@AnasNation well maybe but you still wrong so i dont care who beleives me. fact is all of the mentioned statements in the vid clip can be found in in the qran. and ofcourse i make ref to the bible aswell. so there it is. have a nice day
There is not a single unequivocal statement in the entire Bible where Jesus (pbuh) himself says, "I am God" or where he says, "worship me". The following statements in the Bible are attributed to Jesus Christ (pbuh)
It would be more beneficial to discuss the points you made one by one. This way we leave nothing without clear proper understanding.... so this may be a radical change in the way we deal with issues -- a deeper look with a deeper understanding after a deeper discussion -- (even if we end up in disagreement).
@retlifwolley hey look man im never going to joint the cult of mohamed. never ever its a cult man made religion. it takes some things from the bible then rewrites them and then says oh come lets join faiths as in you join us look how much we have in common. wake up and smell the coffe dude. its never going to happen. im not a man that got into this cause my family or parents or friends. we talked b4 i asked some short questions you wrote long replies and still didnt answer the question forget it
@ninnzbinnz you see -- you only want skin deep answers for profound issues. Some people may be able to give you that. On the other hand (I have been refering to one point you made) - I was not calling you to endorce a new faith. If you think it does not suit you you are free not to adopt it. It would be difficult to understand if you can not discuss a point you made. I think yo are wrong - but this is my opinion (and maybe the opinion of 2 billion Muslim people) + other non-Muslims
Zakat which Muslims have to pay is 2.5% of what ever money they did not use for one full year. This money is taken from those who can pay it and given to poor people in that society. This is basically the rich helping the poor in society regarless of their religion. Why should any one find this unfair ! As you can see. I'm dealing still with one point you made and should discuss this point if you wish before moving to other points you made-- this may provide better understanding
non-Muslims who could not pay this tax (Jezya) because their conditions then they are excused and may recieve a monetary help from the money taken from Muslims (Zakat). The idea is to sustain a functional society that can be protected and operated fairly from the people within that society. Why should any one see this unfair. Actually I think you have no idea how much this tax (Jezya) actually is. Its one golden coin per person per year-- compair this to your tax you are paying today to ur state
No compulsion in religion meaning you can endorce any belief you like no one will force you to do other wise if you wish not to. However, living in any state Islamic or non-Islamic everyone despite of their belief must pay some sort of payment to the state to support the infra-structure of the state services-- so your claim this is not fair or does not agree with (no compulsion ) is inaccurate.
I see you like to talk about religion more than politics-- I will play it your way ninnz--
Regarding tax money- Any one in your countery is paying the government at the moment despite the beleif they hold. Why should you object in paying tax in a Muslim state (as any one else) - In a Muslim state Muslims pay obligatory payment (Zakat), however non-Muslims would pay (Jezyah), so why would any one object if these payments are made by every one. This is one point you made and objected to.
well iran is a state and islam is a religion. seperation of church and state is how i see it. i know its hard for some to get a grip of that idea but that is what im talking about. i dobeleive chrisitianity in the bible is the only right faith . i have no problem with iran or other political entities or countries. what people beleive is in the end their choice. but i do things by talking and nothing more. i can only try to tell people about what i have learned. they can listen or not
@ninnzbinnz Why do you beleif christianity is the only right faith ?! -- I know you said other faiths are wrong, but this is not proof to your statment. In otherwords, choice A is not the only right choice because choices B,C,D are wrong. You have to have an independent evidence that you base your choice on and that proof is satisfactory enough (in its own) to proof statment/ or choice A. It would be even better if you could provide multiple lines of evidence- as supporting lines for the proof.
I think you have touched very quickly on many points that need more time to look into- this may explain the superficial understanding of these points that you express- I like the fact you question things. However, I think you need to take things slowly to understand the real picture- I will get in touch with you on this matter if Allah wells.
ps: for your information - Iran is a good friend to the USA despite the media news. Can you see why I adopt this view or do you believe the media?
Nice try....
No one will believe what you are trying to say...
poor christians
AnasNation 1 month ago
@AnasNation well maybe but you still wrong so i dont care who beleives me. fact is all of the mentioned statements in the vid clip can be found in in the qran. and ofcourse i make ref to the bible aswell. so there it is. have a nice day
ninnzbinnz 1 month ago
I liked it. Christianity 4 life. Islam is fake as phuck
Born2Punch 2 months ago
Why do you have a pair of slacks on your head?
hamzah938 5 months ago
@hamzah938 well if you need me to answer that you might need your head checked.
ninnzbinnz 5 months ago
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There is not a single unequivocal statement in the entire Bible where Jesus (pbuh) himself says, "I am God" or where he says, "worship me". The following statements in the Bible are attributed to Jesus Christ (pbuh)
"My Father is greater than I."
T.Bible, John 14:28
"My Father is greater than all."
The Bible, John 10:29
"…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God…."
The Bible, Mathew 12:28
"…I with the finger of God cast out devils…."
The Bible, Luke 11:20
Tango198817 10 months ago
It would be more beneficial to discuss the points you made one by one. This way we leave nothing without clear proper understanding.... so this may be a radical change in the way we deal with issues -- a deeper look with a deeper understanding after a deeper discussion -- (even if we end up in disagreement).
retlifwolley 10 months ago
@retlifwolley hey look man im never going to joint the cult of mohamed. never ever its a cult man made religion. it takes some things from the bible then rewrites them and then says oh come lets join faiths as in you join us look how much we have in common. wake up and smell the coffe dude. its never going to happen. im not a man that got into this cause my family or parents or friends. we talked b4 i asked some short questions you wrote long replies and still didnt answer the question forget it
ninnzbinnz 10 months ago
@ninnzbinnz you see -- you only want skin deep answers for profound issues. Some people may be able to give you that. On the other hand (I have been refering to one point you made) - I was not calling you to endorce a new faith. If you think it does not suit you you are free not to adopt it. It would be difficult to understand if you can not discuss a point you made. I think yo are wrong - but this is my opinion (and maybe the opinion of 2 billion Muslim people) + other non-Muslims
retlifwolley 10 months ago
Zakat which Muslims have to pay is 2.5% of what ever money they did not use for one full year. This money is taken from those who can pay it and given to poor people in that society. This is basically the rich helping the poor in society regarless of their religion. Why should any one find this unfair ! As you can see. I'm dealing still with one point you made and should discuss this point if you wish before moving to other points you made-- this may provide better understanding
retlifwolley 10 months ago
non-Muslims who could not pay this tax (Jezya) because their conditions then they are excused and may recieve a monetary help from the money taken from Muslims (Zakat). The idea is to sustain a functional society that can be protected and operated fairly from the people within that society. Why should any one see this unfair. Actually I think you have no idea how much this tax (Jezya) actually is. Its one golden coin per person per year-- compair this to your tax you are paying today to ur state
retlifwolley 10 months ago
which means a family of five people will have to pay five golden coins per year for that house hold.
retlifwolley 10 months ago
No compulsion in religion meaning you can endorce any belief you like no one will force you to do other wise if you wish not to. However, living in any state Islamic or non-Islamic everyone despite of their belief must pay some sort of payment to the state to support the infra-structure of the state services-- so your claim this is not fair or does not agree with (no compulsion ) is inaccurate.
retlifwolley 10 months ago
I see you like to talk about religion more than politics-- I will play it your way ninnz--
Regarding tax money- Any one in your countery is paying the government at the moment despite the beleif they hold. Why should you object in paying tax in a Muslim state (as any one else) - In a Muslim state Muslims pay obligatory payment (Zakat), however non-Muslims would pay (Jezyah), so why would any one object if these payments are made by every one. This is one point you made and objected to.
retlifwolley 10 months ago
well iran is a state and islam is a religion. seperation of church and state is how i see it. i know its hard for some to get a grip of that idea but that is what im talking about. i dobeleive chrisitianity in the bible is the only right faith . i have no problem with iran or other political entities or countries. what people beleive is in the end their choice. but i do things by talking and nothing more. i can only try to tell people about what i have learned. they can listen or not
ninnzbinnz 10 months ago
@ninnzbinnz Why do you beleif christianity is the only right faith ?! -- I know you said other faiths are wrong, but this is not proof to your statment. In otherwords, choice A is not the only right choice because choices B,C,D are wrong. You have to have an independent evidence that you base your choice on and that proof is satisfactory enough (in its own) to proof statment/ or choice A. It would be even better if you could provide multiple lines of evidence- as supporting lines for the proof.
retlifwolley 10 months ago
I think you have touched very quickly on many points that need more time to look into- this may explain the superficial understanding of these points that you express- I like the fact you question things. However, I think you need to take things slowly to understand the real picture- I will get in touch with you on this matter if Allah wells.
ps: for your information - Iran is a good friend to the USA despite the media news. Can you see why I adopt this view or do you believe the media?
retlifwolley 10 months ago