Occupy Orlando: Orlando PD Arrests Peaceful Protesters for Gathering Legally 10/22/11

[eseoficial]

They arrested a man in a wheel chair... they just earned the government an easy fine. Disgrace. This isn't animal planet. -.- Hope the man's fine, and well.

[ryancicocki]

Orlando doesnt take this shit.

[sccnws86]

GET A LIFE! I appreciate the right to a peaceful assembly just as anyone else...but half the people DO NOT even know what they are there for.

ALSO ... THERE WAS NO VIOLENT acts committed by the police. They are there to do their job, something most of the occupy Orlando protesters know NOTHING about! So get a life... LEARN the law..and Jesus... quit repeating yourself so much in the video! It gets annoying after the 1st 20 times.

[eseoficial]

@sccnws86 Are you an Orlando Protestor? have you even met them? You cant make false claims on a mindful opinion. I know a couple orlando occupiers and they sure as hell know what their fighting for, i'm from chuluota, small town being figuratively raped by the realty industry. when there are other land masses that are open for them. though i would love to join the march, i cannot due to financial issues. Protesting should not be limited by law. a protest is a protest, you should have your say.

[100crawma]

the 99% support the police

[100crawma]

wow there must be 25 of them

[100crawma]

occupy wall street is a epic failure

[eseoficial]

@100crawma epic failure... then you should call it the EPIC of all Epic Failures since its a global movement. A "Global Fail" if you will, with your logic. This Epic Failure in your mind is an Epic Wind for total global freedom of the monetary issues. Money does not run lives, it supports... You can pay everyday for fruit, or plant the seeds and wait for a plentiful harvest.

[dpowersfl1]

Do some research. Then actually read the Constitution. I am not here to educate you on things you should already know. You are the one holding the sign and you don't even know what the core issues are. All you are interested in is getting some biased narrative in a video to make OPD look bad.

[BeingDS]

@dpowersfl1 I want your numbers and facts, but you don't have any. You're the one spouting baseless rhetoric, not me. To prove me wrong, give me your facts and sources. If you can't, you're full of shit.

[dpowersfl1]

What would you like facts and numbers on? When a group puts out a list of demands that removes individual responsibility and lays the responsibility of cradle to grave entitlements that is Counter to the Constitution. Their list included the removal of property rights and guns. How much more counter Constitution do you get. Now try asking an honest question.

[BeingDS]

@dpowersfl1 You're talking out of your ass. The Occupation is not about the removal of 2nd Amendment rights or property rights, and I defy you to quote one source which says that it is about either. The Occupation is about income equality, government accountability to PEOPLE instead of money, an end to undeclared wars for corporate interests, and corporate accountability for the recession they CAUSED. Your imbecilic ravings are both irresponsible and patently untrue.

[BeingDS]

@dpowersfl1 And what I'd like numbers and facts on... IS EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID IN THIS THREAD. Stop making baseless attacks on the Occupation without facts. You say they're "Counter to the Constitution"? Ok. What SPECIFICALLY is against WHAT SPECIFIC PART of the Constitution. You're all talk and no facts. I want: The demand of the Occupation that ______, as quoted in ______, is against the ______ clause of the Constitution because _______. If you can't do that, then you're full of shit.

[dpowersfl1]

You can't be serious about standing behind the oath for this movement. Have you even read what the demands are? They are all counter to the Constitution. The domestic enemy is not the banks my friend. It is a runaway government. You are too stupid to even argue with. Don't go tossing out military deployments. You won't get any sympathy from me as I have been there and done that and in my view. You dishonor your own service.

[BeingDS]

@dpowersfl1 I dishonor my service? By... having an opinion that isn't state-sponsored? I agree that the government is out of control... it does serve the banks instead of the people... I'd be interested though, to hear some examples of tenets of the Occupy Movement which are "counter to the Constitution". I don't think you can list even one.

[dpowersfl1]

My original comment had to do mostly with the lie that you are spreading here by using a camera and a narrative and then claiming to be objective. I am just pointing out the bullshit. If you want to have an honest debate about facts and numbers, I will be more then happy to do that. Why don't you people try getting some facts instead of reading from a sheet that they gave you to read from. Try thinking for yourself for once in your life.

[BeingDS]

@dpowersfl1 Who's reading from a sheet? How sad it is that your Fox masters have convinced you so easily that you are the empowered one, when everything you're saying is directly off their episode scripts. Why don't YOU try thinking for yourself?

[BeingDS]

@dpowersfl1 Oh and BTW, I'd love to hear your "facts and numbers". I'll be waiting to see those.

[dpowersfl1]

You desecrate a flag that is not even representative of a government. This tells me how little you know about this country yet you want to hold a park hostage and spout about like mindless sheep because someone else told you to. You don't even know what the big piture is. Most of you don't even know what being poor is. Most of you have never left the comfort of the US Borders. It's not about you or what you think you are entitled to. Being an American is not a right.

[BeingDS]

@dpowersfl1 I desecrate? I am a six year veteran of three deployments, and I swore to defend the Constitution (not the government, not the politicians, not the law, THE CONSTITUTION) from all enemies, both foreign AND DOMESTIC. What that means is that when the freedoms we enjoy as a people are violated, I am duty bound to oppose that. And being an American IS a right of EVERY American, and we ARE entitled to every right that goes with that. Including the right to be heard by our representatives.

[dpowersfl1]

@Being DS. I don't have an issue with you protesting. I have an issue with the protest breaking the law. It is a "PUBLIC PARK" The protesters do not encompass the whole of the public. Basically what you are doing is breaking the law in order to force your values on the rest of us who do not agree with your silly little gathering that has no organization or direction. Most of you dim wits can't get beyond the first two ammendments of the Constitution. You have no idea of what this country is.

[BeingDS]

@dpowersfl1 The protest is not breaking the law. The law is breaking the Constitution. The First Amendment specifically states that the people shall have the right to peaceably assemble to petition the government for redress of grievances. The Constitution does't have posted hours, and supersedes all other laws, including those which establish posted hours. Therefore when people are exercising a specific Constitutional right, they are immune from limitation. ALL POLITICAL PROTESTS ARE LEGAL.

[dpowersfl1]

"They are using phyical violence on people are doing nothing but sitting on the ground". Would you care to show me that violence again? Would you care to retract the "objective" statement? There is nothing "objective" about this video.

[BeingDS]

@dpowersfl1 The violence is the part where people who are exercising their rights are picked up and hauled off by that corporate goon-squad which calls itself a police department, against their will.

[dpowersfl1]

I see that there is no interview with any of the cops, so how can you say that this is an objective view of what happened? If you want to be taken seriously, you need to tell the world exactly what you are protesting, what your solutions are in a realistic manner. Study who it is in Washington that needs to be replaced and take them out at the ballot box. I want change too, but I do not expect to be given anything for free.

[BeingDS]

@dpowersfl1 1. Cops are prohibited from giving interviews. 2. To stipulate that 99% of the entire population should all say the same thing or not be taken seriously is ridiculous. 3. The ballot box is controlled by the corporations and the super rich. Voting doesn't work, because they only give us options which they fix. Our system is broken and so can't be used to fix things. Take a look around and you'll see I'm right.

[dpowersfl1]

You think these cops wnat to waste their time arresting these people? If the park is closed at certain hours as a city ordinence then leave the park. The park belongs to all of the tax payers, not just the protesters. I disagree with the oocupy movement but believe they have a right to protest. However they should be made to follow the same rules as the law abiding Tea Party is forced to submit to when they organize. Breaking the law just makes the movement appear weak and it loses support.

[BeingDS]

@dpowersfl1 I don't care what the cops want. And here's what people aren't getting, so I'll put it in caps to emphasize it. THE PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO PROTEST. IT IS PROTECTED BY THE CONSTITUTION, WHICH IS THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND, AND IS IN EFFECT 24/7. CITY ORDINANCES ARE NOT EMPOWERED TO NULLIFY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. ANYTHING WHICH CONFLICTS WITH THE CONSTITUTION IS ILLEGAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL. THEREFORE, A CITY LAW PROHIBITING PEACEABLE ASSEMBLY IS INVALID. Try thinking things through.

[astrooman12345]

You parasites can occupy the jail

[BeingDS]

@astrooman12345 Can you explain to me why Occupiers are parasites? If you have a reason to dislike the Occupiers, why don't you show some integrity and say what it is, rather than sniping at us without any basis?

[inurtrash]

@BeingDS

Well, the Occupods ARE feeding off the public. That's parasitic.

[BeingDS]

@inurtrash The Occupiers ARE the public. As opposed to the 1%, who are doing the feeding. They pay us shit, gamble with the entire economy, get rich while we lose our livelihoods, and when they lose their game and it bites them in the ass, they come back and get bailed out with our tax money. The 1% are the parasites, not the 99.

[inurtrash]

@BeingDS

If you feel so strongly you have a case against rich people, take them to court. Camping in public parks and banging on drums does nothing but annoy the general public. At this point the 1% are laughing at you over the rims of their martinis.

[BeingDS]

@inurtrash What we're doing is raising awareness. Before Occupy, most people were not aware of what they rich were doing, and how insidious and systemic their actions were. Now, the people are awake, angry, and united. Taking the rich to court will not work, because they own the police and the judges and have tailored the law to benefit them to the exclusion of others. So they can laugh into their martinis all they want, because soon they'll be crying into them, when they have to share with us.

[inurtrash]

@BeingDS

And exactly how do you intend to make the rich share their wealth with you? Other than going through the courts, you have only one alternative and that's by force. The courts will cost you a ton of money and by force will cost you your freedom. It's fine to bring attention to issues, but you then need to organize to do something about it.

[BeingDS]

@inurtrash There's also the other option you're overlooking: Legislation. There needs to be an update to consumer and worker rights laws which will prohibit these levels of income disparity from continuing, and also updates to finance and tax laws which will prevent the kinds of irresponsible tax evasion and bad accounting which ruined the economy in the first place.

[inurtrash]

@BeingDS

Then you should go Occupy the legislators' offices. Ruining city parks will get you nowhere.

[rebelcavmedic]

Cut and dry. Disturbing the peace. Loitering, Destruction of public property, and general civil disobedience. Yeah its the Police that are wrong. None of these Occupiers will learn. Put them in jail then orange jumpsuits and let them clean their mess.

[BeingDS]

@rebelcavmedic Cut and Dry. The Constitution specifically guarantees the right to peaceably assemble and to petition the government for redress of grievances. That right is in effect 24/7/365, and is not subject to limitation by local ordinances. If they were having a kegger, yes, that would be trespassing. But they weren't. They were having a protest, which is specifically protected by the Constitution. Also no property was destroyed. Check your facts before you make accusations.

[rebelcavmedic]

@BeingDS See that is where you are wrong. You have the right to freedom of speech and expression. But if you impede on someone else's freedom. Like at night when they are sleeping and they are trying to get their kids to sleep that is not acceptable. Also if you violate local ordinances then you ARE also subject to arrest. I did check my facts. The park was nasty when it was over and that is unfair to the taxpayers to have to pay to clean it up because the protestors are slobs.

[BeingDS]

@rebelcavmedic What facts did you check? 1. The Occupation isn't over. It's still there, and will remain until there's justice. 2. The park isn't a mess. I've gone back there repeatedly and they clean up after themselves and have organized trash removal and sanitation.

Also FYI, the Constitution is the law of the land, which means that any law which conflicts with it is an illegal limitation on enumerated rights. The First Amendment is always in effect. Not just from 6am-11pm. Just a reminder.

[rebelcavmedic]

@BeingDS Sorry it took so long. I had some health issues. So what about the people who live in the area? Do they not have the freedom to get some sleep? The freedom to not have an occupation in their park? Because frankly, if that crap happens in a park near me. I am going to have a whole new freedom of expression. None of the parks I have seen have been cleaned until eviction, then parks and rec come in.

[BeingDS]

@rebelcavmedic A question and a clarification: First, how many Occupy parks have you personally seen, and which one(s)? Second, the purpose of the Constitution is to protect our rights from the preferences of a majority. The Occupiers have the right to assemble and if that rights are subject to nullification at the whims of others, then it's not really a right that we have. So no... the right of a homeowner to "get some sleep", should not trump the First Amendment freedoms of the Occupiers.

[rebelcavmedic]

@BeingDS Just as I can watch the videos the protestors put up. I can watch the videos of the aftermath put up by the people who actually have to clean up after them. By the way you are wrong no one has the right to infringe on the rights of another. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say you get to run your mouth at the cost of others freedoms.

[ReligionisaCult]

1:24.. Occupy wall street not Palestine sign. Nice.

[inurtrash]

These are elementary school children who never grew into adulthood. They can only parrot the communist inspired chants of their so called leaders.

[BeingDS]

@inurtrash When did the free exercise of specifically-enumerated Constitutional rights and the insistence that our government work for us instead of taking bribes become Communist? Also, just maybe before you criticize others for parroting back slogans, you should try and have an opinion that you didn't plagiarize from Fox News.

[inurtrash]

@BeingDS

The Occupy crowd wants to steal from the rich so they can repay their college loans. That's communism.

[BeingDS]

@inurtrash Stealing? How about crashing the world economy with unsafe investments designed to enrich the few while destroying the livelihoods of everyone else? That sounds more like stealing to me, and it's what the banks and the rich did... and got rewarded for with bailouts the rest of us paid for. You're clearly watching too much TV and paying too little attention. I can tell because you seem to think, as they want you to, that anything which advances the public good must be Communism.

[radelta]

the "occupy" movement are such idiots. Peaceful protest will not get you anywhere unfortunately. violence and revolution is the only solution. too bad rich hipster kids dont care about that. they just want to look hip and cool

[BeingDS]

@radelta So you want us to start a Civil War? Yeah, that'll be GREAT for the economy!

[MrOrlandobob2]

what are the police names? The world is watching

[AlexanderMazarakis]

I didn't know that you could be forced to leave public land.

[inurtrash]

@AlexanderMazarakis

Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Most city parks have anti-camping ordinances.

[BeingDS]

@inurtrash The only people ignorant of the law in this case are the police. The Constitution specifically says that the RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE PEACEABLY TO ASSEMBLE SHALL NOT BE ABRIDGED. Therefore, the people have the right to protest anywhere they want, anytime they want, and any city ordinance about hours doesn't apply. The purpose of those ordinances is to stop skateboarders and keggers. Protests are specifically immune to any lesser law. You really should read up before you run your mouth.

[BeingDS]

@inurtrash Anti-Camping ordinances < The Constitution. People have a Constitutional right to protest peacefully. Our rights don't end just because some random municipal functionary shoves a sign in the dirt. If they did, then what would be the point of having rights?

[inurtrash]

@BeingDS

Boy, do you have a lot to learn about legal issues. I guarantee you city ordinances against overnight camping in city parks are considered legal in all courts. Cities can also enforce traffic laws, code enforcement ordinances and other local regulations, all under the purview of the First Amendment.

[BlackHoward5]

man this is gettin to a tipping poin all over the world

[PissedOffChurchLady]

This park is owned by the city taxpayers. The Chamber of Commerce a stone throw away, on prime property pays $20.00 a YEAR and zero property taxes. This type of cronyism is state wide, while we are laying of thousands of teachers.

[BeingDS]

@PissedOffChurchLady They only pay $1 a year. They got the property for $20 from 1997-2017.

[JJJadm]

Like John Lennon said, "Viva la revolucion"

[DAWATCHMEN]

Skizla is a globalist ignorant and unconscious don't respond to the disinfo

[anangryfellow]

we need more people to come out and stand up to wall street and their hired thugs!

[whackybarbiedoll]

Was it because they were disrupting the peace? That's cause for arrest.

[BeingDS]

@whackybarbiedoll They were sitting in a circle holding hands. They were exercising their Constitutional right to gather peaceably. So no, there was no cause for arrest.

[Marblemania]

Cops are brainwashed, corporate guards. Put in place with OUR money to keep us from fighting bac,.Fuck the police and the corporate greedy traitors that control them.

When the cops act like corporation  protectors they deserve what they get and it's coming to bite them on the ass sooner than they think.

[noctumatt]

Cops are automaton cowards. There is no honor in this.

[llg4ever]

So a guy in a wheel chair is a threat to those idiot cops, oh my god - what happened to this country??? 

[rebelcavmedic]

@llg4ever That would be the equality you want at work.

[Skizla]

Was the park closed?

[BeingDS]

@Skizla I don't know if you remember civics class, but when a lesser law conflicts with a Constitutional right, it is Unconstitutional and is therefore invalid. People have the right to gather peaceably. That is guaranteed in the Constitution, and no city or State is empowered to cancel out that right with a local ordinance. So it doesn't matter that the park was closed. People have their rights no matter what time of day it is.

[Skizla]

@BeingDS Are you dense? Just because you think something is unconstitutional doesn't give you the right to go out and break the law. There are the proper channels to go through in order to change laws that are seen as "unconstitutional". You don't just go and do whatever you want. Do you remember that in civics class?

[BeingDS]

@Skizla Are YOU dense? People have a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to peaceably assemble and to petition the government for redress of grievances. That is a basic fact. It's not up for debate or interpretation. The Constitution doesn't have posted hours or anything in it which makes it optional based on the preferences of local governments or police forces. Gathering peaceably is LEGAL, 24/7/365, because the Constitution guarantees ALL PEOPLE the INALIENABLE RIGHT to do so. How much clearer can it be?

[Skizla]

@BeingDS Oh ok, so the Constitution guarantees freedom of speech, but why is it that I can't say "BeingDS is a cunt-faggot douche retard fuck stick" on national television? You are either horribly misinformed, or you are 15 years old and trying to sound smart. If I were in a public park, and the hours are from 8:00 AM to 8:00 PM, officers have the RIGHT to ARREST my ass for TRESPASSING if I am there beyond the posted hours. The Constitution has nothing to do with it. At all.

[BeingDS]

@Skizla Yes. The Constitution guarantees you the right to say that. Whether the station chooses to air it is another question. But the point is that you wouldn't be arrested or jailed for exercising your right to free speech.

The great thing about the Constitution, and one of the things which made it revolutionary when it was written and continues to make it special today is that it guarantees our rights at all times, whether to government likes it or not. No king can take them away, ever.

[TheStormchaser1]

@Skizla And, also Skizla if hours are posted majority of the parks are owned by PRIVATE OWNERS. If the Protestors want to protest all they want to in the park.... PAY THE OWNER!!!! Owner would be happy to have money given to to him/her so they can keep the park looking better and constantly clean and hire more people. These Occupation Movements go everything against what they are for. They want more jobs PAY TO PROTEST!!!! These protestors are HYPOCRITES!!!

[BeingDS]

@TheStormchaser1 Last I checked, it wasn't hypocritical for a person to exercise his or her rights. The park is owned by the City, and is thus Public land. Why in the world should people have to PAY MONEY to use their rights? And we do pay the 1% every day. They get our tax money, trillions of dollars of it, and I don't see many jobs. So I don't think that paying them a few hundred bucks is going to change anything. And also, who the hell ever heard of people paying to have jobs? That's dumb.

[TheStormchaser1]

@BeingDS Last I checked disturbing neighbors, littering, defecation on the street is ILLEGAL. That park is now disgusting due to all the litter bugs. These protestors are worse than rodants.

I watch Federal job postings all the time. It is not my fault you are all criminals and can't get a Federal Agency job, non-military.

How do you think businesses pay their employees? Without customers there is no money and with no money there are no jobs. Take Economics 101. You are dumb.

[BeingDS]

@TheStormchaser1 What protest have you been paying attention to? There has been no littering or public defecation. Those are baseless accusations and show how desperate you are to say something bad about the Occupation simply because Fox News has told you not to like it.

You're clearly unhinged.

[Adanielnew]

Show me what oppression looks like. This is what oppression looks like.