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  • good work here

  • some sweet info here

  • I love youtube sometimes.

  • I enjoyed this and thought i knew more then i realy did know. I feel kind of dumb indeed.

  • If the mind was only evolved to form beliefs that were helpful for survival value, then how do you account for people who believe in anti-natalism?

    watch?v=14rTSF-A4Uw

  • @zarkoff45

    His comments regarding infanticide address this, not quite directly, but one could easily make some extrapolations from these ideas. It's about ten minutes into the vid, but in brief the reasons he states are:

    1. insufficient resources

    2. not your own offspring

    3. offspring quality

  • Its amazing these creationist lack the "intelligents" to educate themselves on the topics they wish to dispute. DARWIN ROCKS, BITCHES.

  • Evolution is not good enough for anyone.

    Mutations are not able to order anything. They can only change the genome of a viable life form.

    watch?v=qZev7hb40uk

  • ANY LIFE ON MARS CAME FROM EARTH! Please read my Internet article published in Pravda. Just google the title.

  • NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible in nature (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). Besides, species couldn't have survive with vital tissues, organs, biological systems still evolving? I discuss Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA." Read Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species.

  • DNA proves macro evolution is a false theory - why don't these evolutionists study DNA science?- DNA cannot positively mutate - it actually has an inbuilt repair system because mutations/errors are so harmful - macro evolution is pure fantasy...it has been dispoved and is not science - its religion!

  • @TREACLE97 What about “Junk DNA”? The latest science shows that "Junk DNA” isn't junk after all! It's we who were ignorant of how useful these segments of DNA really are. Recent research published in scientific journals such as Nature and RNA has revealed that the "non-coding" segments of DNA are essential in regulating gene expression (i.e. when, where, and how genes are expressed in the body). Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!

  • @Mr88playmaker Do you find it difficult to type without opposable thumbs?

  • Arguing over these things online, such as 'they--our opponents--think such & such' is really WEAK: if u folks are confident in ur beliefs, then go ARGUE with these scientists in person, not in a few paragraphs here that they cannot respond-to; AND BTW, I BELIEVE in God & i believe the bible has TONS of symbolism--example: age of Methuselah, etc; SO: 6 days of creation is symbolic of millions of years---UNLESS you think God doesn't have the right to be symbolic when he dictated Genesis to Moses.

  • The guy in the video acts like he can't remember the glaring fact that the entire structure of Evolution Theory is BUILT on the FALSE FOUNDATION of Darwin's "ORIGIN Of The Species". He wonders why people associate ORIGINS with Evolution. Evolutionists are like used car salesmen. They talk about the paint job but don't want you looking under the hood. They are like Realtors trying to sell a flimsy house with no foundation. They can throw a rug over it but people see it and aren't buying it.

  • Atheists can not scientifically defend Evolution. All they can do is attempt to re-frame the argument as one between science and religion. The findings of modern science point away from Evolution and toward Intelligent Design.

    The real argument is one between True Science (Intelligent Design) and false science (Evolution). Richard Dawkins finally blew his cool and stopped pretending to be a scientist. He now writes books promoting atheism & hatred toward God as a way to save Evolution.

  • @Mr88playmaker The Scientific Theory of Evolution would be very easy to disprove - why not simply produce some evidence and do it rather than arguing in YouTube comments?

  • @skinfitz (Quote): "The Scientific Theory of Evolution would be very easy to disprove" (end quote)

    The theory of Evolution was never proven to begin with. DNA has shattered the theory of evolution.

    Plus, remember: there's nothing scientific about the theory of evolution. The entire theory is based on Darwin's Origin Of The Species and as you know, Abiology violates the laws of biology.

  • @Mr88playmaker "The theory of Evolution was never proven to begin with. DNA has shattered the theory of evolution." - Can you show me evidence where evolution has been disproved? Also could you explain to me exactly how 'DNA has shattered the theory of evolution'? I'd be interested to hear your explanation.

  • Empirical proof that Atheists are illogical dummies.

    There are only two options:

    (1) Intelligence arises from an INTELLIGENT source (the MIND of GOD)

    (2) Intelligence arises from a NON-intelligent source.

    To their embarrassment, Atheists are stuck with option no.2 ---- a position that can NOT be logically or scientifically defended.

    FUNNY but TRUE: Atheists maintain that logic arises out of meaningless random chaos and is continually evolving via meaningless random chaos.

    Class dismissed.

  • 1. Biological life forms are the purposeful product of information and language.

    2. Information arises only from a mind.

    3. Symbolic information is neither matter nor energy.

    4. Code requires an author.

    5. Symbolic Info writes your chemicals.

    6. Information writes / creates all things biological and governs them.

  • The reason that most Americans (and Brits and others) do not believe in Evolution is because Evolution is an antiquated, illogical, mathematically & biologically impossible theory dreamed up by some guy who was NOT even a scientist, and that had NO idea what a biological cell was or how it functions. Darwin himself admitted that his ideas and little drawings were dreamed up and that he had zero proof for any of it. His theory may as well have been: Time + chance = monkeys flying outa his butt.

  • Today, Darwin is largely considered an idiot for too many reasons to list here with such limited typing space but here's one example of what DNA teaches us: A single bacteria which existed let's say an infinite-trillions of gazillion years ago could only contain an equal or higher amount of information than would the same bacteria contains today but NOT one iota less. Matter does NOT add info to the genome. Mutations are negatives in that they destroy information (they don't add new info).

  • Evolution = good science fiction at it's best. The evolution theory has no evidence to back it up...No missing links,even Darwin said missing links would have to be found for his theory to be proven. Do you evolutionists actually believe humans and whales have a common ancestor? Evolution says that whales were once land dwelling mammals,hahahahahahahahahahaha­...oh man, you have got to be kidding me. Why are there still apes and monkeys? Shouldn't they be extinct through evolution of man?

  • I believe father christmas is real - its undeniable - everyone knows what he looks like and it just makes sense that he is real - I have even seen the presents he delivers (undeniable evidence) - anyone that does not believe he is real is just denying the evidence, are ignorant and need educating!...thats what I thought when I was 5! If you think evolution (as an answer to mans existence) is a 'literal' fact that should no longer be debated, then perhaps you need to grow up?

  • Here's how the creationists will attack this guy: David Sloan appears to be a JEW. Therefore, anything he says they can roll their eyes at and is therefore invalid because he's part of the liberal propaganda campaign against the TRUTH of Christianity, which states the earth is 6,000 years old. Whether or not he's a jew is irrelevant, Christians don't care, he is because they want him to be one, therefore he's part of the NWO.

  • Creationism and ID don't deserve the label of theory. They are failed hypothesis, nothing more.

  • @BlackRaptor31 Creationism and ID don't deserve the label of hypothesis. They are terrible ideas, nothing more.

  • I stumbled across this vid from the "Beyond Belief '07" series elsewhere on YT, b/c David's talks seem to be pulling me in, just like I searched for Sam Harris vids a while back.

    I have to wonder about myself then, after seeing this vid already: Why is it, that I always had an impression that morality is a scientific question, and that human endeavors i.e. city developments through history, are evolutionary? These guys are saying this stuff is new, but I always had these impressions from youth!?

  • @ctressle that means you're a very smart man you should pass on your genes with an equally intellegent person :P

  • It's interesting to think about the application of Darwin's theory to human societies, cultures & behaviour. But it is difficult to explain which aspects of our behaviour can be explained through evolutionary psychology & which aspects of our behaviour do not have an evolutionary explanation.

  • Just another stinking gutter racist.

    ...and they call this "educational"

  • Can anyone clear up what Prof. Wilson meant regarding Richard Dawkins and group selection at time 46:11?

  • The law of entropy (thermodynamics) disproves evolution...

  • @JcaL416 no, it disproves a god.

  • @JcaL416

    How? Do you even know what entropy and thermodynamics are? Or did you just copy those words off of some creationist talking points website?

  • @JcaL416 : Hey, no comedy comments!

  • great speech!!!

  • great speech!!!

  • great speech!!!

  • @JohnHasSeriousQ - You say: "Scrooby, can you give us a teaser?...Just one fact? ... Give us a reason to take this book seriously." The book itself answers all your questions about Evolution and every doubt you've ever had about God. It would be a disservice to the book to 'tease' anyone. Read the whole book and know, or read none of it and live in ignorance. It's an easy choice. The book is freely available to order from any library, whenever you're ready to face the truth.

  • What a cope-out! I have no doubts about any gods. I was not asking about gods.

    What so-called fact is there that throws Evolution into question? Evolution is supported with literally millions of individual facts like all life is carbon-based and water is necessary for life (on Earth), and many Scientific Laws, like the Law of Common Descent and the Law of Natural Selection, but has no contradictions, not one. It would be devastating to Evolution if you found just one contradiction.

  • @670Kiester

    The Attempted Murder Of God: Hidden Science You Really Need To Know is indeed written by Scrooby. And as scary or exhilarating or as meaningless as it may be to you, the truth is now beyond question. God is real and Evolution is demonstrably false. It's available from all good bookshops, or it's freely available to order from any library in the world.

  • Scoorby, can you give us a teaser? What is one of the main ideas or facts in your book that shows Evolution false? Just one fact? Was this book of yours published as a fiction or a non-fiction? Give us a reason to take this book seriously. I am asking for a very compelling fact in your book that even throws the slightest doubt about Evolution being the best explanation of how life changed into what it is today. Are you a scientist? What field? Have you been nominated for a Nobel?

  • People don't want to apply evolution to social science and the future of humanity because we see ourselves as gods. The thought of humans as equal to everything else in the web of life, evolving to become something new and possibly more conscious, raises too many disturbing questions.

  • Good video. But God is most definitely real and Evolution is most definitely not. If you doubt it, read 'the attempted murder of God' - A critical book at a critical time, it reveals the secrets of science that comprehensively demolish the theory of Evolution and provides scientific proof for God - a scientific certainty kept hidden from the world that in this critical time in history can now be revealed.

  • @byScrooby Oh facepalm to myself! I tried to look up that book to see if perhaps the author had a video here on youtube, and the author is "scrooby", oh that's weird I thought, and there's only an ad for the book here on yt, then the penny dropped, the ad is on your channel, it's YOUR book!

  • In the real experiments with chickens, the experimenter's most basic goal is to select for traits that caused individuals to survive and did not hinder group survivability. From this it is seen that good and evil chickens outcomes are outcomes of the second thought experiment - indeed reinforcing the original model for good and evil, but it seems to be a faulty model, because I agreed with the second experiment even though I disagreed with the first and the third, so the model is in contention.

  • I have a comment on the 'Second thought experiment' - that the all-good group would thrive and the all-evil group would "self-destruct": I agree completely with the general outline that I think this type of thought experiment, and this individual one, were trying to convey. (Or in regular Susan terms - I see, understand and agree!)

    On the third thought experiment: Why leave that hanging, except for that general reason we easily and directly see, that evil slaughters while good wins. But how?

  • So I just got done with 23:16 - "Thought Experiment 1", and I have a comment: My analysis is: of course, the good person (so to speak) is not a fool, and so will not try to be the (so to speak) evil person's friend in the first days of their arrival, but will be sure to fortify in goodness and become secure first, and the evil person (so to speak) will not overpower the good person (which can only exist through the Messiah Jesus). So take heart with that one - the good won't be so easily taken.

  • The quality of this is superiorily high (even enough for it's own from of a word - perhaps..), but the quality of this is poor, for reasons I just mentioned. I hope there is a business rule here to differentiate my actual meaning for rating it with one star.

  • I love you all. Please avoid this great delusion based on a structure of facts that is both real and the natural direction of creationism, too, but which story pieces filling in the gaps between facts are completely skewed in the backwards engineered theory of evolution. I love you all. ..These are facts, but how indeed can you know them? Confess with your mouth the Master - Jesus the Messiah - and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead.

  • Evolution helps humans understand genetics, resulting into greater medicine. What has creationism created?

  • Not a criticism, just an observation. Good talk.

  • I've read D.S. Wilson but have never seen him speak. He's a very awkward man.

  • Awesome! Keep posting great stuff!

  • Defense attorneys play pretend. The dream team pretended OJ didnt do it when they knew the truth. Any defense attoney who protects a killer should be held accountable and killed himself. Yu just dont have the level of intelligence to understand this.

  • @sunflowery You are really proud of just how ignorant you are, huh?

    Considering you have the cognitive ability of 3rd grader...There is more evidence out there for the Theory of Evolution than there is for the Theory of Gravity! Before you try to learn anything you need to pull out a dictionary and learn the difference between "theory" & "Scientific Theory"...Once you have done that you will begin to see just how ignorant your comment was. Then you can actually go look at the evidence.

  • Skyfather. I think you mean the "evidence" and its far-fetched "interpretation". This video is truly a crock of shit. Let's make a deal - you live within your ignorance paradigm and I'll live within mine. Same difference.

  • @sunflowery I guess you have a mental block due to your emotional bond with a certain brand of religion? Seriously, there is no reason why you can't have both your faith and a understanding of the world in which you live.

    There is a world of difference between having "faith" in a deity/religion and understanding facts about the natural world. One can hold both without conflict if one chooses to do so.

  • Skymeathead. Your reply is predictable and runs to script as anticipated. You assume too much. "Facts" and "interpretation" thereof are at issue when it comes to my original assessment of this clip i.e. BULLSHIT.

  • @sunflowery Obviously you need to resort to name calling because you have no clue what you are talking about! Maybe you honestly lack the education or even the cognitive ability understand what you are saying is wrong, who knows.

    Good Luck!

  • Ahaaa can give it but can't take it. You say I'm ignorant . . . I say you're a meathead. Now you confirm to me you're an ignorant meathead a la . . . stay within your ignorance paragidgm and I'll stay in mine . . . again . . . you assume too much.

  • @sunflowery Being ignorant is not a personal attack it is simply the truth...You have no idea what you are talking about. It would be no dif than you saying the Earth is flat. The Bible says its flat so I assume you agree? If not, then why deny evolution when there is just as much evidence supporting it?

    Good Luck in life!

  • Oh sorry. Neither is meathead a personal attack - it's simply the truth. Again you assume too much.

  • @sunflowery

    "This video is truly a crock of shit"

    And your credentials to decide so are...?

  • Momo . . . sorry . . . who are you to ask such a question?

  • Momo . . . and you are . . . .???????????

  • So momo you have a rather high opinion of yourself and plus you assume too much . . . like I said, this video is a crock of shit!

  • Nice talk. However, I don't think his criticism of Dawkins is on the mark. Dawkins, as far as I know, has nothing against the study of religious beliefs as an outcome of the evolutionary process. He is mainly concerned with what is true and what isn't. Nor does he suggest that religious ideas are the only fallacious ones. Dawkins stresses the importance of evidence over any type of ideology; Wilson's description of Dawkins et al. as "religious atheists" is a mischaracterisation.

  • ID does not reject micro evolution or adaptation within a species, you can't lump id and creationism together, please try to be more honest.

  • The Judge in the Dover Trial said "ID is nothing more than Creationism in disguise."

    Who cares if IDers or Creationists claim that micro evolution is true if they then want to use that fact to promote that macro evolution is not true?

    The fact of the matter is that micro evolution repeated over a long period of time IS macro evolution.

  • Watch it first, all, then comment.

  • I watched about half of this. I understand evolution quite well. I also understand how evolutionary thought affects how you form conclusions. I totally agree evolution is more than biology. But this crap about good and evil and the conclusion of the utopic island and the evil island is just that. In nature, what we observe in animals is not necessarily going to apply to us. But predation in itself does.

  • In ecosystems where herbivores lack predators, they overgraze and use up too many resources leaving the ground bare which creates new problems. A member of the audience tried to point this out. In societies where too many predators exist, it is correct they will eat each other up. But since morals, values and our perception of what is right are cultural, I think these simplistic answers are ridiculous.

  • Evolution is web per se. It affects all things interdependently, but also dependently, and this can happen at the same time. I hope this helps people explore evolution more indepth, and I agree the education system is not teaching it properly, but please don't listen to a single source on what evolution is, how it works or why it is so important.

  • Good points you have made. The knowlege about evolution is evolutionary in itself. We are constantly learning more about it. And you're certainly right about the education system. Some people are afraid to explore and address the questions that come up about it. If they did, they would not be disappointed.

  • I am actually more perturbed school boards teach evolution as Darwin saw it and haven't included all we've learned in 150 years!!! It's absolutely ridiculous. We have so much more information, we have many more transitional fossils, we have the field of genetics, bust most of all we've EVOLVED FOR 150 YEARS!

  • Your comment I received is gone already. But as to the institutional education, yes SOME still are 100 years behind, and I had studied evolution through geography and geology which has been using this view point, and evolving for decades, not just 10-15yrs; and when I went back to biology, I was pleasantly surprised they had updated their data to include genetics, and chemistry knowlege that has increased the understanding. My university does not teach the way this guy does, or claims.

  • Yes, the education system is finally learning the relevance of evolution in most fields of science, thus cohesive. I doubt many but those into metaphysics teach the way this guy does.

  • So true. Right out of the Biology 101 book! ;-)

  • You really need to watch the rest of it, then watch it again. Everything this guy says is gold.

  • Gold? Good and evil??? OK, in Eastern philosophy there is a different idea of good and evil than in Western philosophy, so which do we go by? Now, if good and evil exist, what realm do they exist in? Do animals have good and evil? Is this just a human perception? Google the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy and direct me to where these things exist as stated. I don't think his argument was gold, I think it was more an expression Neil deGrasse Tyson calls the 'perimeter of ignorance'.

  • You didn't even watch all of it, how the fuck would you know what this guy is saying then?

    In pretty much any philosophy from any area, traits like generosity, compassion, etc are prized and fairly universal.

    Good and evil exist in the realm of our brains, being a product of human consciousness.

    This person was trying to show how traits that follow along lines of our concept of "good" and "evil", particularly good, can evolve but you stupidly stopped watching so everything you say is BS

  • When you resort to cussing, you lose your argument and I'm not interested in listening to someone with a limited vocabulary. I did state that good and evil are a state of mind. So obviously I'm not as clueless as you think. But I also stated that predation was described inaccurately and the audience member tried to correct him. I listened to half of this because I heard several points that are not accurate in the evolutionary model. So I stopped watching the video because he was wrong.

  • Trying to denigrate what I said because I told you that you are a fucking idiot for making unsound judgments without watching the whole video shows the futility of everything you say and your inability to think with any rational mind.

    Fucking pathetic! If you can't stand seeing real words, I suggest you go crawl back between mommy's legs, maybe she will protect you from the real world you live in!

    Nothing he says about evolutionary model I found is wrong. YOU DID NOT WATCH THE VIDEO! Yawn

  • No watercup, it's not your cussing that bothers me, it's the lack of intellect you possess to express yourself in any intelligent way. There is no point talking with you because you lack the vocabulary needed to form cogent thoughts.

  • Whatever reeferhead, you can't even watch the video, you can make one intelligent, reasoned, evidenced argument against what he is saying, you can't watch the video, you don't know what you are blabbering about, and you are just steaming and trolling because I blasted your ass with facts.

    Pathetic!

  • "you can make one intelligent, reasoned, evidenced argument against what he is saying"

    Thank you, yes I did. Now, a troll is a person who keeps returning to a site to argue with someone. Look in the mirror troll. Reefer head? How in the hell did you come up with that one? Goodbye loser. Enjoy your game.

  • What a loser. You can harp on a typo but continually FAIL in presenting anything of substance or even a clear reasoned argument. You just blather nonsense about a video you didn't even watch! YOU ARE FUCKING INSANE

    Again you fail at providing a reasoned, evidenced argument when you have had numerous chances!

    Your persistent trolling and failure to present rational, evidenced arguments is truly pathetic and your continued attempt at discourse with me is quite ridiculous! GET A LIFE LOSER

    PWNED

  • Watercup, give me your factual reasoned empirical evidence that made you call me a reefer head. Are you getting a clue yet? You need to look back at your posts, where is the evidence for insanity apparent? Now, you seriously want me to argue with an insane person and provide them evidence?

  • I told you, the person in the audience tried to correct the speaker, UC Berkley has a great site on evolution that disputes the speaker, I directed you to my friend's book which is endorsed by his friend Richard Dawkins (an evolutionary biologist), there are others on here who have responded that in their BIOLOGY classes they also learned differently than what the speaker claims...You are just trolling. You are young, you prefer videos about cutting water bottles, why are you wasting my time?

  • You are free to believe any misconceptions you like, but calling me names, making unsubstantiated claims and acting like a complete lunatic are not going to make you right. So why don't you please grow up and grow a brain. I have a life, please get one yourself and let this drop like a normal person would do and stop saying PWNED like a moron. I prefer intellectual conversations. This is my last response, I've tried helping you understand, now I leave you to your ignorance.

  • Grow up, grow a brain.

    Those were MY lines HAHAHAHAHAHA

    Pathetic.

    STOP TROLLING LOSER

    You are fucking insane! Calling me a lunatic when you present no argument, no evidence for any claim, and you can't even watch the whole video, clearly shows a fundamental flaw in all your incoherent ramblings.

    Much of what people learn is wrong, science is routinely updated.

    Fucking pathetic child. WATCH THE VIDEO THEN SHUT UP ASSHOLE

    PWNED YOU AGAIN OMFG ITS EASY TROLLS ARE DUMB

  • You didn't watch the video. You are speaking nonsense you made up off the top of your head.

    Stop wasting youtube's valuable comment space with your trolling bullshit!

  • Its that damn christian right in the republican party. They make it part of thier poitical platform. It is really quite sad,

  • America will be in deep trouble soon if they have that many people who are completely ignorant of science and reality. As countries like India and China develop and progress, the United States will fall behind with a population of ignorants..: (

  • Ohh American is already quite in trouble in that respect. I assure you.

  • @winterstellar Do all you idiot evolutionists all think you're dime-store philosophers who never have to give a straight answer to any question -- ever? I'll ask it again: "What the fuck does "evolution" have to do with science?" Do you have an answer? Or are you just full of shit? (That's a rhetorical question -- I know you're full of shit.) Can you give me an answer, moron? (Or are you going to continue to fart out of your ass?)

  • @camaroontree u r practicing willfull ignorance asking a question like that

  • @mebe84 So I have a question, when the fish came out of the water did it have lungs or gills. Just curious.Or did it take a deep breath and head back for the water. Enquiring minds want to know.

  • @camaroontree what fish r u talking about? maybe the australian lungfish, that has gills and a lung? anymore brilliant questions or comments?

  • @mebe84 Oh you must be talking about the Australian Lungfish who's pulmonary structure in these fish bears no resemblance to that in terrestrial animals.

    You have spoken like a true believer.

  • @camaroontree u incredulously ask for a fish that breathes on land,and i give u one, that has gills and a lung no less, and u r somehow able to find a bullshit reason why that particular fish doesn't count. why the hell would u expect it's pulmonary structure to be like that of terrestrial animals, when it is not one? i have no problem with changing my view on evolution or history as the evidence suggests,u will believe your doctrine no matter what the evidence shows. u r the dogmatist, not i

  • @mebe84 I increduously asked for evidence for evolution-I pointed out that the Lungfish has a pulmonary structure that bears no resemblance to that in terrestrial animals. Youve failed. Class dismissed.

  • @camaroontree Nobody thinks that lungfishes are evolving into land animals. Their air breathing can even be advantageous in the dry season when oxygen levels in the water are low. Fossils of the first tetrapods do have the exact structure you would expect and also match the time period.

  • @DutchNordic Theres an old saying : Never trust a dutchman of any color.

  • @winterstellar oh America doesn't have to worry about india. I can't speak for china but as an indian i can guarantee you that India is still ages away from becoming a scientifically enlightened country. The doctors here still say creepy lines before surgery like i can't say anything it's all in god's hands. Animal worship is still prevalent here. And even the scientists aren't atheists here. And the only atheists you find here are those who have been disillusioned by their misfortunes

  • @jacksparrow011235813 Yes, there are some major, major problems in India still. But I saw recently that they have even started with satelite launches now....but that was maybe not the best example of progress I could have thought of, hehe. It was a shame it blew up. : )

  • @jacksparrow011235813 I agree that there is ignorance everywhere, in every country, including China. The difference here in America is that the ignorant get so much publicity and air time via the mainstream media and that they seem to have highjacked the Republican Party. Most of them don't have the time or the intelligence to listen to something like this. It's easier to stick with their dogma.

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