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  • personally i only buy silver if it say's ''1 troy oz. '' ''and .999 fine silver '' ...i like the rounds ...

  • Silver does have a future but it would be unwise to spend on silver than gold.

  • I'm not paranoid about money. I have enough.

  • @SirPwn4lot what a stupid comments

  • It's your life, VisionVictory. The decision is the wisest choice man can make in his life.

  • If you are looking for a group of people to chat about Silver , download Palringo from your sellphone and join the room : silverchat

  • So vision victory... what is the point in investing in silver and gold? I have my own reasons but i'd like to hear more opinions.

  • @AnEyeOfTheOpenMind Reasons to buy silver:

    /user/JesusDillinger?feature=m­hum

  • silver will be a much better investment for the future from what i've found on my investigations..

  • @SovereignBeing even more so than gold?

  • @hbrtmran yes, cheaper therefore more accessible and better for trading..

  • I prefer 1920's 'Peace Type' silver dollars.

    Kill as many birds as possible: Silver value, dates(authenticity), numismatic value, pre-FDR, and relatively cheap compared to other silver dollars.

  • WHAT DOES IT MEAN .....44.99$ OVER MELT. OVER SPOT AND UNDER SPOT.

  • @shan00r the company that sells u the physical silver has to make a profit so if silver costs 30$ an ounce they might sell it to u for 31.50 that 1.50 is called spot it is there profit.

  • @GONECRUISING72

    Thanx.......... I was totally new to this Market

  • @shan00r believe me so am i.. but i just bought another 4 ounces today, try local shops to avoid shiping and handling... but, buy buy buy....i have bought 32 ounces in the last 4 days check out apmex.com.... buy buy buy ;-)

  • Like the vid, however I beleive that some specific rare coins are an excellent way to store wealth. I also think if you need to "store wealth" there is none better than double eagles or large denominated treasury gold coinage whether it be us, canada, france, ie. I think smaller size of coin is more conveinient for barter, but not for wealth storage. Junk bag silver is best for barter.

  • Just found a very interesting educational article on silver, check it out (also has a promo code to save money on silver :) futuremoneytrends. com/Silver_Trend. html

  • nothing but .9999 silver.. you can make the golden drink from silver with 4 nine silver.

    secret in .9999 gold comes out when you hit the mineral with 100,000 volts or more.

    it turns into mono atomic white gold powder. its what the slaves baked into the cake and fed the god way back when. it heals the DNA.

  • @videocruzer what??!!

  • if you need silver let me know, i'll give you the info. its a very good investment

  • @lobsterbale i need siver, letting you know.

  • @TwelveChariots cmimasters(dot)com is a good source i and people i know use. the big man will always win so why not more people get a piece of it. check it out its your choice, thanks.

  • I have to disagree with the collector's aspect of precious metals. I invest in bullion and numismatic coins. So for silver I try to keep it purely bullion, but I have some gold pieces which are rarer. And if gold goes up, it helps that the coin is rare as well. Double whamey! What do you guys think?

  • Wow, funny to see generic rounds going for 1.49 over spot.

    Premiums were ridiculous for a while there, you can get the same rounds for like .79 over spot now.

  • Why does the 2003 kookaburra cost so much more than other years?

  • How do you feel about Mint State gold coins after you have your main investment in bullion?

  • people who are thinking about buying large amounts of bullion should really think about that their doing are you going to buy bread with two ounces of gold?

    You will probably just have to get two items if you buy silver dimes everyone can tell it is sliver becuase of the printed date.

    Praying for you all becuase the best investment is Jesus.

  • Cool video. Interesting. I wish all the silver bloggers would put up a video explaining exactly where they bought and why.

  • Why do people, such as in this video, share information about investments? What is his profit motive to make these videos?

  • @Entropy56

    I don't believe he has a profit motive. VV has been a patriot in that he informs people of the scams, and corruption throughout the Government. Don't drink the Obama-recovery BS until you get educated.....I recommend VV, Don Harrold, stellaconcepts. watch some of their vids and you'll see

  • @Entropy56

    There is no profit, it's just to inform others.

  • The third Reich produced millions of coins from stealing precious metals from the millions of people they enslaved and murdered. I believe this is the reason why there is so little trade of these coins on ebay because they are cursed and no decent person wants anything to do with the history behind them.

  • The Third Reich produced millions of 90% silver bullion coins. Each Nazi 5 Reichsmark coin weighed 13.5 g and contained exactly 12.5 g of fine silver. Almost half an ounze of silver in each coin. These coins are still readily available today!

  • sorry, my bad. Each Nazi 5 Reichsmark coin weighed 13.88 g and contained exactly 12.5 g of fine silver.

  • Does it matter what years for silver rounds? They got differest prices. Over spot price for Canadian mapple round at Apmx is about $2.99. Is it too expensive?

  • @ purepaloma Well for 1 thing Scottsdale only ships to the USA,secondly when it comes to my silver I like purity and the Canadian Maple leaf coin offer a higher resale value dollar for dollar,check it out for yourself on any site that buys back bars and coins AND not to mention that they're actually cheaper than ASE!! BONUS!

    It's NO wonder why self-made billionaire Jim Rogers often has Canadian coins,it's because of the purity of their Gold & Silver! Kitco delivers to both USA,CDN and abroad

  • @connectingdots1 Scottsdale Silver ships to Canada now. As well as other countries. 

  • excellent. also bullion direct. kitco.

  • Don't mean to rip you man, but you mean you prefer *coins from a *treasury as opposed to *rounds from a *mint. I feel like if you are buying for the silver content why not buy a "round" as opposed to a coin? I mean aren't we trying to get away from government issued money anyway when we buy silver?

  • @jacobstanley1979 It doesn't matter what the silver is made of, just as long as it's silver. I think thats the point.

  • @jacobstanley1979 I think the main reason to buy coins issued by Gov'ts is because they are much easily accepted, verses silver rounds from elsewhere. I have bought silver rounds online that turned out to be fake. I've yet to get a fake Silver Eagle.

  • @jacobstanley1979 Not necessarily. In the UK, government issued silver coins such as the Silver Britannia and the Gold Sovereign are classed as legal tender so you can avoid capital gains tax which currently stands at 28%! I'm trading my rounds in for these.

  • @itsonelouder1 interesting - where are you getting them from - i mean do you trust buying them on ebay etc?

  • @SovereignBeing I'm buying gold sovereigns/britannias and silver britannias from Baird and Co. But you can probably buy them direct from the royal mint.

  • @SovereignBeing if you find out that what I'm saying isn't true, please let me know. thanks

  • @itsonelouder1 What is on offer at that site is certainly comprehensive..

    i'm in australia and i haven't seen old Sovs etc for sale at the perth mint..

    its all new stuff.

  • @SovereignBeing Do you have any coins in Aus free of CGT?

  • @itsonelouder1 thats what im trying to find out..! if you buy the standard mint coins and then you sell and double your money , is it taxed. i guess not unless you declare it.. huh?

  • @SovereignBeing I would do some googling for "capital gains tax" and "gold". Bullion dealers should be able to help you too and you should find info on their websites, if not email them. I would be interested to know if other countries have a similar thing going on. What about the US, anyone?

  • @SovereignBeing Incidentally, in the UK your first £10,600 of capital gains annually isn't taxed. You may have a similar allowance in Aus, and depending on how much you're investing, you may not need to worry about CGT.

  • @jacobstanley1979 Government issued "money" in the form of Silver and/or Gold "IS" what you want. Its easily noticed and reccognized when you are selling. Compare that to a random mint you never heard of. Which would you buy? Thx, Lawrence @

  • Can someone tell me what "Spot Price" means, and "Over Spot ?"

    Must have something to do with current price - but that`s just a guess. Tell me - please !

  • Spot price is the current market price. If you look on any financial news channel or website and they list the the gold/silver price... that is the spot price.

    Over spot is the price "mark-up" a company is charging you when you buy from them. Right now the mark-up is significantly higher than when this video was made because the demand is much higher... the seller is taking advantage of the demand and raise the prices. It is a business after all.

  • Hello, JP5466. You could have been an Englishman ! Very well explained, clear and to the point. Many thanks.

  • Scottsdale Silver is always more expensive everytime I checked,Kitco is best for Maple Leafs and American Eagles,APMEX is cheapest for plastic wrapped silver 1oz.bars and cheap APMEX rounds but the CHEAPEST of all was @Qualitysilverbullion at just >61 cents over spot!!!

    TOO bad they don't deliver to Canada but they have free delivery across the USA.

  • @connectingdots1 Scottsdale Silver doesn't surcharge for credit cards, and with the free shipping they have great pricing. Other places have bait and switch and hit you hard at the end of the checkout with shipping fees, etc. Plus, the Scottsdale Hallmark bullion has the highest resale premium on ebay compared with others.

  • @connectingdots1 QSB is indeed cheap, but, for example, if you buy two 10-oz. bars and five rounds from providentmetals, you'll pay less than if you bought twenty-five 1-oz. rounds from QSB.

    This probably only matters to folks like me who can only buy a few hundred dollars worth at a time and are looking to get *just one more oz.* : )

  • @JesusDillinger That works for all dealers of bullion. the smaller the increment the cheaper you pay, I've read what everyone one typed and i must say, either you all work for these bullion mints or you have just failed to research for cheapest place for silver, heaven knows I must have spent at least three weeks looking for the cheapest and QSB was always the cheapest due to it's DUTCH AUCTION !

    I wish he'd change his delivery 'cause I'd love to only pay $0.61 over spot for new DIVISIBLE rounds

  • @connectingdots1 That doesn't work for all dealers of bullion because, for example, QSB doesn't sell 20-oz. bars.

    An even cheaper way to get 25 Ounces, cheaper than Provident or QSB, would be to buy a 25-oz. bar from monarchpreciousmetals. $744.00. Niether Provident nor QSB sells 25-oz. bars.

    I am not in the silver business. I am a buyer of bullion who wants to exchange info with others.

    Yeah, I too like the divisible rounds. I plan to get some.

  • @JesusDillinger Well if you're a bullion buyer why in the heck would you be looking to buy a 25 oz bar in the first place?

    I guess you must be new to the silver scene cause many of us have tackled this issue all we all agree that buying in very small increments as close to spot is the BEST thing ANYONE buying Bullion could EVER do considering Silver is about to EXPLODE in 2011

    The LAST thing you would want is to be stuck with a 25 oz, round/bar once prices ZOOM to $600/oz

    unless U dont see that

  • I don't see at all. I want to have as much Ag as possible when it goes up. So I buy the cheapest I can get so as to get more. That means I want to buy larger hunks of the stuff because Ag, like everything else, is cheaper in larger volumes.

    One 25oz. bar from monarch costs $748; two10oz. bars and five 1oz. rounds from provident costs $756; twenty-five 1oz. rounds from QSB cost $765.

    Thus, the best deal on silver bullion is the 25-oz. bar.

    Please correct me unless you are merely screwing with me.

  • I love the bars from Scottsdale Silver. They take credit cards too.

  • CHEAP SILVER!

  • I can get APMEX 1 oz silver rounds for around a dollar cheaper per coin than the silver eagles.. if I am just purchasing for the investment, would they be the thing to buy or are eagles worth more on resale?

  • rule of 72 says you will double your money in 3 years if you pay off your credit cards that are at 24% Gold will not do that fat chance gold will be $2,200 New Years 2013 but if it is or it is not your credit cards will be paid. Hey why not buy gold on your credit card?? hummm would you do that??? Buy metals on credit I mean?? If yes ~ you are doomed if No then why not??? If you have debt and dont pay it off but buy gold it is the same as buying it on credit prove me wrong waiting
  • Of course, I don't owe on credit cards, or own any. So maybe thats different....

  • I try a buy a few different kinds of silver products. Some small troy oz (1-10oz)products Rounds of any kind are good cause you get more for your money. When this economy goes down you want to have smaller configurations of this stuff. If youre also into "collecting," get different years of the Maple Leafs or American Eagles...

  • thats a sure thing boy oh boy get different dates when you sell the damn maple leafs that is the first thing they do is look at the dates eeeeeeeeeeyessir BTW isn`t gold down about $130 this month Man that was a good Christmas present huh? what do you think will happen next month. what do your crystal balls say. is fortune going to smile on you hopefully the country will fall apart by then & U & your sorry ass will have enough silver to make it through 2 months. ROTFLMAO & KMF
  • Shut up. Youre just dumb. And you just proved it. BTW: You dont know what I have. And people like you poo poo everyone, but what are you doing to prepare? Nothing.

    So if im going to last two months (as you say) you would last 2 hours...

  • So if your cards are paid off you can save that wasted interest.

    If you House is paid off they can not take it from you

    Silver is down over the last 30 years from $21 to $17

    Gold is down $120 over the past 30 days

    Think of it this way YOU COULD HAVE BOUGHT 7 ounces of sliver today with the money you lost on gold in the past 3 weeks

    RO....etc

  • Hmmm....I would reply, but I dont talk to sheeple...good luck. Youre gonna need it.

  • videolover

    it is hard to replay when you have nothing to say of importance or that actually strengthens your case. both gold and silver are down

    Tomorrow any rentals you have will owe a months rent. Yummy. I love rent. I can buy gold with my rent and save it up to buy a new building

    you get no dividends off your gold and so can buy no more gold. in fact when you buy gold you lose 6% just for the buy fee. then when you sell you lose 6% for the sell fee. in the end you only have 88% left.

  • Today the USA population has a total Credit Card debt of 998 Billion that is about $3,000 for every man woman and child in the USA. If you figure 3 to a family then it is an average family debt of $9,000

    Pay that off and save 22% (tax free) per year. Skip the F ing gold.

  • Hey man you dont get it...SO you dont get it!! Go somewhere else and debate...whatever...

    Im sure about ALL im doing for my future, its not just about any one or two things...its about the totality...debate VisionVictory...cause he's got all the stats that YOU need to hear. Enough said!

  • Mrs Victory's little boy Vision

    started to debate me one time on one video and then he had no answers or insight and quit.

    GOLD IS NOT AN INVESTMENT

    at best sometimes it is a storehouse for value

    but it is a leaky storehouse, It leaks value as Gold loses against inflation over the long haul

    It leaks value upon purchase and sale via commissions

    It leaks value as more and more is produced

    It never nerver ever produces a dividend of any kind.

    Pay off your credit cards

  • AGAIN!!! It's not one thing, it's the totality!!! Sale the house, get rid of the car (if you can), pay off the credit cards, SAVE, and buy gold and silver...you will see...

  • Funny...I have made A LOT of money in gold in the last few months.

  • to have made money on GOLD in December 2009 you must have been shorting the market

    as gold lost over 12% during Dec.

    Maybe you made so much money in Nov. that you still had some left after New Years.

    I am very happy you made money . You are one of the few. If you made money then 50% of the people you bought from or sold to had to lose money.

    And you are one of the very few not to owe money on your credit cards.

    nice going in that department.

    hope your good luck holds up.

  • @anyname666 I agree get rid of debt then go to precious metals and food/water storage.

  • When you get the rent money, what are you going to do with it? Keep it in cash?

    It's good that you have people paying you rent, but what happens when renters can't pay anymore?

  • What do u do if a big monster comes down . . . .?

    If the renters dont pay they are evicted in 28 days

    Evictions happen

    Vacancys happen

    Over all your principal keeps up with inflation & u get dividends

    They give me checks or cash

    In any case I use the paper money like anyone else would

    I buy groceries, pay down debt etc

    I do not keep federal notes in a box. They are devalued daily. Best to get rid of them & convert them into something that produces income & does not stagnate

    like gold

  • I don't know any place you can evict people in 28 days, but my point was also that i don't know what that "something" is that you can spend cash on that produces income.

  • Silveracity evictions in Texas are14 days if u skip the lawyers & go `pro per` in California u can have it over & done with in 28 days (a judgment I mean- then the sheriff) The best thing to do for folks who are in the lower 50% of income earners ($33K) is: Don`t eat out Skip vacations for 2 years Always use coupons Only buy groceries that are on sale Pay off credit cards Take the money saved from this & use for down payment on house in a few years If U already have a house~pay it off
  • Wow, never knew about evicting people in 14 days, but that is Texas.

    I would agree with you on just about everything except, IF we are entering a time of higher inflation, is paying off your fixed mortgage right now really a good idea?

  • Liberty

    Still waiting for all the smart guy come backs about inflation and Silver vs real time inflation and the past 35 years.

    Crisis or no crisis Silver has lost against inflation

    Even at $4.50 in 1974 and $17 today it has lost against inflation

    Rental property on the other hand has kept up with inflation and is probably a good indicator of inflation. As it is one of the things that inflation is all about.

    In 1972 I bought a Tuxedo for $120! It costs that much now just to rent one

  • Silver ave`d about $4.50 an ounce in 1974

    in 2001 and 2 it was about $4.30-$4.60

    If you bought in 1974 and held until 2002 how much did you lose against inflation smart guy

    so what if it is up in the past 3 years against 35 years ago. it is still down as a hedge against inflation

    you have lost lost lost while holding silver.

    YOU ARE THEY GUY WHO DOES NOT GET IT.

  • how did Silver do against inflation over the past 30 years???????

  • Liberty

    DO they charge a commission to buy metals or not??

    DO they charge a commission to sell metals or not??

    Yes or no dude???????????????

  • Liberty

    Was the price of silver in 1979 on average $21 per ounce??

    Is the price of silver today 2009 30 years later only $17 ???

    Is the price of silver down $3 over 30 years ????

    Yes or no dude?????????

  • 1 of 2

    Damn buddy get with the program

    You must be a salesman

    The average price for Silver in 1979 was $21 per oz (look it up)

    Today as I type this it is only $17 (down $3 or 14% since 1979)

    Now adjust that for inflation

    All the voters who invested in silver in 1979 and bought bars, coins, and Lincoln Mint collectables have lost their ass. Over on E bay you see all those collectables that Grandma was talked into buying in the 70s and 80s being sold by her grand kids at a horrible loss

  • don't just research that silver price....try researching why silver was at $21 per ounce.....in the late seventies into the early eighties was one of the worst economic times in history....you have a freaking worldwide oil crisis, the cold war with the USSR, the fear of nuclear war, along with wages not meeting the living cost.....try doing all the research instead just picking a number out to make a silly point without looking at the contributing factors

  • Part 2......silver was like $10 an ounce about 2 years ago....now it's around $18....what could have caused this....a worldwide economic crisis maybe?????

  • 2 of 2

    How much was the house you own today valued at in 1979 (peak of the market for RE that decade) And how much is the house you own valued at today.

    Convert the values of that house in 1979 into ounces of silver and compute what they are worth today in this down market.. That is how much you have lost against inflation over 30 years if you had bought silver and not the house. Further if you had rented the house you would have collected 360 months in rent.

    This is not brain surgery.

  • DONT BUY SILVER OR GOLD

    . `you cant stop liveing your life or THEY have already won????`

    So who are THEY- this guy talks like an amature

    2 dollars over spot - if spot is 13 then and you pay $2 over that then you had to pay about 15% in commissions... You have to wait until silver gets to $15 just to break even assuming there is no commission on the sale (if you bought less than $1,000 worth you have to pay sales tax.

    This is a very very very expensive way to try and SAVE.

    good luck

  • you don't get it anyname...the price of the sliver is the spot price.....it costs money to produce coins and bars from that silver....if you are paying 2 dollars more than spot so does everyone else if you need to sell it....but...its not about selling in the short term to make a quick buck...its about preserving your wealth for the future...silver and gold can be transferred into ANY currency and it doesn't get devalued by inflation...fiat currencies cant say the same.

  • So Give Me Liberty or give me debt

    R you trying to tell me that the guys who sell this metal do not make a commission?

    U R not really trying to say that r u?

    Ok I am just stupid what did you say again

    `it is not about the short term but the long term to preserve your wealth `

    Like how much was it worth in 1979?Figure that out for inflation.

    Currency always gets devalued by inflation where is the NEWS in that statement???

    Laborer demands for higher wages the reason for inflation in the end

  • you OBVIOUSLY don't get it....silver and gold are ALWAYS worth the same amount in terms of PURCHASING POWER....if the currency is strong and provides hefty purchasing power then the price of silver and gold will decline to mirror that.....when currency is weak and devalued the price of silver and gold increase to mirror that...no matter what the fiats do, the VALUE of silver and gold remain the same...inflation doesn't touch it...thats the point...preserve wealth...get it now?

  • PART 2.......and if you want to look at silver as an investment vehicle it will work in that aspect as well over the long term......silver is a finite element(meaning there's only so much of it)....it is the best conductor of electricity and the basis behind many of the "green" technologies that are to come by law in the near future.not to mention it is used in every single computer made....and it is never recycled from these devices currently which means it will only become more scarce

  • Liberty

    How much did you pay for rent in 1979 ?

    How much do you pay now for the same place?

    Is the price of rent up or down in the past 30 years ?

    We know the price of silver is down in 30 years

    OK now this is where I may lose you. If the price of rent is up and the price of sliver is down than did the price of silver gain or lose against the inflationary trend of rent

    What about can goods, dry goods, the cost of a dress suit

    Common big guy tell me all about inflation and Silver

    waiting

  • APMEX silver is produced by the US Mint Sunshine Minting CO....

    DeathOfTheDollar2010(.)Blogspo­t(.)com

  • DO NOT BUY SILVER / GOLD.

    when the" Royal mint "is advertising its coins on TV you know its time to SELL. This is 2004-6 in the property bubble. The pros have all bought very cheap and are looking to sell while the rest of us poor schmucks are panic buying incase we miss out. Seen it all before. Its just another scam. This is the year that Joe Kennedy talked to the shoeshine boy.

  • do you know the gov is trying to keep gold prices down right now? the USD dropping 5% a week? we will buy gold, and you buy a new cell phone.

  • My favorite is the 10 oz Scottsdale Stacker Silver Bars

  • Agree recieved my first 10oz Scottsdale Stacker today beautiful bar

  • Look at the price of silver on this screen and look at it now! YIKES! Less than a year as well.

  • Thank you very usefull

  • Collecting silver was fun until I started running out of SECURE space to stash it in. I sold alot of my silver and purchased gold

  • does it matter if it's from a mint? I mean, when silver goes through the roof, would it really matter?

  • In a way if you want quality it would actually matter.

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  • hah, i just realized this was the video of which i was referring to in my reply to you. Anyway, as long as it's .999 fine silver is all i care about.

  • I prefer government-minted coins because they're recognizable; the purity & amount of their metal content isn't likely to be questioned if you must use them for trade. I also think rare, collector-style coins have a place if you've built a supply of ordinary bullion coins first, and can afford them; if the economy doesn't collapse, well-chosen collector coins do have a history of rising in value over time. (Be choosy though who you buy them from; the industry does contain its scam artists.)

  • You say "If we stop living our lives, they have already won"

    I someone out to get you? How long have you been thinking people are out to get you? :)

    Just kidding.

    How to keep your bullion? In a floor safe. Buy one that is fireproof, waterproof. Cut a hole in a floor that is concrete based. Install the safe. pour concrete. Cover with rug. They can't steal what they can't find.

    Don't brag you buy silver/gold. People talk. People become drunks, coke heads, crack/crank heads.

  • I just can't figure out the floor safe thing. I am not qualified to crash through my home's foundation and I don't want to hire a contractor (as one floor safe advocate suggested - unbelievably). I agree it's the best solution but I can't afford to do on the job concrete practice on my foundation!

    Good points on Discretion! I take care of mom and she has a home health person come in every two weeks and we have small home. Real problem for big gun safe - it will be seen by strangers.

  • I looked at gun safes and for many reasons they are not really that secure.

    Its really not hard to put in a floor safe, rent a concrete saw, cut four lines and pull up a square. Dig a hole, pour concrete, insert safe, level, add rebar, pour more concrete. Take your time, plan everything out using drawings and notes. Do a run through before you get everything, to make sure you have everything you need.

    But I wouldn't want you to start something your not comfortable with.

  • BTW, instructions are available on the web for many floor safes for installation.

    The next thing to do is buy a good safe, bolt to a concrete floor and just pile up 'junk' boxes around it to hide it.

    Don't get a wall safe. They are not safe, too easy to pull out and take home to open at leisure. Fire safes can often be opened with a sharp axe, but I use one for wills, insurance, tax records, etc.

  • Other than the fact that gun safes can be seen by whoever (maintenance guy, plumber, "friend", etc.) comes into your house (no basement possible where I live), what are the "many reasons" you found not to go with a gun safe? I was looking at a really high quality one, bolted to the foundation, about 1200 lbs, 7 ga. steel, and, unfortunately, rather expensive. I don't mind the expense if it is a good investment. I have guns to put into it as well. It will be topped off with a Brinks system.

  • 1) As you say, hard to hide.

    2) All that I have seen have a hidden emergency key entry, bypassing all combination locks. This is a really poor security 'feature'. Almost all locks can be picked, and many have a limited number of keys.

    3) None of the gun safes I have seen come close to the security of a burgle 'proof' safe.

    I don't know how thick 7 ga is, but a decent safe might be 1 to 2.5 inches thick of steel. The bigger the safe, the thinner a same weight safe will be.

  • Of course, if you have long guns, then to keep at a reasonable price you might well have to go with gun safe. I'm curious, what manufacturer are you thinking of?

    You can try checking safe stores if you have any very large safes, or online for used safes, they can be freighted, but are hard to get in, esp down stairs, etc. Check this out with the supplier.

  • Liberty Safes (Lincoln or Presidential model)

  • In the end, its a matter of if they can cart it away or how long it takes to get in before the police show (15-20 min here). Angle grinders or a plasma cutter can make quick work of many gun safes.

    If someone knows you have something worth taking, they can figure out a way to take it quickly.

    They cut my brothers phone line, pulled a security door off with a tow truck, bypassed alarms, $12k gone.

    In the end you have to balance the cost of securing against the cost of the secured.

  • Of course, if you have long guns, then to keep at a reasonable price you might well have to go with gun safe.

    I've seen large safes capable of storing long guns used, more secure than gun safes, but $2.5K

    and the same in pounds. Walls and door were 1.5" thick. Extremely hard to get in house.

    If you have room, put gun safe it in a closet, or build a small closet to cover it in the basement, etc.

    Sorry for all the messages. Youtube character limit... argggg.

  • Not room enough for a decent safe in the small closets in this 40 year-old home. Gotta be in the open. in a corner, in a back bedroom that no one accesses. But if anyone ever did break in, it would be in plain view.

  • 7 gauge steel = 0.1875" = 4.76mm. Like I said, easy work for a portable plasma cutter, more for angle grinders.

    It will be good against kids or teenagers, not a 'pro'.

    Likely, you'll be fine with it.

    You could buy/build a changing wall. old fashioned portable partition, Made with paper panels, either with designs or opaque white. Three panels on hinges would hide it. A couple of plants in front, maybe a small knickknack table. Just to keep it out of eye sight of casual visitors.

    Good luck!

  • Never put into safety deposit box, if u don't collect it after 3 years, government confiscate it!

  • Does anyone know anything about CMI in Phoenix, as far as how much over spot they charge for both gold and silver? I bought gold from them and I just can't remember what I paid now, although I bought at $925 and I believe it was $50/ounce fee over that.

    I'm looking to buy silver now and I don't want to go back there if I got ripped off.

  • I can't tell you about price, but I like their policy of not maintaining files on customers. They did this when a detective came into their shop one day and saw the files with all the address info. He told CMI if a burglar got in and got the files, it would be a burglary nightmare for police because crook would have a stash of addresses to hit for yrs! I doubt CMI can be quite as cheap as CNI, Tulving because they don't seem as big. CMI also avoids numismatics.Nice people I spoke to on phone.

  • The reason I went with CMI is that they're local to me. I was very happy with the service as well. It was my first purchase and I was a little nervous about sending such a huge check, but it was a very smooth transaction.

  • ????Once I've started buying how should I store it? Mattress, safety deposit, hole in the yard.

  • shoebox ;)

  • yes,yes and yes, also put the silver into FUNCTIONING items.

  • purchase your own fire-proof safe and keep it at home. (safety deposit boxes are vulnerable to confiscation)

  • One ebay if you have time to shift through the crap you can find some jems. I have picked up some at 50cents or so over spot

  • Thank God I saw this before I started really buying. I would have gotten ripped off by ebay.

  • i got lots of 1 kg bars of silver. that's sux

  • i was thinking about buying some silver from pan american . do you think that is a wise thing to do? and if not, do you recommend any generic silver?

  • i had fast shipping with NWT mint in the US..will do again

  • I didn't see the 10oz. Sunshine bricks, only the 5oz. Guess they sold out.

  • What does Over Spot mean?

  • You asked this a while ago, but I don't see any reply. "Over Spot" is the premium amount you pay PER OZ over the spot price, i.e. the basic market price for metal. For example, if you buy a 1 oz Silver American Eagle, you might pay $US 1.69 over spot, while a 10 oz Kookaburra might be $16.90 more than metal, with the same premium. You may also see "over melt," which is the NET amount you pay over the basic metal value of a coin. Hope that helps! =^[.]^=

  • like if the prize on kitco is 17,70 that is the spot, then 2dollar over spot is 19,70 :-)

  • Buy American Bullion.  Johnson Matthey, Engelhard, Heraeus are all foreign owned. ----- Scottsdale Silver is minted in USA

  • lol stocks perform better? Gold was $250/oz in 2000 and went over 1000 recently and is still isnt far away. Tell me what stock went 400% value and withstood the stock market crash.

  • You don't know what your talking about. Silver Canadian Maples are 9999 pure, they are some of the purest silver coins in the world & are certainly not lead filled ! Secondly owning 100 ozs bars ,won't let you sell a few ounces of silver if you need to. Your better off to buy 5 oz, 10 0z bars & rounds as well as 1 ounce silver rounds & bars.

  • I agree on the whole concept of collecting silver as an investment. But I disagree on "not buying on ebay". I have beat what apmex would charge when buying small amounts like 10 -1 oz .999 buying on ebay. Many people have free shipping. If you are patient and time stuff right I have bought 10 1oz silvretowne for 146.00 with no shipping. Apmex eqivalent after shipping cost is 152.00.  Regardless buy buy buy grab all you can for whats lurking around the corner!!!!

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  • Your an idiot if you buy on ebay. They drill and fill the bars with lead and re sell them. Buy from a reputable internet dealer or bullion dealer. Ebay is a disaster. Have fun with your lead silver and lead filled gold bars.

  • prices have changed a bit since this vid. Now you can get 79 cents over spot on 10oz bars or 1oz APMEX rounds, the eagles and leaf coins are 1.99 over spot now.

    I agree with dont go with anything over 10oz

  • try to stay away from ebay, too many paypal and listing fees knocking up the price. Its somewhat nice with Bing cashback, but barely.

  • I just wanted ot say thanks for this and for the promo code you gave. I just purchased some silver. I had ben seeing so much about purchasing metals lately and heard silver was indeed something to look at, plus it is in my price range. :-)

  • the one with the dog is the "PERTH MINT"

    AUSTRALIA GOVT mint

  • $1.49 over spot isn't bad? It's 10% BUY junk pre 1964 halves, quarters, and dimes. Lowest cost and easiest to trade in for a gallon of gas, groceries, etc without a hacksaw. ALSO, buy them from a trusted local dealer!

  • Anybody knows any site to buy gold and silver in europe??

  • Ebay

  • ebay

  • Have you seen the bars at Scottsdale Silver ?

  • dam i want one of each so shiney =o

  • I just started collecting gold and silver. I have been trying to find the best way to store the silver. It seems the plastic case wouldn't keep them ait tight. What about using oxygen abosorbers. Any thoughts?

  • And just like in the bible, god or nature may end up destroying the bloodlines of the demonic elites who are destroying the planet for money.  Maybe a disease that kills just those inbred blood lines,somethings got to stop this greed naturally. It's karma. And they're already building another Babylon. That city got destroyed by fire.

  • LOOK I LOVE SILVER AND GOLD COINS TOO BUT WE ARE BEING LED DOWN THE SAME ROAD LIKE THEY LED US ON CALLED PRICE INCREASE; They are jacking up gold and silver prices just like they did to home prices-then they'll  drop them again and we'll be left crying. I got a few thousand dollars' worth of gold and silver but I wont invest my entire savings into gold and silver and then wait like a scared cat to see if prices will increase or decrease.Instead I bought a 2nd home cash, and a store!

  • I don't have any rounds yet. My worry is that if the SHTF black market might have more problems with rounds compared to government issued. Like the Maples. I love the maples. Beautiful! And .9999 compared to the American .999 I'll pay a bit more for that extra "9". But like I said, just a bit. :) Great informative video though. Nicely done.

  • If your interested in getting more silver for less money you can't go wrong with silver snowball, I've been doing it for just 3 months and this month I received 6 silver eagle coins for just $42.50 US, that includes shipping all the way from the states to me in New Zealand.

    Alreadly had 2 more sign ups this month so I'll be getting 7 silver ealges next month for the same price : )

    If anyone's interested click on my username to see my vid's on how you can get started.

  • That statement doesn't mean marrying is wrong. Just saying people are going to be people all the way to destruction.

  • "As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the Son of man, They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all (Luke 17:26-27)."

  • apmex is the best place to buy all your metals...

    gold & silver

  • Also check out bulliondirect they have been just as good I notice that apmex is getting kinda high

  • Scottsdale Silver is another GREAT place