Go to a search engine & look for RON PAUL OFFICIAL WEB PAGE - use either a credit card or buy a major company money order - ALL Ron Paulers need to NOW send a donation sm-med-or large. 3 KEYS NOW for Ron Paul --1) BUYING TV TIME for ads --- 2) all SUPPORTERS must be registered GOP & vote in PRIMARYS, contact local Bd. of Elections-ask about PRIMARY VOTING RULES your state 3) GET RP gear - sign - car sticker - cap - shirt - badge & BE SEEN PUBLICLY OFTEN
@cfr53 I've always wanted to ask an experienced person what the punch tasted like. So was it bitter? Or did you just gulp it? If you were forced, by heaven they will pay.
@lordjavathe3rd Since you asked, mediocre. Didn't like everything in it, but given the choices of mediocre punch and a vat of raw sewage, it wasn't a tough decision. "If you were forced" - we'll all be forced to accept one or the other, unfortunately. Good question though.
@cfr53 Your response was good humored for what I said. Sort of makes me respect you. I understand why you want RP to win, but reform to our political system will probably only come after mandated transparency and resulting societal uproar from immoral behavior. That will come from advances in technology, so I'm political through my desire to see and potentially help advance computer software.I've thought about why good decisions don't often happen in politics.The answer is people, lost of people
@lordjavathe3rd "That will come from advances in technology" - you make an excellent point that a lot of people seem to miss. Even now we have some powerful tools at our disposal, FB and youtube just to name a couple, but I imagine they don't even begin to scratch the surface of what could be done. I think you nailed it, mandated transparency would be the catalyst to true gov't reform, and it's not out of reach. I think you're on to something, seems the tools are there to make that possible.
All these media people continue to ask him asinine questions... why do they ask paul about Mitts or Bachmanns campaign... Talk to Paul about HIS campaign.. he's right there in the fucking chair!! Arghhhhh!!!
CANADIANS FOR RON PAUL....if you want to help out the campaign buy one of his RP mugs for a price/donation of $25, $50 or $100. I bought Ron Paul t-shirt and will be wearing it in my hometown of Vancouver, BC......GO RON PAUL!!!
he is just a better devil you know, thats all.he has a good heart maybe and is wise sometimes but will still lead a luciferian system that will go against the ways of god. man what yoda says to luke in that famous starwars moment when they are training has more wisdom then any polotician i have ever heard. when you start hearing people say this kind of stuff then you will see a leader.
It's annoying and insulting when these "journalists" keep asking him about a Third Party run...a) He's not just gonna tell you flat out b) It's the nicest way they have of suggesting: "You won't get the Republican nomination, you unelectable nutjob." Just let him run as a REPUBLICAN who stands for a true REPUBLIC! Ron Paul 2012.
In order for Dr.Paul to win, HE NEEDS THE PRIMARY. That's the toughest part.
IF YOU WANT TO VOTE IN PRIMARY YOU HAVE TO BE REGISTERED REPUBLICAN! If you don't switch parties in time, (3 months ahead in some states) YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO VOTE!!
Switch in time democrats and independents! Republicans:GET TO THE PRIMARIES!! ALL OF YOU!!! YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO NOW DO IT!!
I would be proud of the office if this man were to become President. It is my hope that people would take the time to look at what he is saying and how he has voted in the past and evan If they don't agree with everything he says realize he has principal and honor. Those things can restore our country and our standing in the world community as well as give the American people a renewed vigor for overcoming the Obstacles that have been thrown at us by powers who would try and destroy us.
If they had shown a graph of how many households need Government help evey year in the past decade or more, instead of just this year, the upward trend would have made a very easy sell on what Ron Paul explains.
"There are more people living under bridges now than back then."
A very true statement Dr Paul. Since a war on poverty was declared 45 years ago, the results are that we have literally spent trillions and the result..we have more people living in poverty than ever before. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over..yet expecting different results. Yeah let's spend even more on poverty programs.
I would be proud of the office if this man were to become President.It is my hope that people would take time to look at what he is saying and how he has voted in the past evan If they don't agree with everything he says. He has principal an honor.Those things can and will not only restore our country but our standing in the world community as well as give the American people a renewed vigor for overcoming Obstacles that have been thrown at us by powers who would try and destroy us from within.
The ''anti-cop'' protest is fabricated by the Media in order to OVERSHADOW the real END THE FED movement and discredit protesters by depicting them as ''hippies'';
It's not about cops
Don't let these people usurp and redefine the real message
Go viral on ''anti-cop'' boards with the REAL message
@ThisIsRogueLiberty Keep in mind that for the US gov't money is not scarce. We aren't on a gold standard anymore. Money is not the limiting factor; political will is, and *real world resources* are.
The real question is not about "how to pay", but how to prioritize. Should we allocate resources to building bombs for war and yachts for CEOs? Or should we allocate to full employment and (as TagiFawn would like) education?
Gov't spending should promote market stability and the public good.
I think education should be free. Prison doesn't cost people who are incarcerated money? Why should people who want an education have to pay. Close the prisons, not colleges. Quit pating postal workers 23 bucks and hour. Set salary limits for every job. Make Exxon pay some taxes. His proposals will only hurt the poor people. Rich people never suffer... never.. only the poor.
@TagiFawn So, you'd like to fill the colleges with prisoners? I don't get it. You also call for price controls... have you any idea of the history and consequences of these?
Perhaps YOU should go to college, then be forced to educate your neighbors' kids for free, while prevented by taxation/coercion from earning enough to have kids of your own, unless you wish to sacrifice them to the same fate, serving the federal collective at the expense of their own personal lives and liberty?
Glad to hear Ron Paul is non-committal on 3rd party run. If Ron Paul does not win the nomination, he can FORCE the RINO nominee and the Republicant party to accept his $1 Trillion program along with other conservative principles.
Who is that woman? She pretends to be a respectful journalist when Paul's on the show, and then hounds or disregards him whenever he's not there to defend himself.
Don't fall for party systems, VOTE FOR PRINCIPLES! VOTE RON PAUL! The election is not next November. It is NOW! If we don't win the battle of the primaries it's over. And the primaries are being fought now. Register Republican ASAP! Go to BLUEREPUBLICAN(dot)ORG to know how to register in your state!
CAPITALISM was designed only for CORRUPT OPPORTUNISTIC MANIPULATIVE LAZY POLITICIAN. BANKERS. LAWYERS. DRUG LORDS. JUDGES. CRIMINALS. DICTATORS. RULERS. KING. SULTANATE. EMPEROR etc. etc..
HARD WORKING PEACE LOVING HAPPY HONEST SOCIETY were always the slave victim and poorly starve to death. :(
@DidYouJustMakeThatUp Citizens have zero power because they were duped into giving it all away to the government. And your solution? Give even more power to the feds. I'm sure the guy you support voted for the Bailout to banksters and supported the rest of the Stimulii to corporate cronies and more bankers, and supports continued debasement of the dollar with every "Quantitative Easing" and other creative names like the recent Twist. If people don't get that power corrupts, they get gulled
I doubt that there is anyone else even remotely as educated or familiar with the problems facing our nation or the solutions on how to correct them.
.
From the monetary system to education to health care, Ron Paul has a deep understanding on all the issues, identifies the problem and presents real solutions.
.
Please people, do not pass up this opportunity for real positive change.
.
The establishment Democrats AND Republicans got us into this mess, give Ron Paul one chance to get us out.
She asked Paul "Does that make HIM (Mitt Romney) unelectable?"
Paul was talking about Mitt Romney changing his position or "flip-flopping". She was just asking that followup question. Nothing notorious in this vid, she was rather polite I thought.
Man,... It's like Ron Paul announced that he's taking away Candy Crowley's Twinkies. They should have displayed both cameras during this interview. I would have loved to see the expression on her face when he stated "anyone who's ambitious enough will get to go to college."
Poor Interview, Blatant attempt to make Ron look unsympathetic to low income people wishing to attend college - Failed. Hypotheticals about 3rd party runs and asking Ron to comment on opinions of journalists trying to get readers. AND THEY WONDER WHY WE HATE THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA
Cutting bloated Government departments and non essential workers would alone balance the budget. Most departments are redundant at the state level, some are completely unconstitutional. 80% of the Federal Government just skims money before it's final destination. I like Ron Paul. I support him financially. But if he does not get it You gotta go Conservative Republicans.
The Democratic party has been hijacked lock stock and barrel by Marxists.
Hey look, it's Ron Paul on CNN! Oh wait, who am I kidding...the media completely ignores Ron Paul. Yeah, that's right...the media gives Ron Paul ZERO media attention -- the 'truth' evaded me for a moment. My bad.
With all my due respect to Ron Paul, I think cutting the gov't this much is unrealistic and destructive. It is the function of the state to guarantee economic and social justice. You cannot just withdraw your support to millions through such simplistically conceptualized ideas. However I also accept that Ron is the only decent Republican candidate on the stage. He is sincere about the proposals he is making. And some of his ideas are worth consideration.
How is cutting 1T by eliminating some of the inefficient federal depts unrealistic? Spending how much we do for war and federal agencies is what is unrealistic.
Cuts are unavoidable, on that I agree. But it is clear that you cannot cut the US budget down overnight and indiscriminately without undermining the very fabric of society and prompring a spiraling instability in the country. And not only on the soil of America. The US is not Zimbabwe or Greece. Any reckless measure is going to get both the US and the world into an economic abyss.
PULEESE, saint ron. Massive school debt has been a reality for decades. these kids are just pissed off because they're Mommy & Daddy didn't foot the bill, like good white folk are supposed to (Mommy & Daddy now being jobless on top of having their retirement savings stolen from them). Saint Ron likes to jump on the bandwagons that people too young to see through his millionaire BS rhetoric like to hear...school debt, pot, etc. Just don't get preggers if you don't want it on saint ron's watch
@TripleSpeak The primary cost-driver in education for at least the last 20 years has been the skyrocketing price of health insurance premiums. In 2003 alone, premiums increased, on average, by 15-20%.
I was an assistant to a professor at a law school at that time, and he had to seek a new employer because the school changed health insurance policies in order to not greatly increase tuition rates and price a large percentage of students out of an education.
@PostSurgeOperative yes, & very few of the young brownshirts that saint ron is recruiting give a crap about healthcare because they're too young to care. Try to tell them about such realities & they don't want to hear it (just like their elder fanatics ;o) But idiots like this one will argue against single-payor health care. Of course, this millionaire gov't teat sucker hasn't had to deal w/it either as a doc or a patient in decades.
@TripleSpeak The Ron Paul supporters are as deluded as the remaining Obama supporters as this point. They simply don't get it, and refuse to understand that no single individual can change this system. (See the vitriol +hate comments on my vid re Paul). Just a small example of the kind of people he tends to attract. Too bad, because the viewers on MoxNews actually uprate progressive vids, at the same time as uprating Paul's econ stuff, even though they are diametrically opposed on the solutions
@TheDudeInTheBox yup the only one on tv these days with an ounce of class and respect and all the scum elitist leg ridering slaves do is tear him apart and twist and bash his words. words that make such dam sense and have been for forty years
omfg what will we ever do without our overlord government masters stealing money from one group to give to another? We would all die instantly and be attacked by terrorists.
@19TEC85 Only government can keep me safe. Paultards better watch out because one day space aliens might invade and then they will wish they didn't screw around with all the smart people that used to look out for us.
Ron illustrates the failure of modern liberals to understand what the nature of our problems is. The nature of our problems goes back to government subsidy. Education has far outpaced both housing and energy over the past 20 years. Why? Because anyone that can sign their name can go to college. More demand and a limited supply equals a higher cost. All liberals see is the higher cost and their answer is to throw even more gas on the fire by increasing subsidy.
Colleges see easy money so they expand their universities to accommodate students who wouldn't make it in on a merit based system. They end up graduating an endless amount of students with completely useless degrees who can't find a job. They are perfect little indentured servants at that point.
Ron does a great job on explaining his spending cuts. When the interviewer hits him with "won't some of these people suffer" (paraphrasing) Ron responds by first attacking her false dilemma. It isn't a choice between massive cuts and the status quo. It's a choice between total collapse and massive cuts.
No system is perfect. Some people will always slip through the cracks. But the fact is the free market did a far better job of taking care of people than the government has ever done and when the government ultimately collapses and can no longer take care of all its dependents, the misery is going to be extreme for a lot of people.
Ron Paul pretends like productivity hasn't been massively mechanized with tractors and automated factories. Ron Paul wants everybody to be dependent on rich people for busy work, or to get starved til malnourished and sick without healthcare and die. This is Ron Paul's way of throwing the election because he's a fkn panzy and doesn't want to get murdered by the fed. News Flash Paul, the empire is going to murder you either way.
Start spreading the news to the GOP. It's Ron Paul, or Barack Obama WILL win the general election. Those who have heard the call for liberty will be voting for Ron Paul no matter who wins the nomination.
You know what folks. Things can't be any clearer. There are those in this country who are still entrenched in the system so much so that they can't envision the U.S. as it is meant to be: a constitutional republic. They don't understand that current unconstitutional one-size-fits-all policies, laws and regulations from the top down & fractional reserve banking have utterly destroyed this nation's economy. . They just don't get it. It's time we restore our country's liberties & prosperity. RP2012
CA asks a 12 part questions/statement to start then interupts when he starts to answer. Ask him about Ron Paul positions not what others say about other candidates!
@DidYouJustMakeThatUp You and many voters and politicians are hostile to business; most other countries are far more welcoming, even communist China offers incentives. No matter how many punishments you think up, clever people will find ways to avoid coercion until you manage to build a tight police state with iron curtains all the way around. I prefer peace and freedom to work cooperatively with others of like mind. You try to start a business, see how easy it is in this political climate.
@DidYouJustMakeThatUp In our current age, increasing revenues by raising taxes on businesses will simply not work. In our age of globalization, major businesses have the mobility and capability of moving their businesses to lower regulatory and taxing environments. That is why raising taxes only chases businesses away. In the 50's when businesses were less mobile, we might have been able to get away with taxing more. Not so today.
you got my vote here is some of my beliefs the Government is to big, We have to many troops in other Countreis, We print to much money, But the biggest of all is the Government is run by Oil companies and Bankers, Oboma is a puppet and does what they tell him are you like that Ron Paul ?
Piss Poor Interview, Blatant attempt to make Ron look unsympathetic to low income people wishing to attend college - Failed. Hypotheticals about 3rd party runs and asking Ron to comment on opinions of journalists trying to get readers. AND THEY WONDER WHY WE HATE THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA
Ron paul keep up what your doing, you give me hope that liberty can rejoice once again , and that one day America can revert back to its traditional ways of limited goverment instead of keeping the masses hooked federal aid
how would ridding the income tax and adding a sales tax put more burden on the poor? if necessities like groceries is still tax free, then you only pay tax if you splurge.
Young people need to wake up. I wonder how much longer will we even have brick and mortar schools?
Times are changing we need to prepare now. and Thank the Creator for Ron Paul who is ready to cut away the cancer in our government. It has to be done, everyone knows that. Otherwise it's the young people who will be asking one day...why didn't we do something.
YOUR CHOOSE SAME-OH-SAME-OH Or try something NEW! Insanity is doing the something over and over expecting a different outcome! We are living in an INSAIN WORLD!
@DidYouJustMakeThatUp "Punishing" these "rich bastards" is not a function of government. If it were, we would be a dictatorship. No, the only thing we can do is "invite" investors and business owners to open business here. We have chased away business because of a big regulatory environment and high taxes to boot. If we want manufacturing and good paying jobs to come back, we need to lower taxes. There is no way around it. Taxing the rich higher is just going de-incentivise businesses more.
The problem is that most people do not understand modern monetary and fiscal systems. They erroneously believe, like Ron Paul, that taxes and bonds pay for government spending. They do not. Taxes are the destruction of money, which is a legal claim to wealth (not wealth itself), for the purpose of regulating the demand for money and thereby inflation/deflation.
Government spending is done through keystroke operations between the Central Bank and the Treasury department's account at the CB.
When you recognize that this is the reality. That government liabilities (so-called public debt) constitutes the money which the private sector saves, spends and from which the whole credit economy is built from. This is the fundamental nature of a sovereign floating fiat currency that the USA has been on since 1971. Public debt = Private money-credit. Whenever financial crises occur (which is often), Leviathan reappears and shows that money is actually a public monopoly.
To sum up. Public debt (currency) and private debts to banks are NOT THE SAME THING. We are currently in a debt deflation crisis, working America's ability to save and spend has been eviscerated from the transformation of an economy based on high wages to an economy based on stupefying private debt that was dependent on increasingly inflating asset prices in order to maintain the sustainability of debt repayment and hence confidence in a credit economy run on speculation.
I'll take Austrian economic theory over Modern Monetary theory and Keynesian economics any day of the week.. I don't want central economic planning. NONE. That's what folks who keep pushing those systems in college don't understand. I'm so glad I unlearned all that crap.
I'd love to hear how you specifically disagree with my statement about the realities of our system rather than grouping it into one school or another and rejecting it on face grounds. Keynes and Hayek both agreed that inflationary bubbles should be nipped, against monetarists who argued such foresight was impossible.
You WANT no central economic planning, fine. Just don't make arguments about our current monetary economy on the assumption that it is a barter exchange economy.
fair enough, I didn't specify, not b/c you're wrong about anything in your explanation, just our current monetary system in general.
But I'll tell you one thing that makes me happy is that more and more people are talking about this. Changes need to be made, good changes, of course. It's really do or die. And when I hear the IMF wanting to replace the dollar as the reserve currency. The Chinese have been talking about it too. This would be a huge problem down the line.
I agree it needs to be talked about and understood more. So much of our current political climate and what counts as good opinion is based on division into pre-set camps, just a consensus in understanding how the system actually works is the best place to begin from. I agree with Ron Paul so often in principle, and I remember a year or so ago him talking about the need for a conservative-progressive coalition on shared issues to pressure both parties.
The thing is Paul has devised a way to drastically reduce spending so that we can ween those folks who are dependent off the system slowly. That's the only way to do it. It's not moral to talk about clipping social programs now when the economy and jobs are in the tank. Once we have recovered and the free market begins to flourish, there will be so few folks who need assistance that it's not likely to be much of a problem.
Capitalism is dependent on the system. Free markets are, by definition, barter exchange economies where institutions like money and banking don't matter, they don't exist or are assumed away as NEUTRAL. We live in a capitalist monetary production economy, where markets and capital accumulation depend on pre-existing institutions like private property, legal contracts and money power.
When a bank makes a loan it creates money. Why do people accept this bank credit as money?
Because the Federal government has sovereign issuing control over a national fiat currency, whereas State governments are users of this currency. Whereas the State government is legally obliged to operate with a balanced budget, Federal sovereign governments with a floating fiat currency are under no obligation, as it is the monopoly issuer and its debts or liabilities COUNT AS credit-money in the private economy.
Miss Crowley When your guest isn't in studio ask 1 question and then let him answer. don't talk over candidate... we want more RON PAUL 2012 END THE STATUS QUO
@DidYouJustMakeThatUp You sincerely believe jobs will come from taxing the job creators? Oh I get it; you mean bureaucratic jobs -- tax collectors and enforcement police and lawyers and courts and accountants. Clever scheme, increase burdens on employers so they must pay an armies of functionaries to collect and process and enforce laws; think of all those jobs! Of course the jobs in all other sectors will disappear as employers fight off the parasites, but central planning always backfires
@frkpyr "you think he doesn't understand economics?"
He follows the Austrians, so at best he's misguided. His economic views ideological not reality-based. If he does understand, then he's deliberately misleading people. But I actually think he's a true believer.
@jstncbllr For a bunch of misguided people, the austrian school sure did a great job of predicting the housing bubble collapse. I suppose that was just a fluke, right?
@rpgCyrus Not warning us about the bubble was a failing of the economics profession. And indeed a lot of mainstream economists are crap. As is the financial media, politicians, etc.
But noticing the housing bubble was not some great feat. Lots of people raised warnings; it was kind of obvious. The FBI (fergawdsake) in 2004 warned that fraud was rampant and that a crisis was looming.
Austrian econ is outmoded & ideological. Read Bill Black, Randall Wray, Warren Mosler, Bill Mitchell.
@EdMan2012 "'Ill take Austrian economics over MMT..."
To each his own!
But I hope you realize *most* of MMT is just a description of how a sovereign currency economy like the US works. You can disagree with policy ideas of course, but the descriptive stuff isn't really debatable: it's not ideology. It's empiricism.
I prefer MMT over Austrian for much the same reasons I prefer evolution over creationism.
(Of course WRong Paul doesn't go for evolution... go figure.)
@jstncbllr But to call it misguided is dishonest. What exactly have they been wrong about? Ideological or not, our keynesian top-down model has not served our interests.
@rpgCyrus Yes, the neo-liberal, mainstream economic policies we've been following are terrible. I wouldn't call them Keynesian.
In any event, the fact that most of mainstream economic thought is screwed up doesn't make the Austrian followers right. What they're "wrong about" is methodological individualism. Have you looked at their "praxeology"? It's a philosophy. It's not reality-based.
@jstncbllr So what you are inferring is the the Austrian school is not pragmatic enough to apply to our society or current situation? I would say that Methodological Individualism has about as much merit (if not more) as the idea of central economic planning which is the idea we re-adopted in the early 1900s. You are attempting to rule out an entire school of thought because you think it's not "reality-based". What helps make our decisions if not from our own philosophy?
@rpgCyrus There is middle ground between "markets gone wild" and "central planning". Gov't policy can employ automatic stabilizers and well-designed regulation to promote market stability. Markets inherently have various modes of failure, and are not inherently stable. Gov't should *serve* the private sector by keeping the market vigorous, fair, and competitive. I'm not talking heavy-handed commie stuff.
Method. individualism=fallacy of composition. Austrians think macroecon doesn't even exist
The US gov't doesn't have a "debt problem". The non-govt sector does. They aren't the same, Ron.
The public debt is the total net financial assets held by non-govt. If you own gov't bonds or cash, that's part of the public debt. Trying to run a surplus simply removes these assets from private hands, i.e. it makes it harder for people to save.
Deficits, per se, don't matter. The *real* economy does. Let's have a permanent Jobs Guarantee program.
@jstncbllr Government debt is public debt and visa versa. The reason why government debt is public debt is because Americans must pay for the government debt indirectly through their tax dollars. To say that the bonds the government issues to bond holders is not both a liability to government AND the tax payers is lying. The government is the one responsible for paying off the debt they issue.
Right, but it's not *private* debt. If you have a $100 bill, that means *gov't owes you* $100. You can use that bill to pay your tax liability. Treasury bonds are basically the same thing. People just prefer them over cash because they pay a bit of interest.
Treasury bills/bonds are assets to their holders and liabilities to gov't. When the gov't runs a surplus, it overall drains money from the economy. It's just a matter of national income accounting.
@jstncbllr Federal Reserve Notes (our dollars) are not the same thing as bonds. One is issued by the Federal reserve, the other is issued by our government. The government issues bonds to both the Fed and private holders and in turns receives a certain amount of cash at interest. If you have a $100 bill, the Fed owes you. If you have a government bond, the government owes you. As far as holding these bonds. You are correct since governments usually don't default on their bond holders.
@jstncbllr "When the gov't runs a surplus, it overall drains money from the economy." And how is that exactly? Is it because the government will not need to issue more bonds? I think you are somehow trying to fuse Federal reserve notes with government bonds. It's not the same thing.
@rpgCyrus Yes, cash/bonds are different, but both represent a liability of the state and contribute to the public debt.
Operationally, the Fed and the Treasury work very closely together. They're both part of gov't. (No the Fed is not a "private corporation" like many folks around here will claim. It's a weird hybrid and does have its problems.)
Think of it in terms of national flows and stocks. Taxes destroy money. Spending creates money. So a surplus net destroys money.
@jstncbllr the Supreme Court determined that yes, the Federal Reserve Bank is indeed a private corporation held by it's stockholder banks. And guess who those just happen to be? The banks that screwed us once again with the mortgage disaster. Yeah, you might say it has it's problems but you can say they all our problem.
Yes, the member banks are private. However the board of 7 governors is appointed by the US pres and confirmed by the senate. It's not an agency like the FBI or EPA. At the highest level it's a government institution, but it has private components. Google "federal reserve structure" for a picture. It's a complex beast.
@jstncbllr Only bonds are liabilities to the state. Our government does not issue our currency (anymore). Spending money does not create money. The federal reserve "creates" our money by printing more of it, but that of course just puts more bills into circulation and devalues the actual worth of our money. Taxing redistributes wealth, it doesn't "destroy it". If we want to create wealth, we must become more efficient and become unburdened by government. Period.
@rpgCyrus Wow... So you taking my money to give to someone else isn't destroying my wealth? Because you give it a cute name like "redistribute" it makes it okay to take the money i earn without me having a say in how it is spent? Now i've heard it all.
@Deztructor13x No, it's not okay to take your money and give it to someone else. In no way was I trying to imply that it's "okay". I'm only trying to point out that taxing doesn't "destroy" wealth in general, it just redistributes it.
I'm with you, I don't want taxes and I don't believe in a welfare state. You're jumping into this argument that's a few paragraphs long already. Try to look at it in context instead of having a knee-jerk reaction.
@jstncbllr Look at the top of a dollar bill, what does it say? "Federal Reserve Note". What does that tell you? That's right, THEY (the fed) print it. You think you can just walk to the state capital, hand them a dollar bill and they will give you something in return? The government issues debt to both private investors and the federal reserve. The fed gives them fed notes and the investors give them fed notes. You need to detach yourself from the idea that the government actually prints money.
@rpgCyrus One of us is wrong, and I don't think it's me ;)
Bills/coins are printed here: moneyfactory.gov. This is a bureau under the treasury. The Fed buys paper money by crediting the treasury's Fed account. The Fed then sells the notes to banks as needed. And banks sell them to us. All at face value.
Here's a decent explanation: wfhummel.cnchost. com/seigniorage. html
"they [the govt] will give you something in return?"
Yes, what they "give" me is extinguishment of my tax liability.
@jstncbllr I think we're both wrong to a certain extent. I am wrong that the Fed actually prints the money. I am not wrong about how new money is put into circulation. The government does not issue its own money, the Fed does. the government sells treasury bonds to the Fed in exchange for Fed notes (which the Bureau of Engraving and Printing prints). The Fed does not "sell" these notes to the banks, they lend them at interest per the fractional banking system.
@jstncbllr The banks do not "sell" dollars, they loan them. This at least should be understood. I would suggest reading an article on money creation before continuing this idea that the government gives us our money.
I was only talking about bank notes; actual physical bills. A bank "sells" notes by debiting the buyer's deposit account. Aka: cash withdrawal. But yes, there is much more to "money" than just cash.
I still disagree w/ most of your statements about how monetary system works. If you'd like converse in detail, you can PM me.
Or google "Soft Currency Economics" by Mosler, "Operational Realities" by Fullwiler, or "Hierarchy of Money" by Bell.
@jstncbllr Running a surplus does NOT remove bonds from bond holders, and in no way is it directly related to people being able to save money. I have no idea where you even came up with that.
Deficits do matter, that is if you want to get the government out of the business of "stimulating" the economy.
Yes they matter, but only relative to real economic conditions. When the economy is at full capacity, deficits are usually bad. OTOH when we have a big trade deficit and unemployment, like now, deficits are good.
The gov't has spend for us to have money, that's how it works. If it stopped spending completely, then overall private debt would increase as the money supply decreased (from taxes)
Google "soft currency economics" or "deficits 101" for a full explanation.
Get rid of the debt. Get rid of the mandates and more coporations and small businesses will start hiring again. They are afraid to hire because government involvment is causing everything to backfire.
This has been flagged as spam show
Go to a search engine & look for RON PAUL OFFICIAL WEB PAGE - use either a credit card or buy a major company money order - ALL Ron Paulers need to NOW send a donation sm-med-or large. 3 KEYS NOW for Ron Paul --1) BUYING TV TIME for ads --- 2) all SUPPORTERS must be registered GOP & vote in PRIMARYS, contact local Bd. of Elections-ask about PRIMARY VOTING RULES your state 3) GET RP gear - sign - car sticker - cap - shirt - badge & BE SEEN PUBLICLY OFTEN
charles43110 3 months ago
Ron beats Obama in head to head polls
DCUPtoejuice 3 months ago
Candy doesn't want to see federal benefits cut. She's angling to use taxpayer funds to pay for her inevitable quadruple bypass surgery in 20 years.
mrfresh976 3 months ago
I CHALLENGE EVERY SINGLE PAUL SUPPORTER TO CONVINCE AT LEAST ONE MORE PERSON TO SUPPORT RON PAUL!
Prize: 2-3x the support, victory over msm blackout, Ron Paul for president
cfr53 3 months ago
@cfr53 I've always wanted to ask an experienced person what the punch tasted like. So was it bitter? Or did you just gulp it? If you were forced, by heaven they will pay.
lordjavathe3rd 3 months ago
@lordjavathe3rd Since you asked, mediocre. Didn't like everything in it, but given the choices of mediocre punch and a vat of raw sewage, it wasn't a tough decision. "If you were forced" - we'll all be forced to accept one or the other, unfortunately. Good question though.
cfr53 3 months ago
@cfr53 Your response was good humored for what I said. Sort of makes me respect you. I understand why you want RP to win, but reform to our political system will probably only come after mandated transparency and resulting societal uproar from immoral behavior. That will come from advances in technology, so I'm political through my desire to see and potentially help advance computer software.I've thought about why good decisions don't often happen in politics.The answer is people, lost of people
lordjavathe3rd 3 months ago
@lordjavathe3rd "That will come from advances in technology" - you make an excellent point that a lot of people seem to miss. Even now we have some powerful tools at our disposal, FB and youtube just to name a couple, but I imagine they don't even begin to scratch the surface of what could be done. I think you nailed it, mandated transparency would be the catalyst to true gov't reform, and it's not out of reach. I think you're on to something, seems the tools are there to make that possible.
cfr53 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
September 9, 2011
G. Edwin Griffin: Currency & The Creature From Jekyll Island
END THE FED!
watch & listen please
charles43110 3 months ago
All these media people continue to ask him asinine questions... why do they ask paul about Mitts or Bachmanns campaign... Talk to Paul about HIS campaign.. he's right there in the fucking chair!! Arghhhhh!!!
lestliness 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
CANADIANS FOR RON PAUL....if you want to help out the campaign buy one of his RP mugs for a price/donation of $25, $50 or $100. I bought Ron Paul t-shirt and will be wearing it in my hometown of Vancouver, BC......GO RON PAUL!!!
juiceyjas23 4 months ago
he is just a better devil you know, thats all.he has a good heart maybe and is wise sometimes but will still lead a luciferian system that will go against the ways of god. man what yoda says to luke in that famous starwars moment when they are training has more wisdom then any polotician i have ever heard. when you start hearing people say this kind of stuff then you will see a leader.
jreaper5000000 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Ron Paul is our only hope. We have to stop Romney and Obama!
RON PAUL 2012!!!!
gangelone999 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Watch this to find out how to get Ron Paul nominated!
watch?v=HawiHvxloms
croakingembryo 4 months ago
It's annoying and insulting when these "journalists" keep asking him about a Third Party run...a) He's not just gonna tell you flat out b) It's the nicest way they have of suggesting: "You won't get the Republican nomination, you unelectable nutjob." Just let him run as a REPUBLICAN who stands for a true REPUBLIC! Ron Paul 2012.
barrasso11 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
WINNING STRATEGY:
In order for Dr.Paul to win, HE NEEDS THE PRIMARY. That's the toughest part.
IF YOU WANT TO VOTE IN PRIMARY YOU HAVE TO BE REGISTERED REPUBLICAN! If you don't switch parties in time, (3 months ahead in some states) YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO VOTE!!
Switch in time democrats and independents! Republicans:GET TO THE PRIMARIES!! ALL OF YOU!!! YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO NOW DO IT!!
Please help spread this message
mrearlygold 4 months ago
I would be proud of the office if this man were to become President. It is my hope that people would take the time to look at what he is saying and how he has voted in the past and evan If they don't agree with everything he says realize he has principal and honor. Those things can restore our country and our standing in the world community as well as give the American people a renewed vigor for overcoming the Obstacles that have been thrown at us by powers who would try and destroy us.
Ruzzellpuzzel 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I just can't stand her.
Signzit 4 months ago
If they had shown a graph of how many households need Government help evey year in the past decade or more, instead of just this year, the upward trend would have made a very easy sell on what Ron Paul explains.
GeofsFilms 4 months ago
Everything a government does has a negative effect, his words. Anarchy breeds peace.
frostyuk2007 4 months ago
"There are more people living under bridges now than back then."
A very true statement Dr Paul. Since a war on poverty was declared 45 years ago, the results are that we have literally spent trillions and the result..we have more people living in poverty than ever before. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over..yet expecting different results. Yeah let's spend even more on poverty programs.
mtoasty 4 months ago 2
I would be proud of the office if this man were to become President.It is my hope that people would take time to look at what he is saying and how he has voted in the past evan If they don't agree with everything he says. He has principal an honor.Those things can and will not only restore our country but our standing in the world community as well as give the American people a renewed vigor for overcoming Obstacles that have been thrown at us by powers who would try and destroy us from within.
Ruzzellpuzzel 4 months ago 2
What a cow.
freedomman121 4 months ago
Comment removed
gaallegos 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Fight propaganda
Fight the media crusade against the real message
The ''anti-cop'' protest is fabricated by the Media in order to OVERSHADOW the real END THE FED movement and discredit protesters by depicting them as ''hippies'';
It's not about cops
Don't let these people usurp and redefine the real message
Go viral on ''anti-cop'' boards with the REAL message
END THE FED
cbasallie 4 months ago
Ron is so... Humble. I love that about him.
IBloodSweatTears 4 months ago 4
@TagiFawn "I think education should be free."...lol
WHERE DOES THE FKN $ COME FROM TO PAY FOR IT???
People better start to come to grips with what makes a heatlhy economy and the best chance at prosperity and what does not.
RON2012PAUL
ThisIsRogueLiberty 4 months ago
@ThisIsRogueLiberty Keep in mind that for the US gov't money is not scarce. We aren't on a gold standard anymore. Money is not the limiting factor; political will is, and *real world resources* are.
The real question is not about "how to pay", but how to prioritize. Should we allocate resources to building bombs for war and yachts for CEOs? Or should we allocate to full employment and (as TagiFawn would like) education?
Gov't spending should promote market stability and the public good.
jstncbllr 4 months ago
@jstncbllr We will never have a healthy economy again until we END the Federal Reserve(.) and return to sound money(.)
"Gov't spending" should not promote market stability...only a free market promoted by gov't can do that.
The more Gov't spends, the more the Federal Reserve prints, and the more in debt we all become...THAT's the FKN problem.
ThisIsRogueLiberty 4 months ago
I think education should be free. Prison doesn't cost people who are incarcerated money? Why should people who want an education have to pay. Close the prisons, not colleges. Quit pating postal workers 23 bucks and hour. Set salary limits for every job. Make Exxon pay some taxes. His proposals will only hurt the poor people. Rich people never suffer... never.. only the poor.
TagiFawn 4 months ago
@TagiFawn So, you'd like to fill the colleges with prisoners? I don't get it. You also call for price controls... have you any idea of the history and consequences of these?
Perhaps YOU should go to college, then be forced to educate your neighbors' kids for free, while prevented by taxation/coercion from earning enough to have kids of your own, unless you wish to sacrifice them to the same fate, serving the federal collective at the expense of their own personal lives and liberty?
rsimpson69 4 months ago
Glad to hear Ron Paul is non-committal on 3rd party run. If Ron Paul does not win the nomination, he can FORCE the RINO nominee and the Republicant party to accept his $1 Trillion program along with other conservative principles.
guitarland 4 months ago
If your so scared of him going 3rd Party, vote the man in!
ds4081 4 months ago
Why would he rule out a third party bid?? If the GOP doesn't nominate him, they deserve to lose, and will as Ron Paul will be written in.
38spence 4 months ago
Who is that woman? She pretends to be a respectful journalist when Paul's on the show, and then hounds or disregards him whenever he's not there to defend himself.
TMOvids 4 months ago 2
Prisons are already privately owned in most cases.
Jakelucas47 4 months ago
Couldn't they ask him something the voters might want to know instead of this pundit BS like 3rd party run?
Fucking beltway bitches
deadballo 4 months ago
God that woman is so fat and gross. Lose some weight lady.
JesseKantstopolis 4 months ago
@JesseKantstopolis you are acting like a child; Real adults simply don't think the way you do. I hope deep down you can see that.
HunkyTalkenMonkey01 4 months ago
whoever wants to grill Paul gets to give Anderson Cooper a free blowjob who wants the interview? OH ME OH ME OH ME!
EsCurve 4 months ago
I hope being respectful and polite wins the nomination. Ron Paul 2012!!
greenmoney77 4 months ago
▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ஜ۩۞۩ஜ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
Don't fall for party systems, VOTE FOR PRINCIPLES! VOTE RON PAUL! The election is not next November. It is NOW! If we don't win the battle of the primaries it's over. And the primaries are being fought now. Register Republican ASAP! Go to BLUEREPUBLICAN(dot)ORG to know how to register in your state!
▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ஜ۩۞۩ஜ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
tinadexler 4 months ago 36
@tinadexler
Thank you. I easily located the registration form of my state. Thanks again.
HeroOfChristArchives 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
CAPITALISM creates ELITE CRIMINALS. BANKERS. DRUG LORDS. INEQUALITY. INSECURITY. GREED. RUTHLESS COMMUNISM. NWO. NAZI. TERRORISM. LAZY PEOPLE. REBEL POLITICIAN. ANARCHY. worst is WAR etc.. etc..
CAPITALISM was designed only for CORRUPT OPPORTUNISTIC MANIPULATIVE LAZY POLITICIAN. BANKERS. LAWYERS. DRUG LORDS. JUDGES. CRIMINALS. DICTATORS. RULERS. KING. SULTANATE. EMPEROR etc. etc..
HARD WORKING PEACE LOVING HAPPY HONEST SOCIETY were always the slave victim and poorly starve to death. :(
kopellhinex 3 months ago
@tinadexler Registered 1st time republican to vote for Dr. Paul!
bnewton65 3 months ago 2
Ron paul=logic and common sense, opposition= in fairy land.
Whyunounderstand 4 months ago 2
@DidYouJustMakeThatUp Citizens have zero power because they were duped into giving it all away to the government. And your solution? Give even more power to the feds. I'm sure the guy you support voted for the Bailout to banksters and supported the rest of the Stimulii to corporate cronies and more bankers, and supports continued debasement of the dollar with every "Quantitative Easing" and other creative names like the recent Twist. If people don't get that power corrupts, they get gulled
leafwatch 4 months ago
Ron Paul! Honesty, Integrity, Liberty and Freedom!
NCIcaucus 4 months ago 23
I doubt that there is anyone else even remotely as educated or familiar with the problems facing our nation or the solutions on how to correct them.
.
From the monetary system to education to health care, Ron Paul has a deep understanding on all the issues, identifies the problem and presents real solutions.
.
Please people, do not pass up this opportunity for real positive change.
.
The establishment Democrats AND Republicans got us into this mess, give Ron Paul one chance to get us out.
jakesteel1 4 months ago 4
Comment removed
jmlew 4 months ago 16
@jmlew The media is such a great divider...even better than the politicians, and they make tons of cash on keeping people fooled and divided
NCIcaucus 4 months ago
@jmlew
She asked Paul "Does that make HIM (Mitt Romney) unelectable?"
Paul was talking about Mitt Romney changing his position or "flip-flopping". She was just asking that followup question. Nothing notorious in this vid, she was rather polite I thought.
Ron Paul 2012!
drshlotzkin 4 months ago
@drshlotzkin
Thanks for the clarification. I shall delete my earlier post since I was mistaken.
jmlew 4 months ago
@jmlew especially MANdy crowley, that stupid lying bitch...
fleischpudding 4 months ago
Why are people inspired by Ron Paul?
Why do the Troops SUPPORT Ron Paul?
Here, I'm going to make it as simple as possible:
1. The Military Industrial Complex "invests" MILLIONS in "front-runner" Candidates
2. "Front-runner" Candidate gets elected.
3. "Representatives" give BILLIONS in "aid" to the militaries all over the world with the condition that the "aid" be used to "buy American."
4. The Military Industrial Complex makes TRILLIONS of dollars.
5. Go to step 1.
bigken61 4 months ago 2
Man,... It's like Ron Paul announced that he's taking away Candy Crowley's Twinkies. They should have displayed both cameras during this interview. I would have loved to see the expression on her face when he stated "anyone who's ambitious enough will get to go to college."
czeringue 4 months ago 2
So pervasive is the idea that if you are against government doing something than you are against that thing being done at all...
BigDaddyDJD 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Poor Interview, Blatant attempt to make Ron look unsympathetic to low income people wishing to attend college - Failed. Hypotheticals about 3rd party runs and asking Ron to comment on opinions of journalists trying to get readers. AND THEY WONDER WHY WE HATE THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA
DDarko240 4 months ago
Cutting bloated Government departments and non essential workers would alone balance the budget. Most departments are redundant at the state level, some are completely unconstitutional. 80% of the Federal Government just skims money before it's final destination. I like Ron Paul. I support him financially. But if he does not get it You gotta go Conservative Republicans.
The Democratic party has been hijacked lock stock and barrel by Marxists.
ConservativeLogic 4 months ago
Little Miss Piggy trying to manipulate and distort the issues & associating Ron Paul into the third party. Fucking Tool...
JUNITO84 4 months ago 2
Gotta cut the fat! LOL
ammiralowling 4 months ago
Hey look, it's Ron Paul on CNN! Oh wait, who am I kidding...the media completely ignores Ron Paul. Yeah, that's right...the media gives Ron Paul ZERO media attention -- the 'truth' evaded me for a moment. My bad.
hanslute 4 months ago
With all my due respect to Ron Paul, I think cutting the gov't this much is unrealistic and destructive. It is the function of the state to guarantee economic and social justice. You cannot just withdraw your support to millions through such simplistically conceptualized ideas. However I also accept that Ron is the only decent Republican candidate on the stage. He is sincere about the proposals he is making. And some of his ideas are worth consideration.
elvinyusifi 4 months ago
@elvinyusifi
How is cutting 1T by eliminating some of the inefficient federal depts unrealistic? Spending how much we do for war and federal agencies is what is unrealistic.
jmlew 4 months ago
Cuts are unavoidable, on that I agree. But it is clear that you cannot cut the US budget down overnight and indiscriminately without undermining the very fabric of society and prompring a spiraling instability in the country. And not only on the soil of America. The US is not Zimbabwe or Greece. Any reckless measure is going to get both the US and the world into an economic abyss.
elvinyusifi 4 months ago
PULEESE, saint ron. Massive school debt has been a reality for decades. these kids are just pissed off because they're Mommy & Daddy didn't foot the bill, like good white folk are supposed to (Mommy & Daddy now being jobless on top of having their retirement savings stolen from them). Saint Ron likes to jump on the bandwagons that people too young to see through his millionaire BS rhetoric like to hear...school debt, pot, etc. Just don't get preggers if you don't want it on saint ron's watch
TripleSpeak 4 months ago
@TripleSpeak The primary cost-driver in education for at least the last 20 years has been the skyrocketing price of health insurance premiums. In 2003 alone, premiums increased, on average, by 15-20%.
I was an assistant to a professor at a law school at that time, and he had to seek a new employer because the school changed health insurance policies in order to not greatly increase tuition rates and price a large percentage of students out of an education.
PostSurgeOperative 4 months ago 2
@PostSurgeOperative yes, & very few of the young brownshirts that saint ron is recruiting give a crap about healthcare because they're too young to care. Try to tell them about such realities & they don't want to hear it (just like their elder fanatics ;o) But idiots like this one will argue against single-payor health care. Of course, this millionaire gov't teat sucker hasn't had to deal w/it either as a doc or a patient in decades.
TripleSpeak 4 months ago
@TripleSpeak The Ron Paul supporters are as deluded as the remaining Obama supporters as this point. They simply don't get it, and refuse to understand that no single individual can change this system. (See the vitriol +hate comments on my vid re Paul). Just a small example of the kind of people he tends to attract. Too bad, because the viewers on MoxNews actually uprate progressive vids, at the same time as uprating Paul's econ stuff, even though they are diametrically opposed on the solutions
55ella2007k 4 months ago
@55ella2007k just as deluded, but twice as psycho.
TripleSpeak 4 months ago
that lady is a biznotch
iwillspyonyou 4 months ago
No taxes on tips or social security or capital gains
upgrade01a 4 months ago
Dr. Paul even has the class to not rise to the bait of bashing the other candidates, even given very choice nuggets indeed! Very honorable.
TheDudeInTheBox 4 months ago 28
@TheDudeInTheBox yup the only one on tv these days with an ounce of class and respect and all the scum elitist leg ridering slaves do is tear him apart and twist and bash his words. words that make such dam sense and have been for forty years
81onedeep 4 months ago
@TheDudeInTheBox
Unfortunately, that is what the media is looking for and trying to provoke. Cat fights between candidates. Then it's news, right? LOL.
What's more entertaining, political egos clashing or ACTUAL& REAL issues/solutions that matter to us all?
drshlotzkin 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Our education system is a failure! Ron Paul 2012! End the Fed.
lb8825 4 months ago
Such a humble man.
dershope 4 months ago
301 views we meet again... Go Ron!
mewrth 4 months ago
omfg what will we ever do without our overlord government masters stealing money from one group to give to another? We would all die instantly and be attacked by terrorists.
19TEC85 4 months ago
@19TEC85 Only government can keep me safe. Paultards better watch out because one day space aliens might invade and then they will wish they didn't screw around with all the smart people that used to look out for us.
OhNoyate 4 months ago
Ron illustrates the failure of modern liberals to understand what the nature of our problems is. The nature of our problems goes back to government subsidy. Education has far outpaced both housing and energy over the past 20 years. Why? Because anyone that can sign their name can go to college. More demand and a limited supply equals a higher cost. All liberals see is the higher cost and their answer is to throw even more gas on the fire by increasing subsidy.
raceboy1971 4 months ago
Colleges see easy money so they expand their universities to accommodate students who wouldn't make it in on a merit based system. They end up graduating an endless amount of students with completely useless degrees who can't find a job. They are perfect little indentured servants at that point.
raceboy1971 4 months ago
@raceboy1971 yup drunk and drugged servants! taco bell anyone??
81onedeep 4 months ago
Ron does a great job on explaining his spending cuts. When the interviewer hits him with "won't some of these people suffer" (paraphrasing) Ron responds by first attacking her false dilemma. It isn't a choice between massive cuts and the status quo. It's a choice between total collapse and massive cuts.
raceboy1971 4 months ago
No system is perfect. Some people will always slip through the cracks. But the fact is the free market did a far better job of taking care of people than the government has ever done and when the government ultimately collapses and can no longer take care of all its dependents, the misery is going to be extreme for a lot of people.
raceboy1971 4 months ago
Wow, where did they get the taking horse?
OhNoyate 4 months ago
Ron Paul pretends like productivity hasn't been massively mechanized with tractors and automated factories. Ron Paul wants everybody to be dependent on rich people for busy work, or to get starved til malnourished and sick without healthcare and die. This is Ron Paul's way of throwing the election because he's a fkn panzy and doesn't want to get murdered by the fed. News Flash Paul, the empire is going to murder you either way.
danielvincentkelley 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Start spreading the news to the GOP. It's Ron Paul, or Barack Obama WILL win the general election. Those who have heard the call for liberty will be voting for Ron Paul no matter who wins the nomination.
machaeroguy 4 months ago
Nice to see a woman presenter with some actual flesh on her bones, makes a nice change.
perrin6 4 months ago
You know what folks. Things can't be any clearer. There are those in this country who are still entrenched in the system so much so that they can't envision the U.S. as it is meant to be: a constitutional republic. They don't understand that current unconstitutional one-size-fits-all policies, laws and regulations from the top down & fractional reserve banking have utterly destroyed this nation's economy. . They just don't get it. It's time we restore our country's liberties & prosperity. RP2012
EdMan2012 4 months ago
CA asks a 12 part questions/statement to start then interupts when he starts to answer. Ask him about Ron Paul positions not what others say about other candidates!
JoeyPencils 4 months ago
He slaughtered these questions. Good job Paul. CNN you suck as always.
shaolonbros 4 months ago
the students take up loans to feed their professors..
pjohn5 4 months ago
YOUR LOGIC. GOD DAMMIT
jiffyskippy100 4 months ago
@DidYouJustMakeThatUp You and many voters and politicians are hostile to business; most other countries are far more welcoming, even communist China offers incentives. No matter how many punishments you think up, clever people will find ways to avoid coercion until you manage to build a tight police state with iron curtains all the way around. I prefer peace and freedom to work cooperatively with others of like mind. You try to start a business, see how easy it is in this political climate.
leafwatch 4 months ago
anyone else notice this lady stutter like a madman?
itssimplyjeff1 4 months ago
@DidYouJustMakeThatUp In our current age, increasing revenues by raising taxes on businesses will simply not work. In our age of globalization, major businesses have the mobility and capability of moving their businesses to lower regulatory and taxing environments. That is why raising taxes only chases businesses away. In the 50's when businesses were less mobile, we might have been able to get away with taxing more. Not so today.
rpgCyrus 4 months ago
MY PRESIDENT...!
rcacad 4 months ago
you got my vote here is some of my beliefs the Government is to big, We have to many troops in other Countreis, We print to much money, But the biggest of all is the Government is run by Oil companies and Bankers, Oboma is a puppet and does what they tell him are you like that Ron Paul ?
challenge405 4 months ago
Aguante Ron Paul!!
D10SdelFutbol 4 months ago
I am sorry but Candy Crowley with make up on is like putting perfume on a pig. literally.
hunarf 4 months ago
Piss Poor Interview, Blatant attempt to make Ron look unsympathetic to low income people wishing to attend college - Failed. Hypotheticals about 3rd party runs and asking Ron to comment on opinions of journalists trying to get readers. AND THEY WONDER WHY WE HATE THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA
DDarko240 4 months ago 19
Ron paul keep up what your doing, you give me hope that liberty can rejoice once again , and that one day America can revert back to its traditional ways of limited goverment instead of keeping the masses hooked federal aid
liberty202 4 months ago 2
ELECT THIS MAN GODAMMIT!!!!
abe2517 4 months ago 21
I got questioned by 5 police officers for being outside at 10:30pm... and I'm 18. Ron Paul, please win for us!!!!!
Austhesauce 4 months ago
how would ridding the income tax and adding a sales tax put more burden on the poor? if necessities like groceries is still tax free, then you only pay tax if you splurge.
alexandria211 4 months ago
Young people need to wake up. I wonder how much longer will we even have brick and mortar schools?
Times are changing we need to prepare now. and Thank the Creator for Ron Paul who is ready to cut away the cancer in our government. It has to be done, everyone knows that. Otherwise it's the young people who will be asking one day...why didn't we do something.
Restore America Ron Paul 2012!
1Rennae2 4 months ago
That's it? Just 9 minutes....they could have had him for 15-20 minutes. CNN is a piece of shit.
purplefetus3 4 months ago 2
This has been flagged as spam show
YOUR CHOOSE SAME-OH-SAME-OH Or try something NEW! Insanity is doing the something over and over expecting a different outcome! We are living in an INSAIN WORLD!
Oceanno69 4 months ago
Comment removed
Oceanno69 4 months ago
@DidYouJustMakeThatUp "Punishing" these "rich bastards" is not a function of government. If it were, we would be a dictatorship. No, the only thing we can do is "invite" investors and business owners to open business here. We have chased away business because of a big regulatory environment and high taxes to boot. If we want manufacturing and good paying jobs to come back, we need to lower taxes. There is no way around it. Taxing the rich higher is just going de-incentivise businesses more.
rpgCyrus 4 months ago
The problem is that most people do not understand modern monetary and fiscal systems. They erroneously believe, like Ron Paul, that taxes and bonds pay for government spending. They do not. Taxes are the destruction of money, which is a legal claim to wealth (not wealth itself), for the purpose of regulating the demand for money and thereby inflation/deflation.
Government spending is done through keystroke operations between the Central Bank and the Treasury department's account at the CB.
OgallalaKnowhow 4 months ago
@OgallalaKnowhow
When you recognize that this is the reality. That government liabilities (so-called public debt) constitutes the money which the private sector saves, spends and from which the whole credit economy is built from. This is the fundamental nature of a sovereign floating fiat currency that the USA has been on since 1971. Public debt = Private money-credit. Whenever financial crises occur (which is often), Leviathan reappears and shows that money is actually a public monopoly.
OgallalaKnowhow 4 months ago
@OgallalaKnowhow
To sum up. Public debt (currency) and private debts to banks are NOT THE SAME THING. We are currently in a debt deflation crisis, working America's ability to save and spend has been eviscerated from the transformation of an economy based on high wages to an economy based on stupefying private debt that was dependent on increasingly inflating asset prices in order to maintain the sustainability of debt repayment and hence confidence in a credit economy run on speculation.
OgallalaKnowhow 4 months ago
@OgallalaKnowhow
I'll take Austrian economic theory over Modern Monetary theory and Keynesian economics any day of the week.. I don't want central economic planning. NONE. That's what folks who keep pushing those systems in college don't understand. I'm so glad I unlearned all that crap.
EdMan2012 4 months ago
@EdMan2012
I'd love to hear how you specifically disagree with my statement about the realities of our system rather than grouping it into one school or another and rejecting it on face grounds. Keynes and Hayek both agreed that inflationary bubbles should be nipped, against monetarists who argued such foresight was impossible.
You WANT no central economic planning, fine. Just don't make arguments about our current monetary economy on the assumption that it is a barter exchange economy.
OgallalaKnowhow 4 months ago
@OgallalaKnowhow
fair enough, I didn't specify, not b/c you're wrong about anything in your explanation, just our current monetary system in general.
But I'll tell you one thing that makes me happy is that more and more people are talking about this. Changes need to be made, good changes, of course. It's really do or die. And when I hear the IMF wanting to replace the dollar as the reserve currency. The Chinese have been talking about it too. This would be a huge problem down the line.
EdMan2012 4 months ago
@EdMan2012
I agree it needs to be talked about and understood more. So much of our current political climate and what counts as good opinion is based on division into pre-set camps, just a consensus in understanding how the system actually works is the best place to begin from. I agree with Ron Paul so often in principle, and I remember a year or so ago him talking about the need for a conservative-progressive coalition on shared issues to pressure both parties.
OgallalaKnowhow 4 months ago
The thing is Paul has devised a way to drastically reduce spending so that we can ween those folks who are dependent off the system slowly. That's the only way to do it. It's not moral to talk about clipping social programs now when the economy and jobs are in the tank. Once we have recovered and the free market begins to flourish, there will be so few folks who need assistance that it's not likely to be much of a problem.
curiousinkling 4 months ago
@curiousinkling
Capitalism is dependent on the system. Free markets are, by definition, barter exchange economies where institutions like money and banking don't matter, they don't exist or are assumed away as NEUTRAL. We live in a capitalist monetary production economy, where markets and capital accumulation depend on pre-existing institutions like private property, legal contracts and money power.
When a bank makes a loan it creates money. Why do people accept this bank credit as money?
OgallalaKnowhow 4 months ago
Why insist that people need *FEDERAL* help? I'll agree some people might need *help* but "Federal"? Why does it have to be federal?
HackerNewsNetwork 4 months ago
@HackerNewsNetwork
Because the Federal government has sovereign issuing control over a national fiat currency, whereas State governments are users of this currency. Whereas the State government is legally obliged to operate with a balanced budget, Federal sovereign governments with a floating fiat currency are under no obligation, as it is the monopoly issuer and its debts or liabilities COUNT AS credit-money in the private economy.
OgallalaKnowhow 4 months ago
The top 1% of universities is sitting on $230 billion total endowments. The problem is the schools.
derhammerman 4 months ago
Christian colleges are now stealing my money to fund government assisted religious education.
"Fear is the mark of a slave." - Diogenes of Sinope
wasuretta 4 months ago
He won't win because Americans can't accept the truth..get ready you will get a collapse of the economy if you wanna sacrifice nothing
Vertigo2903 4 months ago
What can I say, simply brilliant Ron.
nikolayzou 4 months ago 13
Miss Crowley When your guest isn't in studio ask 1 question and then let him answer. don't talk over candidate... we want more RON PAUL 2012 END THE STATUS QUO
chuckA865 4 months ago
@DidYouJustMakeThatUp You sincerely believe jobs will come from taxing the job creators? Oh I get it; you mean bureaucratic jobs -- tax collectors and enforcement police and lawyers and courts and accountants. Clever scheme, increase burdens on employers so they must pay an armies of functionaries to collect and process and enforce laws; think of all those jobs! Of course the jobs in all other sectors will disappear as employers fight off the parasites, but central planning always backfires
leafwatch 4 months ago
If they dont qualify for a private loan why should they qualify for a federal tax payer loan??
gold95 4 months ago
Respond to this video... If paul was to get elected all you paulbots would get a very rude awakening!
420gma 4 months ago
I love how she is trying the bait and switch this entire interview
MrZoso78 4 months ago
@jstncbllr you think he doesn't understand economics? He is responsible for over seeing the fed
frkpyr 4 months ago
@frkpyr "you think he doesn't understand economics?"
He follows the Austrians, so at best he's misguided. His economic views ideological not reality-based. If he does understand, then he's deliberately misleading people. But I actually think he's a true believer.
jstncbllr 4 months ago
@jstncbllr For a bunch of misguided people, the austrian school sure did a great job of predicting the housing bubble collapse. I suppose that was just a fluke, right?
rpgCyrus 4 months ago
@rpgCyrus Not warning us about the bubble was a failing of the economics profession. And indeed a lot of mainstream economists are crap. As is the financial media, politicians, etc.
But noticing the housing bubble was not some great feat. Lots of people raised warnings; it was kind of obvious. The FBI (fergawdsake) in 2004 warned that fraud was rampant and that a crisis was looming.
Austrian econ is outmoded & ideological. Read Bill Black, Randall Wray, Warren Mosler, Bill Mitchell.
jstncbllr 4 months ago
@jstncbllr
I'll take Austrian economics over modern monetary theory & Keynesian economics any day of the week.
EdMan2012 4 months ago 21
@EdMan2012 "'Ill take Austrian economics over MMT..."
To each his own!
But I hope you realize *most* of MMT is just a description of how a sovereign currency economy like the US works. You can disagree with policy ideas of course, but the descriptive stuff isn't really debatable: it's not ideology. It's empiricism.
I prefer MMT over Austrian for much the same reasons I prefer evolution over creationism.
(Of course WRong Paul doesn't go for evolution... go figure.)
jstncbllr 4 months ago
@jstncbllr But to call it misguided is dishonest. What exactly have they been wrong about? Ideological or not, our keynesian top-down model has not served our interests.
rpgCyrus 4 months ago
@rpgCyrus Yes, the neo-liberal, mainstream economic policies we've been following are terrible. I wouldn't call them Keynesian.
In any event, the fact that most of mainstream economic thought is screwed up doesn't make the Austrian followers right. What they're "wrong about" is methodological individualism. Have you looked at their "praxeology"? It's a philosophy. It's not reality-based.
Try instead some MMT:
bit. ly/qqfYrF
bit. ly/q6TZMX
Lookup Mosler, Wray, Bill MItchell, Bill Black.
jstncbllr 4 months ago
@jstncbllr So what you are inferring is the the Austrian school is not pragmatic enough to apply to our society or current situation? I would say that Methodological Individualism has about as much merit (if not more) as the idea of central economic planning which is the idea we re-adopted in the early 1900s. You are attempting to rule out an entire school of thought because you think it's not "reality-based". What helps make our decisions if not from our own philosophy?
rpgCyrus 4 months ago
@rpgCyrus There is middle ground between "markets gone wild" and "central planning". Gov't policy can employ automatic stabilizers and well-designed regulation to promote market stability. Markets inherently have various modes of failure, and are not inherently stable. Gov't should *serve* the private sector by keeping the market vigorous, fair, and competitive. I'm not talking heavy-handed commie stuff.
Method. individualism=fallacy of composition. Austrians think macroecon doesn't even exist
jstncbllr 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
/watch?v=RAKC6jkmIxY
megamogx 4 months ago
The US gov't doesn't have a "debt problem". The non-govt sector does. They aren't the same, Ron.
The public debt is the total net financial assets held by non-govt. If you own gov't bonds or cash, that's part of the public debt. Trying to run a surplus simply removes these assets from private hands, i.e. it makes it harder for people to save.
Deficits, per se, don't matter. The *real* economy does. Let's have a permanent Jobs Guarantee program.
Oh, I forgot... WRong Paul 1912!!!!
jstncbllr 4 months ago
@jstncbllr Government debt is public debt and visa versa. The reason why government debt is public debt is because Americans must pay for the government debt indirectly through their tax dollars. To say that the bonds the government issues to bond holders is not both a liability to government AND the tax payers is lying. The government is the one responsible for paying off the debt they issue.
rpgCyrus 4 months ago
@rpgCyrus "gov't debt is public debt"
Right, but it's not *private* debt. If you have a $100 bill, that means *gov't owes you* $100. You can use that bill to pay your tax liability. Treasury bonds are basically the same thing. People just prefer them over cash because they pay a bit of interest.
Treasury bills/bonds are assets to their holders and liabilities to gov't. When the gov't runs a surplus, it overall drains money from the economy. It's just a matter of national income accounting.
jstncbllr 4 months ago
@jstncbllr Federal Reserve Notes (our dollars) are not the same thing as bonds. One is issued by the Federal reserve, the other is issued by our government. The government issues bonds to both the Fed and private holders and in turns receives a certain amount of cash at interest. If you have a $100 bill, the Fed owes you. If you have a government bond, the government owes you. As far as holding these bonds. You are correct since governments usually don't default on their bond holders.
rpgCyrus 4 months ago
@jstncbllr "When the gov't runs a surplus, it overall drains money from the economy." And how is that exactly? Is it because the government will not need to issue more bonds? I think you are somehow trying to fuse Federal reserve notes with government bonds. It's not the same thing.
rpgCyrus 4 months ago
@rpgCyrus Yes, cash/bonds are different, but both represent a liability of the state and contribute to the public debt.
Operationally, the Fed and the Treasury work very closely together. They're both part of gov't. (No the Fed is not a "private corporation" like many folks around here will claim. It's a weird hybrid and does have its problems.)
Think of it in terms of national flows and stocks. Taxes destroy money. Spending creates money. So a surplus net destroys money.
bit[dot]ly/nfU2ns
jstncbllr 4 months ago
@jstncbllr the Supreme Court determined that yes, the Federal Reserve Bank is indeed a private corporation held by it's stockholder banks. And guess who those just happen to be? The banks that screwed us once again with the mortgage disaster. Yeah, you might say it has it's problems but you can say they all our problem.
OhNoyate 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@OhNoyate " Supreme Court [ruled] Fed is...private corp"
Are you talking about Lewis vs US?
Yes, the member banks are private. However the board of 7 governors is appointed by the US pres and confirmed by the senate. It's not an agency like the FBI or EPA. At the highest level it's a government institution, but it has private components. Google "federal reserve structure" for a picture. It's a complex beast.
jstncbllr 4 months ago
@jstncbllr Only bonds are liabilities to the state. Our government does not issue our currency (anymore). Spending money does not create money. The federal reserve "creates" our money by printing more of it, but that of course just puts more bills into circulation and devalues the actual worth of our money. Taxing redistributes wealth, it doesn't "destroy it". If we want to create wealth, we must become more efficient and become unburdened by government. Period.
rpgCyrus 4 months ago
@rpgCyrus Wow... So you taking my money to give to someone else isn't destroying my wealth? Because you give it a cute name like "redistribute" it makes it okay to take the money i earn without me having a say in how it is spent? Now i've heard it all.
Deztructor13x 4 months ago
@Deztructor13x No, it's not okay to take your money and give it to someone else. In no way was I trying to imply that it's "okay". I'm only trying to point out that taxing doesn't "destroy" wealth in general, it just redistributes it.
I'm with you, I don't want taxes and I don't believe in a welfare state. You're jumping into this argument that's a few paragraphs long already. Try to look at it in context instead of having a knee-jerk reaction.
rpgCyrus 4 months ago
@rpgCyrus "Only bonds are liabilities to the state" "Fed 'creates' money by printing"
No, a $1 bill is a token indicating that the US gov't owes the bearer $1. By definition, a liability.
No, bills/coins come from the treasury (bureau of engraving&printing).
The Fed adjusts bank reserves through its FMOC. This affects the interest rate. Bank reserves are not the "money supply".
Yes, when we pay taxes the money just goes "poof". The US doesn't need revenue: it's the monopoly supplier of $US.
jstncbllr 4 months ago
@jstncbllr Look at the top of a dollar bill, what does it say? "Federal Reserve Note". What does that tell you? That's right, THEY (the fed) print it. You think you can just walk to the state capital, hand them a dollar bill and they will give you something in return? The government issues debt to both private investors and the federal reserve. The fed gives them fed notes and the investors give them fed notes. You need to detach yourself from the idea that the government actually prints money.
rpgCyrus 4 months ago
@rpgCyrus One of us is wrong, and I don't think it's me ;)
Bills/coins are printed here: moneyfactory.gov. This is a bureau under the treasury. The Fed buys paper money by crediting the treasury's Fed account. The Fed then sells the notes to banks as needed. And banks sell them to us. All at face value.
Here's a decent explanation: wfhummel.cnchost. com/seigniorage. html
"they [the govt] will give you something in return?"
Yes, what they "give" me is extinguishment of my tax liability.
jstncbllr 4 months ago
@jstncbllr I think we're both wrong to a certain extent. I am wrong that the Fed actually prints the money. I am not wrong about how new money is put into circulation. The government does not issue its own money, the Fed does. the government sells treasury bonds to the Fed in exchange for Fed notes (which the Bureau of Engraving and Printing prints). The Fed does not "sell" these notes to the banks, they lend them at interest per the fractional banking system.
rpgCyrus 4 months ago
@jstncbllr The banks do not "sell" dollars, they loan them. This at least should be understood. I would suggest reading an article on money creation before continuing this idea that the government gives us our money.
rpgCyrus 4 months ago
@rpgCyrus "banks do not sell dollars, they loan"
I was only talking about bank notes; actual physical bills. A bank "sells" notes by debiting the buyer's deposit account. Aka: cash withdrawal. But yes, there is much more to "money" than just cash.
I still disagree w/ most of your statements about how monetary system works. If you'd like converse in detail, you can PM me.
Or google "Soft Currency Economics" by Mosler, "Operational Realities" by Fullwiler, or "Hierarchy of Money" by Bell.
jstncbllr 4 months ago
@jstncbllr Running a surplus does NOT remove bonds from bond holders, and in no way is it directly related to people being able to save money. I have no idea where you even came up with that.
Deficits do matter, that is if you want to get the government out of the business of "stimulating" the economy.
rpgCyrus 4 months ago
@rpgCyrus "Deficits do matter"
Yes they matter, but only relative to real economic conditions. When the economy is at full capacity, deficits are usually bad. OTOH when we have a big trade deficit and unemployment, like now, deficits are good.
The gov't has spend for us to have money, that's how it works. If it stopped spending completely, then overall private debt would increase as the money supply decreased (from taxes)
Google "soft currency economics" or "deficits 101" for a full explanation.
jstncbllr 4 months ago
Get rid of the debt. Get rid of the mandates and more coporations and small businesses will start hiring again. They are afraid to hire because government involvment is causing everything to backfire.
miracleneeded 4 months ago