This man is using technology like this... but the only reason we don't have it, is because the Utility companies have threatened to kill him. No joke.
If they're using the Cobalt electrode in conjunction with a Phosphate solution, doesn't the catalyst get used up? In this case, this is not considered renewable since Phosphate and Cobalt will become the actual fuel.
A catalyst does not participate in the reaction, thus, does not get consumed. It only speeds the reaction, by lowering the activation energy (the energy needed to start up the reaction).
An ideal catalyst does not get used up in a given reaction. However, not all chemical reactions are complete and sometimes the catalyst can be used up in the reaction. In this case, I'm speculating as to how much of it is being used, or if the level of the catalyst is being monitored. If you need to resupply a catalyst to a reaction, then it is not a catalyst.
So now we now the catyalist stan meyer was using. what a farce. They killed him. So now MIT school of the elite comes up with the same type of cell. Nothing fishy here, especially since becasue a university has done it the tech will be available to industry cheaply. In fact I would be will to bet this so called discovery is funded by a large corp.
@THeScoobyNoob haha sounds like a conspiracy theory to me mate. We can never know for sure What Stanley Meyer used in his fuel cell electrodes but you may be right. TBH I am tired of waiting for this technology. Haven't they made enough money from OIL yet? I mean Jeez already!
so let me get this straight....this is Massachusetts Institute of TECHNOLOGY Chemistry staff and they have no clue what the structure of the catalyst is? haven't they heard of mass spectrometry? to find out the exact shape of the molecules so that we can get this thing rolling already? Something fishy is going on here folks. They are also expecting the public to pursue these experiments otherwise why would they release very valuable information of something they just 'discovered'?
Mass spectrometry will only provide information on the elements present in the electrode, which we already know is: cobalt, nitrogen, carbon, hydrogen, and probably phosphorus. It will not necessarily reveal the structure of solids. As you can see in the microscopic view, you have the known elements creating different compounds at various phases, as metallurgy predicts. Expecting to use a scientific word and make a point? You clearly don't know how long this type of research takes.
@shambles9 Mass spectrometry (MS) is an analytical technique that measures the mass-to-charge ratio of charged particles.[1] It is used for determining masses of particles, for determining the elemental composition of a sample or molecule, and for elucidating the chemical structures of molecules, such as peptides and other chemical compounds. WIKIPEDIA buddy! KEY WORDS: Elucidating the chemical structure. Do I need to continue this argument? I mean we are talking about MIT where all the brains r
I apologize for my mistake. However at on instance in the video they elude to the electrode being a dynamic surface, which means they'll want to construct phase diagrams which is also a considerable step. In any case I find your tone in bad taste considering this is a positive discovery.
That's not to say that I know how long research like this is supposed to take, which I don't. But I find your assertion that something is 'fishy' unfounded.
yet another 'accident' discovery in the lab! I hope we will finally use some of this technology that we always see on telly! They have been talking about these alternative fuels for decades now. It's about god damn time they released it to the public!
acts as a catalyst. Any element that can conduct electricity can be a catalyst in this situation. The catalyst will allow the production to rise, along with the electrical current draw.
Here's what I ask MIT: Show me prof that the process produces hydrogen while using less energy than conventional methods.
exactly, my thinking. Interesting tho, the layer formed would also increase the surface area of the electrode. overcoming Surface boundary layer is an important thing. the catalyst didnt appear to help current flow when in solution....
I dont get it. Why is producing the oxygen important. It's it the hydrogen thats needed?
IsItTrue99 8 months ago
This was uploaded two years ago, dunno what happened since then
fredlesson 10 months ago
@mmaghfaj
It's likely a combo of oil company pressure and wanting to secure a grant that will keep them happy for the next 10 or so years ;)
MDS1007 11 months ago
This man is using technology like this... but the only reason we don't have it, is because the Utility companies have threatened to kill him. No joke.
/watch?v=3bEyv1FRVYI
PewPewKapowie 11 months ago
If they're using the Cobalt electrode in conjunction with a Phosphate solution, doesn't the catalyst get used up? In this case, this is not considered renewable since Phosphate and Cobalt will become the actual fuel.
shambles9 1 year ago
@shambles9
A catalyst does not participate in the reaction, thus, does not get consumed. It only speeds the reaction, by lowering the activation energy (the energy needed to start up the reaction).
Ayserk57 11 months ago
@Ayserk57
An ideal catalyst does not get used up in a given reaction. However, not all chemical reactions are complete and sometimes the catalyst can be used up in the reaction. In this case, I'm speculating as to how much of it is being used, or if the level of the catalyst is being monitored. If you need to resupply a catalyst to a reaction, then it is not a catalyst.
shambles9 11 months ago
So now we now the catyalist stan meyer was using. what a farce. They killed him. So now MIT school of the elite comes up with the same type of cell. Nothing fishy here, especially since becasue a university has done it the tech will be available to industry cheaply. In fact I would be will to bet this so called discovery is funded by a large corp.
THeScoobyNoob 1 year ago
@THeScoobyNoob haha sounds like a conspiracy theory to me mate. We can never know for sure What Stanley Meyer used in his fuel cell electrodes but you may be right. TBH I am tired of waiting for this technology. Haven't they made enough money from OIL yet? I mean Jeez already!
mmaghfai 11 months ago 3
so let me get this straight....this is Massachusetts Institute of TECHNOLOGY Chemistry staff and they have no clue what the structure of the catalyst is? haven't they heard of mass spectrometry? to find out the exact shape of the molecules so that we can get this thing rolling already? Something fishy is going on here folks. They are also expecting the public to pursue these experiments otherwise why would they release very valuable information of something they just 'discovered'?
mmaghfai 11 months ago
@mmaghfai
Mass spectrometry will only provide information on the elements present in the electrode, which we already know is: cobalt, nitrogen, carbon, hydrogen, and probably phosphorus. It will not necessarily reveal the structure of solids. As you can see in the microscopic view, you have the known elements creating different compounds at various phases, as metallurgy predicts. Expecting to use a scientific word and make a point? You clearly don't know how long this type of research takes.
shambles9 11 months ago
@shambles9 Mass spectrometry (MS) is an analytical technique that measures the mass-to-charge ratio of charged particles.[1] It is used for determining masses of particles, for determining the elemental composition of a sample or molecule, and for elucidating the chemical structures of molecules, such as peptides and other chemical compounds. WIKIPEDIA buddy! KEY WORDS: Elucidating the chemical structure. Do I need to continue this argument? I mean we are talking about MIT where all the brains r
mmaghfai 11 months ago
@mmaghfai
I apologize for my mistake. However at on instance in the video they elude to the electrode being a dynamic surface, which means they'll want to construct phase diagrams which is also a considerable step. In any case I find your tone in bad taste considering this is a positive discovery.
shambles9 11 months ago
@shambles9 I do lab experiments as well buddy, so don't ASSUME I don't know what the lab is all about. Assumption makes an ASS out of U and ME.
mmaghfai 11 months ago
@mmaghfai
That's not to say that I know how long research like this is supposed to take, which I don't. But I find your assertion that something is 'fishy' unfounded.
shambles9 11 months ago
As it always should !
medicialberto 1 year ago
Nature has been the great inspirer - as it a
medicialberto 1 year ago
yet another 'accident' discovery in the lab! I hope we will finally use some of this technology that we always see on telly! They have been talking about these alternative fuels for decades now. It's about god damn time they released it to the public!
mmaghfai 1 year ago 3
It would be interesting to see them actually make the cobalt electrode.
ScalerWave 1 year ago
great job. keep at it.
TheLukovysk 1 year ago
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crazynutzzz says, "Here's what I ask MIT: Show me prof that the process produces hydrogen while using less energy than conventional methods."
I say, "Why does MIT have to validate itself to an anonymous commenter who call himself "crazynutzzz"?"
iondragonx 2 years ago
is it flippin a chemicl or physicl change mn!!!
lozgstar08 2 years ago
and you call that nothing you idiot.
97654821 2 years ago
It is something. Electrolysis of water, and Electroplating.
I said it's "nothing revolutionary"
BTW: You should work on your couth.
Also calling me an idiot because you did not thoroughly read or understand my post is ironic.
crazynutzzz 2 years ago
Part 2 of my comment:
I guaranty if he had an amp meter wired up you would see a dramatic rise in current draw as the plating forms.
crazynutzzz 2 years ago
I see absolutely nothing revolutionary here.
All they have discovered is:
1). Electrolysis of water.
2). Electroplating.
This may be discoveries to them, however this is nothing new.
Basically the Cobalt particles he added to the water gets positively charged making it attract to and attach itself to the negative glass electrode.
Over some time this creates a Cobalt plating on the electrode causing it to conduct better over its surface area, which speeds up the electrolysis.
crazynutzzz 2 years ago
the revolution here is they make all the process cheaper
alexrah 2 years ago
They do mention this, they say the colbalt
acts as a catalyst. Any element that can conduct electricity can be a catalyst in this situation. The catalyst will allow the production to rise, along with the electrical current draw.
Here's what I ask MIT: Show me prof that the process produces hydrogen while using less energy than conventional methods.
crazynutzzz 2 years ago
@crazynutzzz
exactly, my thinking. Interesting tho, the layer formed would also increase the surface area of the electrode. overcoming Surface boundary layer is an important thing. the catalyst didnt appear to help current flow when in solution....
IsItTrue99 1 year ago