Leading the Black Church Forward: Black, gay and a Seminarian

[roxdoublevenus]

I love you! : )

[cymonebreathe]

my hero

[reenock]

please forgive my expletives, but shit is shit in my book, no matter how steeped in rhetoric and fervor it is. Flip it, turn it, fry it, bake it, bread it...at the core it's still shit. Jesus aint say nothing on being gay, but the way a put down people act as badly, IF NOT WORSE, than those that have put them down is just.....HORRIBLE. it's not just the black church, but i just have to be honest, i expected more. oh, but humanity did kill Jesus so i shouldn't be surprised. Even Peter had a knife

[reenock]

I'm sick of people equating homosexuality to child molestation, rape, murder and every degenerative behavior . I'm tired of black woman putting down gay brothers when Paul said YALL SHOULD SHUT UP IN CHURCH? Just like the human body, the body of Christ really got some sick shit goin on, and it's a shame. But wait till slavery comes on the table, errybody gonna wanna KUMBAYA and hold hands and be a big happy family again. ms celebrity, did Christ die so you could be a celebrity? really?

[reenock]

Brother, ino what you mean. i left the church when i heard the minister using the word FAGGOT. What? When did Jesus say that? People interjecting their cultural biases with pathetic cultural perspective just equals control and power schemes. The same thing that led to Jesus being strung up. When black folk do what a country and WORLD did to them is just shameful. Church culture is the same thing that demanded Pilot to kill Christ. aint that funny how black folk just do the same thing.

[godswordtv]

God has not, and will not change. Sex outside of marriage is falling short, is there grace? Yes, but God is just. And if you are married and having sex it's legal. And I don't by that argument, I was born that way... I was born screwed up too... but I got Born AGAIN!!! This young man may love God, Believe in God, serve God, Preach God... There will be may that say Lord, Lord... you know the rest of the story... If not read IT!!!

[firstjohn313]

PART FIVE: MY Bible even tells me that a man's foes shall be them of his own household (or his own community, as far as I'm concerned). Once I began to surround myself with a better class of people and get from around the Black ones, I began to really grow spiritually. Soon I will be doing even greater things with my special degree-program and wealth, and trust me, I won't look back. I commend you, Dustin Baker. You inspire me as well. Blessings to you.

[firstjohn313]

PART FOUR: As I as struggling through college, I once cried out to my "Black" church for a helping hand with food. I only asked for something small like a loaf of bread, some rice. They put me through the third degree... after all I'd given and provided for them all my life. It was the gay church called Metropolitan Church of the Rockies, that gave me food as well as gave food to all the homeless and needy. Black people are very ignorant and judgmental, hence their poverty.

[firstjohn313]

PART THREE: I've lost all respect for the "Black" community overall for this very reason. I love the Lord and He loves me too, obviously. It took me many, many years to cut away from ignorant, filthy Blacks, period. And as far as the commenter who said, "You cant minister to ppl leading a hypocritical life, living anti God," well, prime example of what I'm saying. Let him (or her) who is without sin cast the first stone, because none of us are truly righteous.

[firstjohn313]

PART TWO:

I'd spent all of my teenage years provided musical service for my "Black" church, and I've coordinated many, many fund-raising events for my "Black" church. But as I got older and wiser and more educated, I really I was only casting my pearls to dogs or swine.

[firstjohn313]

PART ONE: I am not surprised at all that "colleagues" would accept you. No surprise at all. HOWEVER, IN THE BLACK CHURCH you will be torn down by their disrespect, their criticism, their judgment. I respect you: I'm Black. But I'm also educated and I don't attend "Black" churches... their too ignorant. 

[mscelebrity14]

You cant minister to ppl leading a hypocritical life, living a life anti God... Ijs.. I love you brother.... you may have a word but I could not even receive you knowing the lifestyle you live

[ThePharaoho]

You are a very beautiful, courageous, and God fearing man. I am so glad you found the strength and to continue life and to love God regardless of other people's ignorance and hatred. You know, so many people take the Bible out of context. I'm from the south, my only wish is that I can befirend you. We need to stick together as a minority, to help each other heal and grow mentally, spiritually, and emotionally. You are a powerful brother. Hotep!

[SuperKenster1]

No, he is just gay period!

[detroitgayguy]

Mr. Baker, thank you very much for your words of wisdom and sharing your life experiences. As a black man, who is gay, you have inspired me with.

[PastorDonte1]

Mr. Baker you are such an inspiration for all of us! Thank you for your transparency. I uploaded a video in response to this to add encouragement to those who are needed encouragement! I love you!

[blkmun86]

@nopolysix the transexual had a sex change no my girlfriend do not

no but i am not gay the transexual had a sex change

but gay need aids the are faggots

[blkmun86]

i have a girlfriend that i love but i get oral sex from transexual but i am not

gay the transexual had a sex change but i did not tell my girlfriend but

i hate all faggots i hope the get aids

[nopolysix]

@blkmun86

Let me get this right. You have oral sex with a guy ( transexual) and you hope they all get AIDS, right?

So you don`t mind if you get AIDS yourself. Since you are having sex with gays!

I hope your girlfriend is aware of this !

[TheYardieboi]

Keep your head up B, and allow God to use you. He who is without sin cast the first stone. All man likes to do is Judge. I wish man would leave things to God and stop asuming they are God.

[wolvie041007]

disgusting niggers

[CalledOutBeliever]

BRAVO! visit calledoutbeliever

[CalledOutBeliever]

BRAVO!

[vangoghmatisse1]

I'm Transgender, I feel the LORD called me early and he never left me. You continue allowing the LORD to use you. Who are they to determine who GOD calls. Yes as a Transgender their is a certain way I should conduct myself in this world. I believe GOD renews are minds to become better at who we are. For me I change alot of behaviors that would have brought me down, it's hard but I'm getting better taking it one day at a time. I have faith that JESUS is my strong tower against adversity.

[SuperNewhorizon]

@vangoghmatisse1 Yes god did call you but not for this turn away from this life style and listen to the voice of god you dont hear him you hear satan know the difference between the two, You were called tell the gay community that this is not the way, But its gonna be ok because if you think you had it rough before you aint seen nothing yet , God is gonna show you some thing and your gonna try to ignore it because its gonna show you somthing different then what you preach, god be with you

[vangoghmatisse1]

@SuperNewhorizon People like you disturb me. You think you have all the answers to God but clearly you don't. God could wipe away the Gay community if He wanted, but you tell me why has He allowed us to live? He destroyed to extinction Sadom and Gamora, but allowed homosexuals to exist. Yes satan temps we all know this. Jesus rose on the third day with all power and satan is no match for my LORD!!!!!

[SuperNewhorizon]

@SuperNewhorizon Why do you think god destroyed sodom and gomorah in the first place BECAUSE IT WAS A SIN HELLO !! Im not trying to make you feel bad but this is what GOD SAID! There is no getting around it ,Its a SIN just like any other sin Im not gonna tell you what you wanna hear because i dont want anyones blood on my hands when i stand before god and says why didnt you tell my ppl the truth, And the world is coming to an end hun look around you all the signs are their OPEN YOUR EYES ,

[simonpure109]

I Corinthians 6:9.The passage In his first epistle to the church at Corinth, Paul lists many activities that he believes will prevent people from inheriting the Kingdom of God .Ref: Robertson's Word Studies refers to this passage as: "a solemn roll call of the damned even if some of their names are on the church roll in Corinth whether officers or ordinary members. AND I SIMONPURE KNOWS I WILL GO2HELL FOR MY (KNOWN) SINS THAT I COMMIT INCLUDUNG HOMO STUNTS.I DONT HATE DA PLAYER,I HATE THE GAME

[ayanasxm]

My question is are you a practising homosexual? And if so what does the word of GOD say about sex outside of marriage? How does your belief align with the word of GOD?

[kevseb66]

You are like John. A voice crying in the wilderness. But I hear you loud & clear. So many of us have been so injured by the church & need to be healed. I am one of them. My heart aches because sometimes i feel like me & God will never be what it should be. We desperately need your ministry so please don't get discouraged.

[ninjaheart]

Apart of my ministry is to minister to my brothers and sisters stuck and struggling with homosexuality. If you read Leviticus 18 in its entirety you soon will discover why GOD was instructing the Jews in sexual immorality. Everything in Leviticus 18 is wrong. Human beings do not have the authority to change what GOD has says. The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are one so therefor if GOD said it then so did Jesus. I do not hate anyone but I will stand up for the WORD OF GOD.

[001ctaylor]

Way to go Dustin.

[jeffdon4]

I would LOVE to date him/.I live in northern NJ TOO!!!!

[suvariboy]

Love you Dustin but I really despise those (many of whom have commented on this video) who think that they're better that you. The judge you in spite of the fact that the Bible says that they shouldn't. You're a beautiful person and I wish you all the best!

[Gaeilgeoir]

Dustin, you are one beautiful guy, outside & inside, and God Bless you, sir. :-) I'm glad you're still with us and making such positivity come out of those horrible experiences. <3

[ninjaheart]

Dude it sounds nice but sin is still sin. You have a reprobate mind and you need deliverance. I have been deep in sin in my life but it is worth giving up my sinful desires in order to pursue HIM!

[Kumtekmeon]

@ninjaheart How DARE YOU come here talking about sin is sin? Being gay is not a sin and there is no where in the bible that is said. You have chosen to take the interpretation the Catholic church passed down to you, BUT the bible is OPEN for interpretation. So then MIND YOUR BUSINESS! If you think being gay is a sin keep that in your church, but don't force it on others. It amazes me how you SO-CALLED Christians love to dictate what or who a person to be! You're not gay so DON'T speak for one!

[kevseb66]

@ninjaheart: I'm so glad God is bigger then small minded church folks like yourself.

[thatswhatisaidyeah]

Well, maybe it's time for black people to come OUT of the church, cause it's clear that satan has completely infiltrated it. You can't count on the church to self-cleanse, cause the members expect the officials to do the cleansing, and they are corrupt.....

[GQflash1]

Great glad too see you are doing something positive in your life by going to college. If you were called to altar at the age of twelve obviously that pastor saw the spirit of homosexuality on you because by your own admission you are gay.If it is your intention to become a pastor and preach love and acceptance of everyone thats wonderful.Just remember homosexual acts are sin just like adultery and murder however those who indulge in it think its a lifestyle with no need of repentance.

[TheSergeant100]

Did God Create Homosexuals? Can anyone answer this question more accurately than Jesus? Remember, "by Him were all things created, and without Him was not anythings made that was made." In John 1:10, it is written, "He was in the world, and the world was made by Him, and the world knew Him not." Jesus said, "Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female." Matt. 19:4. God made only two sexes!

[kevseb66]

@TheSergeant100 "Did God create homooosexuals"? The answer is yes He did. In the begining God created a helper for Adam being that there was no other creature around suitable for him. I don't understand why people then assume the creation account is a etched in stone mandate for the sexual orientation for all mankind. Adam & Eve were both created the same ethnicity. Are interracial couples sinful? Intersexed person are born w/ sex organs of both sexes. Are they evil also?

[kevseb66]

@TheSergeant100 Also people forget that Eve was taken out of Adam & then created. She was called "women" because she was taken out of the "womb" of man. The word "rib" used in most translations is poor rendering of the Hebrew. Careful study leads me to believe Adam was a intersexed person. What was taken from Adam was that which was female. Which make perfect sense since every human begins as a female in the womb.

[mysuperhotbody]

Too many people ex commucate gays from church. Notice the church dosen't save souls God dose. When god has a purpose for you he molds u for his glory .Not for other yes he uses you to get to others but when it comes down to it the lord and only him can make the judgement.

[Gaeilgeoir]

@mysuperhotbody absolutely right.

[Geezyone]

Everybody always calling black folks "homophobic" but it's not black folks committing all these anti gay hate crimes. Stop stereotyping and disrespecting black folks. Stand up for black folks black gay people, stop going on tv and gay sites throwing your people under the bus to curry favor.

[amor1vincit7omnia]

Thanks Dustin for your bravery! I know your journey will be a blessed one.

Now, it boggles me how hateful & condemning messages always find their way to videos such as this. It would seem to me that a person with such staunch opposition to this reality would not have found this (and videos like this one) in the first place! Because quite frankly, this does not randomly show on your home pages so it's obvious you searched it. If you are conflicted, please handle that on your own watch.

[Gaeilgeoir]

@amor1vincit7omnia Amen! lol

[myGodis1lord]

There is a difference in being a homosexual who practices unnatural acts and one who is oriented that way and abstains from those acts and asks God to change him or her.... However make no bones about it being homosexual is an abomination. God never makes it ok for men and women to commit homosexual unnatural acts one to another

[chuckyoo]

Sin is sin period. If you claim to read the bible then you should know the difference. That being said, I don't agree with all these hypocrites that single out gay people and yet are the worst offenders of God. Listen, just as God was able to change Paul who was a murderer of saints, God can also spiritually transform you to become straight again. Gay people are now attacked because they fight for mandatory acceptance by the society which is pushing it.

[chuckyoo]

Also remember that God loves us but hates the sins in our lives. If anyone claims to accept Jesus as their Lord and savior and yet willfully sins continually is a lie and is only deceiving themselves. Please repent from that lifestyle and ask God to truly change you to what He calls you to be. I do believe that if you love people then you need to be honest with them. How you talk to people will determine how the conversation will go. Don't deceive yourself and repent!.

[richdad360]

I don't believe in lying. What was the point of telling these ppl that u r gay? Paul had a thorn. What do think would happen if ppl knew what his thorn was? Do you believe that being gay is a sin?

[msscott73]

Thank you for posting this message. God bless you on your journey.

[MrIcetreyman]

The Black Church is a very homophobic institution, however there are probably move gay men in the Black Church than there are straight men. They are a bunch of sanctimonious hypocrites.

[MrBillH60]

Can u look @ urself in the mirrior n say this is what Jesus preached? Can u show where Jesus says it's ok to be gay? Do you know what a false prophet is? Do u know that Jesus said that many false prophets will araise in these last days. Do u know that hell is 4 real? Do u know this is danger close 2 blaspheme the Holy Spirit?

[blackreign2012]

@MrBillH60

No you cant but Black churches will find a way to justify it as long as Whitey/Massa pays for something. What a joke this is when you consider our family situation and the lack of a moral response from our churches. Blacks need to abandon the church. This is what all the black women in church are excited about.

[MrBillH60]

@blackreign2012 No, black men who really love Jesus needs 2 make a stand 4 rightiousnes. We need 2 say 2 the ladies, "I'll take it from here". These gay Christians r working with the spirit of the false prophet n 2 abandon the chruch would be suicide not just 2 the family but the nation.

[blackreign2012]

@MrBillH60

Look at the logo for his organization and see how its the same as the EU? any coincidence?, i think not. The black church is toast and is gone and all you have to do is look at any black neighborhood and see yourself. Real Black men need to adopt African Spirituality and abandon the church and the Black SLAVES who are there because they will be wiped out soon. We have wasted to much time trying to convince slaves not to pick cotton and need to go fwd with those who know better.

[MrBillH60]

@blackreign2012 What n the world r u talking about? The black church will die, but that will of the coming of Jesus Christ. Then there won't be a need for any church then. Real black men loves Jesus, these men will make a stand before u know it. Righteousness will make a last stand before it's all over.

[blackreign2012]

This is exactly what a bunch of black folks need. More gay black men at a time of family collapase. What a joke and just further proof of why Blacks are immoral and a joke to the church. Leading cause of death is murder, out of wedlock births and all the other moral ills

[MrBillH60]

@blackreign2012 Immoral n a joke? We have the abortionist people targeting r families n now this. Real Black men unite, stand up 4 our families. Fight 4 what's ours.

[ninjaheart]

The point of coming to Christ is not to live in your sin but to be changed into a new creature.

[holyspritman09]

i have a problem with gay people because it is not natural. GOD did not design you this way but satan did. you cannot be used by GOD being Gay unless you have been dilivered. GAY

[pkmnbrawler]

@holyspritman09 How is it not natural? Changing gay people straight would be like someone turning you gay. YOu couldn't do it

[mbenz901]

Dustin, This is an outstanding message that you had posted on this site. Homophobic is a dangerous thing among christianity believers who don't understand diversity which is apart of God's creation. When people don't embrace diversity then they will become dogmatic, judgemental sending God's people to hell! This act is a crime and needs to be address by leaders in churches and the government throughout this country. Keep up the good work and continue to tell the truth!

[HouseOfRainbow]

Dear Dustin, I am very impressed and thanks for the testimony, there are similarities with our journey as gay people of faith. I am Rev Rowland Jide Macaulay from Nigeria and started the House Of Rainbow MCC, first church welcoming to gay people in 2006 in Lagos Nigeria, we continue to experience hatred from our govt, religious communities and society. It is my hope and prayer that we will rise above these problems and religious homophobia. God bless you and thanks again for your word of hope.

[AndrogynyQueen]

Thank you for posting. I can identify with a lot with what he was saying and i appreciate his story

[SoldoutGodchaser]

Thank you so much for posting this. God bless you in your journey. May you help many many people.

[porghog]

Its so nice...

[gitondo]

Strong message...I LOVE IT...

[sadguyfoundout1]

just accept urself as gay to b happy in life. whether u believe in God or not!