lend me his fim camera then great. I'll do it again. Otherwise we're stuck!
Mrmorlam1 1 year ago
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@Mrmorlam1 here's the real issue - the WCUFO and tree video..... is a video and just not - not a film! - you need to know the difference between the two - as patently you dont!
so therefore on this point above - you are either lying (i.e. indulging in some far gone complete BS) - or your basically just clueless - i.e. not in the know as to what was precisely used in this respect - would you like me to tell you the precise VIDEO camera it was shot on?!
batdancer 1 year ago
@Mrmorlam1 You do not need a specific video camera for the zoom-in-zoom-out any will do.
Onetazien 1 year ago
@vulcanus30 I only wish my camera would zoom while filming but it won't like so many other cheap cameras. I'm not going to buy one just to take that film! I'm unemployed and totally skint! What I've done this past year has cost me about £400 and I shouldn't have spent it but when you've got Michael Horn on your tail you have to come up with something! If someone can lend me one I'll glady remake it because I've got a wcufo model sitting in a cupboard gathering dust that looks the nuts!
Mrmorlam1 1 year ago
Michael Horn is a complete f***ing idot! I emailed him with links of your work and he still denies meier is a fraud! I want to take that mothership model and shuv it up his arse, great work though!! A+
musicman2047 1 year ago 7
@musicman2047 LOL!!! Double lol! Great comment man. I'd love to see that! Horn is a salesman through and through and will NEVER give up his favourite UFO case. Can you imagine if he said "yeah, sorry everyone, it's all bollocks." lol.
Mrmorlam1 1 year ago 2