Ah Ash... Probably my favorite KOF original "hero" , just because of his fighting style, eons better than Kyo, Iori or K' style in my opinion....Maybe because i'm a Guile, Charlie/Nash and Remy player.
@FlameAdder They might be the same but Joe have defensive moves as for Hwa's it concentrates on offensive one. Take a look at Joe's Tiger Kick and Hwa's Dragon Kick.
Huh..Ash ain't insane..Yamazaki is completely bat shit crazy..Ash only cares about power and that is it..being selfish a jackass etc...and Benimaru started the Effeminate Gay thing I mean a skin tight top!..sigh
Benimaru gets points for at least being visibly ripped- even if slim- and most especially for being a shootboxer, which was basically mixed martial arts decades before the UFC came around. Ash is a freckle-faced rail-thin teenager, has a ludicrous fighting stance, and seems to win all his fights in-story by having better flamey powers than anyone else rather than actually outfighting them.
What I'd REALLY like to see is Gai Tendo putting on some asbestos jammies and breaking him in half :-)
Really? I don't see it. they have similar clothes, but that's all I see. I just think Ash is a plain charge character.
I can't speak for others, but I hate how his rabid fanbase loves him just for being an stylish anti-hero. Sure, his design is stylish and weird, but as a visual kei design, that's how it's supposed to be; that doesn't mean that I'm a bigot for not falling in love with him, as his fans are so eager to claim.
I'm surprised that no one ever mentions Jean from Virtua Fighter 5 R.
Never claimed you to be a bigot. I think he's deliciously evil, and fun to use(great poke character with combo potential when used right). As for the Remy thing, it just bugs me when people say he's a clone of Remy, while disregarding that Remy was a walking Iori. The visual stylings of the two is an obvious rip from Capcom. Then again, 3S needed a "Guile", I guess.
I hear you on the rabid fanbase though. Drives me nuts to keep hearing "ZOMG ASH CRIMSON 4EVA!1!".
Most of the Ash fanbase are non-gamers(mostly female at the risk of sounding sexist). Most of them wouldn't know how to use him if you put a gun to their heads anyways. :X
I'm a K', Kyo, and Kim fan all the way, but Ash Crimson definitely ranks high on my list. :P
Haha, what's funny is, I never used Guile, and I've been playing SF since SSF2ST, I just recently started using Guile in Netplay thanks to my hours of using Ash on 2003/XI.
You know, after playing both of them completely, I'll have to retract my previous statement of Ash not being a copy...his b+A or b+D are direct mimics of Guile's from ST. Also, they have the same poke combos, like Guile's standing LP to back + MK. Only difference is Ash isn't in range to throw afterwards. Pretty neat.
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ash is a fuckin faggoooooot
No one can't say he's not. And no way Iori could get defeated by that moron. Snk is just turned crazy! Throw away a character loved in the whole world for every detail of his personality for a stupid asshole. What a shame.
Of course he didn't technically defeat Iori. He took his powers in the same way he took Chizuru's. Came on the scene when they were too weak to put up a fight and put them down. In Iori's case he is left defenseless after the Riot of the Blood wears off. When it did, Ash moved in and stole his treasure. Kyo better be on his in KOF XIII because I hear XII will have no storyline whatsoever.
The way I read it is that Ash was made to make a character that ppl felt bad for liking because he was an antagonist. Or something to that effect. But he just doesnt measure up to the other hero's & villians.
Neither black or white (morally), nor good or evil, but somewhere in between. That's how most Ash fans describe him, and how they justify his status as a main character.
He's still just a super-hyped Visual Kei design, tho.
Yeah I mean he feels like a clone of guile or Remy from SF3. Plus I dont like how he acts all frail and stuff.
I mean if he's popular in Japan it's cause ppl think he's tough. BUT he didnt beat Chizuru cause all he did is sneak up on her and take the yata mirror from her. As for beating Iori in the "Riot of Blood" state I imagine he used the Yata Mirror to help him win in some way...
They do? Oh c'mon it's not like it's and unbeatable form. he jsut becomes crazy and fast. that's it. Plus like you said he wasnt at 100% power ATM.
I know Iori's "Riot of blood" State is powerful but isn't it supposed to be a "fake" Orochi trasnformation?
I mean if he had true orochi wouldn't he gain more powers like the "new faces" team?
Also yashiro's orochi state sucks. he doesnt even get a real element like Shermie(Who I love using in her normal form) and Chris(anoyin little punk...)
Remember, when Iori goes crazy in a cutscene, a minimum of 2 people tend to get curbstomped, if not outright killed. So in that respect, it's sort of important.
Also, Yashiro has the power of earth. So his power is using the planet itself - mainly by slamming you into it again and again and again and again.....and again and again... then using a DM to slam you again and again and...
True but when I said he doesnt get a real element i meant something he could call upon like Shermie has lighting and Chris Fire. He just get's earth and super strength. It would've been cool if he could make a big earth spike come up and impale someone or something like that. What I;m trying to say is they should done a better job at showing his earth power without resorting to simply throwing ppl around. That's what ppl like Daimon and Shermie are for. And why did they make Daimon so emotionles
by shade of gray i mean an ambiguous character who is not the traditional hero(white) nor the traditional villain, but something in the middle(gray)- an anti hero/ unheroic hero.
K' is my favorite. he's not good nor bad. he's just him. ash is evil. and i don't think that ash is orochi. if he's orochi, he has to be born before the death of chris.
I think the character design is great, at the begenning i didn't liked it at all... but in time I come to love it!, I don' think Ash is Gay but effeminate, the way he acts swits him real great
I adore Ash because he's both hated and loved for what he is. Never expected that- too many people like Kyo, Iori and goody-goodies like Alba Meira in fighting games.
Go ahead and whine about his popularity. Never saw an 'evil' personality do so well.
Ash is full of shit. Simply as that. Why don't more people remember that Ash is THE OROCHI (seen in the rival team KOF XI ending) who WANTS TO KILL ALL HUMANS?!? "Oh yeah- he wants to kill me, and he also, separately, has no respect for me, but I like him a lot for those reasons" WHAT THE F*CK?!?
And before people call me a troll- this theme song is cool and Shen and Oswald are the BOMB. Especially Shen. And Oswald. How 'street-hero-awesome' is Shen? And how cool is it to take a CARD GAME (Karnoffel) and be so good with it you can use it as a FIGHTING STYLE?!
I actually admire the philosiophy of Orochi. He values nature more than human life (no surprise) and considers mankind a parasitic pile of shit on the face of the earth. That's pretty f*cking true if you ask me; yes, I am aware of the hypocricy.
But Ash is too much of a pathetic bitch to deserve association with such a force. Come on, what kind of a jerk-off walks shaking his ass in every direction?
Those are... really good points. All of them would be true if not for the Rival Team ending in KOF XI. Elizabeth Blanctorche identifies "Ash" as The Orochi, after 'he' says "I'm not the person I used to be". His eyes (glowing, evil) also kinda gave it away. Ash Crimson, the original, WASN'T The Orochi. But he was (to quote an ending comment by "ash")- "Don't reveal your trump card till the end- the very end!". His body became like Chris'.
So sad that that truly pathetic kid was SO pathetic that he was the last person anyone would ever suspect- there was no one who thought to save him!
As for the Orochi; yeah he/it is pretty admirable in some respects. It's just sad that he/it became (far as I can tell) so frustrated with humanity that he/it decided to KILL ALL OF HUMANITY AS A SPECIES OFF. I'd love someone to be able to TELL the Orochi how to do things so that that wasn't necessary- that would be a MEMORABLE ending! :)
Their previous theme (Splendid Evil) was better... This one's still good though, and I like the sample use, it's a trademark from the KOF series dating as far as 94.
About Ash, he could very well be a hero and doing all this for a higher purpose, faking his intentions... But I find surprising that he got more popular than the previous hero K', who is much better looking and more interesting gameplay-wise.
I don't think Ash is either psychotic or angsty. Why is psychotic good. It takes all the emotional weight right out of a character if the only motivations or factors they have for doing anything is that 'they're just crazy'. Ash is more interesting the way he is.
True, but those types of characters died out in the '90s anyway. Now it's all about angst.
Honestly, as unimpressive as Ash is to me, I think I'd go ballistic if he turned into some melodramatic, mopey little twit. Psychotic villains >>>>>>>> angst-buckets any day of the week.
Kinda wierd that Ash is pretty much THE most popular KoF character in Japan atm. I just don't see what they like about him. He's ok to play with, but Robert Garcia beats him as a Remy clone in the console version. I don't get it...
See, by now Ash has beaten both Chizuru and Iori, and they're considered two of the toughest characters in the series. (Although it wasn't like they were at full power at the time).
That, combined with the waxy green flames, means that Ash is the strongest and most... unique-looking fighter at the moment. And THAT'S what makes him so popular. If you have friends who were into DBZ, you know how they acted when they first say Broly. Same thing.
Well, he has got a look really popular in Japan, but in Europe or in USA, that style is... weird. Ash looks androgynous. But manly I hate him because his fighting style is very similar to Guile and Remy ¬¬ Ash's weirdo :P
they probably wanted a villian as a protagnist. his cheeky behavior makes people underestimate him and he does stuff in a cowardly/backstabbing way; very effective as a villian. Hes fun to play and probably better than guile/remy when used as leader.
Like Venom from the Guilty Gear series. He wanted to kill Millia Rage so he can have Zato-1 for himself. Even though Millia isn't really in love with him (since she knows Zato is completely evil).
It's been over a week, and I still haven't come across the reference. It's probably gonna keep nagging at me until I figure it out, so could you please tell me what it is?
Breath-taking soundtrack, my favourite KOF song, by far !!
speedsterh 2 months ago
My favorite theme from XI.
WildBuster 3 months ago
ash sucks fucking arse
95stangdude 10 months ago
Bet! (Flings playing card)
VagrantNoName 11 months ago
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YatenLegacy 1 year ago
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YatenLegacy 1 year ago
man ash is boy or girl ?? some one answer me please
MultiRJ69 1 year ago
@MultiRJ69 he is a boy
TheBlackSMA 1 year ago
This time is composed of Oswald the card master, Shen Woo the Chinese street fighter and Ash Crimson's GIANT SEVERED HEAD. AWWW YEAH~
OnyxNexion 1 year ago
@OnyxNexion Cool. That severed head... I'd still hit it.
harboringanomalies 1 year ago
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OnyxNexion 1 year ago
great i can't play this if i buy ps3... T_T
NubCB 1 year ago
ooOoO ASH LOVE
NEST730 1 year ago
Kyo Kusanagi & Ash Crimson are the men. Hope if their ''Animality'' are dragons.
LOKBLUDOM3N 1 year ago
Makes you wonder if Ash would have been a better antagonist if he was just a girl instead of a girlish man.
BrickCity4eva 1 year ago
1:51 WRYYYYYYYYY!
harboringanomalies 1 year ago
Ah Ash... Probably my favorite KOF original "hero" , just because of his fighting style, eons better than Kyo, Iori or K' style in my opinion....Maybe because i'm a Guile, Charlie/Nash and Remy player.
streetfighterxd 1 year ago
Damn, why didn't Oswald (and Marin and other chars from the NESTS saga) return in XIII? :/
I'd take Oswald any day over fucking Hwa Jai :/
kokubunji 1 year ago 12
Especially when half Hwa's moves are the fucking same as Joe's. Thanks, SNK.
FlameAdder 1 year ago 2
@FlameAdder They might be the same but Joe have defensive moves as for Hwa's it concentrates on offensive one. Take a look at Joe's Tiger Kick and Hwa's Dragon Kick.
SonGOKUSSJ6 1 year ago
That means absolutely nothing to me.
FlameAdder 1 year ago
@kokubunji Right on, man.
AliTheGOAT 11 hours ago
I can't believe these guys were supposed to be the heroes of this Saga.
I want NESTS back ;~;
TheDogbin 1 year ago
Like this theme. :D
FlipReaper1986 2 years ago 3
The Power Of a New Gen.
badmilk6 2 years ago
In all honesty, I think they made Ash a guy so that people wouldn't perve all over the character. What do you guys think?
MerlinsJester 2 years ago
That...Didn't stop anybody.
TheftOfChocolate 2 years ago
Duh. The futa freaks prolly went nuts...
MerlinsJester 2 years ago
Great theme, I would like to see KoF XI in XBLA, an PSN for download with online play ;)
LansTartare 2 years ago
So he isn't a creepy 20 something...he's a creepy 16 year old...that seems like a closet sexual predator...
KDavisJr86 2 years ago 2
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OmegaChosen0 2 years ago
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OmegaChosen0 2 years ago
Huh..Ash ain't insane..Yamazaki is completely bat shit crazy..Ash only cares about power and that is it..being selfish a jackass etc...and Benimaru started the Effeminate Gay thing I mean a skin tight top!..sigh
OmegaChosen0 2 years ago 4
Benimaru gets points for at least being visibly ripped- even if slim- and most especially for being a shootboxer, which was basically mixed martial arts decades before the UFC came around. Ash is a freckle-faced rail-thin teenager, has a ludicrous fighting stance, and seems to win all his fights in-story by having better flamey powers than anyone else rather than actually outfighting them.
What I'd REALLY like to see is Gai Tendo putting on some asbestos jammies and breaking him in half :-)
ooogooman 2 years ago 2
... isn't Ash a girl?...
MerlinsJester 2 years ago
No, he's a guy
Siberianhusky89 2 years ago 2
Crap.
MerlinsJester 2 years ago
It's understandable, my friend wants to bang him but he's not gay. We call Ash the lesbian though.
Siberianhusky89 2 years ago
Behold the power of a new generation
OmegaChosen0 2 years ago
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OmegaChosen0 2 years ago
Whoa dude whats up with the desciption box!?
Ash is The man!The best!
ASH Is the greatest character in history of
Fighting games.
GokaishuSonOfGouki 2 years ago
Then why does your username not contain "Ash"?
KDavisJr86 2 years ago
Shen woo rulez! thats why i like this song!!! yeah!
tuvijaselacome 2 years ago
Ash:"Effeminate punk kid" huh?nobody says any thing about benimaru Being effeminate....and speaking of clones
I Could rip on ryo all day.
AshCrimsonLordofKOF 2 years ago
I was wondering..who is oswald in ash's team
PaulineYanson 2 years ago
Ash is my favourite KoF character (along with King,) but thats just my opinion.
howtoread 3 years ago
REST IN PEACE KUSANAGI
Ash FTW!
GokaishuSonOfGouki 3 years ago 5
He's the fighting game equivalent of a troll! XD <--- BEST DEFINITION EVER. And you got a 5 star rating just for mentioning Jean for VF5R.
velvetimpulse 3 years ago 2
I think that Ash just doesn't translate that well to the states if ya know what I mean. (I'm sure he's all the rage in Japan :D)
Kliffdiver 3 years ago 2
Wow, what's with all the Ash Crimson hate? o.o;;
I do love when people call him a Remy clone when Remy himself was a visual clone of Iori Yagami. Then again, people seem to forget that part. :X
KayinAmoh 3 years ago 6
Really? I don't see it. they have similar clothes, but that's all I see. I just think Ash is a plain charge character.
I can't speak for others, but I hate how his rabid fanbase loves him just for being an stylish anti-hero. Sure, his design is stylish and weird, but as a visual kei design, that's how it's supposed to be; that doesn't mean that I'm a bigot for not falling in love with him, as his fans are so eager to claim.
I'm surprised that no one ever mentions Jean from Virtua Fighter 5 R.
drunkenmaster226 3 years ago
Never claimed you to be a bigot. I think he's deliciously evil, and fun to use(great poke character with combo potential when used right). As for the Remy thing, it just bugs me when people say he's a clone of Remy, while disregarding that Remy was a walking Iori. The visual stylings of the two is an obvious rip from Capcom. Then again, 3S needed a "Guile", I guess.
I hear you on the rabid fanbase though. Drives me nuts to keep hearing "ZOMG ASH CRIMSON 4EVA!1!".
Good call with Jean from VF5R!
KayinAmoh 3 years ago
I know you didn't call me a bigot, but that's just the standard response that I get from most Ash fans.
I'm glad you agree with me on the fanbase, though.
drunkenmaster226 3 years ago
Most of the Ash fanbase are non-gamers(mostly female at the risk of sounding sexist). Most of them wouldn't know how to use him if you put a gun to their heads anyways. :X
I'm a K', Kyo, and Kim fan all the way, but Ash Crimson definitely ranks high on my list. :P
KayinAmoh 3 years ago
I like to use Ash Crimson, especially because of his moves are much like Guile's moves...
streetfighterxd 2 years ago
Haha, what's funny is, I never used Guile, and I've been playing SF since SSF2ST, I just recently started using Guile in Netplay thanks to my hours of using Ash on 2003/XI.
You know, after playing both of them completely, I'll have to retract my previous statement of Ash not being a copy...his b+A or b+D are direct mimics of Guile's from ST. Also, they have the same poke combos, like Guile's standing LP to back + MK. Only difference is Ash isn't in range to throw afterwards. Pretty neat.
KayinAmoh 2 years ago
That is sooo true!
Grandmuscle 3 years ago
Ash is indeed a "joker"
Despite what people may say about him, he's still my all time favorite character
dantemustdie00 3 years ago
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ash is a fuckin faggoooooot
No one can't say he's not. And no way Iori could get defeated by that moron. Snk is just turned crazy! Throw away a character loved in the whole world for every detail of his personality for a stupid asshole. What a shame.
666saturno666 3 years ago
Of course he didn't technically defeat Iori. He took his powers in the same way he took Chizuru's. Came on the scene when they were too weak to put up a fight and put them down. In Iori's case he is left defenseless after the Riot of the Blood wears off. When it did, Ash moved in and stole his treasure. Kyo better be on his in KOF XIII because I hear XII will have no storyline whatsoever.
JT7721 3 years ago
Ash:Well i did beat him
AshCrimsonLordofKOF 2 years ago
the power of new generation
orihime003 3 years ago 5
oswald is a card master! XD i wonder if he plays yu-gi-oh
otomeangel 3 years ago 36
LOL!!! xD
OmegaUnknow 3 years ago 4
Yugioh , pokemon , magic ... yes xD
Evejuve9 3 years ago 2
Oswald doesent play Yu-gi-oh.
It´s made by Konami.
:P
Sephiroth5008 2 years ago 5
LOL!
ArbitratingMist 2 years ago
lol! imagine all five cards in his hand is the 5 parts of exodia lol = instant kill XD
PaulineYanson 2 years ago
Fuck yeah, Exodia Oswald!
I can almost see the mugen edit!
Sephiroth5008 2 years ago
ash looks like a girly boy
orihimeOO3 3 years ago 19
The way I read it is that Ash was made to make a character that ppl felt bad for liking because he was an antagonist. Or something to that effect. But he just doesnt measure up to the other hero's & villians.
windego999 3 years ago
ash is a shade of gray.
da43ed 3 years ago
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windego999 3 years ago
What do you mean a shade of gray??
windego999 3 years ago
Neither black or white (morally), nor good or evil, but somewhere in between. That's how most Ash fans describe him, and how they justify his status as a main character.
He's still just a super-hyped Visual Kei design, tho.
drunkenmaster226 3 years ago
Yeah I mean he feels like a clone of guile or Remy from SF3. Plus I dont like how he acts all frail and stuff.
I mean if he's popular in Japan it's cause ppl think he's tough. BUT he didnt beat Chizuru cause all he did is sneak up on her and take the yata mirror from her. As for beating Iori in the "Riot of Blood" state I imagine he used the Yata Mirror to help him win in some way...
windego999 3 years ago
Not to mention that he popped up after Iori already dealt with Kyo and Shingo, so it's not like he was 100%.
It wouldn't even bug me that much if his fans didn't point to that particular moment as The Sole Reason Why Ash Is TEH BEST CHARACTER EVA!!!1!!X3
But meh.
drunkenmaster226 3 years ago
They do? Oh c'mon it's not like it's and unbeatable form. he jsut becomes crazy and fast. that's it. Plus like you said he wasnt at 100% power ATM.
I know Iori's "Riot of blood" State is powerful but isn't it supposed to be a "fake" Orochi trasnformation?
I mean if he had true orochi wouldn't he gain more powers like the "new faces" team?
Also yashiro's orochi state sucks. he doesnt even get a real element like Shermie(Who I love using in her normal form) and Chris(anoyin little punk...)
windego999 3 years ago
Remember, when Iori goes crazy in a cutscene, a minimum of 2 people tend to get curbstomped, if not outright killed. So in that respect, it's sort of important.
Also, Yashiro has the power of earth. So his power is using the planet itself - mainly by slamming you into it again and again and again and again.....and again and again... then using a DM to slam you again and again and...
*keeps repeating "again" for 20 min.*
drunkenmaster226 3 years ago
True but when I said he doesnt get a real element i meant something he could call upon like Shermie has lighting and Chris Fire. He just get's earth and super strength. It would've been cool if he could make a big earth spike come up and impale someone or something like that. What I;m trying to say is they should done a better job at showing his earth power without resorting to simply throwing ppl around. That's what ppl like Daimon and Shermie are for. And why did they make Daimon so emotionles
windego999 3 years ago
He's not emotionless, just serious. Even Terry knows that sometime you gotta GET SIRIUS.
Anyway, we're kind of filling this page up with comments, aren't we?
drunkenmaster226 3 years ago
Yeah I'll stop now :P
windego999 3 years ago
by shade of gray i mean an ambiguous character who is not the traditional hero(white) nor the traditional villain, but something in the middle(gray)- an anti hero/ unheroic hero.
da43ed 3 years ago
ash is a tranny
raohdensetsu 3 years ago
Ash fails as a Hero against K and fails as Villain against Yamazaki.
"He's the fighting game equivalent of a troll!" Thats... just... Perfect!
Sephiroth5008 3 years ago
great
SOYELPLANB 3 years ago
This reminds me of a GGXX track. Well parts of it.
wheavel99 3 years ago
Funny you saying that considering Ash completely thrashed Iori. Easy-peasy just like pie.
Lawrblood 3 years ago 2
K' is my favorite. he's not good nor bad. he's just him. ash is evil. and i don't think that ash is orochi. if he's orochi, he has to be born before the death of chris.
kdsbsb 3 years ago 2
I think the character design is great, at the begenning i didn't liked it at all... but in time I come to love it!, I don' think Ash is Gay but effeminate, the way he acts swits him real great
fathervincentbest 3 years ago 2
I just wish that Ash doesn't have to turn into Orochi... let Ash be Ash please!... it'll be a shame of he doesn't appear in future installements
fathervincentbest 3 years ago 2
I adore Ash because he's both hated and loved for what he is. Never expected that- too many people like Kyo, Iori and goody-goodies like Alba Meira in fighting games.
Go ahead and whine about his popularity. Never saw an 'evil' personality do so well.
Lawrblood 3 years ago 2
Shen Woo reminds me alot of the British boxer, Steve Fox from the "Tekken" series especialy if you color edit him.
ZeitgeistXII 3 years ago 2
Ash is full of shit. Simply as that. Why don't more people remember that Ash is THE OROCHI (seen in the rival team KOF XI ending) who WANTS TO KILL ALL HUMANS?!? "Oh yeah- he wants to kill me, and he also, separately, has no respect for me, but I like him a lot for those reasons" WHAT THE F*CK?!?
quicktooth1 3 years ago
And before people call me a troll- this theme song is cool and Shen and Oswald are the BOMB. Especially Shen. And Oswald. How 'street-hero-awesome' is Shen? And how cool is it to take a CARD GAME (Karnoffel) and be so good with it you can use it as a FIGHTING STYLE?!
quicktooth1 3 years ago
I actually admire the philosiophy of Orochi. He values nature more than human life (no surprise) and considers mankind a parasitic pile of shit on the face of the earth. That's pretty f*cking true if you ask me; yes, I am aware of the hypocricy.
But Ash is too much of a pathetic bitch to deserve association with such a force. Come on, what kind of a jerk-off walks shaking his ass in every direction?
Heavenlyjupiter 3 years ago
Those are... really good points. All of them would be true if not for the Rival Team ending in KOF XI. Elizabeth Blanctorche identifies "Ash" as The Orochi, after 'he' says "I'm not the person I used to be". His eyes (glowing, evil) also kinda gave it away. Ash Crimson, the original, WASN'T The Orochi. But he was (to quote an ending comment by "ash")- "Don't reveal your trump card till the end- the very end!". His body became like Chris'.
quicktooth1 3 years ago
So sad that that truly pathetic kid was SO pathetic that he was the last person anyone would ever suspect- there was no one who thought to save him!
As for the Orochi; yeah he/it is pretty admirable in some respects. It's just sad that he/it became (far as I can tell) so frustrated with humanity that he/it decided to KILL ALL OF HUMANITY AS A SPECIES OFF. I'd love someone to be able to TELL the Orochi how to do things so that that wasn't necessary- that would be a MEMORABLE ending! :)
quicktooth1 3 years ago
Ash is the teenager sociopath of the game, not a psychopath, not yet anyway
Shen and Oswald = WIN
diego10k 3 years ago 4
Sociopath is just another word for psychopath. Besides, did you see that creepy smile of his in the opening and in the Rival Team's ending?
drunkenmaster226 3 years ago
yeah I did, but I meant that more of hte Dissocial personality disorder , yes yes
But anyway, he's just a 16-year-old punk, give him some time lol
diego10k 3 years ago
I never knew that he was 16 lol, now that I look at him he does look a bit juvenile. Might be the freckles.
Shady424 3 years ago
It Chris gay dude over youtube XD!
Nah Ash is still bad ass!
trigun1886 3 years ago
Their previous theme (Splendid Evil) was better... This one's still good though, and I like the sample use, it's a trademark from the KOF series dating as far as 94.
About Ash, he could very well be a hero and doing all this for a higher purpose, faking his intentions... But I find surprising that he got more popular than the previous hero K', who is much better looking and more interesting gameplay-wise.
voutespancar 3 years ago 4
Utterly true. Why the heck is *ASH* more popular the the much-better-in-every-way-literally K'? K' is great to play as and has an interesting story.
quicktooth1 3 years ago
Oswald = coolest old guy ever
Kuwaga1 3 years ago
yugioh master lol
kamikohime 3 years ago
I don't think Ash is either psychotic or angsty. Why is psychotic good. It takes all the emotional weight right out of a character if the only motivations or factors they have for doing anything is that 'they're just crazy'. Ash is more interesting the way he is.
Selfish and amoral.
Marquisguilford 3 years ago
It's because we Japanese aren't as homophobic as Americans.
Played out characters are 'in your face' and American style 'badass'.
Lawrblood 3 years ago
True, but those types of characters died out in the '90s anyway. Now it's all about angst.
Honestly, as unimpressive as Ash is to me, I think I'd go ballistic if he turned into some melodramatic, mopey little twit. Psychotic villains >>>>>>>> angst-buckets any day of the week.
drunkenmaster226 3 years ago
You're not Japanese
You're over generalizing
'in your face' and American style 'badass'
The entire series is based around the idea of two-dimensional badasses FIGHTING, why are you even talking about this nonsense
Marquisguilford 3 years ago
Oswald is Awesome and Shen is really fun to play!
But Ash... Not only a Remy Clone, no a weird, cowardly and gay Remy Clone! And from the look of the story he may become a main Vilain
(He is Colecting all those powers isnt he? what is he up to besides looking for more?
if u see the anime he burns down Southtown while huntig down kyo!)
Geese is not going just turn in hes Grave, he came as Secret Char back and now i can kick Ash ass with him! Thank u Geese!!!
Oh and Awesome theme 5/5
Sephiroth5008 3 years ago
Remy clone... if i think few minutes.. is remy clone.. same move... french characters... but... Remy isnt gay... Ash yes xD
OmegaUnknow 3 years ago
I found Shen and Oswald very interesting chars, but Ash... Sorry for their fans, but I hate him (or her) lol
HoundShock 3 years ago 2
Kinda wierd that Ash is pretty much THE most popular KoF character in Japan atm. I just don't see what they like about him. He's ok to play with, but Robert Garcia beats him as a Remy clone in the console version. I don't get it...
Shady424 3 years ago 2
I like to call it "The Broly Effect".
See, by now Ash has beaten both Chizuru and Iori, and they're considered two of the toughest characters in the series. (Although it wasn't like they were at full power at the time).
That, combined with the waxy green flames, means that Ash is the strongest and most... unique-looking fighter at the moment. And THAT'S what makes him so popular. If you have friends who were into DBZ, you know how they acted when they first say Broly. Same thing.
drunkenmaster226 3 years ago
Oops, I meant "saw", not say. Stupid idle fingers.
drunkenmaster226 3 years ago
I'm agree with you, but I hate him. I prefer Kyo, or Terry xD
HoundShock 3 years ago 4
O.o
BROLY!?
You just say both there names in one line and is has nothing to do with RIPPING SOME FRIGGIN HEADS OFF!? WTF!?
XD
i,m just kidding around, and i also think that does green Flames are cool.
Still, anytime i see ash, i Like to ask him if hes ok...
BUSTA WOLF!!!
Sephiroth5008 3 years ago 2
Well, he has got a look really popular in Japan, but in Europe or in USA, that style is... weird. Ash looks androgynous. But manly I hate him because his fighting style is very similar to Guile and Remy ¬¬ Ash's weirdo :P
HoundShock 3 years ago
the best music of KOF series
and works perfectly in XI matches,
because song is frenetic and loud
BobsKofpoint 3 years ago
"The power of a new generation!"
maikutx 3 years ago 7
Ditto!
HoundShock 3 years ago
Ehh i still love him =3 lol
Katzblager 3 years ago
they probably wanted a villian as a protagnist. his cheeky behavior makes people underestimate him and he does stuff in a cowardly/backstabbing way; very effective as a villian. Hes fun to play and probably better than guile/remy when used as leader.
mohitoride 3 years ago
Ash = Him from Powerpuff girls
Shady424 3 years ago 2
Uuuh, Ash is supposed to be the first (actual) gay King of Fighter main character.
That is why he looks like a pussy.
dollargig 3 years ago
That doesn't explain his tired-ass psycho character trait.
drunkenmaster226 3 years ago
Sometimes gay people act crazy.
Like Venom from the Guilty Gear series. He wanted to kill Millia Rage so he can have Zato-1 for himself. Even though Millia isn't really in love with him (since she knows Zato is completely evil).
dollargig 3 years ago
... that comment is offensive in so many ways. -_-;;
Bttscks 3 years ago 2
Sorry, it is just that he is kinda gay in so many ways.
I mean, he is not like Benimaru who looks gay but acts straight.
dollargig 3 years ago 2
shen = pure powah
Kuwaga1 3 years ago
ash rulessssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
urameshibrasil 3 years ago 2
shen wu the strongest of them all and i know how to charge on him!!!
kimimarux29 3 years ago
I like Oswald and Shen way more than Ash. In future instalments I hope they get some more story-time.
piterdevries 3 years ago
Ash, I enjoy playing as him but I don't like the character himself. I made a custom color edit that has Remy's colors.
Shen Woo is the fucking shit. Simply put.
Oswald's a very unique character. He's like an old, creepy version of Gambit... In a suit.
Shady424 3 years ago 2
I wouldn't say he's like Gambit, specifically, but that's the only popular character that fights with cards, so I agree with you on that point.
Other than that, I agree 100%.
drunkenmaster226 3 years ago
Oswald reminds me much more of Hellsing's Walter.
Archonus 3 years ago
Now that I think about it, he reminds me of Darby from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure a bit
Shady424 3 years ago
Darby? Really? Sure, Oswald would be an awesome gambler, but Darby isn't man enough to fill Oswald's shoes.
drunkenmaster226 3 years ago
True, but nothing compares to "STOWY MWADE"
**sees who gets reference**
Shady424 3 years ago
It's been over a week, and I still haven't come across the reference. It's probably gonna keep nagging at me until I figure it out, so could you please tell me what it is?
drunkenmaster226 3 years ago
His engrish in the Capcom JJBA CPS3 game.
Shady424 3 years ago
Ah, thank you. I've actually never played that game before, although I've heard of it.
drunkenmaster226 3 years ago
First KOF soundtrack in SNKP era that is good. Nah, more than good, KOF XI soundtrack is awesome! And this one is the best music of the game.
Long life for KOF music.
kisaragi95 3 years ago
i agree, brother
DiegoRC4 3 years ago
Yeah, it's the first good KOF soundtrack since '96.
Now 96 arranged, THAT was a soundtrack.
houou100 3 years ago
The 3 are great fighters! Cool song
DiegoRC4 3 years ago
the arrange version is so fucking powerful!
torou2 3 years ago 2
i like em all and tis song!
tomgirl1324 3 years ago
I'm not much of an Ash fan myself, but Oswald and Shen are excellent.
TheKnightWolf 3 years ago 4