STX Masters 2011 Jaedong vs Modesty 2011-08-20 @ La Mancha

[Ur0pinionDoesntCount]

Jaedong's getting a little sloppy :( I really hope he stays the best zerg, hes my fav player

[ExecutiveDmitri]

JD and his bloody fast exp builds =/ he needs to stop doing those...

I believe he'll adapt though... love him as a player...

[coorporacionwalter]

Shet 3:33

[shaoyfan]

jaedong is done his reign is over and he is so bloody sloppy. He should either take a long vacation or just give up on broodwar and change direction or smt

[remda666]

@shaoyfan what are you talking about?

defeating the all mighty flash is sloppy?

from time to time some kid bound to get lucky.

you can't always win...

i still gonna consider him the best that ever was!

[shaoyfan]

@remda666 Yes he wins flash from time to time. So what if he wins flash? He can win flash in one game and lose 5 other games to some player that was unheard of. Please look at jaedong wcg 2009 and see how far he has fallen. Please look at the kespa ranking 2011 october and see how far he has fallen. Please look at his win loss ratio and see how far he has fallen. Lastly, see who the hell he lost to and see how far he has fallen. I would rather he lose to flash and wins against other weaklings

[remda666]

@shaoyfan Well, I haven't watched all the matches of jaedong vs (whoever), but even if you're right, I'll stay a fan. And it's not his insane micro but the adaptation he had (if you say now it's gone doesn't mean others become better, means he got worse).

[shaoyfan]

@remda666 His micro has gotten way worse when i 1st saw him in wcg 2009 when he was vsing stork- absolutely graceful and fast-paced micro. His adaptation hasnt gotten worse but others made use of his build and are better at using it than him. E.g: hydra mutalisk owns jaedong now... I just dont see jaedong being able to continue dominating broodwar that is why i said his reign is over. Perhaps he should try out sc2 already. Might as well quit while he is 6 in kespa

[remda666]

@shaoyfan you have a point although i won't be watching SC2 cuz it's boring!

too many things made it easier to be good at the game, most of the stuff that was making the game hard is built into the new AI (such as spawning scv mines minerals on his own... ) therefore you have plenty of waste time so apm doesn't have to be as high as before...

[shaoyfan]

@remda666 i agree with you to a large extent. Sc2 hinges more on macro then micro which i dont like too. However it has absolutely amazing graphics and units. Moreover the broodwar community is already dieing. For example this year wcg doesnt even have broodwar in it. Hence i feel that it is inevitable that players from broodwar will have to transcend their boundaries and move on to SC2. If i am not wrong the SC2 community is already more than twice as large as the current broodwar's

[remda666]

@shaoyfan I don't think people didn't want WCG to include SCBW...

But I am sure Bllizard wants everyone to buy SC2 so they are forcing us to switch (not a whole big surprise).

Graphic wise... I don't really mind, since i don't experience stuff with my eyes only but with intuition as well.

For me a pretty car is just a pretty car, even Hyundai (which is not a real car but just claims to be , and i'm in the business i would know) can be pretty, doesn't mean it has anything else to it...

[shaoyfan]

@remda666 True i also wanted to see wcg include broodwar. However it is indeed inevitable for the broodwar community to die just like how the warcraft 3 community had already died. Moreover perhaps the difference between broodwar and sc2 is the lack of real pros in sc2 although boxer and nada are there already. However the new generation of pros e.g bisu and flash perhaps might bring about a revolution in sc2 just like in broodwar and make it a much better game than broodwar ever was

[froddowins]

jaedong....pq haces lo mismo contra los zerg,cambia d tecnica

[AlmightyDreadlock]

This is just a bad run for Jaedong. He will adapt and turn it around.

[TheMongolHordes]

zvz such a shitfest always.

[meemoeuk]

Everytime...

All players know 9 pool vs JD = win

[XxDollStuffxX]

OMG Nooooo

[metal592]

TAMARE jaedong te descuidaste ctmmm

[Bleak13]

thought jd might've held that after modesty's lings went crossmap, and it seemed jd rushed that first engage slightly, he could've waited for a few more lings to pop. here's hoping he gets back to his best

[bzeng5114]

modesty is zvz specialist....

[champignones]

its sad, because JD even thou looks good in tvz, he has lost his throne for best zerg and has declined a lot from the 2009 JD we were all used to. i think its fair to say times has changed, and somehow JD will be able to go back to being good, but he will never achieve that level he had on 2009. Flash on the other hand is goind through his peak, hopefully thou after his surgery he can recover, but if he wins OSL he will be the best player on bw history.

[emperor1994]

JvZ in your face!!

[elroi92]

Rofl this mu sucks. Even I wouldn't lose with a 9pool vs 12 hat in close positions.

[Artoo64]

@elroi92 You would lose to Jaedong when he was unstoppable in ZvZ. That's one of the reasons why Jaedong was so good, ZvZ was his best matchup, and he was actually able to overturn the so called build-order advantages. It's so sad to watch his best matchup turn into his worst matchup now.

[Modesty00]

Good Job Buddy he-he-heeee ;] IT was too obv Modesty will go 9p cuz jaedong like 12h...

[Wicel0]

his zvz is slumping, his zvt is still top level and idk for his zvp

[Modesty00]

@Wicel0 His zvt is not top level ... is zero i think.

[Artoo64]

@Modesty00 Actually the only player who plays better against T is Flash's TvT right now. Jaedong's ZvT is unstoppable, and has won the last two matches against Flash. I think he's the only player who can play on par with Flash right now, but his ZvZ has become terrible.

[EziixPked]

OMG SLUMP /sarcasm

[myskillzrhi]

A starting slump for Jaedong..:(

[ComeToJesus]

@myskillzrhi jd's been slumping for months

[myskillzrhi]

@ComeToJesus Sad but true :(

[RocketMess]

SPOILER

Cheese play only way to beat overmindong

[KrazyKorean1337]

@RocketMess A 9pool isnt a cheese idiot.

[Modesty00]

@RocketMess noob

[RocketMess]

@Modesty00 lol I remember you, keep trolling 'pro'

[Modesty00]

@RocketMess 9p cheese? Me troll? Ha-ha-ha. Stop making Idiots comment or else everyone will say u idiot/sux/noob...

[DailyJuicy]

精彩！

[f3505413]

@DailyJuicy

精采啊~ 中國人 台灣人 都沒在看navake的影片了!!

[LSgraal]

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