Tesla Roadster , Best electric car, SES information

[Peter1945]

You are absolutely right ! But where are the solutions which Stanley Meyer has found out ? I am the first who will change from oil to water if it works !

[puppeteye]

crap!!! the batteries dude are pure polution for the planet!!! and you still have to pay! better run the car with water clean and free!

[porscheghcje]

The Oil companies are trying their best to stop free energy ideas from spreading to common ppl.

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[n0me0lvides]

Tesla Roadster is not the best electric car, it's rather an expensive toy. Though it has decent mileage and great outlook, Tesla's battery technology comprised of thousands small batteries is very unreliable. So it can be only your second or third vehicle, if you can afford having so many with so high price :)

[GuthKing]

This should have been out 60 years ago! Tesla is dead, but here's his engine. It all makes sense now doesn't it. Big Oil making one last big run. A year ago if you saw the name Tesla, we'd be talking suppressed technology. Now Tesla is a fucking car. Let's not confuse the scientist with the car.

[MooseOfReason]

"This is the kind of car that'll change the world."

It's gotta be awesome to be able to say that.

[djangobelgo]

Hello, I make US$ 21,000 a year. When will a European-style small all electric car be available for under $20,000?

[Peter1945]

There is one coming soon from Norway ! Look at Google !

[tofuOMEGA]

how much do you think insurance will be. it pretty hard to find a machanic who knows wat they r doing.? rite.

[tribluered]

100% Electric Sedan, SUV, and Truck at Lionev website. Cost $30K. Max tested range 456 miles per charge.

[Nichen]

Sorry fuel cell manufacturers

[TommeyLeeReed]

One thing is clear, nobody has their own Tesla car why?

This car does not do what they are saying it does, many investor have bought this car and don't even have one yet, why? At $92,000.00 I would want my car by now.

I am converting my H2 to a hybrid, this wont cost as near to that price.

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[mrmrlee]

Another hydrogen issue is that in order to go the 250 miles the Tesla can go, you would need a much larger tank than can be fitted on a normal sized car. Lithium based batteries are a much better energy carrier and fit in a much smaller space. I saw a hydrogen fueled prototype at an alternative fuel show and it's range was only 90 miles.

[chuckdawobbly]

how can the chairman say the tesla car doesn't rely on burning hydrocarbon fuels? i am so confused by tesla technology. where is the electricity that powers the car coming from? ísn't coal a hydrocarbon?

[thetasteofsilver]

more than 20% of the US is nuclear power. plus wind power and electric dams are getting up there. france has 80% of it's electricity from nuclear power. Electricity is not hydrocarbon specific.

[compotatoj]

The Tesla Roadster also comes with an optional solar charger that provides more than enough energy to charge the car and the remaining energy can be sent back to the power grid or be used for your house.

[speakupforjustice]

That's a valid argument. Personally I'd like to see more nuclear/solar power in the US but I don't think that will happen anytime soon with all the coal/oil natural gas companies that would lobby against it. However, using electricity from coal would still be MUCH BETTER than relying on Middle East oil. Personal solar panels or personal wind turbines may work well, but it's not effective in regions that gets little wind or sunlight.

[speakupforjustice]

But don't forget this would still be MUCH cheaper- electricity from coal doesn't nearly cost as much as the amount of gas you would need to go the same distance in the Tesla as you would in a non electric car. Also coal energy can be much cleaner- so it could still be a step in the right direction until clean alternative energy companies take over.

[wilsonbh]

Hydrogen fuel cells are a fantasy and in time, research will cease as the technological barriers are insurmountable. Battery technology is here now. But for a car to cost $100K is unrealistic. Unless they can get the cost down to something the middle class can afford, it will never take hold and have any impact whatsoever.

[Air420]

Yes, hydrogen is dead.

[compotatoj]

$100,000 is pretty reasonable for the performance that it gives you. It is cheaper than most other sports cars in its class.

[knome]

FYI, H2 fuel cell cars ARE electric cars.. using fuel cells as the power source. The most optimistic (scientific) estimates say we'll have 300+ mile range on them by maybe 2020.

We -already- have 300 mile range capable BEVs. We already have technology to power cars essentially indefinitely if a standard battery format were decided and used at service stations for a 'lease and swap' arrangement. It is the oil and auto companies that don't want to take up the challenge, or want it to vanish.

[knome]

Lest you all think I am just a sour grape... I LOVE the Tesla :) There are a few other companies trying to follow in their footsteps as well, so this thing is building momentum. I am completely psyched about it!

[knome]

If you don't believe me about Hydrogen, where do you think it will be coming from?

Oil and Gas! Yep. They've managed to make it so that oil and gas are STILL needed, even in a supposed 'Hydrogen economy'. They claim it would be too expensive to convert water to H2 to make it profitable.. huh.

Now where have I heard that before? Oh and don't forget, the H2 cell technology will be sequestered and patented by the big guys, so forget about getting cheap cells or plugging them in.

[jpkabler]

In college, I worked on a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle, and my brother worked at a fuel cell company(Porvair) doing research. The hydrogen economy will be based on being able to tap electricity wherever it is in surplus, and through electroalysis, directly convert it into hydrogen. When you think about the chemicals and resources(acids, metals) used in batteries, hydrogen, in the long term, is a greener solution. Batteries are now, but hydro is the future.

[knome]

jpkabler: Ok.. thats a good testimonial. I'm a Physics guy, however, and I can tell you that 'rechargable' hydrogen cells are almost a fantasy at this point. As far as electrolysis is concerned, that is a tremendous waste of energy. Why would you use 15% of the energy when you can use 100%?

Hydrogen is not an energy source, but a carrier. You have to MAKE it into a form suitable for extraction. And storage is ridiculously difficult. What we need is better batteries, not pie in the sky.

[bjhorton2005]

Yes but look at who is taking interest in the hydrogen business. As well as purchasing companies/patents to batteries. The oil industry. Well, judging by the profits shown from the oil companies in the past years, I don't want a product that makes me rely on them, in any way. I don't want them as an intermediary. Thanks for the info though, I bet it could be greener in the right conditions.

[jpkabler]

This thing is bad ass. Anyway, regarding the comments on hydrogen. Sure it takes electricity to create hydrogen, but the key is you go to a place where electricity is easily and cheaply harnessed(Iceland! geothermal out the ass) and produce it in bulk there,bottle it into compression tanks, then ship it all over the world in hydrogen powered ships.

however, electric cars are totally feasible NOW. chevy volt anyone?

[knome]

The Chevy Volt is total fabrication. GM is trying to prevent the backlash from their EV1 antics by saying "Oh, NOW the tech is here! Yes!" when they had the chance to be 5 years ahead of the market and killed their project. There is also plenty of evidence that the Volt is totally vapor, and that GM is lobbying quietly to keep electric cars off the map.

The Hydrogen thing is complete bullcrap, staged by the fuel producers to try to maintain their monopoly on transport fuel.

[jpkabler]

I hate what GM did with the EV1 as much as anyone, but lithium batteries available now are a lot better. GM is a short sighted and stupid company, but now that they've seen Toyota making a killing on the Prius, they are jumping on the bandwagon. Energy independence will be a bipartisan issue soon between security concerned repubs and enviro concerned dems, and gm has to accept it.

[radixveridon]

also i wanted to add that hydrogen is GREAT and that they both are great alternatives to gasoline... they are putting hydrogen filling stations in europe that are 100% solar power all that is needed is a water source... which is amazing because you could put a fill up station virtually anywhere... and with ongoing technology you could eventually buy a unit the size of a microwave that could create hydrogen...

[radixveridon]

well look at it this way... the tesla roadster is all electric yes we have to burn oil to get electricity but eventually we can find an alternative to that to... such as solar panels... on tesla's website there is a company that sells solar panels that hook up directly to the tesla... install them to the roof of your garage... voila free transportation for as long as the battery lasts...

[ni7enichi]

yeah but that aptera car is ugly compared to this slick roadster.

[michaeloflaherty]

My favourite Electric Car The Tesla Roadster, Thanks for posting.

[EnigmaNZ]

The $100,000 for the tesla is nothing for such people, and will replace there porsches and ferraris. 10 years later it has a sticker price of $10,000 and us poorer folk can acquire one. Maybe it will stay at this level for a while before a breakthrough drops the bottom out of the price. But if you make the car ugly, then only the treehuggers will want to buy it.

[solarcat1]

Here is the low-cost alternative to the Tesla. $20,000 and a five gallon tank of diesel with the electric battery will get you over 1000 miles.

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[EnigmaNZ]

When the lead acid battery was the only choice for an electric vehical, of course h2 seemed the way to go. But with new battery tech coming out of the labs and fuel cells still being expensive, maybe we need to change focus. When talk is of 200+ mile range, good proformance, good looks, and battery life of up to 20 years or more with the new batteries. It's time to start selling electrics, to film stars, captains of industry, models etc that can afford the initial steep price.

[gucker07]

You're a moron. Hydrogen is not free. You need energy to create hydrogen (via electrolysis for example), it's not just there (like oil or coal). Oviously you don't know anything about the subject...Hydrogen is strongly hyped at the moment, watch the bubble burst. You can't fool physics.

[Seanisthebest1]

OK why dont we have this technology mainstream. OK you got a car that is super fast,has a sexy look to it, has an awesome range it is zero emmision and even if you used oil to make the electricity it would be so much more of an efficient use of our oil resources. I mean the technology is obvious.

[Peter1945]

The technology is not obvious becaus e you can make electricity in diefferent ways: One of the newest is, to build up hydrogen by electrolyse and get it through a fuel-cell which makes of it to electricity without any pollution ! In Canada at Ottawa there is a big fleet of buses which runs in this way without noise, without pollution and the exhaust is steam from water! In some years we all will ride on hydrogen !

[RobertM87]

Using electrolysis to create hydrogen still uses electricity. Electricity primarily is created from coal and natural sources, so there is some degree of carbon emission involved. Because you can't get energy from nothing, it would be more efficient to apply electricity directly to a drive system rather than use it to convert elements. However, hydrogen can be created within nuclear reactors. Still, electricity will likely become the main propulsion system for transportation in the future.

[Peter1945]

The power of water was used in the first time to drive mills then it was used in steam-engines but finally some inventors found out, there is energy inside and separated H from O they made H2 Gas & O to the energy of future which will change the world . It will end power of oil, of atomic plants.Electricity can be created now, where water is available, even at the sea ! We swim in energy, but we are not allowed to know it !

[gucker07]

Hydrogen is not the solution, it's a scam! Electric cars are the future.

[likmahchoda]

very sweet.

[sutski]

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