Battlefields: "Fall of France" 10 of 12

[StaffanGoldschmidt]

the artillery shown are not 88 guns!!!!!!

[MrLasicak]

What irony, it was czech tanks orignaly designed to beat nazis, which reached chanell and cut of french and british forces. Benefit of Munich "bussines" :-/

[donthr]

french will ever be that low... easy traget

[Abridgedfan134]

Thank God that Hitler was so naive and stopped at Dunkirk

[PanzerGrenadierLSSAH]

Hitler doesn't get the credit as a military commander he deserves. Although his grasp of strategy and tactics were poor he managed to build the Wehrmacht and embraced revolutionary thinkers such as Heinz Guderian and built up a military force which was well ahead of its time. His political skills were outstanding and he outfoxed the allies in the early days. On top of that he could motivate people like no other.

[tool619]

yeah, but his stubborness on the 'no retreat' on the Eastern Front cost the germn army

[mokdadmm]

Yet, it seems as if Hitler was pleading for the British. His stop at Dunkirk was his biggest mistake where he was expecting to make a treaty with the Bridish and build up ties with them. Yet, this tactic made him loose cridibility as a smart and wise commander.

[diadorim1234]

"a military force which was well ahead of its time."

that isnt true. german armor was inferior to both french and russian. the stuka was easily shot down in the batlle of britain. only german squad commanders were superior to the allies.

[PanzerGrenadierLSSAH]

Wrong... German doctrine and military thought was well ahead of the allies. It isn't what you have its how you use it.

[12Oc7ock]

German Armor wasn't inferior to anyone's Armor. The only fucking tanks that could defeat the Panzers was the Russian T34s and that's because the Soviets were producing like ten thousand of the fucking things every day.

[RedPower012]

German Armor was very pathetic until it was too late. The Russian KV-1 and T34 had armor that almost no German tank could penetrate. Had the crews had proper training and more then a couple hundred models in 41 Germany would have never made it 10k into Russia. But sadly The Russians were often outnumbered and outgunned and out-trained. until late 1942.

[diadorim1234]

"The Russian KV-1 and T34 had armor that almost no German tank could penetrate. "

Thats true, but also there design was superior and there 76mm gun more powerfull then the german 5,0 or 3,7. And the sturmovnik divebomber was superior to the stuka. All is all the russians had one the best armies in the world, unfortunatelly poorly lead...until 1942

[RedPower012]

No the biggest problem was that the Russians were outnumbered. If you look at the numbers it apears that Russia has the numerical advantage, but if you investigate closer of the 11,000 aircraft in the Russian arsenal about 500!! were modern while the rest were biplanes, of the 12,000 tanks about 300 were t34s and 100 KV-1s. Of the 3.2 million troops only about 1 million were true soldiers. Now compare German 3.2 million troops, 3,600 tanks and 4,400 aircraft all modern and trained.

[RedPower012]

But yes leadership was very poor due to inexperience. Had the Russians even numbers it would have been much tougher on the Germans, not that they didn't complain about resistance as it was. With leadership and proper preparation however Russia could have actually pushed into Germany in 1941.

[serialkiller1990]

xD Thats a good one...

A week (or even less) later more than 5mln (1mln true soldiers xD)

11000 aircraft where combat ready (there where 35-40000 overall, and most (not all) of them was obsolete (look what Poles done, outnumbered and with inferior aircraft but still they had an huge advantage in numbers.

12000 tanks!?! 300 T-34?!?!?

You mean 15000 to 25000 overall, and 850 T-34, and 500 KV-1, against 750 PZII, 780, PZ35/38, 1000PZIII, and 440PZIV, event T-28 could deal with most of them.

[12Oc7ock]

The Stuka was a bomber you fool, all bombers are shot down easy. And German armor was far superior in firepower and armor than anyone's tanks.

[KronprinzAdam]

It was true in 1940-42 French and British were advancing slowly and their leaders had no realistic vision or perspective of victory. According to a BBC report, they were trying to block the german advance and in 2 or 3 years, ·"make a final advance into Germany" after a huge economical build-up. Germans circled them and left them in a hopeless situation. Russians in 1940 were beaten even by smaller finnish armies, although they had better tanks.

[KronprinzAdam]

British and french have heavier tanks, but no concept of "panzerdivision". In 1940-41probably the best tank of the world was the Panzer IV. Russia had a few heavy tanks, including a very powerful model called "KV". US Sherman was comparable to the Pz IV and I think a little bit more powertul than Pz III. Stukas could operate just with air superiority: they were relatively slow. Fw190 replaced it later in the war.

[12Oc7ock]

His commanders were the military genuises behind his supposed military genuis. Field Marshal Von MAnstein was the architect of the pincer tactic that took France and Hitler told the world he was the one that devised the strategy. Hitler didn't give the credit or respect where it was due which is why alot of his generals turned on him towards the end.

[jakefree25]

True he had good military instincts and was more open to new ideas than the old line Junkers. His Generals blamed him for a lot of their incompetence. For instance, the ABWEHR, army intelligence, underestimated Soviet strenght by 70%