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  • do you think that the people that made this big world mess can fix it? after all they already own everything on the planet,except your your freedom to choose.

  • Revelation 11:15 The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever. all earthly kingdoms are sold out to the devil and they WILL FALL at the return of Christ

  • @ehnwalden so you want a new world order, so long as it is the new world order that you approve of? Hey, me too !! but its got to be mine not yours. . . .

  • @AGrimmDemise and I think the genocide thing had less to do with world domination and more to do with cock-eyed views regarding race. Really, the more I think about it the less Hitler seems Luke a good example for an anti-federalist position.

  • @AGrimmDemise I think your over simplifying the issue. For one thing Hitler did not want to rule the world, he just wanted Germany to rule the world. From what I understand of Federalism, which I admit is just what Nick Dutch has said, it is more everyone will run the world together, without any single group running the show.

  • Adolf Hitler wanted total world domination. He wanted to be the leader of a world government. How did he attempt to get this? Through genocide. The absolute only way to convince an entire race of humans to cooperate to make a global democracy would be through mass murder and demonization.

  • @diablo22900, I think the consolidating power in Nick Dutch's plan is humans, so we should be okay.

  • @BehindTheEye999 that's not what the Reptilians tell me.

  • So where do libertarians, Christians, and gun owners fit into the new world order? The answer is...nowhere !!! When you consolidate power to such an extent, there is no democracy. I believe an Austrain fellow once tried this. He was forced to commit suicide in a basement as the armies of the world closed in on him. I would also ad, that people like YOU do not fit. As in, free thinkers and spiritualists of all kinds. This is dangerous ground my friend. And nothing good will come of this.

  • Working towards a common objective/ambition, all nations unified, all nationalities working together, would definitely provide benefits. If all countries coalesced into one central body imagine how much could be achieved? A more "centralized" society is our destiny. I can't see it coming to fruition any time soon, but I believe it will happen. But if this centralized system consists of dogmatism, fear and intimidation then we should repudiate it wholeheartedly.

  • @Jcm9991

    From the comments of Kofi Anan when he first became President of the U.N., the plan does NOT include any type of dogmatism. At least not religious dogmatism. The new religion of the NWO would be "Goddess Based". This is because ALL cultures, can of course, resonate with the Earth. And the (Re)deification of the Earth will cause people to show more respect for our limited resources.

  • The idea "One United Nation" lead to massive suffering. Look USSR and Nazi Germany - ethnic cleansings and executions of political prisoners.

    The idea is Utopia, because how you will FORCE so many diverse people to adopt your ideas?

    Let's look USA... if you are democrat... how you will force so many republicans to adopt your ideas? USSR and Nazi Germany choosed the ONLY solution - mass murder and propaganda

  • @TwiztidcAsh

    I agree with you.Even inside nations there are groups trying to separate.For instance, Spain and 'ETA'.The same thing. I don't think one government would be good for the fact that basically it would be impossible to ask for change or to protest since it would have the power of the world to take you to jail,kill you and bury your body in the ocean.There would be no counter measure against the police state,humanity would be doomed for a very long time e.g the pharos era.

  • @lost4 i agree... Irish Republican Army and ETA are left-wing nationalists. They don't want to be Dependant. They don't like the idea of being modern colonies.

    Instead encouraging political/cultural diversity... people like Nick Dutch are promoting (future) genocide.

    How someone will force different people to accept your ideas? ONLY with propaganda, demonization and mass murder.

    This is why let's hope that there will be no centralized world government. the different people will get killed

  • @TheOioink my theory is that the Reptilians are for the most part harmless and only use Earth to harvest our vast and unusued suffering resources.

  • @theotherDylanThomas

    There is no such thing as Reptilians.

  • "if there was some rationalle to have a global government; global democracy whereby .... your own country had some kind of democratic accountability crossing borders.." It might thought the United Nations, as conceptualized by Pearson, was intended to have this role. The UN although not politically accountable to individual citizens of each nation, does strive for harmonious actions and reactions, and discipline on a global scale. As do mirror economic, and environmental global unions.

  • Rule #1: The strong rule and the weak serve. That seems to be the natural order of things. Old world order or new world order...it doesn't matter. See rule #1.

  • You're just trolling the Illuminati guys now. It'd be more subtle if you painted your skin green :P

  • @Purerasslin No, actually I am quite interested in what the organization Federal Union has to say

  • @Purerasslin No such thing as a Reptilian.

  • The New World Order is ORDER, not the NWC - New World CHAOS. I hate all the fear-mongering on the Internet. Though you did not elaborate on the subject much, I think on the most basic level (as far as I can tell) you and I see this the same way. There is nothing evil about the NWO. No more evil than a Democratic Republic. It is an EQUALIZING of the human pop. Some people fear EQUALITY. They want to feel "special". The psychotic need to feel special at the expense of others is psychopathic

  • @BehindTheEye999 Personally I prefer chaos before order. And the "psychotic" need to feel special I think is due to the fact that humans are meant to be free thinking individuals and not the kind of conforming creature we're often expected to be. Don't condemn things you do not understand. One day you may find out that your awareness never was as splendid as you thought it to be. Though I totally agree that equality is ideal. Scrap the hierarchy!

  • @MasterOfPancakes21

    Scrap the hierarchy? Why? So we can plunge into an abyss of chaos, which by your own admission, you prefer over order? The NWO will be about EVERYONE being fed, clothed, receiving medication, and housed, as EVERY human should be. This is about scrapping National/Cultural hierarchies, to which I agree. When it comes to ORDER, I am not advocating the nightmares of 1984 or Brave New World, or any other kind of de-humanizing uniformity/conformity. I am advocating ORDER. Period.

  • @BehindTheEye999 Yeah I think we use different words for the same things really. I believe in something I call natural order which essentially is when noone tries to control anyone or anything and then things fall down as they should. It's essentially chaos I guess but chaos with love and not violence.

    And about the hierarchy. Well nothing is just black or white if you know what I mean.

  • Interesting. Please define what you mean by "advanced liberal democracy," and the type of government structure would that take on a global scale. By "democratic accountability across borders," are you implying something akin to a global constitution...a supreme law of the globe that all other laws in all other countries must be in accordance with? Federalism in the U.S. is a beautiful, complicated thing. It's hard to extrapolate the concept of federalism (as I understand it) on a global scale.

  • I think to a certain degree, I personally believe it would be critical as a short-term solution to global issues. So I shared this on Facebook.

  • Probably work out if all the countries were given equal resources. We would need one world religion and a bunch of stuff. Needs more thought.

  • @TheOioink

    What? One world religion? This doesn't fit into democracy. People should be free to believe whateve they want with or without new world order. No one's telling me what to believe, that's for sure.

  • @lost4soul Ban All Religions then. sounds good to me.

  • @TheOioink

    Ban all religions???!!!! Does the term, "COMMUNISM" ring a bell? Imagine the misery and chaos that would ensue after the banning of all religions. Oh wait ! You don't have to imagine it at all ! You just have to read Russian/Chinese history. Whoosh (wiping eyebrows).

  • @BehindTheEye999 Just 1 religion not 5,001 like there is today.

  • @TheOioink

    Paganism (Polytheism) would be the basis. However, the diversity of Paganism would remain. According to Kofi Anan.

  • @TheOioink

    Ban religions? Let religious people do what they what....they're free!

  • @lost4soul Free? hahahaha sure they are

  • The NWO of control sounds scary. but an NWO of peaceful cooperation with other nations is critical. we are not ready for a NWO we are not enlightened to accept such a concept. we are not on the same level

  • This gives me a headache.What's a new order? What's federalism? I'm a bit thick when it comes to this stuff

  • @MsPrinceAlfie You are on the internet. Why dont you go look up the subject and read about it?

  • @TheOioink I would be I can't be bothered :p

  • I've been thinking about this too. It seems to me like humanity needs to unify at an emotional level in order to bring an end to wars. And if we all eventually are reasonably peaceful with eachother why wouldn't we have a global government? A global government then which ofcourse didn't exert control and suppresion onto the people. (Whatever use would be left then)

  • I don't think it would benefit at all

  • @Decrypted33 Have you actually studied Federalism ?

  • @BespokeGroupUK no idea what that is

  • @BespokeGroupUK Cheers will look into it, i think we all know inside it's time to come in from the cold that doesn't neccesarily mean gems and shit, i think gods gonna come everywhere and were the little jolts of exstacy. Oh found great link imo bout tree of life and death.

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