The reason I said this is a profound scene is because I have a liking for the character of Larry in this film, one of the reasons being that he is an inquisitive person and is not a person who blindly submits to anything. He is a symbol of non-conformity to me. He had a lot of questions on his mind, he refused to conform to the dogmatic ways of society, he wanted answers and he was not willing to give up. I can relate to Larry, this is like me when I was questioning religion for the first time.
I agree. However, I think the whole scene was trying to answer the perpitual questions what is the purpose of our existence and purpose of suffering. This goes along the book of Job. The idea is not original, however the movie is super.
@moishele328 Yep. Agreed. I just happen to think that there is no purpose of existence or there does not have to be one. The purpose of life is different for different people, it's wildly subjective. It may be different for you than it is for me. It is more driven by us than any authority. It's common for humans to try and find purpose to everything. Humans can't accept that things are uncertain for some reason. It runs counter to their dearly held beliefs that there is a special plan for them.
@ravi00090 But wait, can't we say the same about you? It's not that there's no purpose to life you just, personally, don't like authority. You find comfort in the fact that life is purely subjective with respects to meaning.... maybe it's not that way, but you find comfort in it. It scares you that there might be a wrong and right way to do something, so you find solace in uncertainty because you can't accept that there very well could be a divine plan for you.
@jorgekluney Easier to say. More and more scientific research is only going on to prove that there is absolutely no basis of morality in scriptures or religion. That even genetics can predispose a person to being aggressive and feeling less empathy towards others. Yes, I can't accept that there is any divine plan. It is a cop-out to evade legit questions and was created by people who didn't know any better. I do not claim to have any answers as well. But religion certainly isnt it.
@ravi00090 You're wrong. Science doesn't tackle metaphysical questions. You say you don't blindly follow dogma, but you certainly are. You make assertions "there is absolutely no basis of moratliy in scriptures or religion" which have no founding accept emotions. So, you are exactly what you mock. But you don't see it, why? Because you're fundamentally wedded to a particular dogma. Assertions with alot of blind passion are not arguments.
@jorgekluney You're quick to make judgments, aren't you? I already stated that i do not think we know everything or we know any absolute reality, didn't even imply that an absolute reality can be known. You are the one who seems to be dogmatic.
@ravi00090 Not at all. You're making broad generalizations with respects to metaphysical realities simply off the fact that you can't shoe horn those views into a scientific method. Because there is the lack of fit you make bold claims regarding the ontological nature of those beliefs... which is dogmatic of you. You can think it's making "quick judgments", but it is what it is.
@jorgekluney . Watch again. The Rabbis makes that statement I(it is actually "The goy? Who cares") immediately after the place where this clip ends and it concludes the scene. Check it out on youtube. How could you see this movie and not hear that? Did you watch it somewhere where it may have been censored out?
@ravi00090 But doesn't looking for answers means you're willing to submit to dogma? If you're willing to admit that there are indeed answers to questions you seek then wouldn't that mean there are indeed certain things that are and maybe should be dogmatic? Because you want the answers to be real. So, the "non-conformity" cry is a bit off. You can't have an inherent problem with dogma if you're willing to accept that actual, real, true answers exist.
The rabbi is played by the same actor who played Colonel Sanders in Spaceballs.
rkkim 7 months ago 8
The reason I said this is a profound scene is because I have a liking for the character of Larry in this film, one of the reasons being that he is an inquisitive person and is not a person who blindly submits to anything. He is a symbol of non-conformity to me. He had a lot of questions on his mind, he refused to conform to the dogmatic ways of society, he wanted answers and he was not willing to give up. I can relate to Larry, this is like me when I was questioning religion for the first time.
ravi00090 7 months ago
@ravi00090
everyone goes through this when they experience personal tragedy, no answer is ever good enough.
pboisei 7 months ago
@pboisei No answer is better than making up our own answers.
ravi00090 7 months ago
@ravi00090
I agree. However, I think the whole scene was trying to answer the perpitual questions what is the purpose of our existence and purpose of suffering. This goes along the book of Job. The idea is not original, however the movie is super.
moishele328 6 months ago
@moishele328 Yep. Agreed. I just happen to think that there is no purpose of existence or there does not have to be one. The purpose of life is different for different people, it's wildly subjective. It may be different for you than it is for me. It is more driven by us than any authority. It's common for humans to try and find purpose to everything. Humans can't accept that things are uncertain for some reason. It runs counter to their dearly held beliefs that there is a special plan for them.
ravi00090 6 months ago
@ravi00090
Well said.
HungryTacoBoy 5 months ago
@ravi00090 Accept mystery.
narsattacks 3 months ago
@ravi00090 But wait, can't we say the same about you? It's not that there's no purpose to life you just, personally, don't like authority. You find comfort in the fact that life is purely subjective with respects to meaning.... maybe it's not that way, but you find comfort in it. It scares you that there might be a wrong and right way to do something, so you find solace in uncertainty because you can't accept that there very well could be a divine plan for you.
jorgekluney 2 months ago
@jorgekluney Easier to say. More and more scientific research is only going on to prove that there is absolutely no basis of morality in scriptures or religion. That even genetics can predispose a person to being aggressive and feeling less empathy towards others. Yes, I can't accept that there is any divine plan. It is a cop-out to evade legit questions and was created by people who didn't know any better. I do not claim to have any answers as well. But religion certainly isnt it.
ravi00090 2 months ago
@ravi00090 You're wrong. Science doesn't tackle metaphysical questions. You say you don't blindly follow dogma, but you certainly are. You make assertions "there is absolutely no basis of moratliy in scriptures or religion" which have no founding accept emotions. So, you are exactly what you mock. But you don't see it, why? Because you're fundamentally wedded to a particular dogma. Assertions with alot of blind passion are not arguments.
jorgekluney 2 months ago
@jorgekluney You're quick to make judgments, aren't you? I already stated that i do not think we know everything or we know any absolute reality, didn't even imply that an absolute reality can be known. You are the one who seems to be dogmatic.
ravi00090 2 months ago
@ravi00090 Not at all. You're making broad generalizations with respects to metaphysical realities simply off the fact that you can't shoe horn those views into a scientific method. Because there is the lack of fit you make bold claims regarding the ontological nature of those beliefs... which is dogmatic of you. You can think it's making "quick judgments", but it is what it is.
jorgekluney 2 months ago
@moishele328. The whole scene shows us what a racist buffoon this particular rabbi is. Nothing else.
Uncle99B 5 months ago
@Uncle99B How does this scene show he's a racist buffoon?
jorgekluney 2 months ago
@jorgekluney . "The Goyim?. Who cares".
Uncle99B 2 months ago
@Uncle99B Unless that's in another scene.... I haven't seen this movie, only this scene and I don't hear him saying that.
jorgekluney 2 months ago
@jorgekluney . Watch again. The Rabbis makes that statement I(it is actually "The goy? Who cares") immediately after the place where this clip ends and it concludes the scene. Check it out on youtube. How could you see this movie and not hear that? Did you watch it somewhere where it may have been censored out?
Uncle99B 2 months ago
@ravi00090 But doesn't looking for answers means you're willing to submit to dogma? If you're willing to admit that there are indeed answers to questions you seek then wouldn't that mean there are indeed certain things that are and maybe should be dogmatic? Because you want the answers to be real. So, the "non-conformity" cry is a bit off. You can't have an inherent problem with dogma if you're willing to accept that actual, real, true answers exist.
jorgekluney 2 months ago
I agree with your assessment
ShahidMiller 9 months ago
That's AWESOME
campaz83 10 months ago
good scene, very central to the film
pleasedontask 10 months ago