For those that doubt, check the science. There are dozens of research studies showing LCHF (Low-Carb/High-Fat) diets being vastly superior to low-fat diets for weight-loss, glycemic control, cholesterol ratios and triglyceride levels.
There is NO evidence whatsoever after 50 years that dietary saturated fats have ANY connection to heart disease or cancer.
That is a fact.
Here's a link to many of those studies: dietdoctor(dot)com/weight-loss-time-to-stop-denying-the-science
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I went to a real food, high in natural fats diet, and lost 40lb, doubled my HDL to 80, and plummeted my trig's to below 100. Not only that, my health overall is dramatically improved - no weakling skeleton look for me, and no more of the countless small complaints from skin to itching, breathing, sunburn, poison ivy, and more.
I just hope that this message can finally start to get into the doctors surgery - if anyone is interested I'd recommend marksdailyapple as I'm not a fan of Atkins with all its processed junk food that it makes out is healthy.
I've never felt better just eating as much meat, fish, eggs, low starch veg and berries as I want - and I've dropped 36lb which is a definite bonus.
I've lost weight with HCG and part of it is removing sugars and refined foods... 11kg lost in 4 weeks. Sherrill Sellmann wrote a book and a few articles on it.
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What can I say about this presentation, other than it is ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT! I have seen a lot of myth busting videos and interviews with experts concerning fat consumption, heart disease, and cholesterol, and I have to say Dr. Diamond does one of the best jobs.
@petaccfandcspisuck Weston Pricers are correct about some things, but at the same time they're wrong about others. I applaud the Weston Price Foundation for demonizing factory farms and supporting local family farms, but at the same time they support the overconsumption of meat. And let's not forget their demonzation of soy. Organic non-GMO soy is actually good for you. This is why I support HSUS instead of WAPF. HSUS supports humane farming but doesn't resort to whackjob dietary advice.
I don't want to enter into this comment ping-pong game, amusing as it is, but would rather extend the debate. I tried low carb/high fat but it wasn't for me or I wasn't 'in the zone'. However I am now succeeding in spades with low carb AND low fat.
Now I know this is bizarre as it must be harder on food choices but the fact is I don't spend the day constantly feeling (tasting) as if I have fat instead of saliva rolling around in my mouth. It seems we're agreed that carbs are the issue and whether or not fat plays a significant part is a moot point.
13 pounds in 13 days; not hungry (albeit a little bored as it is a challenge (but not impossible) to find tasty alternatives); no adverse side effects; loads of energy (?) probably due to motivation as a result of the result.
Now low fat doesn't mean no meat, it means lean red meat (fillet steaks, chicken [no skin], turkey, lean ham, burgers from lean low fat beef [great sandwiched in a large mushroom 'bun]).
Good talk. As you mention, I have heard this before and believe it to be true. No matter where you turn it's always about the money. And they will lie, cheat and steal for it at the cost of caring less who they hurt.
@randomlarpingman - no I wouldn't. Not unless I'm missing something and your death would mean the opposite of the likes of all sheeple noise-polluters etc dying or becoming physically incapable & without means or property immediately & permanently.
@MannySteinerBIeeky Every year Americans use a staggering five hundred million pounds of toxic pesticides in and around their homes, schools, parks, and roads--a growing health risk for people and the environment.
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@randomlarpingman - how about your thelaughingarborist & prarliedogged clone channels / personas? why only be embarrassed about the markgubbish one, given those two for example are just as stupid and evil as the mark one?
@MannySteinerBIeeky When I was on a high-carb diet, the blood sugar highs and lows would cause irritability, major mood swings, and a bit of paranoia. Does that sound like anyone you know?
@MannySteinerBIeeky You may be allergic to mayo. When I eat a couple of tablespoons (30g) of mayo or butter with a meal, my heart feels fine. In the last month I've had an EKG, an echocardiogram, a cardiac stress test, and many checks of my blood pressure. My BP is low/normal and the doc tells me my heart is strong. But I already knew that. I work out with weights and run on a treadmill three days a week and weigh less than I did in college (25 years ago).
@msieweke - I'm not allergic to mayo idiot. It's known to induce heart-attacks if a lot of it consumed, for someone like me who doesn't even eat fried food etc, I can obviously tell right away how toxic something like that can be.
You're a liar, like most phoney health promoters. Your kind make real aetheric sciences difficult to get accepted by academia because they lump them in with your quackery.
@MannySteinerBleeky Much of what is "obvious" is wrong. In many studies performed over the years, eating less has proven to be a poor way to lose weight over the long term. It lowers the metabolism, which makes it even easier to put the weight back on after you return to a "normal" diet. Less than 5% keep the weight off after the diet ends. A few studies show that you can maintain weight while eating more calories on a high-fat diet than on a low-fat (high carb) diet.
@msieweke - that would depend upon whether the person has excess weight from overeating, or from eating the wrong foods, or a combination of that plus inactivity. The fact is - you eat for energy and nutrients, we can agree that it is for fuel purposes. Obviously some peoples fuels are other people's poisons. However, at the end of the day, eating a lot of fat esp. saturated is not going to ever help losing weight.
The metabolism thing - chew gum. That speeds it up.
@MannySteinerBIeeky Eating saturated fat is a great way to lose weight, as long as you limit your carbs. This is recommended by Drs. Eades and Eades (Protein Power), Dr. Atkins (many books), Dr. Lutz (Life Without Bread), and Fallon/Enig,PhD. (Eat Fat Lose Fat). Drs. Eades, Atkins, and Lutz have helped thousands lose weight on high-fat diets with lots of saturated fat. They helped me, too. Current research shows these diets are healthy and effective ways to lose weight and improve health.
@msieweke - btw just to remind you 'sugar' - you actually claimed here that drinking a half litre of water puts more strain on the heart than eating some saturated fatty foods. So since when did your kidneys and nephron tubes etc connect to your heart in such a way that cleansing those could put a strain on your heart?
@MannySteinerBleeky Fat globules don't make it into the bloodstream. Fat is digested into individual molecules and packaged into triglycerides to make it water soluble. I have about 5000g of blood. If I eat 50 grams of fat in a meal (that's a LOT), it only raises my blood volume by 1% The heart has no trouble with that. Drink a half-liter of water (500g) and you'll put a lot more stress on your heart.
@randomlarpingman - shouldn't it be right up your alley then? Nice isn't exactly a word that describes your disposition. In fact isn't it the case that given it is my baseline that you like to try to mess that up using stalking and so forth? Your not-unnice comments of yesterday nonwithstanding, well, from that one channel there. Not the others.
@MannySteinerBIeeky I suppose you're right. From now on I'll try to be nicer during our special fun time together :) Just don't mention this to my MarkGubbish persona please. I really don't want to spend another month at brokeback mountain eating beans with that retarded leprechaun of his :(
@randomlarpingman - yeah what was that all about, gay jewish cowboys and incredibly short people, kept going on about Jodie Foster movies and the name Sinclair / St Claire.
@MannySteinerBIeeky I honestly have no idea. I don't even like Jodie Foster :( I think the gay jewish cowboy thing was a reference to my bigjimw10 persona. Also it's a well-known fact people of average height are superior to short people.
@randomlarpingman - I don't think that's a well-known fact at all, how can height have anything to do with superiority. That's just silly, it's brain-power and overall ability & character that determines superiority.
@MannySteinerBleeky Check out the lecture by Chris Gardner of Stanford, "Battle of the Diets." He led a study to compare 4 different diets. The high-fat/low-carb dieters lost twice as much weight on average as the other groups, and their cardiac health indicators were the best of all the groups. The hf/lc group was allowed to eat unlimited calories.
I lost 18 lbs in 8 weeks eating 50% fat, ~1800 calories, and I've kept it off for 3 years despite going to 60% fat, ~2000 calories.
@msieweke - I'll look it up, but what you're describing sounds ridiculous - for example, high fat means obviously more fat globules in the bloodstream, and no matter how you turn that - it then makes the heart work harder in order to pump the fat-laden blood around.
These diet things all seem very illogical in terms of nutrition. As long as people listen to their bodies, and take into account the main nutritonal facts, it's fairly obvious what is good and bad for you.
More seriously, if you are fat and don't want to be - then eating a diet of high fat foods isn't going to help you slim. It just won't, not unless you only eat really really small portions of them and nothing much else.
@occulture - you haven't, quite obviously. You're saying you have cause you're a liar. You may even be so full of shit that you took a bunch of diet pills etc and pretended to have lost the weight from eating junk and high-fat food, probably in exchange for some lifetime's supply of fatfuck junk food and weight-loss pills from some drug-pushers masquerading as medicine suppliers.
The reason you had 135 lbs of fat was cause you ate fatty sugary foods.
@occulture eating the fattest meats you could forces your liver to get good at metabolizing fats, especially on a low-carb diet. Fact is, eating carbs all the time makes your liver/bile/pancreas lazy, and the metabolic pathways for fatty acid metabolism are poor = little or no fat burnt.
who woulda thought that if you can condition your body to be a fat burning machine, you will burn not only the fat you eat, but the fat you carry around... doughey!
@occulture I agree with that full hearty. My man lost weight through a strict Atkins diet plan. I didn't though. My body actually leans more and losses weight through pasta and bread meals. XD To each person its different. It's the sugar that causes most of the fat built up. It's why most fruits are taken out when one is in a low or no carb diet. For you the low or no carb way works. Anyways I just wanted to point out how I agree with you since the thumbs up currently isn't working for me.
@occulture I agree with that full hearty. My man lost weight through a strict Atkins diet plan. I didn't though. My body actually leans more and losses weight through pasta and bread meals. XD To each person its different. It's the sugar that causes most of the fat built up. It's why most fruits are taken out when one is in a low or no carb diet. For you the low or no carb way works. Anyways I just wanted to point out how I agree with you since the thumbs up currently isn't working for me.
@occulture Pay no attention to Manny. Manny is a provocateur. I believe that vegetarian/vegan diets - if properly planned out - are as healthy as animal-based diets. Just make sure that your beef and dairy comes from organic grass-fed cows, and make sure your poultry and eggs come from organic cage-free chickens. Manny is an FBI informant paid to pose as a "vegan" in order to make all vegans look like raving lunatics. They also go by other names such as CDLver and Kay7271.
@MannySteinerBIeeky Really? Because I have lost about 12 lbs over the last few weeks eating exactly that, lots of fat, no grains, very little sugar (mostly from fruit), and not small portions either. I know many people eating the same way. This has also cured my IBS and seasonal allergies.
You may want to read The Vegetarian Myth by Lierre Keith to learn more about how humans should eat. We are definitely omnivores.
BRILLIANT! One of the only other scientists that has seriously studied this subject is an inspired genius/researcher at Downstate Medical School (State University of New York) Dr. Richard D. Feinman. Why haven’t you heard of him? Simple. The drug companies are busy making sure he gets no funding. Outrageous. I am told that he has some Nutrition Study Foundation that big Pharma is busy making sure there is no publicity.
Scary to think how a small amount of irresponsible scientists (if you can call them that) could've caused so much damage to society. Think of all the people with with type 2 diabetes, weight problems and a whole host of other issues - that, for the majority, could've been avoided.. We need more seperation between science, government and corporations.
36:03... wrong!... you can see a high degree of correlation with even just total cholesterol and heart disease, the rates are quite linear upwards from about 150 total HDL/LDL (even regardless of a more accurate good to bad ratio) - for each 10 points above 150 heart disease goes up and up... just try to clog your vascular system with as much cholesterol as you can, if you stay alkalized it will never happen... go for a 70-90% occlusion of the coronary artery... atherosclerosis
27:44, thats so stupid... no relationship to fat and heart disease, but only sugar? of course its a matter of TOO MUCH FAT WHEN you are ALSO eating alot of sugar... you can eat a vegan diet with under 20% of calories from fat (more than enough) and you won't have heart disease... some push it down to 10% of calories from fat as vegans... 29:09... retarded... reduce sugar and fat... the point is who is going to do a caloric restriction diet, thats the key - some say 30% below the USA average
12:25 WRONG! go from cholesterol laden diet to ZERO cholesterol diet and your "bad" cholesterol will drop... just add some carbs to all that animal food and your cholesterol will go up... so you MUST assume a standard american diet and specify the dynamic of your diet, otherwise these simplistic stupid statements are no better than what he THINKS he is debunking... 15:00... more stupid simplistics, at least he follows it with cut out carbs, and you can do this in reverse and get better results
@glorp896 - WRONG. First of all, half the cholesterol you eat goes out with the stool, never digested. Even a diet supervised by a doctor will reduce values 10-15% at most- not enough for important change.
" [s]implistic stupid statements" that fail to account for the liver's damnable production of bad cholesterol (genes) are pointless.
@orgamikrikit i guess you need to read JOHN McDougall AND HIS WORK - how many doctors would even suggest someone become a vegan or even a raw food vegan?!... THATS what gets results... my cholesterol as a vegan has always been below 150, way below actually... 6 or so blood tests... of course we are stuck with 500 characters as to simplistic statements and dealing with organic chem, but go on, do your homework - cholesterol will drop like a rock on these diets... dean ornish as well...
@glorp896 -I've done my homework; human history has little in the way of a fashionable vegan diet; there is no scientific evidence that this is what humans should be, or have been eating. This has nothing to do with organic chemistry; it has to do with the fact that all evidence points to meat eating by humans and their precessesors, neadertals- for millions of years. In fact, they evolved into humans because of it. But if veganism works for you, by all means, stay with it...
@orgamikrikit thats not true at all, most of eating for a long time was vegan - animal husbandry came late in human history - gatherers/hunters gathered a hell of a lot versus hunting... hunting fruit on trees is FAR easier and when we started growing grains we became far more vegan... even since WWII our meat eating has gone way up... there is PLENTY of scientific info that vegans are far superior to meat eaters... i've seen the date many times over... nothing to do with organic chem? crazy!
@glorp896 "there is PLENTY of scientific info that vegans are far superior to meat eaters..."
LOL, no there is not. I'll take sports as an example. The extreme vast majority of elite level athletes incorporate meat into their diet. For anything thats strength or power related, it's even increased to where animal related foods will be the majority of calories.
@Jynus13 u r quite silly and need to do your homework... the extreme vast majority of humans (if we r to be american exclusive at least) incorporate meat into their diet... so its like a few percent if even competing with 98%+ i would guess, hardly a fair comparison... u need to learn about the PROTEIN MYTH - MEAT STRONG, PROTEIN UGH!, give me your best caveman grunt... its so stupid... my own experience is NOT to run on meat, but raw foods... some vegan weight lifters have won contests...
@Jynus13 "Four members of UPROAR recently participated in the International Powerlifting Federation competition. In their words "It was a successful day where ignorant opinions about veganism such as 'you can't be strong without eating meat and other animal products' were put to shame."
Between the four of them, they won three 1st place spots, and one 2nd, in their respective weight categories. A member named Noah also took home the "best lifter" trophy" - would you like more examples? HAHAHA
@Jynus13 a quote i found: "when you consider that only around 0.5% (although this figure may be higher) of the world population is vegan, and say 1% of those vegans (as an example) choose to become athletes, they are outnumbered by non-vegans on a massive scale. If 50% of the world population were vegan and 5% of those were into competitive sports and that tallied with 5% of non-vegans competing in sports, then obviously, we would have more of a balance." from bestveganguidedotcom
@Jynus13 Jane Black has set numerous Master's National and World records in weightlifting, and in the process has shattered the stereotype of the "frail vegan." i can give you a link for a list of vegan winners, beating out a MUCH larger group of meatheads...
@glorp896 "If 50% of the world population were vegan [...] then obviously, we would have more of a balance."
Not necessarily, because the average person doesn't have the same incentive to fine-tune his diet for performance that an athlete does. Even if 99% of people were vegan, why would that necessarily be reflected in the competitive athletic world? Some 99% of people don't physically train very much. Do you think that's also necessarily reflected in the world of competitive athletics?
Black says vegan diets cause obesity: vrg. org/journal/vj2000jan/2000janjaneblack. htm "If you are going for [...] low body fat, a vegan diet will have its drawbacks"
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...And apparently there's a good reason no one has ever heard of Jane Black: "Since the official weight categories have been changed a couple of times, the world records I hold can never be broken [...] Her personal record competitive lifts are a 65 kilo (143 lb.) snatch"
@hitssquad haha! good stuff, black shows vegan aint perfect and the records don't even really matter anyway... oh well, at least i still proved my point... you can be a high functioning athlete in a number of ways - fruitarian arnstein, coca cola drinking ann trason, THE ULTIMATE MEAL (me), or the INUIT? hmmm, still waiting for that INUIT olympian...
@hitssquad not necessarily? of course, thats the whole point... that vegans are such a small minority its not as fair a comparison... now shall we compare 100 vegan athletes with 100 meat head athletes? and of course 1 year vegan, 1 year meathead comparisons for the same person would be best... i've seen some the animal product consumers that run long distance and they cut back alot! they are not having a bunch of meat like the Inuit... but i guess weight lifters can eat lots of meat and...
@orgam who wants to live like the INUIT?!, sure its happened and is, but certainly there is a dynamic of dietary ability and homeostasis in a broad range of diets among humans, because certainly we have had our extremes and variation over the long haul in history - this is why some people focus on adaptations of diets in their heritage and what they are used to - like me and being so irish (potatoes and oats... etc... but even so we can adapt, to a vegan diet no less! but to be like the INUIT?
@orgamikrikit i guess you really need to read the vegan propaganda, i've plugged one vegan pop doc; you can also read JOHN ROBBINS "Diet for a New America", or Neal Barnard... just google vegan... i'm a vegan by the odds of it, i would gladly eat hoards of big macs if i thought it was good for me, but i remember the UGH! feeling the last time i did this (20++ years ago!... your stomach feels better on a vegan diet vs. meat and mucus forming foods, like the liquid meat people call MILK...
@orgamikrikit sure its true that calorically dense food is important for survival in the wild on and off, i wouldn't pass it up if that were the case, like some mountain man situation, but we don't need to be hunter/gatherers any more... some people yes, in pockets around the globe - so our evolutionary situation is still with us, we simply are not used to abundance yet, and YET we still live longer and longer despite getting fatter and fatter... i've read the intersect will come soon, reversal
@hits as per your message: that 12 pounds per day needed for gathering? thats just crazy? what were the plants? lettuce? - i remember seeing 4000 calories per day for slaves in the antebellum south working all day... Dean Karnazes is an ultramarathoner whose most recent exploit was to run 50 marathons in 50 consecutive states in 50 consecutive days (his upper limit was about 9000 calories burned per day... so what is this gathering food that requires 12 pounds for even ONLY 4000 calories
@hitssquad lettuce: 4 calories per oz times 16 ounces= 64 calories times 12 pounds = 768 calories... yep, you better find some better GATHERING! Human Chorionic Gonadotropin, hcgweightlossdietsDOTcom: When on hCG diet the 500 calorie diet is the maximum amount of calories your body is to take in order for the human chorionic gonadotropin to function within your body.
If you fail this 500 calorie per day restriction you put at great risk of your daily average weight loss (1lb) at risk...
@orgamikrikit of course i should have spelled it DATA and not date... but dates are good... and vegan... vegans have much lower rates of heart disease and cancer, the top two killers... what more do you need to see? go on down the list of the CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL top killers... vegans survive longer, thats why i do it... my main reason...
@glorp896 "vegans have much lower rates of heart disease and cancer"
Filter out the confounding variables, and offer a plausible explanation both for why heart-disease and cancer are absent in meat-eating populations and for why we should expect meat to cause heart disease or cancer given that -- unlike all plant foods except avocado coconut oil -- it contains little of the glucose needed for both those diseases and doesn't spike the insulin needed for both those diseases, and maybe serious
It might also help if you would explain this (Lierre Keith, The Vegetarian Myth): "Compared to the average US American, Seventh-Day Adventists have lower rates of “hypertension, diabetes, arthritis, colon cancer, prostate cancer, fatal CHD in males, and death from all causes.”295
Because Seventh-Day Adventists are supposed to refrain from meat, politicized vegetarians have raised these numbers as a battle cry. But comparing Seventh-Day Adventists to the
"average US American is absurd, because they are also forbidden to drink alcohol and coffee and they aren’t allowed to smoke. They eat substantially more fresh food and substantially fewer doughnuts. Of course they’re healthier. If you want to claim that their health is a function of their vegetarian diets, you need to find a cohort to compare them to: a group of people whose diet and lifestyle match that of the Seventh-Day Adventists except for meat. Guess what? Those people exist. They're
"called Mormons. Mormons also abstain from alcohol, coffee, smoking, and lots of the generalized junk of SAD. But they eat meat. Guess who lives longer? Surely you’ve guessed the punchline: Mormons.296"
@hits mormons are why utah has repeatedly ranked very high in states as to health... vermont as well i believe (one of the whitest states of the three most white - hey, i like to be racial sometimes... and blacks and hispanics have crappier health than whites. i've heard mormons don't eat that much meat... less than the average american... book of mormon scripture recommends eating meat \"only in times of winter or famine\", eating plenty of grains and herbs, and fruits, yet not a commandment
@hitssquad i've thought this and heard it before, i just say: great, eat like a vegan and follow the rest of their lifestyle as well... not many vegans smoke, do drugs and booze... but some do... yet of course they are far more likely to brush up on ideal health in many ways... staying away from refined sugar foods, eating whole grains, eating fresh, local, etc... exercise, etc... but i've seen some data that includes SEDENTARY vegans in with the data and still out do meat/sugarheads...
@hits i actually ordered their rather technical and detailed literature MANY years ago as to diet... some good hard science stuff... not sure if i have it anymore... i was impressed... circa 1987 - talking about the SEVEN DAY gang... Of the 34192 participants, all members of the Seventh-day Adventist church: 29 percent were vegetarian, while 7-10 percent of the vegetarians were vegan - so not a good comparison with mormons... and crunch the numbers and see well under 5% are vegans - under 3%?
@glorp896 "yet of course they are far more likely to brush up on ideal health in many ways... staying away from refined sugar foods"
...As detailed here: gnolls. org/tag/vegetarians-eat-meat "The data is clear: in America, ‘vegetarian’ doesn’t mean “I don’t eat animals.” It means “I am trying to eat a healthy diet according to the recommendations of our government, the ADA, and my doctor or nutritionist.”"
@hitssquad i was thinking of the glycemic index and its effect... surely you abide by this, its a great argument against so many carbs... even white flour pasta is recommended to be cooked AL DENTE and that helps with the volatility of sugar insulin ups and downs...
@hitssquad so hitster, whatdaya think of the new food plate? - no more 4 food groups, then no more pyramid and now a new thing to debunk and alter? hey, at least they deemphasized the liquid meat we like to call milk, but it bothers me that it makes it look like a glass of milk to the upper right of your plate... these silly constructs are gov't guidelines based on what? lobbying, the zeitgeist and milieu of the time, health trends?... Maybe you can send them an INUIT version? LOL
"Fat Head: And if they do that, they’ll end up as lean as people were back in the 1940s, when the USDA recommended just one serving of grains per day, along with three or four glasses of whole milk and plenty of butter?
USDA: Right, because— uh … you know, you really shouldn’t go around banging your head on solid objects like that."
@orgamikrikit - that seems to be the case, but the physiology of the human body is what doesn't support a meat-eating diet for a variety of reasons. Humans don't have teeth like carnivores, except for 4 canines - out of 28 -32 teeth. Carnivores tend to have more teeth that are all sharp like incisors.
That more suggests that humans are equipped to tear meat but it isn't intended to be a main dietary source.
Also the colons of carnivores are shorter than humans.
@MannySteinerBIeeky - Animals use their teeth to affect a kill; and they chew very little before swallowing; and real carnivores eat mostly meat. Humans ate what they could get; as they were scavengers. So a longer colon and the meat thing seems a tenuous correlation at best. Humans use weapons (via their hands) to kill. Then they usually cook the meat. In other words, humans have a diverse diet- animals dont. So humans can tear meat and eat and grind other things, then swallow.
I personally believe cows have eating right. they can eat the most inedible food and grow massively. The answer is and has always been microbes. But pound for pound, meat is the quickest/easiest food. But microbial protein and fatty acids has got to be the best.
@ParapaDrifter - problem there being that cows are ruminants with four stomachs. Gorillas however - do show that being a fruitarian certainly doesn't mean you can't be big and muscley. Certainly, there's much to learn about how animals convert eating & not huge amounts of exercise, into lean muscle mass and strength. Except of course - animals kept in cages / factory-farmed, as pets etc. If they are overfed they like humans merely get fat. Due to the un-natural types of food mainly.
@ParapaDrifter - well our own natural gut bacteria of course are important in healthy digestion, and those can be replaced by the yoghurts that contain those cultures etc.
Are you talking about things like sauerkraut when you say 'culturing microbes'?
This all sounds to me like it comes from the same place as the likes of denial that man-made things contribute greatly to climate-change, in that some people seem to ignore all science purely on the basis that some is lacking.
@ParapaDrifter - with a cow, one reason they have the digestion system they do is because it's required to break down cellulose in grasses they eat, for example.
I'm not clear on what you're saying we should copy about them - cause to copy that would mean the equivalent of our eating food that is already partially digested. Which isn't natural, ie our bodies won't have the genetic memory of working with that. People ate as paleo diets suggested, to give energy stores and of course nutrients.
@ParapaDrifter - in terms of raw or cooked meat, kind of a toss-up between real dates of when fire became controllable & weapons or traps were invented. It's also possible that a kinship may have been exploited or used sustainably. How would anyone have considered heating of any foods, unless they first noticed via natural fires that the taste was palatable. Problem with any heating is that it destroys enzymes and often destroys vitamins and minerals too. However in some cases it converts things
@MannySteinerBIeeky Good call. I feel there is some disinformation surrounding early humans eating cooked meat. sun dried meat may have been the first adulteration/preservation of meat.. like pemmican.
Still, the work of Aajonus Vonderplanitz is too enticing to glaze over because of a raw food stigma. I'm a raw foodist, certainly. But fermentation of our food.. well... there it is again. I'm still trying to "replicate the rumen"
lol at the food pyramid, and the 'my plate' - lets make our own?
@orgamikrikit This may sound knit-picky but just to inform....Neandertals and cromagnons(modern humans) existed at the same time. They are two different branches of the human tree. There were possibly other branches that also existed at the same time as both of these. Neandertals simply died out(or were assimilated) leaving only the modern humans around 30,000 years ago.
That bit aside, I agree that humans evolved based on a diet high in meat, eggs, fruits, nuts and veggies.
@orgamikrikit Not true throughout the whole world. That may not have been the case in other parts of the world. But here in india, vegetarianism has been part of life and society since antiquity. It is part of culture and religion. Things are changing now because of importing western culture. The religions that originated here, such as hinduism, buddhism and jainism are strictly vegetarian.
@orgamikrikit u remind me of a body chemist's education that he now figures is wrong, he was taught you need to ingest about 20% of your cholesterol, as the body makes the other 80% it needs. this whole range is in flux and hardly something you can pin point in the dynamic case of organic chem, so its a NONSENSE MEANINGLESS stat, just as RECOMMENDED DAILY ALLOWANCES are MEANINGLESS (as was said by a doctor at the HEALTH SHOW in disney... went to the first two annual shows... think dynamic flux
@orgamik check out any blood panel listed ranges for all the usual markers of health - trigs, albumin, etc... the ranges are WILD and even if you are high or low they rarely do anything except monitor it... you'd think if they are even going to test for these ranges that high/low would mean something for any and all of these indicators, yet they ignore so much of it - we really don't know what is ideal for a day, a week, a year or from hour to hour... the quantitative analysis is QUITE WANTING
Thank you for putting out this video! I can not say that the notion of a low-fat diet being the right way to lose weight is new to me, however the way Diamond has presented this topic in his presentation here was VERY beneficial to me as a non-specialist in a way that he has provided actual proof to his statements and everything. I really found this truly educational and motivating for myself, even though I am far from being obese, yet I have gained unwanted weight in the last year or so.
9:10... LOL, 9:24 LOL, its all a matter of balance - you can't have too much of everything at the same time, but you can load up on carbs if you cut fat and vice versa (drop carbs and eat more fat... i don't know of a benefit of excessive protein - the PROTEIN MYTH has largely attributed no benefit..., but you can get away with loads of carbs and fat, IF not at the same time... protein loss in minimal, daily requirements aren't that much - ketosis, etc... too much of anything doesn't work
i keep wanting to eat some chocolate chip cookies... MUST FIGHT SATAN!, will put this off for awhile... i prefer the work of the DIAMONDS in their book "Fit for Life" - I don't like the work of Jared Diamond in his GUNS, GERMS AND STEEL book but i do like the work of JARED TAYLOR
This should be compulsory viewing for everyone, in order to vastly improve the health of many populations.Excellently explained and presented and now, instead of trying to convince my contacts of these facts without this resource,which I have been trying to do for some years now, I can pass on this URL! THANK YOU!
Ask any cardiologist what % of their "heart attack" patients have low cholesterol and if they are honest, they will say about 50%. In other words - cholesterol can't be the problem. in fact, it's the body's solution to help heal. much like the function of white blood cells during an infection - cholesterol comes to the rescue. dr diamond did what 90% of americans will not do - he made a lifestyle change to go after the cause rather than a silver bullet drug. this is the only way to cure
@groovin25 if you become too acidic your body "worries" about acidic blood boring holes through the vascular tissue and as such cholesterol can work like FIX A FLAT and it helps seal the inner surface where the blood flows, but you do not want to be in an acidic state where this is necessary - to become alkaline you can do this perfectly eating a raw food diet, and the cholesterol build up with go away - so you could blame acidic PH in your blood while cholesterol is symptomatic of imbalance...
@olifante low cholesterol vegans and raw fooders have MUCH lower cancer rates... its all how you line up your variables and correlates... cholesterol is really like VITAMIN K, you don't need to eat any of it...
Great video. Wish I could have seen more of the slides, and wish I could have heard the Q&A. It was an interesting lecture to present during a dinner, as you heard the cutlery clinking. I wonder how much it affected the audience's enjoyment of their meal? Not that it would have mine, as I have been low carb since 2006.
Excellent video!!! All you have to do is look at old photos from the 40's,50's,and 60's and note how the people were all thin. This is when they ate more fat,butter and eggs and the milk was delivered with all it's fat. Now you can hardly find whole milk only soy,almond,coconut,non fat. The food and nutrition industry has created a monster that won't go away!!
First class video, been following these myths for some time, since the doctor tried to get me on statins. Sad part is how the US health establishment still chooses to ignore the science, they have blood on their hands.
@ZoeHarcombe too much of anything is evil, you can OD on water, people have drank themselves to death on water - once on a radio show live, stupid morons didn't know about it and once for a college hazing, again, they didn't know it could kill their prospect... but i guess you can eat all the meat you want IF THATS ABOUT ALL YOU EAT, like the INUIT, who wants that!? and you often lose too much water weight in these diets, as Atkins warns you need to drink more water to lose the proper weight
@hitssquad you can read it right in there in ATKINS book, he knows thats a problem with the meat/veggie diet - so he wants to make sure people are not losing too much water weight, which is what can happen on this diet, NOT what you want to do... so part of the program is to be committed to drinking more water, and they tell you about how much... thats hardly something Arnstein needs to worry about, unless he is running that day! as to technical details of why this happens? read up on it...
@glorp896 "you can read it right in there in ATKINS book"
You're referring to this?: "Although their bodies would almost certainly adjust during the second week, there isn't any good reason for feeling washed out and sickly for even one day. After the symptoms abate, go back to the lower level of carb intake."
You equated that with the notion that anyone would die of dehydration if they ate no sugar?
@hitssquad i most certainly did not good sir, no equivalent implied or given, but you DO lose water weight in these kinds of diets if you don't start drinking more than you usually would, and thats not the weight you really want to lose, you wanna lose the fat... but your rather extreme charge on my dietary rep would help lend credence to a carbo fruitarian that has a far better chance of staying hydrated during his long runs... but maybe SEARS zoney book is more explicit in this water thing.(?)
@hitssquad i have confused the two having read much of both around the same time, they are both similar and Sears kind of tagged along the tail of Atkins as Atkins was having a revival, having made his meaty-veggie points long ago with a concomitant failure in the past as well... i don't like either extreme - Inuit-Arnstein-Freelee (Freelea, banana girl), etc... so even as a vegan i've found myself stuck with needing a balance more in favor of consuming less fat, which is atypical minus animal
You were asked for clarification. You refused to clarify. What does it mean to "lose too much water weight"? Does it mean to instantly drop dead? That's all we can assume, since you refused to clarify.
@hitssquad sure, try the Inuit diet while running long distance... of course you would have to add alot of water, as long as you are eating fruit you get tons of water... not so hard to understand is it?
@hitsoh i'll be more technical, semi-dehydrated? i don't know a scale of dehydration, i do know that if you lose 5% of your body weight, almost entirely water, when you are running these ultramarathon races and you are at a weigh station, as they must all do several times during these races (a few times at least), you are OUT OF THE RACE... sorry for crappy sentence structure... not redoing it... and PLEASE feel free to debunk the water doctor: Dr. F. Batmanghelidj, now THATS an easy med plan!
@glorp896 "as long as you are eating fruit you get tons of water"
Dates?: thefruitarian. com "I had a good stock of fresh dates with me, and that was going to be my primary option for calories. [...] 6lbs of dates" "I know I have to eat, eat, eat! I know I can rebound and finish in the mid 14 hour range if I just get the calories in. Experience goes a long long way in these races. I force a lot of dates over the next hour even though eating anything is repulsive."
@hitssquad calorically dense no doubt... and there is the issue of HOLDING IT DOWN with these runners... i almost always had to time my bowels movements... its weird as well, its like your bowel knows its going for a long UP AND DOWN jolt during a run making you QUITE REGULAR on a faster timescale... and you will have to go to the bathroom ONLY because you were getting ready to run a long time as opposed to sedentary lifestyles and staying full of poop... interesting effect...
@hitssquad there is also the adaptation of not feeling hungry when you REALLY ARE AND NEED IT, he mentions this in his running... so i timed my eating, bathroom visit and hydration all, throughout the day as a long distance runner... when you really become good at it, your whole day is a thinking process on and off to schedule your run, which in my case was two runs a day for awhile... 40+ miles per week - long distance running for me only lasted 1.5 years or so (minimum is 5 fives, 25 miles/wk
For those that doubt, check the science. There are dozens of research studies showing LCHF (Low-Carb/High-Fat) diets being vastly superior to low-fat diets for weight-loss, glycemic control, cholesterol ratios and triglyceride levels.
There is NO evidence whatsoever after 50 years that dietary saturated fats have ANY connection to heart disease or cancer.
That is a fact.
Here's a link to many of those studies: dietdoctor(dot)com/weight-loss-time-to-stop-denying-the-science
LCHFinCanada 2 weeks ago
This is beautiful. This information will someday go mainstream. I know it
athletichunta 2 weeks ago
This needs to be broadcast on tv 24/7
athletichunta 2 weeks ago
Let's start a revolution! Google Peter Attia and Gary Taubes to find out why you're getting fat, and how to change it.
joehenrydotnet 4 weeks ago
I'm so pissed right now.
Tynen 1 month ago
Mr. Diamond sounds credible enough for me to try out a new eating habit. I will come back & express my personal results. Thank you.
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TrumpetCallofGodLT 2 months ago
im scared to become fat or worst obese.
superbelle79 3 months ago
I went to a real food, high in natural fats diet, and lost 40lb, doubled my HDL to 80, and plummeted my trig's to below 100. Not only that, my health overall is dramatically improved - no weakling skeleton look for me, and no more of the countless small complaints from skin to itching, breathing, sunburn, poison ivy, and more.
jhssuthrnmama 3 months ago 8
I forgot to mention, this was done with no hunger, and no exercise (due to complications in my life), either.
jhssuthrnmama 3 months ago
I just hope that this message can finally start to get into the doctors surgery - if anyone is interested I'd recommend marksdailyapple as I'm not a fan of Atkins with all its processed junk food that it makes out is healthy.
I've never felt better just eating as much meat, fish, eggs, low starch veg and berries as I want - and I've dropped 36lb which is a definite bonus.
Solldara 3 months ago
I've lost weight with HCG and part of it is removing sugars and refined foods... 11kg lost in 4 weeks. Sherrill Sellmann wrote a book and a few articles on it.
jonnoshore 3 months ago
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flany1960 3 months ago
I've known people who didn't have much success with the Atkins diet. In the case of my sister I know she wasn't cheating
zacthebold 4 months ago
What can I say about this presentation, other than it is ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT! I have seen a lot of myth busting videos and interviews with experts concerning fat consumption, heart disease, and cholesterol, and I have to say Dr. Diamond does one of the best jobs.
alphacause 4 months ago 2
I presume all this is valid for the Dukan diet too?
aikighost 4 months ago
I just knew all the anti-Weston Price dimwits would troll on here with their lies and disinformation.
petaccfandcspisuck 5 months ago
@petaccfandcspisuck Weston Pricers are correct about some things, but at the same time they're wrong about others. I applaud the Weston Price Foundation for demonizing factory farms and supporting local family farms, but at the same time they support the overconsumption of meat. And let's not forget their demonzation of soy. Organic non-GMO soy is actually good for you. This is why I support HSUS instead of WAPF. HSUS supports humane farming but doesn't resort to whackjob dietary advice.
barrybear2011 3 months ago
@barrybear2011 Organic, fermented, non-GMO soy used in the traditional way as a condiment is good for you, and the WPF says that.
Ask yourself how the human race thrived for hundreds of millennia if meat should be strictly limited?
jhssuthrnmama 3 months ago
Referencing this video for a research project dealing with how vegan fad did not work for me.
SuperBetty213 5 months ago 2
wonder what they were eating while he was talking?! great video btw
superkorad 6 months ago 3
MervynDG POat part 1:
I don't want to enter into this comment ping-pong game, amusing as it is, but would rather extend the debate. I tried low carb/high fat but it wasn't for me or I wasn't 'in the zone'. However I am now succeeding in spades with low carb AND low fat.
MervynDG 6 months ago
MervynDG Post part 2:
Now I know this is bizarre as it must be harder on food choices but the fact is I don't spend the day constantly feeling (tasting) as if I have fat instead of saliva rolling around in my mouth. It seems we're agreed that carbs are the issue and whether or not fat plays a significant part is a moot point.
MervynDG 6 months ago
MervynDG Post part 3:
13 pounds in 13 days; not hungry (albeit a little bored as it is a challenge (but not impossible) to find tasty alternatives); no adverse side effects; loads of energy (?) probably due to motivation as a result of the result.
Now low fat doesn't mean no meat, it means lean red meat (fillet steaks, chicken [no skin], turkey, lean ham, burgers from lean low fat beef [great sandwiched in a large mushroom 'bun]).
MervynDG 6 months ago
Could you be emotionally detached at work and not know it? Sure, if you’re detached. There’s a party in your head and you’re not invited. slapCompany
slapcompany 7 months ago
Good talk. As you mention, I have heard this before and believe it to be true. No matter where you turn it's always about the money. And they will lie, cheat and steal for it at the cost of caring less who they hurt.
This is a very true point.
NewMusArt 7 months ago
i dropped 70 lbs on atkins and stupified my doctor also. he has gone to atkins himself and lost a pile of weight.
jleebesaw 7 months ago 21
@randomlarpingman - yeah maybe change your diet might be a good idea, eat orgone instead of dead-orgone...
MannySteinerBIeeky 8 months ago
@MannySteinerBIeeky Yeah, problem is that would very likely kill me. Though I guess you wouldn't exactly consider that to be a problem.
randomlarpingman 8 months ago
@randomlarpingman - no I wouldn't. Not unless I'm missing something and your death would mean the opposite of the likes of all sheeple noise-polluters etc dying or becoming physically incapable & without means or property immediately & permanently.
MannySteinerBIeeky 8 months ago
@MannySteinerBIeeky Every year Americans use a staggering five hundred million pounds of toxic pesticides in and around their homes, schools, parks, and roads--a growing health risk for people and the environment.
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@randomlarpingman - how about your thelaughingarborist & prarliedogged clone channels / personas? why only be embarrassed about the markgubbish one, given those two for example are just as stupid and evil as the mark one?
MannySteinerBIeeky 8 months ago
@MannySteinerBIeeky When I was on a high-carb diet, the blood sugar highs and lows would cause irritability, major mood swings, and a bit of paranoia. Does that sound like anyone you know?
msieweke 8 months ago 3
@MannySteinerBIeeky You may be allergic to mayo. When I eat a couple of tablespoons (30g) of mayo or butter with a meal, my heart feels fine. In the last month I've had an EKG, an echocardiogram, a cardiac stress test, and many checks of my blood pressure. My BP is low/normal and the doc tells me my heart is strong. But I already knew that. I work out with weights and run on a treadmill three days a week and weigh less than I did in college (25 years ago).
msieweke 8 months ago
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@msieweke - I'm not allergic to mayo idiot. It's known to induce heart-attacks if a lot of it consumed, for someone like me who doesn't even eat fried food etc, I can obviously tell right away how toxic something like that can be.
You're a liar, like most phoney health promoters. Your kind make real aetheric sciences difficult to get accepted by academia because they lump them in with your quackery.
MannySteinerBIeeky 8 months ago
@MannySteinerBleeky Much of what is "obvious" is wrong. In many studies performed over the years, eating less has proven to be a poor way to lose weight over the long term. It lowers the metabolism, which makes it even easier to put the weight back on after you return to a "normal" diet. Less than 5% keep the weight off after the diet ends. A few studies show that you can maintain weight while eating more calories on a high-fat diet than on a low-fat (high carb) diet.
msieweke 8 months ago
@msieweke - that would depend upon whether the person has excess weight from overeating, or from eating the wrong foods, or a combination of that plus inactivity. The fact is - you eat for energy and nutrients, we can agree that it is for fuel purposes. Obviously some peoples fuels are other people's poisons. However, at the end of the day, eating a lot of fat esp. saturated is not going to ever help losing weight.
The metabolism thing - chew gum. That speeds it up.
MannySteinerBIeeky 8 months ago
@MannySteinerBIeeky Eating saturated fat is a great way to lose weight, as long as you limit your carbs. This is recommended by Drs. Eades and Eades (Protein Power), Dr. Atkins (many books), Dr. Lutz (Life Without Bread), and Fallon/Enig,PhD. (Eat Fat Lose Fat). Drs. Eades, Atkins, and Lutz have helped thousands lose weight on high-fat diets with lots of saturated fat. They helped me, too. Current research shows these diets are healthy and effective ways to lose weight and improve health.
msieweke 8 months ago
@msieweke - what's your conspiracies next fake fad diet going to turn out to be? Actually contracting AIDS as a means to rapid weight loss?
MannySteinerBIeeky 8 months ago
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@msieweke - btw just to remind you 'sugar' - you actually claimed here that drinking a half litre of water puts more strain on the heart than eating some saturated fatty foods. So since when did your kidneys and nephron tubes etc connect to your heart in such a way that cleansing those could put a strain on your heart?
MannySteinerBIeeky 8 months ago
@MannySteinerBleeky Fat globules don't make it into the bloodstream. Fat is digested into individual molecules and packaged into triglycerides to make it water soluble. I have about 5000g of blood. If I eat 50 grams of fat in a meal (that's a LOT), it only raises my blood volume by 1% The heart has no trouble with that. Drink a half-liter of water (500g) and you'll put a lot more stress on your heart.
msieweke 8 months ago
@MannySteinerBIeeky That's not very nice, Clara.
randomlarpingman 8 months ago
@randomlarpingman - shouldn't it be right up your alley then? Nice isn't exactly a word that describes your disposition. In fact isn't it the case that given it is my baseline that you like to try to mess that up using stalking and so forth? Your not-unnice comments of yesterday nonwithstanding, well, from that one channel there. Not the others.
MannySteinerBIeeky 8 months ago
@MannySteinerBIeeky I suppose you're right. From now on I'll try to be nicer during our special fun time together :) Just don't mention this to my MarkGubbish persona please. I really don't want to spend another month at brokeback mountain eating beans with that retarded leprechaun of his :(
randomlarpingman 8 months ago
@randomlarpingman - yeah what was that all about, gay jewish cowboys and incredibly short people, kept going on about Jodie Foster movies and the name Sinclair / St Claire.
MannySteinerBIeeky 8 months ago
@MannySteinerBIeeky I honestly have no idea. I don't even like Jodie Foster :( I think the gay jewish cowboy thing was a reference to my bigjimw10 persona. Also it's a well-known fact people of average height are superior to short people.
randomlarpingman 8 months ago
@randomlarpingman - I don't think that's a well-known fact at all, how can height have anything to do with superiority. That's just silly, it's brain-power and overall ability & character that determines superiority.
MannySteinerBIeeky 8 months ago
@MannySteinerBIeeky Oh ok.
randomlarpingman 8 months ago
The silverware clanking is really obnoxious. Good speech otherwise.
dirtyharrydi 8 months ago
@MannySteinerBleeky Check out the lecture by Chris Gardner of Stanford, "Battle of the Diets." He led a study to compare 4 different diets. The high-fat/low-carb dieters lost twice as much weight on average as the other groups, and their cardiac health indicators were the best of all the groups. The hf/lc group was allowed to eat unlimited calories.
I lost 18 lbs in 8 weeks eating 50% fat, ~1800 calories, and I've kept it off for 3 years despite going to 60% fat, ~2000 calories.
msieweke 8 months ago
@msieweke - I'll look it up, but what you're describing sounds ridiculous - for example, high fat means obviously more fat globules in the bloodstream, and no matter how you turn that - it then makes the heart work harder in order to pump the fat-laden blood around.
These diet things all seem very illogical in terms of nutrition. As long as people listen to their bodies, and take into account the main nutritonal facts, it's fairly obvious what is good and bad for you.
MannySteinerBIeeky 8 months ago
Wish the video had caught more of the slides. The Fat Head documentary has much the same information, but in a more entertaining format.
Againstthegrainblog 8 months ago
Amazing video. Definitely making me rethink my diet. Thank you Doctor.
@Againstthegrainblog You can download the pdf with the slides in the link below the video.
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heylucyloo 8 months ago
More seriously, if you are fat and don't want to be - then eating a diet of high fat foods isn't going to help you slim. It just won't, not unless you only eat really really small portions of them and nothing much else.
MannySteinerBIeeky 8 months ago
@MannySteinerBIeeky So then how have I lost 135 pounds eating just the fattiest meats I can find?
occulture 8 months ago 36
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@occulture - you haven't, quite obviously. You're saying you have cause you're a liar. You may even be so full of shit that you took a bunch of diet pills etc and pretended to have lost the weight from eating junk and high-fat food, probably in exchange for some lifetime's supply of fatfuck junk food and weight-loss pills from some drug-pushers masquerading as medicine suppliers.
The reason you had 135 lbs of fat was cause you ate fatty sugary foods.
MannySteinerBIeeky 8 months ago
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@occulture - why did your fatfuck liar comment from a week ago just re-appear in my inbox or on display here now again anyway?
MannySteinerBIeeky 8 months ago
@occulture eating the fattest meats you could forces your liver to get good at metabolizing fats, especially on a low-carb diet. Fact is, eating carbs all the time makes your liver/bile/pancreas lazy, and the metabolic pathways for fatty acid metabolism are poor = little or no fat burnt.
who woulda thought that if you can condition your body to be a fat burning machine, you will burn not only the fat you eat, but the fat you carry around... doughey!
ParapaDrifter 8 months ago 3
@occulture I agree with that full hearty. My man lost weight through a strict Atkins diet plan. I didn't though. My body actually leans more and losses weight through pasta and bread meals. XD To each person its different. It's the sugar that causes most of the fat built up. It's why most fruits are taken out when one is in a low or no carb diet. For you the low or no carb way works. Anyways I just wanted to point out how I agree with you since the thumbs up currently isn't working for me.
LadyBludgeon 5 months ago
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@occulture I agree with that full hearty. My man lost weight through a strict Atkins diet plan. I didn't though. My body actually leans more and losses weight through pasta and bread meals. XD To each person its different. It's the sugar that causes most of the fat built up. It's why most fruits are taken out when one is in a low or no carb diet. For you the low or no carb way works. Anyways I just wanted to point out how I agree with you since the thumbs up currently isn't working for me.
LadyBludgeon 5 months ago
@occulture Pay no attention to Manny. Manny is a provocateur. I believe that vegetarian/vegan diets - if properly planned out - are as healthy as animal-based diets. Just make sure that your beef and dairy comes from organic grass-fed cows, and make sure your poultry and eggs come from organic cage-free chickens. Manny is an FBI informant paid to pose as a "vegan" in order to make all vegans look like raving lunatics. They also go by other names such as CDLver and Kay7271.
barrybear2011 3 months ago
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@occulture - you haven't you fat serial-killer cunt.
NW0arescum 2 weeks ago
@MannySteinerBIeeky Really? Because I have lost about 12 lbs over the last few weeks eating exactly that, lots of fat, no grains, very little sugar (mostly from fruit), and not small portions either. I know many people eating the same way. This has also cured my IBS and seasonal allergies.
You may want to read The Vegetarian Myth by Lierre Keith to learn more about how humans should eat. We are definitely omnivores.
heylucyloo 8 months ago
BRILLIANT! One of the only other scientists that has seriously studied this subject is an inspired genius/researcher at Downstate Medical School (State University of New York) Dr. Richard D. Feinman. Why haven’t you heard of him? Simple. The drug companies are busy making sure he gets no funding. Outrageous. I am told that he has some Nutrition Study Foundation that big Pharma is busy making sure there is no publicity.
mrssuzfayer 8 months ago
Am I the only person who's getting hungry from all the noise of the knives and forks and dishes in the background?
mikerudjazz 8 months ago 2
Scary to think how a small amount of irresponsible scientists (if you can call them that) could've caused so much damage to society. Think of all the people with with type 2 diabetes, weight problems and a whole host of other issues - that, for the majority, could've been avoided.. We need more seperation between science, government and corporations.
bcowcher 9 months ago
36:03... wrong!... you can see a high degree of correlation with even just total cholesterol and heart disease, the rates are quite linear upwards from about 150 total HDL/LDL (even regardless of a more accurate good to bad ratio) - for each 10 points above 150 heart disease goes up and up... just try to clog your vascular system with as much cholesterol as you can, if you stay alkalized it will never happen... go for a 70-90% occlusion of the coronary artery... atherosclerosis
glorp896 9 months ago
27:44, thats so stupid... no relationship to fat and heart disease, but only sugar? of course its a matter of TOO MUCH FAT WHEN you are ALSO eating alot of sugar... you can eat a vegan diet with under 20% of calories from fat (more than enough) and you won't have heart disease... some push it down to 10% of calories from fat as vegans... 29:09... retarded... reduce sugar and fat... the point is who is going to do a caloric restriction diet, thats the key - some say 30% below the USA average
glorp896 9 months ago
12:25 WRONG! go from cholesterol laden diet to ZERO cholesterol diet and your "bad" cholesterol will drop... just add some carbs to all that animal food and your cholesterol will go up... so you MUST assume a standard american diet and specify the dynamic of your diet, otherwise these simplistic stupid statements are no better than what he THINKS he is debunking... 15:00... more stupid simplistics, at least he follows it with cut out carbs, and you can do this in reverse and get better results
glorp896 9 months ago
@glorp896 - WRONG. First of all, half the cholesterol you eat goes out with the stool, never digested. Even a diet supervised by a doctor will reduce values 10-15% at most- not enough for important change.
" [s]implistic stupid statements" that fail to account for the liver's damnable production of bad cholesterol (genes) are pointless.
orgamikrikit 9 months ago in playlist recipes 2
@orgamikrikit i guess you need to read JOHN McDougall AND HIS WORK - how many doctors would even suggest someone become a vegan or even a raw food vegan?!... THATS what gets results... my cholesterol as a vegan has always been below 150, way below actually... 6 or so blood tests... of course we are stuck with 500 characters as to simplistic statements and dealing with organic chem, but go on, do your homework - cholesterol will drop like a rock on these diets... dean ornish as well...
glorp896 9 months ago
@glorp896 -I've done my homework; human history has little in the way of a fashionable vegan diet; there is no scientific evidence that this is what humans should be, or have been eating. This has nothing to do with organic chemistry; it has to do with the fact that all evidence points to meat eating by humans and their precessesors, neadertals- for millions of years. In fact, they evolved into humans because of it. But if veganism works for you, by all means, stay with it...
orgamikrikit 9 months ago in playlist recipes 39
@orgamikrikit thats not true at all, most of eating for a long time was vegan - animal husbandry came late in human history - gatherers/hunters gathered a hell of a lot versus hunting... hunting fruit on trees is FAR easier and when we started growing grains we became far more vegan... even since WWII our meat eating has gone way up... there is PLENTY of scientific info that vegans are far superior to meat eaters... i've seen the date many times over... nothing to do with organic chem? crazy!
glorp896 9 months ago
@glorp896 "there is PLENTY of scientific info that vegans are far superior to meat eaters..."
LOL, no there is not. I'll take sports as an example. The extreme vast majority of elite level athletes incorporate meat into their diet. For anything thats strength or power related, it's even increased to where animal related foods will be the majority of calories.
Jynus13 9 months ago
@Jynus13 u r quite silly and need to do your homework... the extreme vast majority of humans (if we r to be american exclusive at least) incorporate meat into their diet... so its like a few percent if even competing with 98%+ i would guess, hardly a fair comparison... u need to learn about the PROTEIN MYTH - MEAT STRONG, PROTEIN UGH!, give me your best caveman grunt... its so stupid... my own experience is NOT to run on meat, but raw foods... some vegan weight lifters have won contests...
glorp896 9 months ago
@Jynus13 "Four members of UPROAR recently participated in the International Powerlifting Federation competition. In their words "It was a successful day where ignorant opinions about veganism such as 'you can't be strong without eating meat and other animal products' were put to shame."
Between the four of them, they won three 1st place spots, and one 2nd, in their respective weight categories. A member named Noah also took home the "best lifter" trophy" - would you like more examples? HAHAHA
glorp896 9 months ago
@Jynus13 a quote i found: "when you consider that only around 0.5% (although this figure may be higher) of the world population is vegan, and say 1% of those vegans (as an example) choose to become athletes, they are outnumbered by non-vegans on a massive scale. If 50% of the world population were vegan and 5% of those were into competitive sports and that tallied with 5% of non-vegans competing in sports, then obviously, we would have more of a balance." from bestveganguidedotcom
glorp896 9 months ago
@Jynus13 Jane Black has set numerous Master's National and World records in weightlifting, and in the process has shattered the stereotype of the "frail vegan." i can give you a link for a list of vegan winners, beating out a MUCH larger group of meatheads...
glorp896 9 months ago
@glorp896 "If 50% of the world population were vegan [...] then obviously, we would have more of a balance."
Not necessarily, because the average person doesn't have the same incentive to fine-tune his diet for performance that an athlete does. Even if 99% of people were vegan, why would that necessarily be reflected in the competitive athletic world? Some 99% of people don't physically train very much. Do you think that's also necessarily reflected in the world of competitive athletics?
hitssquad 9 months ago
@glorp896 "Jane Black"
Black says vegan diets cause obesity: vrg. org/journal/vj2000jan/2000janjaneblack. htm "If you are going for [...] low body fat, a vegan diet will have its drawbacks"
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...And apparently there's a good reason no one has ever heard of Jane Black: "Since the official weight categories have been changed a couple of times, the world records I hold can never be broken [...] Her personal record competitive lifts are a 65 kilo (143 lb.) snatch"
hitssquad 9 months ago
@hitssquad haha! good stuff, black shows vegan aint perfect and the records don't even really matter anyway... oh well, at least i still proved my point... you can be a high functioning athlete in a number of ways - fruitarian arnstein, coca cola drinking ann trason, THE ULTIMATE MEAL (me), or the INUIT? hmmm, still waiting for that INUIT olympian...
glorp896 9 months ago
@hitssquad not necessarily? of course, thats the whole point... that vegans are such a small minority its not as fair a comparison... now shall we compare 100 vegan athletes with 100 meat head athletes? and of course 1 year vegan, 1 year meathead comparisons for the same person would be best... i've seen some the animal product consumers that run long distance and they cut back alot! they are not having a bunch of meat like the Inuit... but i guess weight lifters can eat lots of meat and...
glorp896 9 months ago
@orgam who wants to live like the INUIT?!, sure its happened and is, but certainly there is a dynamic of dietary ability and homeostasis in a broad range of diets among humans, because certainly we have had our extremes and variation over the long haul in history - this is why some people focus on adaptations of diets in their heritage and what they are used to - like me and being so irish (potatoes and oats... etc... but even so we can adapt, to a vegan diet no less! but to be like the INUIT?
glorp896 9 months ago
@orgamikrikit i guess you really need to read the vegan propaganda, i've plugged one vegan pop doc; you can also read JOHN ROBBINS "Diet for a New America", or Neal Barnard... just google vegan... i'm a vegan by the odds of it, i would gladly eat hoards of big macs if i thought it was good for me, but i remember the UGH! feeling the last time i did this (20++ years ago!... your stomach feels better on a vegan diet vs. meat and mucus forming foods, like the liquid meat people call MILK...
glorp896 9 months ago
@orgamikrikit sure its true that calorically dense food is important for survival in the wild on and off, i wouldn't pass it up if that were the case, like some mountain man situation, but we don't need to be hunter/gatherers any more... some people yes, in pockets around the globe - so our evolutionary situation is still with us, we simply are not used to abundance yet, and YET we still live longer and longer despite getting fatter and fatter... i've read the intersect will come soon, reversal
glorp896 9 months ago
@glorp896 "gatherers/hunters gathered a hell of a lot versus hunting"
You consider shellfish and turtles to be "fruit"?
hitssquad 9 months ago
@hits as per your message: that 12 pounds per day needed for gathering? thats just crazy? what were the plants? lettuce? - i remember seeing 4000 calories per day for slaves in the antebellum south working all day... Dean Karnazes is an ultramarathoner whose most recent exploit was to run 50 marathons in 50 consecutive states in 50 consecutive days (his upper limit was about 9000 calories burned per day... so what is this gathering food that requires 12 pounds for even ONLY 4000 calories
glorp896 9 months ago
@hitssquad lettuce: 4 calories per oz times 16 ounces= 64 calories times 12 pounds = 768 calories... yep, you better find some better GATHERING! Human Chorionic Gonadotropin, hcgweightlossdietsDOTcom: When on hCG diet the 500 calorie diet is the maximum amount of calories your body is to take in order for the human chorionic gonadotropin to function within your body.
If you fail this 500 calorie per day restriction you put at great risk of your daily average weight loss (1lb) at risk...
glorp896 9 months ago
@orgamikrikit 5 thumbs up for terrible spelling and extremist absolutist views? i guess people REALLY love their meat!
glorp896 9 months ago
@orgamikrikit of course i should have spelled it DATA and not date... but dates are good... and vegan... vegans have much lower rates of heart disease and cancer, the top two killers... what more do you need to see? go on down the list of the CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL top killers... vegans survive longer, thats why i do it... my main reason...
glorp896 9 months ago
@glorp896 "lettuce: 4 calories per oz times 16 ounces= 64 calories times 12 pounds = 768 calories."
en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Lettuce "13 calories per 100 g = 130 calories per kg = 707 calories per 5.44 kg (12 pounds)
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You could fuel Michael Phelps for one day with 200 pounds of lettuce.
hitssquad 9 months ago
@glorp896 "vegans have much lower rates of heart disease and cancer"
Filter out the confounding variables, and offer a plausible explanation both for why heart-disease and cancer are absent in meat-eating populations and for why we should expect meat to cause heart disease or cancer given that -- unlike all plant foods except avocado coconut oil -- it contains little of the glucose needed for both those diseases and doesn't spike the insulin needed for both those diseases, and maybe serious
hitssquad 9 months ago
scientists will start listening to you.
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It might also help if you would explain this (Lierre Keith, The Vegetarian Myth): "Compared to the average US American, Seventh-Day Adventists have lower rates of “hypertension, diabetes, arthritis, colon cancer, prostate cancer, fatal CHD in males, and death from all causes.”295
Because Seventh-Day Adventists are supposed to refrain from meat, politicized vegetarians have raised these numbers as a battle cry. But comparing Seventh-Day Adventists to the
hitssquad 9 months ago
"average US American is absurd, because they are also forbidden to drink alcohol and coffee and they aren’t allowed to smoke. They eat substantially more fresh food and substantially fewer doughnuts. Of course they’re healthier. If you want to claim that their health is a function of their vegetarian diets, you need to find a cohort to compare them to: a group of people whose diet and lifestyle match that of the Seventh-Day Adventists except for meat. Guess what? Those people exist. They're
hitssquad 9 months ago
"called Mormons. Mormons also abstain from alcohol, coffee, smoking, and lots of the generalized junk of SAD. But they eat meat. Guess who lives longer? Surely you’ve guessed the punchline: Mormons.296"
hitssquad 9 months ago
@hits mormons are why utah has repeatedly ranked very high in states as to health... vermont as well i believe (one of the whitest states of the three most white - hey, i like to be racial sometimes... and blacks and hispanics have crappier health than whites. i've heard mormons don't eat that much meat... less than the average american... book of mormon scripture recommends eating meat \"only in times of winter or famine\", eating plenty of grains and herbs, and fruits, yet not a commandment
glorp896 9 months ago
@hitssquad i've thought this and heard it before, i just say: great, eat like a vegan and follow the rest of their lifestyle as well... not many vegans smoke, do drugs and booze... but some do... yet of course they are far more likely to brush up on ideal health in many ways... staying away from refined sugar foods, eating whole grains, eating fresh, local, etc... exercise, etc... but i've seen some data that includes SEDENTARY vegans in with the data and still out do meat/sugarheads...
glorp896 9 months ago
@hits i actually ordered their rather technical and detailed literature MANY years ago as to diet... some good hard science stuff... not sure if i have it anymore... i was impressed... circa 1987 - talking about the SEVEN DAY gang... Of the 34192 participants, all members of the Seventh-day Adventist church: 29 percent were vegetarian, while 7-10 percent of the vegetarians were vegan - so not a good comparison with mormons... and crunch the numbers and see well under 5% are vegans - under 3%?
glorp896 9 months ago
@hitssquad i gave you the data for this before... why should i do it again?, did you collect and keep it like you do Taubes?
glorp896 9 months ago
@hitssquad LOL, hits your the best!
glorp896 9 months ago
@hitssquad oh wait, i judged too quickly, you forget another plant he uses, maryjane...
glorp896 9 months ago
@glorp896 "yet of course they are far more likely to brush up on ideal health in many ways... staying away from refined sugar foods"
...As detailed here: gnolls. org/tag/vegetarians-eat-meat "The data is clear: in America, ‘vegetarian’ doesn’t mean “I don’t eat animals.” It means “I am trying to eat a healthy diet according to the recommendations of our government, the ADA, and my doctor or nutritionist.”"
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"eating whole grains"
Like the Egyptians did? What happened to them?
hitssquad 9 months ago
@hitssquad i was thinking of the glycemic index and its effect... surely you abide by this, its a great argument against so many carbs... even white flour pasta is recommended to be cooked AL DENTE and that helps with the volatility of sugar insulin ups and downs...
glorp896 9 months ago
@hitssquad so hitster, whatdaya think of the new food plate? - no more 4 food groups, then no more pyramid and now a new thing to debunk and alter? hey, at least they deemphasized the liquid meat we like to call milk, but it bothers me that it makes it look like a glass of milk to the upper right of your plate... these silly constructs are gov't guidelines based on what? lobbying, the zeitgeist and milieu of the time, health trends?... Maybe you can send them an INUIT version? LOL
glorp896 8 months ago
@glorp896 "whatdaya think of the new food plate?"
I think Fat Head's response covers it pretty well: fathead-movie. com
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"Fat Head: And instead of concluding that your guidelines were wrong, you decided the real problem is that the average American is stupid?
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USDA: [...] Americans need to understand quickly how to have a balanced and nutritious meal.
Fat Head: Which means filling more than one-quarter of their plates with grains every time they eat?
USDA: Exactly.
hitssquad 8 months ago
"Fat Head: And if they do that, they’ll end up as lean as people were back in the 1940s, when the USDA recommended just one serving of grains per day, along with three or four glasses of whole milk and plenty of butter?
USDA: Right, because— uh … you know, you really shouldn’t go around banging your head on solid objects like that."
hitssquad 8 months ago
@orgamikrikit - that seems to be the case, but the physiology of the human body is what doesn't support a meat-eating diet for a variety of reasons. Humans don't have teeth like carnivores, except for 4 canines - out of 28 -32 teeth. Carnivores tend to have more teeth that are all sharp like incisors.
That more suggests that humans are equipped to tear meat but it isn't intended to be a main dietary source.
Also the colons of carnivores are shorter than humans.
MannySteinerBIeeky 8 months ago
@MannySteinerBIeeky - Animals use their teeth to affect a kill; and they chew very little before swallowing; and real carnivores eat mostly meat. Humans ate what they could get; as they were scavengers. So a longer colon and the meat thing seems a tenuous correlation at best. Humans use weapons (via their hands) to kill. Then they usually cook the meat. In other words, humans have a diverse diet- animals dont. So humans can tear meat and eat and grind other things, then swallow.
orgamikrikit 8 months ago
@orgamikrikit what about raw meat vs. cooked?
I personally believe cows have eating right. they can eat the most inedible food and grow massively. The answer is and has always been microbes. But pound for pound, meat is the quickest/easiest food. But microbial protein and fatty acids has got to be the best.
ParapaDrifter 8 months ago
@ParapaDrifter - problem there being that cows are ruminants with four stomachs. Gorillas however - do show that being a fruitarian certainly doesn't mean you can't be big and muscley. Certainly, there's much to learn about how animals convert eating & not huge amounts of exercise, into lean muscle mass and strength. Except of course - animals kept in cages / factory-farmed, as pets etc. If they are overfed they like humans merely get fat. Due to the un-natural types of food mainly.
MannySteinerBIeeky 8 months ago
@MannySteinerBIeeky think about it. Culturing microbes is how a cow does it. Humans replicate what a cow does when they culture their food. Got it?
couple that with:
-the fact that fatty acids are the brain's preferred energy
-unused fatty acids cant be turned into fatty adispose tissue
-unused carbs are turned into fat
-Ketogenic/atkins diets can be successful
-bacteria are largely responsible for complete digestion and healthy digestive system
Consider the ruminant problem solved.
ParapaDrifter 8 months ago
@ParapaDrifter - well our own natural gut bacteria of course are important in healthy digestion, and those can be replaced by the yoghurts that contain those cultures etc.
Are you talking about things like sauerkraut when you say 'culturing microbes'?
This all sounds to me like it comes from the same place as the likes of denial that man-made things contribute greatly to climate-change, in that some people seem to ignore all science purely on the basis that some is lacking.
MannySteinerBIeeky 8 months ago
@ParapaDrifter - with a cow, one reason they have the digestion system they do is because it's required to break down cellulose in grasses they eat, for example.
I'm not clear on what you're saying we should copy about them - cause to copy that would mean the equivalent of our eating food that is already partially digested. Which isn't natural, ie our bodies won't have the genetic memory of working with that. People ate as paleo diets suggested, to give energy stores and of course nutrients.
MannySteinerBIeeky 8 months ago
@ParapaDrifter - in terms of raw or cooked meat, kind of a toss-up between real dates of when fire became controllable & weapons or traps were invented. It's also possible that a kinship may have been exploited or used sustainably. How would anyone have considered heating of any foods, unless they first noticed via natural fires that the taste was palatable. Problem with any heating is that it destroys enzymes and often destroys vitamins and minerals too. However in some cases it converts things
MannySteinerBIeeky 8 months ago
@MannySteinerBIeeky Good call. I feel there is some disinformation surrounding early humans eating cooked meat. sun dried meat may have been the first adulteration/preservation of meat.. like pemmican.
Still, the work of Aajonus Vonderplanitz is too enticing to glaze over because of a raw food stigma. I'm a raw foodist, certainly. But fermentation of our food.. well... there it is again. I'm still trying to "replicate the rumen"
lol at the food pyramid, and the 'my plate' - lets make our own?
ParapaDrifter 8 months ago
@orgamikrikit
Neanderthals were not the predecessor of homo sapiens. I agree we evolved eating lean meat as the preferred food source.
dzmiller100 7 months ago
@orgamikrikit This may sound knit-picky but just to inform....Neandertals and cromagnons(modern humans) existed at the same time. They are two different branches of the human tree. There were possibly other branches that also existed at the same time as both of these. Neandertals simply died out(or were assimilated) leaving only the modern humans around 30,000 years ago.
That bit aside, I agree that humans evolved based on a diet high in meat, eggs, fruits, nuts and veggies.
VanMoth 7 months ago 3
@orgamikrikit Not true throughout the whole world. That may not have been the case in other parts of the world. But here in india, vegetarianism has been part of life and society since antiquity. It is part of culture and religion. Things are changing now because of importing western culture. The religions that originated here, such as hinduism, buddhism and jainism are strictly vegetarian.
smuralisankar 5 months ago 3
@orgamikrikit u remind me of a body chemist's education that he now figures is wrong, he was taught you need to ingest about 20% of your cholesterol, as the body makes the other 80% it needs. this whole range is in flux and hardly something you can pin point in the dynamic case of organic chem, so its a NONSENSE MEANINGLESS stat, just as RECOMMENDED DAILY ALLOWANCES are MEANINGLESS (as was said by a doctor at the HEALTH SHOW in disney... went to the first two annual shows... think dynamic flux
glorp896 9 months ago
@orgamik check out any blood panel listed ranges for all the usual markers of health - trigs, albumin, etc... the ranges are WILD and even if you are high or low they rarely do anything except monitor it... you'd think if they are even going to test for these ranges that high/low would mean something for any and all of these indicators, yet they ignore so much of it - we really don't know what is ideal for a day, a week, a year or from hour to hour... the quantitative analysis is QUITE WANTING
glorp896 9 months ago
Thank you for putting out this video! I can not say that the notion of a low-fat diet being the right way to lose weight is new to me, however the way Diamond has presented this topic in his presentation here was VERY beneficial to me as a non-specialist in a way that he has provided actual proof to his statements and everything. I really found this truly educational and motivating for myself, even though I am far from being obese, yet I have gained unwanted weight in the last year or so.
TheDivritenis 9 months ago
9:10... LOL, 9:24 LOL, its all a matter of balance - you can't have too much of everything at the same time, but you can load up on carbs if you cut fat and vice versa (drop carbs and eat more fat... i don't know of a benefit of excessive protein - the PROTEIN MYTH has largely attributed no benefit..., but you can get away with loads of carbs and fat, IF not at the same time... protein loss in minimal, daily requirements aren't that much - ketosis, etc... too much of anything doesn't work
glorp896 9 months ago
@glorp896 "ketosis, etc... too much of anything doesn't work"
Please clarify.
hitssquad 9 months ago
i keep wanting to eat some chocolate chip cookies... MUST FIGHT SATAN!, will put this off for awhile... i prefer the work of the DIAMONDS in their book "Fit for Life" - I don't like the work of Jared Diamond in his GUNS, GERMS AND STEEL book but i do like the work of JARED TAYLOR
glorp896 9 months ago
@glorp896"i keep wanting to eat some chocolate chip cookies"
Now you can (with zero carbs): yestocookies. com
hitssquad 9 months ago
This should be compulsory viewing for everyone, in order to vastly improve the health of many populations.Excellently explained and presented and now, instead of trying to convince my contacts of these facts without this resource,which I have been trying to do for some years now, I can pass on this URL! THANK YOU!
HolisticPlace 9 months ago
Ask any cardiologist what % of their "heart attack" patients have low cholesterol and if they are honest, they will say about 50%. In other words - cholesterol can't be the problem. in fact, it's the body's solution to help heal. much like the function of white blood cells during an infection - cholesterol comes to the rescue. dr diamond did what 90% of americans will not do - he made a lifestyle change to go after the cause rather than a silver bullet drug. this is the only way to cure
groovin25 9 months ago 16
@groovin25 if you become too acidic your body "worries" about acidic blood boring holes through the vascular tissue and as such cholesterol can work like FIX A FLAT and it helps seal the inner surface where the blood flows, but you do not want to be in an acidic state where this is necessary - to become alkaline you can do this perfectly eating a raw food diet, and the cholesterol build up with go away - so you could blame acidic PH in your blood while cholesterol is symptomatic of imbalance...
glorp896 9 months ago
You can find the powerpoint slides here:
hartkeisonline*com/wp-content/uploads/Dinner-with-a-scholar-2011.ppt
olifante 9 months ago 2
some interesting quotes:
"low cholesterol is highly correlated with cancer"
"the essence of heart disease is a tear followed by an infection"
olifante 9 months ago 3
@olifante low cholesterol vegans and raw fooders have MUCH lower cancer rates... its all how you line up your variables and correlates... cholesterol is really like VITAMIN K, you don't need to eat any of it...
glorp896 9 months ago
I liked the video, but why omit the Q&A? The discussion often is more informative than the actual talk, please include those in the future.
LivLeg 9 months ago
Was this video recorded in a restaurant?
RosaLichtenstein01 9 months ago
Great video. Wish I could have seen more of the slides, and wish I could have heard the Q&A. It was an interesting lecture to present during a dinner, as you heard the cutlery clinking. I wonder how much it affected the audience's enjoyment of their meal? Not that it would have mine, as I have been low carb since 2006.
scall0way 9 months ago 3
Excellent video!!! All you have to do is look at old photos from the 40's,50's,and 60's and note how the people were all thin. This is when they ate more fat,butter and eggs and the milk was delivered with all it's fat. Now you can hardly find whole milk only soy,almond,coconut,non fat. The food and nutrition industry has created a monster that won't go away!!
1661biwig55 9 months ago 2
@ZoeHarcombe this video is on the level of Sugar : The Bitter Truth
Mrgaifanas 9 months ago
First class video, been following these myths for some time, since the doctor tried to get me on statins. Sad part is how the US health establishment still chooses to ignore the science, they have blood on their hands.
mariomotown 9 months ago 3
Brilliant video - I hope it gets as many hits as "Sugar : The Bitter Truth" - the world needs to keep hearing the truth
ZoeHarcombe 9 months ago 4
@ZoeHarcombe too much of anything is evil, you can OD on water, people have drank themselves to death on water - once on a radio show live, stupid morons didn't know about it and once for a college hazing, again, they didn't know it could kill their prospect... but i guess you can eat all the meat you want IF THATS ABOUT ALL YOU EAT, like the INUIT, who wants that!? and you often lose too much water weight in these diets, as Atkins warns you need to drink more water to lose the proper weight
glorp896 9 months ago
@glorp896 "you often lose too much water weight in these diets"
Please clarify.
hitssquad 9 months ago
@hitssquad you can read it right in there in ATKINS book, he knows thats a problem with the meat/veggie diet - so he wants to make sure people are not losing too much water weight, which is what can happen on this diet, NOT what you want to do... so part of the program is to be committed to drinking more water, and they tell you about how much... thats hardly something Arnstein needs to worry about, unless he is running that day! as to technical details of why this happens? read up on it...
glorp896 9 months ago
@glorp896 "you can read it right in there in ATKINS book"
You're referring to this?: "Although their bodies would almost certainly adjust during the second week, there isn't any good reason for feeling washed out and sickly for even one day. After the symptoms abate, go back to the lower level of carb intake."
You equated that with the notion that anyone would die of dehydration if they ate no sugar?
hitssquad 9 months ago
@hitssquad i most certainly did not good sir, no equivalent implied or given, but you DO lose water weight in these kinds of diets if you don't start drinking more than you usually would, and thats not the weight you really want to lose, you wanna lose the fat... but your rather extreme charge on my dietary rep would help lend credence to a carbo fruitarian that has a far better chance of staying hydrated during his long runs... but maybe SEARS zoney book is more explicit in this water thing.(?)
glorp896 9 months ago
@hitssquad i have confused the two having read much of both around the same time, they are both similar and Sears kind of tagged along the tail of Atkins as Atkins was having a revival, having made his meaty-veggie points long ago with a concomitant failure in the past as well... i don't like either extreme - Inuit-Arnstein-Freelee (Freelea, banana girl), etc... so even as a vegan i've found myself stuck with needing a balance more in favor of consuming less fat, which is atypical minus animal
glorp896 9 months ago
@glorp896 "i most certainly did not"
You were asked for clarification. You refused to clarify. What does it mean to "lose too much water weight"? Does it mean to instantly drop dead? That's all we can assume, since you refused to clarify.
hitssquad 9 months ago
@glorp896 "a carbo fruitarian that has a far better chance of staying hydrated during his long runs"
What does that mean? Do you quantify any you say?
hitssquad 9 months ago
@hitssquad sure, try the Inuit diet while running long distance... of course you would have to add alot of water, as long as you are eating fruit you get tons of water... not so hard to understand is it?
glorp896 9 months ago
@hitsoh i'll be more technical, semi-dehydrated? i don't know a scale of dehydration, i do know that if you lose 5% of your body weight, almost entirely water, when you are running these ultramarathon races and you are at a weigh station, as they must all do several times during these races (a few times at least), you are OUT OF THE RACE... sorry for crappy sentence structure... not redoing it... and PLEASE feel free to debunk the water doctor: Dr. F. Batmanghelidj, now THATS an easy med plan!
glorp896 9 months ago
@glorp896 "as long as you are eating fruit you get tons of water"
Dates?: thefruitarian. com "I had a good stock of fresh dates with me, and that was going to be my primary option for calories. [...] 6lbs of dates" "I know I have to eat, eat, eat! I know I can rebound and finish in the mid 14 hour range if I just get the calories in. Experience goes a long long way in these races. I force a lot of dates over the next hour even though eating anything is repulsive."
hitssquad 9 months ago
@hitssquad calorically dense no doubt... and there is the issue of HOLDING IT DOWN with these runners... i almost always had to time my bowels movements... its weird as well, its like your bowel knows its going for a long UP AND DOWN jolt during a run making you QUITE REGULAR on a faster timescale... and you will have to go to the bathroom ONLY because you were getting ready to run a long time as opposed to sedentary lifestyles and staying full of poop... interesting effect...
glorp896 9 months ago
@hitssquad there is also the adaptation of not feeling hungry when you REALLY ARE AND NEED IT, he mentions this in his running... so i timed my eating, bathroom visit and hydration all, throughout the day as a long distance runner... when you really become good at it, your whole day is a thinking process on and off to schedule your run, which in my case was two runs a day for awhile... 40+ miles per week - long distance running for me only lasted 1.5 years or so (minimum is 5 fives, 25 miles/wk
glorp896 9 months ago