BISHOPS DRAW BATTLE LINES ON RH BILL EVEN IF IT MEANS BLOODY WAR!

[ed10908]

be thankful to the catholic church --- the one whom you accused as blind and anarchic--- is the same institution that freed us from the hands of dictatorship for the last 20 years. You do not know what true freedom is all about! For it is you who is blinded by your worldly desires! The catholic church draws the line between what is morally right or wrong.. !

[DirtyNesty]

mahirap talagang kausapin ang mga taong delusyonal

[nascent26]

If a bloody war happens, then the instigators will be punished according to the law. No one is above the law of the land, even when that person is a priest. After all, the church is always separate from the state.

[nascent26]

Isn't civil disobedience essentially done without bloodshed? That's what Gandhi did. I say let them disobey in a civil manner. They have the right to do so as Filipino citizens. The important thing is that the RH Bill becomes law.

[alecniles]

If those priest start a bloody war, t they should all be put in jail, then those priests can experience being dominated like they have dominated women & children. The Catholic church spewing their hate, promotes pedaphila within the priesthood, patriachal dominance, racism, bribery and fraud. The vadican has created one of the most powerful and richest institutions on the planet with the use of blind fath and lies. Anyone who follows the Catholic church is an idiot.

[Flippitythought]

RH bill will just be a vehicle to leftists, atheists, satanists to push their agenda. Don't be deceived. NO TO RH BILL.

[TeeJoe18]

@Flippitythought,

But isn't the Catholic Church suppose to be the Satanist here?

[bbaaaalll]

The Catholic Church's power is based on massive poverty and misery of the population. This is one of most powerful reasons why people would have faith and listen to them. They will try to maintain their power at all costs! RH Bill should push through.

[Flippitythought]

This is one very important issue wherein ALL Christians must unite, Catholic or non-Catholic. Set aside any differences and abandon mudslinging.... everyone, every church has had its share of controversies, exposed or not.... This bill is a monster set before us as a nice package. Open your eyes. See the RH Bill for what it really is about... beyond its facade of pro-choice, pro-maternal health and anti-poverty.... THINK LONG-TERM.... DIG DEEP.

[TeeJoe18]

@Flippitythought,

Real Christians should never unite with an Anti Christ Church like the Catholic Church. Look I think the problem is not the really the RH bill but the malicious and deceitful minds of the Roman Catholic leaders.

[Flippitythought]

@TeeJoe18 - You're barking at the wrong tree, boy. Go to the Vatican and rant all you want there. The Catholic Church in the Phil is as clueless as you are. Accusers like you think they know everything. You ought to dig deeper, accuser.

[TeeJoe18]

@Flippitythought,

Oh really? So you feel the Catholic Church is Clueless? At least finally you got it right!

[TeeJoe18]

@Flippitythought,

And by the way, I never accused the Catholic Church of anything they didn't do.

[TeeJoe18]

@Flippitythought,

Haha! Nice try but I think it's still too early for you to give up.lol!

[ngn7]

@TeeJoe18 An advice has been given to you already. Study deeper, so that you will not get lost.

[TeeJoe18]

@ngn7,

Actually, it's you who needs to study more about the history of your Church because it seems as though you are totally ignorant of what your Church's role in Dark Ages of History. As the Bible stated in Matt. 7:16 "By their Fruit (acts) you shall recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?" In short the Institutionalized Evil acts of the Catholic Church throughout history is proof that they are indeed of the Devil! Ayan hindi ka kase nagbabasa ng Bible.

[Flippitythought]

FYI. Contraceptives don't have 100% success rate, (especially condom). Not one of them is a total guarantee you won't get pregnant. Pills and Depo-Provera injectns if taken by a woman not knowing she's already pregnant or if already in it but still got pregnant, can induce abortion. Also implants of Norplant (w/ duration effect of 5 yrs) & IUD still fail in a number if cases....THAT'S WHAT THE STUDY MEANT.

[TeeJoe18]

Methods of Contraception:

1. The Artificial Method= Commonly used by the well informed and knowledgeable.(highly effective)

2. The Natural Method= Commonly used by the Ignorant and the mislead by the Catholic Church. (hit and miss)

3. The Unnatural Method= "Abstinence" The Method of choice by the Padre Damasos. (Pathetic)

[TeeJoe18]

Contraception is just like the Vow of Celibacy of Priests. If you prevent Padre Damaso(sperm cell) from meeting with Sister Tekla (egg cell) e walang conception na mangyayari.

[69elchupacabra69]

ampangit mo boy abunda!

[lefairam]

Priests in the Philippines are nuts. They prefer to have war because they will be safe inside their churches and the one who will suffer are the common people as it always be. Pills, contraceptives or abortions are usual methods in other countries and as a result, these countries have less social and economic problems.

[gilmoreguy903]

you may not agree with the bill, but at least make it available to non-Christians/Catholics! you don't have to use condoms or take pills if you're Catholic. hindi lahat ng Pilipino ay Katoliko!

[Flippitythought]

This is a complete CRAP... a total EK-EK.

The bill is deceptive and misleading...

pretending to promote maternal health chuva

and hiding under the concept of responsible parenthood/ family planning.

When in reality, the hidden agenda is to pave the way to promote abortion

and degrade & destroy the traditional Filipino values.

The proponents misuse & fabricate data...ALL LIES!!!!

A total waste of government money.

HUWAG MAGPA-LINLANG!!!

[TeeJoe18]

@Flippitythought,

I disagree! In fact it's the Catholic Church who's misleading the people though blatant lies and gross misinformation. Their claim that contraceptives are Abortive agents is just plain stupid! Mind you Abortion is only possible AFTER conception and not before. Contraceptives are use to Prevent Conception. Paano maaabort ang di pa nacoconcieve aber? BOBO talaga tong mga Spoiled Brats na mga Pari na to! Ano akala nila sa taong bayan mga bobo?!!!!!

[Flippitythought]

@TeeJoe18 - Can you show me an official statement from the Catholic Church stating that contraceptives are abortive agents? Truth is, that misinformation was spread by leftists way back in the 90's and was blamed the on church.

Another truth is, we're not overpopulated. Watch this youtube video:

/watch?v=vZVOU5bfHrM

[TeeJoe18]

@Flippitythought,

Go search the YT vid "SIMBAHANG KATOLIKO, ITINUTURING NA ABORTIFACIENT ANG MGA ARTIFICIAL CONTRACEPTIVE."

[Flippitythought]

@TeeJoe18 - Just saw it. The video is just a clip from SAKSI. You don't get facts from a stupid reporter. Also the title and caption is misleading. Never in the interview did Bishop Odchimar say that the RC church considers all contraceptives abortifacient.

Even if the church really issued that statement, they only refer to birth control pills which studies show that if taken by a pregnant woman not knowing she's pregnant can indeed cause abortion. I hope you understand now.

[TeeJoe18]

@Flippitythought,

Come to think of it the Video I showed you was a news report with a direct quote from a BISHOP while the your video about the myth of Overpopulation was a just some bias and irrational opinion of a single individual who doesn't have a clue of what he was talking about.

[Flippitythought]

@TeeJoe18 - Hello. Are you blind? The video presented population study from the PRI as in Population Research Institute. It's not from an individual opinion. Magbasa ka. They made the video. Here's their website: pop. org and here's their youtube channel: /Colinpri1

The bishop only defined abortion in the interview but never actually mentioned your claim. You don't get facts from a reporter.

[TeeJoe18]

@Flippitythought,

For your information PRI is not an independent unbiased organization. I fact it's an organization with an Agenda as stated in their website. Watch the video again and it's so strange they only mentioned 3 elements man, shelter and food. They didn't even consider the ECO SYSTEM, THE ENVIRONMENT and how all this ties together for everything to work out in harmony with each other. Remember man is not the only factor in this world.

[TeeJoe18]

@Flippitythought,

Well, I don't get all my facts totally from reporters too. In fact I got mine straight from Bishop Cruz himself. As I said if you don;t believe me go ask your parish priest and I'm sure he will tell you the same thing.

[TeeJoe18]

@Flippitythought ,

You don't have to deny it cboz a Bishop from the CBCP told that to me personally.. He said that they consider Artificial contraception ars abortifacients. Yes as stupid as it may sound they even said the same thing for Condoms. If you don't believe go check with your local priest and I'm sure he would tell you the same lie.

[TeeJoe18]

@Flippitythought,

Btw that video about "The Myth of Overpopulation" is just plain dumb. First of all the author was just focusing on the human population alone and didn't account the other factors that make up our environment. Overpopulation is not just an issue of the number of People but also the proportion od People relative to the earth's capacity to sustain a harmonious existence of all life including plants and animals.

[Flippitythought]

@TeeJoe18 - Plain dumb? You call a scientific resarch study from the Population Research Institute as "plain dumb". Hello. Even the UN cannot deny PRI studies. Who are you to thrash those studies. Learn how to read carefully. Have you ever conducted a research study before? You sound like an arrogant progressive thug.

[TeeJoe18]

@Flippitythought,

The PRI is not an independent scientific institution and should not be trusted, The UN doesn't recognize them and so do I. And no real scientifically based study can be that dumb. All their studies are flawed to suit their agenda. They're out to convince gullible individuals like ypu.

[Flippitythought]

@TeeJoe18 - Coming from a leftist/ progressive commenter like you, I expect that kind of reversal of words. Go ahead. Suit your own agenda. But you know in the end you'll be sorry.

[TeeJoe18]

@Flippitythought,

The only leftist i know is also a Priest Fr. Luis Jalandoni. I'm a Christian and I'm against the lies and the false teachings of the Anti Christian Catholic church.

[Flippitythought]

@TeeJoe18 - You're a wolf in sheep's clothing just like any other progressives.

[TeeJoe18]

@Flippitythought,

A Wolf in Sheep's clothing perfectly fits the profile of a child molesting Priest wouldn't you agree. Btw I'm not a Wolf I'm a Lion. So If you think I'm a Progressive then what do you consider yourself "REGRESSIVE"?

[Flippitythought]

@TeeJoe18 - You're damn arrogant to call yourself a lion. Crap.

[TeeJoe18]

@Flippitythought ,

Okay I'll just be a Tiger then. lol!

[Flippitythought]

@TeeJoe18 - You're perfect as hyena.

[TeeJoe18]

@Flippitythought,

Hyena is good. Very cooperative and intelligent. And they don't rape children like those Wolves in sheep's clothing you mentioned before. But still I consider myself a Tiger. Ready to defend the children from the ravenous Wolves.

[Flippitythought]

@TeeJoe18 - Eventually you'll discover what you really are... in the judgement seat before your Creator.

[TeeJoe18]

@Flippitythought ,

So do you and all your Pedophile Priests and Bishops. The Catholic Church has too much blood on there hands to be ignored and on judgement day the that institution shall be exposed to the whole world as the True Anti Christ Church.

[jmjknight75]

@TeeJoe18 For sure they will be accountable before the judgment day. Walang makakawala kahit sino pa. To give you a little view: Christ, the Sovereign judge will ask the Pope what he good has done to his people; bishop to his priests and priests to parishioners. Paano na lang kung sisirain pa natin ang simbahan. Sino pa ang tutulong sa atin. Anyway, gano'n talaga: the way to hell is wide and spacious and the way to heaven is narrow and thorny.

[jmjknight75]

@jmjknight75 Just for more information. Normally, the devils don't want more men to be born kasi they're very envious. Akalain mo ba naman alam nila kung ano ykaganda yong lugar na iniwanan nila, tapos ngayon magkakaroon ng chance yong mga tao na papalit sa kanila. Si satanas talaga gagawin ang lahat just to take man away from God. Just telling you the obvious..

[TeeJoe18]

@jmjknight75,

Look People who believe the Catholic Church is a Christian Church are misinformed and ignorant. There's nothing in the Catholic Church that reflects the real teaching of Christ in the Bible. Where can you find "Excommunication" in the Bible? Did Christ excommunicate Judas for his act of treachery? I don't think so. And where can you "Indulgences" is the Bible? Can you really buy your way to salvation? I don't think so. So you see the Catholic Church is an Anti Christian Church.

[ngn7]

@TeeJoe18 Sandali lang. Just a short reply on this. Do you think the devil will waste time to destroy your religion? Since the Catholic Church is the One True religion pag-aabalahan talaga ng anti-christ para maupo sa truno. Reflect on it please.

[TeeJoe18]

@ngn7,

First of all hindi na kailangan pag abalahan pa ng demonyo ang Simbahang Katoliko dahil sa kanya yun from the start. That's the reason why Catholic teaching and practices are contradictory to what was taught in the Bible and that is why they use to execute people just for owning a Bible. Now, If you think the Catholic approved systematic torture and execution of hundreds of thousands of innocent lives during the Inquisition was Christ inspired then you must me out of your mind.

[TeeJoe18]

@ngn7,

Tanong ko lang sa yo pare, Lumuluhod ka ba sa harap ng mga Graven Images? Nangungumpisal ka ba sa Pare? Nanampalataya ka ba kay Virgin Mary at ibang mga Santo? Naniniwala ka ba sa Purgatoryo at Excommunication? Kung ang sagot mo sa mga yun ay Oo then you are an Anti Christ dahil ang lahat na yun ay strictly ipinagbabawal ng Diyos and are considered mortal sins in the Bible.

[MC211982]

yes to contraceptives no to abortion. yung mga nasa simbahan hindi nila alam complications ng pagiging overpopulated. ang ating bakit ba ayaw nila aminin na hindi kaya ng gobyero tustusan lahat ng mga batang nasa lansangan? ang kinlabasan eh walang magiging magandang buhay ang mga bata na makikita sa kalye. at ang tao ay walang magandang pamumuhay, ang resulta ay krimen (ie crime, human trafficking, slow economic growth)

[montam26]

We all know the Philippines need a Reproductive Health Law! The Catholic Church need to grow up and give in for they know the country needs to depopulate! God wants His people to live a happy responsible life. Do you like to wallow in poverty because of having one kid too many?

[fhunkydelix]

Go and multiply disciples... not just multiply and multiply >.<

[jsaiso1]

Now the catholic church is threatening imminent bloodbath. We are not in the middle ages anymore. These friars grandiose image of themselves as god's chosen purveyors of divine truth is a farce. They are all full of themselves that they're all neglecting to look around and see the dire situation at hand. How can I believe these child molesters?

[jsaiso1]

This is the reason why I don't believe in god. These holier than thou idiots are the reason why the Philippines is hopelessly on its way to doom if making babies is their answer to a dismal situation. With the present economic situation in the country and the catholic churches' indifference towards blatant corruption by their favorite politicians, irresponsible over population is not the solution to cure this ailing nation.