Its funny to read these comments. All these Mexicans talking trash about the U.S. Why then are they watching our movies? Why do they cross our border to come to America? You mexicans are a joke and inferior the the U.S. as this movie proves. Mexico sits right about where our a** hole would...so we can shit all over you. Wetback fools. Since you cant afford real sports such as football, go play some soccer (i.e futbol). And while youre at it sell some drugs and come dig me a ditch
@snakeyes105 - the funniest thing is that the conflict was 175 years ago (this year there will be a sort of round anniversary of the Alamo and San Jacinto), but the emotions are still so strong (at least in YT comments)
el heroico ejercito mexicano derroto a loz reveldes sin las exajeradas bajas k los gringos inventan en sus peliculas... santanna era un pendejo ignorante x eso mexico perdio medio pais... en esos tiempos mexico tenia grandes generales cualkiera de ellos uviera defendido la patria mucho mejor.
@burkecity lo sobornaron para dejarse ganar, porq ve lo que les hizo en el alamo pero Texas sigue siendo nuestro porque hay mas mexicanos que gringos y teniamos, tenemos y siempre tendremos mas HUEVOS que los gringos
XD Mexican people make me laugh... can't you just realise that Mexica was never a great power ? If you want to be it one day, you'll have to admit you were weak in the past... Or you'll never progress.
@Newwarp you make laugh more!! frances ja ja ja xd xd!! esa expresion ez tan francesa ja ja!! y si mexico nunca fue una gran potencia militar no significa k no lo pueda ser no seas tarado.
TEXAS SHALL HAVE HER FREEDOM ONCE THE CURSED SCOURGE OF AMERICAN IMPERIALISM AND THE GRASP OF THE DEPRAVED MEXICAN EAGLE HAVE BEEN CAST AWAY FROM HER, AND BANISHED INTO THE DECREPIT DEPTHS OF THE UNDERWORLD.
BLESS THE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS, AND BLESS THOSE WHO WISH TO SEE HER PROSPER.
When you discover the truth about the Alamo it is a shocker! Bowie committed suicide and about 110 ran from the walls leaving their poor comrades (about 60-70) inside to die. Sam Houston tried to tell them to abandon the mission but a Captain Neil convinced them to stay and then he took off. It is all myth!
nOSTROS Los mexicanos Jugaremos que nos vengaremos los mataremos y Los destrosaremos, Por que aun mexicano jamas se le habla y se le deroba cosas El territorio mexicano se le regresa sin custodia alguna.
@tuggles32 The war was between america and mexico. Texas would quickly become a state of america. So yes they are americans they planed to join america immediately
One fact in the History book in the USA, if you add the numbers of Dead Mexican soldiers from every fight in texas, and at Mexico city. You get about 7000 deads. 7000# Still doesn't get close to 13000# number of dead White Americans who die in Mexico city. 13000# add deads of the Alamo number increases. More Americans die since the Alamo.
@Neoguivre No Mexico only loss about 5,000 soldiers. The whites loss more than 13,000 is all over in the history book is also in Google you can search for it. In Google gives you the right numbers same thing in the history book.
@xSeriox4 Inncorrect America lost 13,283 and mexico lost 16,000 from wikipedia CASUALTY FIGURES:United States-- 13,780 dead, many more wounded.
Mexico-- Much higher than the U.S. total. One figure put Mexican casualties at approximately 25,000.. that is from another site second one site google provide. Mexicos casualty figure is unknown but is without a doubt bigger then Americas
@Neoguivre Does shame makes you tell lies huh? I saw the numbers my self. The Americans lost more lives than the Mexicans, you should look at what your saying because Americans attacked French people leaving 1000 dead French people in the Gulf of Mexico in the first battle.
@X4SerioX4ese Those aren't lies. You dont like the casualty rate to bad its the the truth. What battle are you talking about and what does the French have to with america and mexico .
@Neoguivre Haha France immigrated to Mexico built a town near the coast of Mexico where the USA army first arrive. The town was protected by 500 Mexican soldiers while the rest of the town was innocent. The Americans attacked all of the town killing 1000 of the France people. The Mexican army retreated while in the USA army soldiers are splitting choosing sides. The 1000's of Irish USA soldiers decided to die next to the Mexican soldiers, and fight as one against all the USA army.
Mexico is better because men who had not being born in Mexico, and knew nothing about Mexico decided to die for Mexico. We can all celebrate St. Patrics day. Thats why Mexico is recognized as one of the better countries in the world. Richest men in the world is a Mexican.
@xSeriox4 Your really think the things you mentioned makes Mexico "Better" country? Better than who or what? Let me just say that Mexico's economy is terrible, the crime rate is horrific, the government and police force is beyond corrupt, and the unemployment rate is embarrassing. So why is Mexico "better"? Is Mexico even good? Not being a smartass, just asking a "?"
@Jimmycorvettefan71 if your not Irish then you wouldn't know your self either. What I told you is the truth. I don't lie. Because you mentioned all of that what makes you think, you know everything when you are wrong.
@xSeriox4 I am Irish and your English is pitiful at best. What the hell are you trying to say fool? I never said you were a liar. I just basically made you look like a dumbass. Your turn.
@Jimmycorvettefan71 I know your not Irish because am Irish/Mexican, and for what ever reason you don't sound accurate. Richest men in the world? Mexican, and thats why Mexico is better.
@xSeriox4 You don't know shit, and your little comment about the richest man in the world being Mexican doesn't defend the rest of the reasons why Mexico is a shithole. I don't think there is a word to describe how stupid you are, so I will just call you Forrest from here on out.
@Jimmycorvettefan71 you writing words that mean piss. Why do you care about Mexico? Mexico is the best place for old western movies. Mexico is only a name!!!! Every one likes tacos (:
@xSeriox4 Insulting your punk ass is like beating up a kid in a wheelchair, wrong and easy.. Ask your mother what i did to her taco. The best westerns were filmed in the four corners or Oklahoma. My opinion. Either way, Mexico is dirty and blows cock. Like your mum.
@Jimmycorvettefan71 are you a girl? You begin too bother me alot. Now I think your girl. Your moms vaina sweet pussy cat can sucked up. O_o Your mom is a dirty baby cock sucker. Tu eres un pendejo que te haces pasar por un irlandes y tu no eres ni mierda.
@xSeriox4 SO much for Irish pride, I think the spic in you just fucked all that up. Go make me some beans so I have a full stomach when I give it to your mother cuntswaylow
@Jimmycorvettefan71 quick dorking your words, your pathetic pride means nothing to me. You think to much don't include me in your thinking. Do not think about me naked or your a pervert gay idiot who likes to bother.!!!!
@xSeriox4 The only thing I'm "Quick Dorking" Is yo mamma's snatcharoo. Apparently my pride means something, cause you cant shut you "man pleaser." There is no such thing as thinking too much. And I only think about you when I think about videotaping me slamming your mom.
Santa Ana didn't exchange only his life, but Santa exchange his army capture men to be save as well with Santa Ana next to each other. To give up a fight, and still save many life. Santa Ana didn't let no Gringo alive in the Alamo. Not the same way at SanJacinto. Santa Ana walks away fine.
@X4SerioX4ese Santa anna only lied to The americans and President Valentín Gómez Farías. After a failed attempt to conquer the newly independent Texas which quickly joined america
@charlesz3 Santa Ana army fought for our lands against White squatters. Cuauhtemoc's Aztec army fought for our lands against Spaniards. Mexicans in Puebla fought for our lands against the White French. Sioux tribes Native of Americans fought for our lands against White squatters. Santa Ana did the same thing any other leader would had done.
@X4SerioX4ese are you off your head? Do you actually wish to be represented historically by Santa Anna? It's a bit like Germans wishing to be represented by Hitler. Santa Anna was exactly the same as the Spanish colonials that came before, only worse; he was more unashamedly self-serving. His corruption could almost be overlooked if it weren't for his complete incompetence. He stood in the way of progress, he was a dirty murdering war criminal. He was a parasitic leach!!
@B3968 I'm conquering exactly like Santa Ana. (God bless Santa Ana) I'm exactly like Pancho Villa because of this I'm not going to lose like the Natives of American. I admire Santa Ana. I admire the Sioux. For the USA it took years to take down Santa Ana because even when Santa Ana was cough, he was let go free men, you know that. Natives of American live in reservation's one of them is a desert second biggest. I'm Mexican. I'm taking back these lands. (God bless Santa Ana)
@X4SerioX4ese....................did you know that over 20% of the people fighting against santa anna were mexican and that they were from mexico? why do think that is? and did you know that the majority of hispanics in america hate mexico? and did you also know that 60% of hispanics support the arizona bill?
@rdemario So what, if few brown men fought against their people. Pancho Villa, and Zapata did the same thing to take down the White Spaniards off the politics. The majority of USA support Mexico other wise we wouldn't be here today. Nortenos support Mexico. Natives of American in reservations support Mexico. Natives of Americans didn't support Arizona bill for a fact.
@B3968 Ummm progress of slave owners? Only reason the Anglos were so interested in Texas was because they wanted to practice slavery. They did not care to be part of the United States. They did not care for the way we live today. We're lucky Texas wasn't strong enough to do any more damage. If you learn actual history and not just elementary school myths you'll find out that Santa Anna was a good guy compared to any of the so called Alamo defenders.
@cretiro - That's like saying that the soldiers in Afghanistan are fighting for gay marriage. If you think that in conflicts one side is always completely right and the other is always completely worng, then you are a not a very good student of history yourself, and maybe a simple minded fool.
@DesmondMead Hmm? I don't think one side is completly good and the other bad. thats what I was trying not to say. I was arguing against that and trying to open people's minds so they can see that both sides are not fighting for freedom but for their own agendas. You don't have to argue against my intelligence because you have nothing to say man. It's okay you can just not respond at all.
@cretiro - there are myths and counter-myths. Santa Anna a good guy? But what about the Goliad Massacre? He ordered killing the fighters who had surrendered. Do you think it was OK?
@OlenkaWagner "compared to the slave owners that were called the Alamo defenders" I like how you take one little bit of what I was saying and challenge me on it. You're proving my point by doing that. People usually just look at a piece of history and focus on it and base their whole thought on the past on it. It's ridiculous. Santa Anna is not a "good guy" like I have said before. But yes compared to the Alamo defenders he can be considered a good guy
@OlenkaWagner Also if you don't understand comparrisions...I was basically comparing one evil to another evil. Theres always a lesser of two evils. "This fire ant is much bigger than this sugar ant" they're still ants....doesn't mean they're big, but compared to EACH OTHER....one is bigger. If this doesn't help you understand comparrisons I don't know what will. Good luck to you bro.
@cretiro - It is difficult to compare one person with a group of people. Alamo defenders were very different people. Some were good, some were evil. But it is not true that they were slave owners, because as settlers in Mexico they could not have slaves. They had contracted workers, which in practice was little difference, nevertheless.
@OlenkaWagner Wow....have I not mentioned "freedom to own slaves?" Why they were fighting so hard? As for the people, either they were slave owners or wanted to be slave owners. Most of the Texans were in fact "evil people" fighting for freedoms that are unjust as we see nowadays. The rest, which I admit there must of been some innocent people because there always is, were fighting the fight for "freedom" but they thought they were doing it for freedom for the individual man.
@cretiro - In any conflit each side has usually some good reasons and some bad reasons to fight. I am aware that not all the defenders were "angels", but it is also not true that the main freedom they fough for was the freedom to own slaves. I am afraid that my first impression that you try to replace one myth with a counter-myth was true.
@OlenkaWagner The fighting in Texas done by the Anglos was mostly for the right to own slaves. They wanted to bring Texas into the union as a slave state. That's the main reason why they were so resistant towards everyone else's ideals. They wanted their racist ways to be the way of life.
@cretiro - How do you know that the main issue was to own slaves. Where does your source come from? Also the whole issue of slaves must not be looked from the contemporary point of view. Of course, owning slaves was wrong, but in those times the situation of contracted workers might have been not much better.
@OlenkaWagner Theres always innocence, we can agree on that, but the big wigs in charge at the time had a different agenda. Its like their evil was hidden because they tried to erase it from history, and Santa Ana's evil was very much aware of because history teaches it repedatively. If you remember back in elementary...well basically through high school, did you learn anything bad about the Alamo defenders? or were they always portrayed as heroes? Iknowitseemssillynottoknowbuttheynotteachingit
@cretiro - I am not from US, I am from Poland, so I was not taught about the Alamo at school. For the first time about the Alamo I learnt from my English teacher who was from Texas. He presented facts, empahsizing that Texas was the only US state which had ever been a totally independent country.
@OlenkaWagner Thats good. I am from the United States. Well I am from San Antonio, Texas and have lived here my whole life. It's good your learning was not messed up because the education officals actually gave you correct information. But that also helps me understand that you don't know what I am getting at. Education here doesn't give you all the facts. They are ashamed of their past so they don't talk about it. Growing up, they teach people that these defenders are saints. Perfect heroes.
@cretiro - I think that there are two extremes: one is presenting everything connected with your history from the point of view of your country (US, Texas or any other country) and if your country did something wrong - trying to justify it or not to talk about it. This seems to be the point of view you say is present in Texas (I've read something about recent decisions on texbooks, but I haven't seen the textbooks).
@OlenkaWagner I'm not having a biased opinion on the matter. I'm glad things turned out the way they did. If Texas did remain the Republic of Texas though, things would be horrible. It turned out great that the union was able to defeat the confederacy. But there is still a lot of racism.....especially in Texas.
@cretiro - I've never been in Texas, so I don't know if there is any racism or not. From my European perspective I can see that there is racism in many places. This includes racism of white against non-white, but also racism of different non-white groups against white. But I've seen also oversensitivity to racism and confusing curiosity (maybe expressed not in a very nice way) with racism.
@OlenkaWagner How is it confusing that a bunch of union rejects(murderers, rapist, slave owners, "the alamo defenders") were racist? They certainly wanted to keep The Texas Republic and keep the ideals that went along with it so they fought hard for it. Ohhh those ideals were freedom and liberty...ohhhh I'm sorry, you're completly right man. Freedom and liberty for all! Texans are just angels. Always have been. They're tough and fight for whats right!
@cretiro - The opposite point of view is to look at your country as something evil, portraying people that were recognized as national heroes as just racist slave owners (completely disregarding historical context). I think both approaches are wrong. The truth have to be presented, but the truth and not reversely distorted version of history. I think the movie shown here keeps a good balance between the two extremes and was criticized from both sides.
@cretiro - so what don't you like about this particular movie? I mean just this movie (2004), not the other one. I know there are some inaccuracies (e.g. here it looks as if Santa Anna was captured at the or just after the battle, when in fact he was captured one day later), but these inaccuracies have nothing to do with racism.
@OlenkaWagner You don't see how these people are portrayed? It's not even accurate to say they died at the Alamo. archaelogist have found where their bodies actually ended up. They died running away from the Alamo
@cretiro - This is something I have heard from the movie that some (about 70) defenders tried to retreat and they were killed. But that does not change the fact that they defended the fort and died. And the rest died in the Alamo. BTW, the findings might not be certain either, because the bodies might have been moved. We know that they were unburried for a long time...
@OlenkaWagner Yeah I agree with you. But apparently theres methods these archaelogist use to find out how they died exactly...like if they were on the run and shot....I wish I had first hand proof myself. Apparently the ones that were there were too sick to move. But it makes more sense than around 100 anglo men killing around 700 mexican soldiers with 1 shot 1 minute reload rilfes.
@cretiro - But the losses of Mexican army were high, although probably not as much as the legend says. Of course this is not unusual, because defenders are better protected and usually able to inflict high losses. Even if your version was right - that does not change the fact that they fought and died and demand respect. They withstood for 13 days and it is acceptable that if the situation was hopeless they tried to retreat (if they did).
@OlenkaWagner But lets just say your version is correct.....they fought and died there.....they still were fighting for freedom to do all the nasty things they wanted to do.....especially owning slaves. I can't respect that.
@cretiro - You are taking things out of context. You picked up one thing - the fact that the State of Texas allowed slavery and try to convince us that the whole conflict was about that. The situation of many people in Mexico was not better (sometimes worse) than the situation of slaves, but was it OK just because they were not formally slaves?
@OlenkaWagner Thats what i said you were doing when we started this conversation..."picking one thing and focusing on it." Mexico was racist too. I never said it wasn't. But which one was worse? and was there racism on both sides? Think about it man. You're just trying to get away from these facts....all I'm doing is telling you that racism WAS A BIG DEAL. Yes it was...no matter how you want to look at it if you take out the racist part of these "heroes" then thats not right.
@cretiro - but racism is not the only criterion the conduct of both sides should be evaluated. You have other things having nothing to do with racism, but still very bad - look at the Goliad massacre (not mentioned in the movie). There was nothing equivallent on the other side...
@OlenkaWagner Point is racism is a big factor, probably the biggest. But I never credited out other things. A lot of people don't learn about how these guys were. They go down in history as heroes. Which isn't right. If you look at it tactically, what would be the Anglos first task in creating the Republic of Texas? "Lets get rid of those dirty greasers and savages, but lets keep the blacks because they make good slaves." Did that happen? Did it continue to happen even after slavery was illegal?
@cretiro - so how can you explain that quite a few Tejanos (like Juan Seguin, quite an important character in this movie) fought on the side of the "rebels". I remember when in the movie he says: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" (or something like that). But do you think it was his real motivation?
@cretiro - answering your (maybe rhetorical) question: you must know better, but looking at ethnic composition of Texasat present , you can say that did NOT happen, although maybe there were people who wanted that to happen. But the defenders of Alamo cannot be responsible for things that were happening later. There were about 200 defenders and each was different, so it is likely that their way of thinking was not the same.
@OlenkaWagner A person is smart, 'people' are dumb, and panicky dangerous animals. :P good Men in Black quote that goes along so well with this. I wish history could be weighed by the idividual...cause I don't wanna seem like a politically backwards Texan just because I'm from Texas. I'm sure some individuals did want freedom for ALL. But....we both know thats not what they got. Certainly didn't fight hard for it in the years after Texas independance either.
@zz13x We weren't talking in front of you. It was commenting, so it is very rude to say that actually. We stopped about two weeks ago, you are deliberatley being rude. Why can't you just choose not to read our comments or just look at the "2 weeks ago" sign and save yourself this provoked response comment. I will continue to respond to any comments I get by the way.
@zz13x how am i deliberately being rude? you are carrying on a conversation in front of the entire world to advertise your extreme lack of intelligence. and anyway, what else am i supposed to do while i wait for it to buffer
@OlenkaWagner i meant the other guy really. its not the topic i disagree with, its that you two are wasting your time with paragraph long messages that go on and on and on. also, i said "not to be rude" and he said " you are deliberately being rude", so obviously ha is an idiot
@X4SerioX4ese are you off your head? Do you actually wish to be represented historically by Santa Anna? It's a bit like Germans wishing to be represented by Hitler. Santa Anna was exactly the same as the Spanish colonials that came before, only worse; he was more unashamedly self-serving. His corruption could almost be overlooked if it weren't for his complete incompetence. He stood in the way of progress, he was a dirty murdering war criminal. He was a parasitic leach!!
something i never quite undertstood, A lot of Mexicans claim that mexico is better than America even though America beat Mexico in 2 wars and a lot of mexicans flee to America and still say Mexico is better
its not necessariy better as far as conquests or military, its more of a culture and outlook.kinda like the the pilgrims did when they left british tyranny to start anew. Mexicans like freedom also, not dictators as much as anyone else
Most of the people that say things like that, feel an ethnic loyalty to their country. I however, do not feel that way, I am born and raised in America, and i prefer America over Mexico.
there were many mexicans fighting for Texas and in the battles it became difficult to tell the difference many soldiers werent wearing uniforms in this battle and in the smoke (which this film does not show enoug of) it would be incredibly difficult to tell the difference without a marker of some kind
Viva Santa Ana 1# Santa Ana tambien fue como 13 veces presidente de Mexico. Santa Ana jamas firmo tal documento porque en los U.S.A. jamas se a mirado ese documento.!!!
@juancarlos0891 No estas incorrecto Texas, California, Nevada, y Nuevo Mexico,con Mexico. Mexico fuera una potencia mundial. Apoco tu cres que la cantidad de pobresa de Mexico son 100% Mexicanos.? No son 100% Mexicanos son del Sur de America de otro continente. Mexico es la 8# ciudad mas rica del mundo y la ciudad mas grande del mundo.
Segunda persona mas rica del mundo es Mexicano. Mexico tiene la 13# economia mas rica del mundo. Si piensas que Mexico esta jodido hechale un hojo a otros continentes como Africa, y Asia que tienen los paises mas pobres del mundo y comparalos con Mexico.
Esta es la pura verdad, no como la historia yankee, llena de mentiras, traduscan si ustedes lo desean.
Los mexicanos al estar acampando no dispusieron defensas apropiadas ni exploraron el terreno, los "texanos" simplemente los atacaron practicamente cuando estaban dormidos, es por eso que la pelea duro 18 minutos, ademas santa anna fue obligado y torturado a firmar su rendicion.
donde nos señalan de malos a los mexicanos cuando lo unico que haciamos era defender nuestra soberania nacional contra filibusteros y mercenarios que pretendian robarnos nuestra patria
Y si no les gusta lo que aqui digo ni modo, es la verdad.
This is always a problem impossible to be solved in an objective way. For one side it is the struggle for independence, for the other fight for the integrity of the territory. The same with Mexico against Spain. Spain also wanted to preserve integrity. The main thing that makes me not to like Santa Anna is his conduct. Things like the Goliad massacre.
Just about less serious thing: 7:32 - Juan Seguin is coming back to the Alamo and he still has a playing card on his hat. A symbolic meaning or just someone forgot about this detail? He did return to the Alamo, but a few months later, so it was unlikely he had his card still on.
Jesus people, enough with the stupid "if mexicans decided to fight us for mexico today" talk. That's the past. The US is on good terms with mexico. those of you saying mexico was stolen from, yeah, you're right, but history has to have a loser and a winner. those of you crying about the alamo, get over it, you have to lose sometimes too. you lost the alamo, won texas, lost little big horn, won the west, now it's over. let's look to the future and hope for peace. it's OVER, don't live in the past
TheSchoolWorld, you are right, but the specifics (and maybe the beauty) of virtual reality is that all the wars and conflicts are still going on, fortunately without bloodshed this time... On the other hand I think everyone should be aware of history and their identity.
Good message, TheSchoolWorld. Spread your message to the rest of the Mexican "sore-heads" on the internet that want a "re-match" with Texas and tell them to "Get over it" for the right reason.....the Mexicans got their asses kicked by people who believe in democracy, not a theft. GOD BLESS TEXAS!!!
Pinches gringous, pero un dia Mexico estara de pie para demostrarles lo ke en verdad es, y latinoamerica estara a su lado, los eu no podran contra nosotros los verdaderos americanos.......2012...muy pronto....
i agree about that guy saying that if Mexico tried to take Texas back it would be a different story we wont be out numbered or out gunned
and Mexico would quickly lose the war to like they did once to the Texans and again to the U.S.and BTW if Mexico had that huge army and still got beat by a small army of Texans and couple farmers with muskets I'm sorry they don't deserve there land back after a ass whooping like that especially if u had such a huge advantage
Amen brother, if the modern day Mexicans are that stupid to try it again against the citizens of Texas, they would have to "pack their sack lunch". This time it's Mexicans against Texans and other US Citizens armed with semi-automatic pistols, rifles (some fully automatic) and with pissed off attitudes. How bad do the Mexicans want it? I'm glad we as US Citizens live in the most armed Nation on the planet. Probably why the US to this date has not been taken by another country.
the mexican population in u.s is huge and all of them are preaty sore that mexico lost a large chunk of teritory so if they did try it they might win sorry I'm not trying to cause prblems but it's the truth.
This battle was never fought like in this movie...
dra1212 3 weeks ago
5:51 "smack , smack"
GuyPennebaker 3 months ago
Speak English
1995Pdr 3 months ago
5:05 fuck yeah
89andyman 7 months ago
Do you have this in English?
zz13x 8 months ago
@snakeyes105
I couldn't agree with you more. Very well said.
armyredneck58 9 months ago
stupids americans
horacio23ful 9 months ago
Suck it mexico
PacManGoneFluffy 9 months ago
mexicans are better than americans
mares260 9 months ago
epic tackle 5:04
dukeisthemaster 10 months ago
If you guys want to watch the English version, just type in Battle of San Jacinto-Remember The Alamo.
demeandr121 1 year ago
Its funny to read these comments. All these Mexicans talking trash about the U.S. Why then are they watching our movies? Why do they cross our border to come to America? You mexicans are a joke and inferior the the U.S. as this movie proves. Mexico sits right about where our a** hole would...so we can shit all over you. Wetback fools. Since you cant afford real sports such as football, go play some soccer (i.e futbol). And while youre at it sell some drugs and come dig me a ditch
snakeyes105 1 year ago
@snakeyes105 - the funniest thing is that the conflict was 175 years ago (this year there will be a sort of round anniversary of the Alamo and San Jacinto), but the emotions are still so strong (at least in YT comments)
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
vamos a seguir invadiendo lo que fue nuestro, aunque no nos quieran, nos odian pues al vernos, saben que estan en un terreno ROBADO.
arcangel1724 1 year ago
Ask the Yaqui tribe in Arizona how they feel about the Mexican government.
IanHunedoara8 1 year ago
el heroico ejercito mexicano derroto a loz reveldes sin las exajeradas bajas k los gringos inventan en sus peliculas... santanna era un pendejo ignorante x eso mexico perdio medio pais... en esos tiempos mexico tenia grandes generales cualkiera de ellos uviera defendido la patria mucho mejor.
burkecity 1 year ago 7
@burkecity lo sobornaron para dejarse ganar, porq ve lo que les hizo en el alamo pero Texas sigue siendo nuestro porque hay mas mexicanos que gringos y teniamos, tenemos y siempre tendremos mas HUEVOS que los gringos
TheUndertakerfan15 1 year ago
@burkecity ¿Cualquiera? Pues la mayoría de los generales mexicanos que participaron en esa guerra eran también unos ineptos.
Jevorkan9168 9 months ago
@burkecity Exajerado? Jjaja.. la vida real es mucho peor que en las peliculas..No seas ignorante.
danylk96 5 months ago
@burkecity
XD Mexican people make me laugh... can't you just realise that Mexica was never a great power ? If you want to be it one day, you'll have to admit you were weak in the past... Or you'll never progress.
Newwarp 4 months ago
@Newwarp you make laugh more!! frances ja ja ja xd xd!! esa expresion ez tan francesa ja ja!! y si mexico nunca fue una gran potencia militar no significa k no lo pueda ser no seas tarado.
burkecity 4 months ago
9 mexicans must have watched this video.
demeandr121 1 year ago
@demeandr121 im mexican and i love this movie
Mattavius96 1 year ago
@Mattavius96 Ok fine, 9 mexicans who follow Santa-Anna clicked dislike. You fought with the mexicans who were in The Alamo. Better?
demeandr121 1 year ago
@demeandr121 thats better lmao
Mattavius96 1 year ago
REMEMBER THE ALAMO!
REMEMBER GOLLIAD!
TEXAS SHALL HAVE HER FREEDOM ONCE THE CURSED SCOURGE OF AMERICAN IMPERIALISM AND THE GRASP OF THE DEPRAVED MEXICAN EAGLE HAVE BEEN CAST AWAY FROM HER, AND BANISHED INTO THE DECREPIT DEPTHS OF THE UNDERWORLD.
BLESS THE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS, AND BLESS THOSE WHO WISH TO SEE HER PROSPER.
cm2dude 1 year ago
the battle of the alamo the win MEXICO.
the damn gringos (Americans) can not take advantage
aztecabimiri 1 year ago
can someone translate this into english?
zz13x 1 year ago
I never thought the people of Texas were french.-
bbenjoe 1 year ago
this is the San Jacinto's battle
muppetbabyforever 1 year ago
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When you discover the truth about the Alamo it is a shocker! Bowie committed suicide and about 110 ran from the walls leaving their poor comrades (about 60-70) inside to die. Sam Houston tried to tell them to abandon the mission but a Captain Neil convinced them to stay and then he took off. It is all myth!
Deguello321 1 year ago
XD 5:06 was funny and awesome
713Dj281Screw832Head 1 year ago
lol fucked up symbolizm at 5:35, wetbacks crossing the border??
DaBearsManiac 1 year ago 7
@DaBearsManiac that is in fact where the term "wetback" comes from
Democrities 10 months ago
8 people who watched this video are mexicans
shinchan123450 1 year ago
@shinchan123450 Fuck you
5527455636 1 year ago
nOSTROS Los mexicanos Jugaremos que nos vengaremos los mataremos y Los destrosaremos, Por que aun mexicano jamas se le habla y se le deroba cosas El territorio mexicano se le regresa sin custodia alguna.
quevedo077 1 year ago
the battle is between TEXANS AND MEXICANS, NOT AMERICANS
tuggles32 1 year ago
@tuggles32 The war was between america and mexico. Texas would quickly become a state of america. So yes they are americans they planed to join america immediately
Neoguivre 1 year ago
wow. the only version of the ending is in spanish with french subtitles? that's great..
11jlewis 1 year ago
@ demeandr121: It's dubbed into French for the foreign market. :)
Xian1642 1 year ago
What part of Texas was this filmed in?
IoSonoUomo 1 year ago
san antonio and houston
jhim767 1 year ago
Isn't it weird? U find the best part of the movie, yet it's in Spanish.
demeandr121 1 year ago
@demeandr121 its not on spanish its on french
456024545 1 year ago
@456024545 Yeah it really doesn't matter. Etheir way you cant fuckin understan what the hell they're saying!!!!!
demeandr121 1 year ago
@demeandr121 true
456024545 1 year ago
One fact in the History book in the USA, if you add the numbers of Dead Mexican soldiers from every fight in texas, and at Mexico city. You get about 7000 deads. 7000# Still doesn't get close to 13000# number of dead White Americans who die in Mexico city. 13000# add deads of the Alamo number increases. More Americans die since the Alamo.
xSeriox4 1 year ago
@xSeriox4 american losses 13,283 soldiers mexico ~16,000 soldier
Neoguivre 1 year ago
@Neoguivre No Mexico only loss about 5,000 soldiers. The whites loss more than 13,000 is all over in the history book is also in Google you can search for it. In Google gives you the right numbers same thing in the history book.
xSeriox4 1 year ago
@xSeriox4 Inncorrect America lost 13,283 and mexico lost 16,000 from wikipedia CASUALTY FIGURES:United States-- 13,780 dead, many more wounded.
Mexico-- Much higher than the U.S. total. One figure put Mexican casualties at approximately 25,000.. that is from another site second one site google provide. Mexicos casualty figure is unknown but is without a doubt bigger then Americas
Neoguivre 1 year ago
@Neoguivre Does shame makes you tell lies huh? I saw the numbers my self. The Americans lost more lives than the Mexicans, you should look at what your saying because Americans attacked French people leaving 1000 dead French people in the Gulf of Mexico in the first battle.
X4SerioX4ese 1 year ago
@X4SerioX4ese Those aren't lies. You dont like the casualty rate to bad its the the truth. What battle are you talking about and what does the French have to with america and mexico .
Neoguivre 1 year ago
@Neoguivre Haha France immigrated to Mexico built a town near the coast of Mexico where the USA army first arrive. The town was protected by 500 Mexican soldiers while the rest of the town was innocent. The Americans attacked all of the town killing 1000 of the France people. The Mexican army retreated while in the USA army soldiers are splitting choosing sides. The 1000's of Irish USA soldiers decided to die next to the Mexican soldiers, and fight as one against all the USA army.
X4SerioX4ese 1 year ago
@X4SerioX4ese Again what is the relevance of this to the causality figure of mexico and america
Neoguivre 1 year ago
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@xSeriox4 you are full of shit
tuggles32 1 year ago
Mexico is better because men who had not being born in Mexico, and knew nothing about Mexico decided to die for Mexico. We can all celebrate St. Patrics day. Thats why Mexico is recognized as one of the better countries in the world. Richest men in the world is a Mexican.
xSeriox4 1 year ago
@xSeriox4 Your really think the things you mentioned makes Mexico "Better" country? Better than who or what? Let me just say that Mexico's economy is terrible, the crime rate is horrific, the government and police force is beyond corrupt, and the unemployment rate is embarrassing. So why is Mexico "better"? Is Mexico even good? Not being a smartass, just asking a "?"
Jimmycorvettefan71 1 year ago
@Jimmycorvettefan71 if your not Irish then you wouldn't know your self either. What I told you is the truth. I don't lie. Because you mentioned all of that what makes you think, you know everything when you are wrong.
xSeriox4 1 year ago
@xSeriox4 I am Irish and your English is pitiful at best. What the hell are you trying to say fool? I never said you were a liar. I just basically made you look like a dumbass. Your turn.
Jimmycorvettefan71 1 year ago
@Jimmycorvettefan71 I know your not Irish because am Irish/Mexican, and for what ever reason you don't sound accurate. Richest men in the world? Mexican, and thats why Mexico is better.
xSeriox4 1 year ago
@xSeriox4 You don't know shit, and your little comment about the richest man in the world being Mexican doesn't defend the rest of the reasons why Mexico is a shithole. I don't think there is a word to describe how stupid you are, so I will just call you Forrest from here on out.
Jimmycorvettefan71 1 year ago
@Jimmycorvettefan71 you writing words that mean piss. Why do you care about Mexico? Mexico is the best place for old western movies. Mexico is only a name!!!! Every one likes tacos (:
xSeriox4 1 year ago
@xSeriox4 Insulting your punk ass is like beating up a kid in a wheelchair, wrong and easy.. Ask your mother what i did to her taco. The best westerns were filmed in the four corners or Oklahoma. My opinion. Either way, Mexico is dirty and blows cock. Like your mum.
Jimmycorvettefan71 1 year ago
@Jimmycorvettefan71 are you a girl? You begin too bother me alot. Now I think your girl. Your moms vaina sweet pussy cat can sucked up. O_o Your mom is a dirty baby cock sucker. Tu eres un pendejo que te haces pasar por un irlandes y tu no eres ni mierda.
xSeriox4 1 year ago
@xSeriox4 SO much for Irish pride, I think the spic in you just fucked all that up. Go make me some beans so I have a full stomach when I give it to your mother cuntswaylow
Jimmycorvettefan71 1 year ago
@Jimmycorvettefan71 quick dorking your words, your pathetic pride means nothing to me. You think to much don't include me in your thinking. Do not think about me naked or your a pervert gay idiot who likes to bother.!!!!
Ignorance doesn't bother me.
xSeriox4 1 year ago
@xSeriox4 The only thing I'm "Quick Dorking" Is yo mamma's snatcharoo. Apparently my pride means something, cause you cant shut you "man pleaser." There is no such thing as thinking too much. And I only think about you when I think about videotaping me slamming your mom.
Jimmycorvettefan71 1 year ago
@Jimmycorvettefan71 your truely an idiot? Your lame. Your mom is sucking your dogs left nut when your not home you bitch.
xSeriox4 1 year ago
@xSeriox4 This is just sad, take your seat back on the short bus and tell your mom she forgot her panties on my bedroom floor again.
Jimmycorvettefan71 1 year ago
Santa Ana didn't exchange only his life, but Santa exchange his army capture men to be save as well with Santa Ana next to each other. To give up a fight, and still save many life. Santa Ana didn't let no Gringo alive in the Alamo. Not the same way at SanJacinto. Santa Ana walks away fine.
xSeriox4 1 year ago
@xSeriox4 because we werent savages unlike santa anna
FreeTexas100 1 year ago
5:03 Pwned. Watched clips of it in History class.
Lurtzman1 1 year ago
"Santa Anna signed over all mexican rights to Texas" what did that mean?
shinchan123450 1 year ago
Wow i love how the best part of the movie cannot be found in english!!!!
Hemzt34z 1 year ago
I didn't even know who the good or bad guys were
thelamestvidios 1 year ago
it all depends on who you ask
the Texans were fighting for freedom from Mexico
and Mexico then dictator Santa Anna tried to stop the indepandance movement
if youre judging good guy and bad guy on motives both had valid reasons for sessecion and invasion
however history shows Mexico was overly brutal and was known for being vicious to prisoners
they executed 400 unarmed men and commited countles other attroicies
so id say the Mexicans were the bad guys lol
edgehead31593 1 year ago
THIS IS NOT ENGLISH
modernwarrior1000 1 year ago
NO SHIT lol
edgehead31593 1 year ago
that how texans get when you treat them like shit
texaspatroit25 1 year ago
very true you do not want to piss us off
but we are actually very friendly people
adam15087 1 year ago 3
@adam15087 True. But when it comes to people we REALLY hate we are mercinaries.
demeandr121 1 year ago
Santa anna = traidor de la patria!!!..... esos nunca se perdonan y son los que se escupe en su tumba
charlesz3 1 year ago 2
@charlesz3 God bless Santa Ana for defending our lands.
X4SerioX4ese 1 year ago
@X4SerioX4ese Santa anna only lied to The americans and President Valentín Gómez Farías. After a failed attempt to conquer the newly independent Texas which quickly joined america
Neoguivre 1 year ago
@charlesz3 Santa Ana army fought for our lands against White squatters. Cuauhtemoc's Aztec army fought for our lands against Spaniards. Mexicans in Puebla fought for our lands against the White French. Sioux tribes Native of Americans fought for our lands against White squatters. Santa Ana did the same thing any other leader would had done.
X4SerioX4ese 1 year ago
@X4SerioX4ese are you off your head? Do you actually wish to be represented historically by Santa Anna? It's a bit like Germans wishing to be represented by Hitler. Santa Anna was exactly the same as the Spanish colonials that came before, only worse; he was more unashamedly self-serving. His corruption could almost be overlooked if it weren't for his complete incompetence. He stood in the way of progress, he was a dirty murdering war criminal. He was a parasitic leach!!
B3968 1 year ago
@B3968 I'm conquering exactly like Santa Ana. (God bless Santa Ana) I'm exactly like Pancho Villa because of this I'm not going to lose like the Natives of American. I admire Santa Ana. I admire the Sioux. For the USA it took years to take down Santa Ana because even when Santa Ana was cough, he was let go free men, you know that. Natives of American live in reservation's one of them is a desert second biggest. I'm Mexican. I'm taking back these lands. (God bless Santa Ana)
X4SerioX4ese 1 year ago
@X4SerioX4ese....................did you know that over 20% of the people fighting against santa anna were mexican and that they were from mexico? why do think that is? and did you know that the majority of hispanics in america hate mexico? and did you also know that 60% of hispanics support the arizona bill?
rdemario 1 year ago
@rdemario So what, if few brown men fought against their people. Pancho Villa, and Zapata did the same thing to take down the White Spaniards off the politics. The majority of USA support Mexico other wise we wouldn't be here today. Nortenos support Mexico. Natives of American in reservations support Mexico. Natives of Americans didn't support Arizona bill for a fact.
X4SerioX4ese 1 year ago
@X4SerioX4ese - So, you think it's about race. News for you: Why don't you read something once in awhile?
DesmondMead 1 year ago
@X4SerioX4ese Get over it you commie. * rolls eyes*
porterbehling 1 year ago
@B3968 Ummm progress of slave owners? Only reason the Anglos were so interested in Texas was because they wanted to practice slavery. They did not care to be part of the United States. They did not care for the way we live today. We're lucky Texas wasn't strong enough to do any more damage. If you learn actual history and not just elementary school myths you'll find out that Santa Anna was a good guy compared to any of the so called Alamo defenders.
cretiro 1 year ago
@cretiro - That's like saying that the soldiers in Afghanistan are fighting for gay marriage. If you think that in conflicts one side is always completely right and the other is always completely worng, then you are a not a very good student of history yourself, and maybe a simple minded fool.
DesmondMead 1 year ago
@DesmondMead Hmm? I don't think one side is completly good and the other bad. thats what I was trying not to say. I was arguing against that and trying to open people's minds so they can see that both sides are not fighting for freedom but for their own agendas. You don't have to argue against my intelligence because you have nothing to say man. It's okay you can just not respond at all.
cretiro 1 year ago
@cretiro - there are myths and counter-myths. Santa Anna a good guy? But what about the Goliad Massacre? He ordered killing the fighters who had surrendered. Do you think it was OK?
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner "compared to the slave owners that were called the Alamo defenders" I like how you take one little bit of what I was saying and challenge me on it. You're proving my point by doing that. People usually just look at a piece of history and focus on it and base their whole thought on the past on it. It's ridiculous. Santa Anna is not a "good guy" like I have said before. But yes compared to the Alamo defenders he can be considered a good guy
cretiro 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner Also if you don't understand comparrisions...I was basically comparing one evil to another evil. Theres always a lesser of two evils. "This fire ant is much bigger than this sugar ant" they're still ants....doesn't mean they're big, but compared to EACH OTHER....one is bigger. If this doesn't help you understand comparrisons I don't know what will. Good luck to you bro.
cretiro 1 year ago
@cretiro - It is difficult to compare one person with a group of people. Alamo defenders were very different people. Some were good, some were evil. But it is not true that they were slave owners, because as settlers in Mexico they could not have slaves. They had contracted workers, which in practice was little difference, nevertheless.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner Wow....have I not mentioned "freedom to own slaves?" Why they were fighting so hard? As for the people, either they were slave owners or wanted to be slave owners. Most of the Texans were in fact "evil people" fighting for freedoms that are unjust as we see nowadays. The rest, which I admit there must of been some innocent people because there always is, were fighting the fight for "freedom" but they thought they were doing it for freedom for the individual man.
cretiro 1 year ago
@cretiro - In any conflit each side has usually some good reasons and some bad reasons to fight. I am aware that not all the defenders were "angels", but it is also not true that the main freedom they fough for was the freedom to own slaves. I am afraid that my first impression that you try to replace one myth with a counter-myth was true.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner The fighting in Texas done by the Anglos was mostly for the right to own slaves. They wanted to bring Texas into the union as a slave state. That's the main reason why they were so resistant towards everyone else's ideals. They wanted their racist ways to be the way of life.
cretiro 1 year ago
@cretiro - How do you know that the main issue was to own slaves. Where does your source come from? Also the whole issue of slaves must not be looked from the contemporary point of view. Of course, owning slaves was wrong, but in those times the situation of contracted workers might have been not much better.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner Theres always innocence, we can agree on that, but the big wigs in charge at the time had a different agenda. Its like their evil was hidden because they tried to erase it from history, and Santa Ana's evil was very much aware of because history teaches it repedatively. If you remember back in elementary...well basically through high school, did you learn anything bad about the Alamo defenders? or were they always portrayed as heroes? Iknowitseemssillynottoknowbuttheynotteachingit
cretiro 1 year ago
@cretiro - I am not from US, I am from Poland, so I was not taught about the Alamo at school. For the first time about the Alamo I learnt from my English teacher who was from Texas. He presented facts, empahsizing that Texas was the only US state which had ever been a totally independent country.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner Thats good. I am from the United States. Well I am from San Antonio, Texas and have lived here my whole life. It's good your learning was not messed up because the education officals actually gave you correct information. But that also helps me understand that you don't know what I am getting at. Education here doesn't give you all the facts. They are ashamed of their past so they don't talk about it. Growing up, they teach people that these defenders are saints. Perfect heroes.
cretiro 1 year ago
@cretiro - I think that there are two extremes: one is presenting everything connected with your history from the point of view of your country (US, Texas or any other country) and if your country did something wrong - trying to justify it or not to talk about it. This seems to be the point of view you say is present in Texas (I've read something about recent decisions on texbooks, but I haven't seen the textbooks).
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner I'm not having a biased opinion on the matter. I'm glad things turned out the way they did. If Texas did remain the Republic of Texas though, things would be horrible. It turned out great that the union was able to defeat the confederacy. But there is still a lot of racism.....especially in Texas.
cretiro 1 year ago
@cretiro - I've never been in Texas, so I don't know if there is any racism or not. From my European perspective I can see that there is racism in many places. This includes racism of white against non-white, but also racism of different non-white groups against white. But I've seen also oversensitivity to racism and confusing curiosity (maybe expressed not in a very nice way) with racism.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner How is it confusing that a bunch of union rejects(murderers, rapist, slave owners, "the alamo defenders") were racist? They certainly wanted to keep The Texas Republic and keep the ideals that went along with it so they fought hard for it. Ohhh those ideals were freedom and liberty...ohhhh I'm sorry, you're completly right man. Freedom and liberty for all! Texans are just angels. Always have been. They're tough and fight for whats right!
cretiro 1 year ago
@cretiro - The opposite point of view is to look at your country as something evil, portraying people that were recognized as national heroes as just racist slave owners (completely disregarding historical context). I think both approaches are wrong. The truth have to be presented, but the truth and not reversely distorted version of history. I think the movie shown here keeps a good balance between the two extremes and was criticized from both sides.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner Did you actually watch the movie? :| Hah. Makes me believe you just like to comment and not watch the video.
cretiro 1 year ago
@cretiro - Actually I did and more than once, because I have a DVD disc with that. I've seen that the defenders were not presented as ideal people.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@cretiro - so what don't you like about this particular movie? I mean just this movie (2004), not the other one. I know there are some inaccuracies (e.g. here it looks as if Santa Anna was captured at the or just after the battle, when in fact he was captured one day later), but these inaccuracies have nothing to do with racism.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner You don't see how these people are portrayed? It's not even accurate to say they died at the Alamo. archaelogist have found where their bodies actually ended up. They died running away from the Alamo
cretiro 1 year ago
@cretiro - This is something I have heard from the movie that some (about 70) defenders tried to retreat and they were killed. But that does not change the fact that they defended the fort and died. And the rest died in the Alamo. BTW, the findings might not be certain either, because the bodies might have been moved. We know that they were unburried for a long time...
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner Yeah I agree with you. But apparently theres methods these archaelogist use to find out how they died exactly...like if they were on the run and shot....I wish I had first hand proof myself. Apparently the ones that were there were too sick to move. But it makes more sense than around 100 anglo men killing around 700 mexican soldiers with 1 shot 1 minute reload rilfes.
cretiro 1 year ago
@cretiro - But the losses of Mexican army were high, although probably not as much as the legend says. Of course this is not unusual, because defenders are better protected and usually able to inflict high losses. Even if your version was right - that does not change the fact that they fought and died and demand respect. They withstood for 13 days and it is acceptable that if the situation was hopeless they tried to retreat (if they did).
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner But lets just say your version is correct.....they fought and died there.....they still were fighting for freedom to do all the nasty things they wanted to do.....especially owning slaves. I can't respect that.
cretiro 1 year ago
@cretiro - You are taking things out of context. You picked up one thing - the fact that the State of Texas allowed slavery and try to convince us that the whole conflict was about that. The situation of many people in Mexico was not better (sometimes worse) than the situation of slaves, but was it OK just because they were not formally slaves?
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner Thats what i said you were doing when we started this conversation..."picking one thing and focusing on it." Mexico was racist too. I never said it wasn't. But which one was worse? and was there racism on both sides? Think about it man. You're just trying to get away from these facts....all I'm doing is telling you that racism WAS A BIG DEAL. Yes it was...no matter how you want to look at it if you take out the racist part of these "heroes" then thats not right.
cretiro 1 year ago
@cretiro - but racism is not the only criterion the conduct of both sides should be evaluated. You have other things having nothing to do with racism, but still very bad - look at the Goliad massacre (not mentioned in the movie). There was nothing equivallent on the other side...
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner Point is racism is a big factor, probably the biggest. But I never credited out other things. A lot of people don't learn about how these guys were. They go down in history as heroes. Which isn't right. If you look at it tactically, what would be the Anglos first task in creating the Republic of Texas? "Lets get rid of those dirty greasers and savages, but lets keep the blacks because they make good slaves." Did that happen? Did it continue to happen even after slavery was illegal?
cretiro 1 year ago
@cretiro - so how can you explain that quite a few Tejanos (like Juan Seguin, quite an important character in this movie) fought on the side of the "rebels". I remember when in the movie he says: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" (or something like that). But do you think it was his real motivation?
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@cretiro - answering your (maybe rhetorical) question: you must know better, but looking at ethnic composition of Texasat present , you can say that did NOT happen, although maybe there were people who wanted that to happen. But the defenders of Alamo cannot be responsible for things that were happening later. There were about 200 defenders and each was different, so it is likely that their way of thinking was not the same.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner A person is smart, 'people' are dumb, and panicky dangerous animals. :P good Men in Black quote that goes along so well with this. I wish history could be weighed by the idividual...cause I don't wanna seem like a politically backwards Texan just because I'm from Texas. I'm sure some individuals did want freedom for ALL. But....we both know thats not what they got. Certainly didn't fight hard for it in the years after Texas independance either.
cretiro 1 year ago
@cretiro not to be rude or anything, but can you both stop talking?
zz13x 1 year ago
@zz13x We weren't talking in front of you. It was commenting, so it is very rude to say that actually. We stopped about two weeks ago, you are deliberatley being rude. Why can't you just choose not to read our comments or just look at the "2 weeks ago" sign and save yourself this provoked response comment. I will continue to respond to any comments I get by the way.
cretiro 1 year ago
@zz13x how am i deliberately being rude? you are carrying on a conversation in front of the entire world to advertise your extreme lack of intelligence. and anyway, what else am i supposed to do while i wait for it to buffer
zz13x 1 year ago
@zz13x - does "both" include me? If you think any of us or both "advertise
extreme lack of intelligence" just tell us what you disagree with. I am open to hear.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner i meant the other guy really. its not the topic i disagree with, its that you two are wasting your time with paragraph long messages that go on and on and on. also, i said "not to be rude" and he said " you are deliberately being rude", so obviously ha is an idiot
zz13x 1 year ago
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@X4SerioX4ese are you off your head? Do you actually wish to be represented historically by Santa Anna? It's a bit like Germans wishing to be represented by Hitler. Santa Anna was exactly the same as the Spanish colonials that came before, only worse; he was more unashamedly self-serving. His corruption could almost be overlooked if it weren't for his complete incompetence. He stood in the way of progress, he was a dirty murdering war criminal. He was a parasitic leach!!
B3968 1 year ago
something i never quite undertstood, A lot of Mexicans claim that mexico is better than America even though America beat Mexico in 2 wars and a lot of mexicans flee to America and still say Mexico is better
marastar02 2 years ago
its not necessariy better as far as conquests or military, its more of a culture and outlook.kinda like the the pilgrims did when they left british tyranny to start anew. Mexicans like freedom also, not dictators as much as anyone else
alinsatx 2 years ago
Most of the people that say things like that, feel an ethnic loyalty to their country. I however, do not feel that way, I am born and raised in America, and i prefer America over Mexico.
illuminatijews 1 year ago
lmbo XD 5:03 don't use ur gun just tackle the dude!
churchchick620 2 years ago 6
Anyone else notice Crocketts Violen?
Otterfreak1 2 years ago 2
my great great great grandad fought in this battle
texaspatroit25 2 years ago
my dog's great great great grandad screw your ancestor. lololol
MultiWILLIE 2 years ago
@texaspatroit25 and I told you stupid idiot, my dog's dad rape your ancestor during the battle, you are a funny redneck, lololol
MultiWILLIE 2 years ago
somebody has the English version. I want to hear ´Remember the alamo!´
:D
5:04 That Officer nows, ´its over´, and than...Ouch...
And for everyone who doesn´t note, at 5:17, thats Crocket violin ;)
ViccardXViccc 2 years ago
I like the scenes 2:10 and 2:41. It is said to be true...
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
it was true
there were many mexicans fighting for Texas and in the battles it became difficult to tell the difference many soldiers werent wearing uniforms in this battle and in the smoke (which this film does not show enoug of) it would be incredibly difficult to tell the difference without a marker of some kind
edgehead31593 1 year ago
Santa Ana living in NY. Mr. Adams, and chiclet chewing gum.
odanak100 2 years ago
Yes, this is rather little know, but it is true. Mr. Adams became rich and Santa Anna was unable to make money out of this invention.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
REMEMBER THE ALAMO!!!
HockeyNut333 2 years ago
For those of you that don't know, "Fort Alamo Fin" means the end of the alamo.
zweg2 2 years ago
The end of the movie to be precise.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
viva santana!!!
aarronmacca 2 years ago
Viva Santa Ana 1# Santa Ana tambien fue como 13 veces presidente de Mexico. Santa Ana jamas firmo tal documento porque en los U.S.A. jamas se a mirado ese documento.!!!
xSeriox4 2 years ago
si texas fuera de mexico solo cambiaria que texas estubiera lo mismo de jodido que mexico
juancarlos0891 2 years ago
@juancarlos0891 No estas incorrecto Texas, California, Nevada, y Nuevo Mexico,con Mexico. Mexico fuera una potencia mundial. Apoco tu cres que la cantidad de pobresa de Mexico son 100% Mexicanos.? No son 100% Mexicanos son del Sur de America de otro continente. Mexico es la 8# ciudad mas rica del mundo y la ciudad mas grande del mundo.
xSeriox4 2 years ago
Segunda persona mas rica del mundo es Mexicano. Mexico tiene la 13# economia mas rica del mundo. Si piensas que Mexico esta jodido hechale un hojo a otros continentes como Africa, y Asia que tienen los paises mas pobres del mundo y comparalos con Mexico.
xSeriox4 2 years ago
si un pais quiere su independencia de un opresor tienen todo el derecho del mundo a luchar
sigmar110 2 years ago
Esta es la pura verdad, no como la historia yankee, llena de mentiras, traduscan si ustedes lo desean.
Los mexicanos al estar acampando no dispusieron defensas apropiadas ni exploraron el terreno, los "texanos" simplemente los atacaron practicamente cuando estaban dormidos, es por eso que la pelea duro 18 minutos, ademas santa anna fue obligado y torturado a firmar su rendicion.
Esta pelicula no es mas que una farsa
ELViejito100 2 years ago
donde nos señalan de malos a los mexicanos cuando lo unico que haciamos era defender nuestra soberania nacional contra filibusteros y mercenarios que pretendian robarnos nuestra patria
Y si no les gusta lo que aqui digo ni modo, es la verdad.
ELViejito100 2 years ago
Ademas, fue sam houston quien le salvo la vida a santa anna de la ira de las tropas, al protegerlo y darle buen trato, por si no lo sabian.
ELViejito100 2 years ago
Yes, Santa Anna in his memories wrote very favourably about Houston.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
This is always a problem impossible to be solved in an objective way. For one side it is the struggle for independence, for the other fight for the integrity of the territory. The same with Mexico against Spain. Spain also wanted to preserve integrity. The main thing that makes me not to like Santa Anna is his conduct. Things like the Goliad massacre.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
No su verdad, vivir con ella
disturbedspike 2 years ago
Si... Seguro....
ELViejito100 2 years ago
What exactly have you against this film? Some particular scenes you think are not correct?
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
No dices mas que la pura verdad. Fue un ataque sucio pero bueno asi son esas lcuhas con paises sin honor.
chuykhan 2 years ago
5:03 pure ownage
Reasons2BSade 2 years ago
hell yeah fuckin crushed
DBZPR0DIGY 2 years ago 2
AMEN! :)
xCRISISCOREx 2 years ago
Just about less serious thing: 7:32 - Juan Seguin is coming back to the Alamo and he still has a playing card on his hat. A symbolic meaning or just someone forgot about this detail? He did return to the Alamo, but a few months later, so it was unlikely he had his card still on.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
Jesus people, enough with the stupid "if mexicans decided to fight us for mexico today" talk. That's the past. The US is on good terms with mexico. those of you saying mexico was stolen from, yeah, you're right, but history has to have a loser and a winner. those of you crying about the alamo, get over it, you have to lose sometimes too. you lost the alamo, won texas, lost little big horn, won the west, now it's over. let's look to the future and hope for peace. it's OVER, don't live in the past
TheSchoolWorld 2 years ago
TheSchoolWorld, you are right, but the specifics (and maybe the beauty) of virtual reality is that all the wars and conflicts are still going on, fortunately without bloodshed this time... On the other hand I think everyone should be aware of history and their identity.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
Good message, TheSchoolWorld. Spread your message to the rest of the Mexican "sore-heads" on the internet that want a "re-match" with Texas and tell them to "Get over it" for the right reason.....the Mexicans got their asses kicked by people who believe in democracy, not a theft. GOD BLESS TEXAS!!!
gunfighter121 2 years ago
Pinches gringous, pero un dia Mexico estara de pie para demostrarles lo ke en verdad es, y latinoamerica estara a su lado, los eu no podran contra nosotros los verdaderos americanos.......2012...muy pronto....
alponchjsk 2 years ago
i agree about that guy saying that if Mexico tried to take Texas back it would be a different story we wont be out numbered or out gunned
and Mexico would quickly lose the war to like they did once to the Texans and again to the U.S.and BTW if Mexico had that huge army and still got beat by a small army of Texans and couple farmers with muskets I'm sorry they don't deserve there land back after a ass whooping like that especially if u had such a huge advantage
adam15087 2 years ago 2
Amen brother, if the modern day Mexicans are that stupid to try it again against the citizens of Texas, they would have to "pack their sack lunch". This time it's Mexicans against Texans and other US Citizens armed with semi-automatic pistols, rifles (some fully automatic) and with pissed off attitudes. How bad do the Mexicans want it? I'm glad we as US Citizens live in the most armed Nation on the planet. Probably why the US to this date has not been taken by another country.
gunfighter121 2 years ago
the mexican population in u.s is huge and all of them are preaty sore that mexico lost a large chunk of teritory so if they did try it they might win sorry I'm not trying to cause prblems but it's the truth.
MrLittlefredy 2 years ago