You already see the cut (opened gash) from the side of the dear, plus the fact the animal was already cleaned -insides, so that means no internal organs to slow down the blade -slightly.
The thing was already cut open in the front and basically it was just a hollow shell with one piece of bone (spine) to get in the way.
I’m not saying that a long sword couldn’t do it, just not a cheap knock-off novelty mantle piece.
Most "medieval swords" are clunkers meant for display. A lot of katanas, as well. Honestly, the guys at Cold steel make a great hand-and-a-half sword that even Lynn Thompson, the owner, admits cuts just as well, or better, than any katana.
Great vid, guys. Nothing more fun than cutting the crap out of stuff with swords....Unless it's blowing stuff up! But even that's not "hands on" enough sometimes. Love the Grossmesser!
Excellent Video with the hand and half sword. It is know as long sword later century but don't confuse it with like the old 9th century Viking long sword they are two different animal. Broad and long are merely descriptions of the blade length which varied through out the century's :P
pretty badass, ive done this every year at deer season. fastest way to quarter one ;D but i leave the fur on when i do it. better test. thats awesome seeing a longsword cleave it in half. some poison for the anime fanboys who think only katana can cut through shit
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THE CARCASS WAS ALREADY CUT CLEAR THRU EXCEPT FOR A TINY SLIVER BEFORE THE CUT! LOOK AT THE SLOW MO! FAKE! YOU SUCK DUDE IVE DONE IT FOR REAL! WHAT A FAG.
Jeez those whitetails have a lot of fat on them, i hate living in Oregon and having to eat of these skinny blacktails, oh by the way nice cutting video.
That second cut wit the kriegsmesser would have halved it if he'd been standing a bit closer. As it is what it did would be just as fatal as being cut in half. Don't know why some people are wanking over which is better. A sword is a sword. they each have their own uses, roles, and specialities. There is no best sword.
Continued: So, the cut didn't technically "cut it in half" but it cut through all the bones and meat (none of which were cut beforehand). What little skin there was left between my cut and the gutting cut just tore off.
-I delivered a very strong cut because I didn't know how it would resist, so I gave it all I had (but for my broken rib at the time).
-The messer was a crappy MRL, and the longsword was a clunky but sharp Del Tin. Even the messer cut severed the bones of the spine.
Hey people, I'm the guy who cut with the longsword, and I'll try to answer a few things I saw here. Don't ask me anything because I don't spend any time on this kind of thing on the internet, and I won't see your questions.
The deer was gutted, i.e. it's stomach skin was split under the ribs on the belly side. I cut it with the spine facing me. The sword only reached about half-way through with my cut, cutting underneath and on the opposite side of the stomach skin cut (as you can see).
The Japanese used to do this with their Katana, to see if it was battle ready, if you could a cleave a man in two through the middle of the abdomen, your sword was worthy.
Yes Katanas can be shot and split bullets, but so can knives, trick shot artists have long used knives and axes to split a bullet to hit two targets. Lead is soft- now an armor peircing bullet, not so easy
Hilarious comments! Apparently what you experts are saying is that if this were a living person they'd have only been cut slightly in half. "Tis but a scatch" to quote the Black Knight. The power of the sword isn't just about cutting power, there's blunt trauma as well; broken bones, sub-dermal bleeding, shock.
Well of course european swords are very capable of chopping things in half. However it cannot be discounted that japanese katanas are proven to be unblunting, razor sharp and very difficult to break even with a machine gun firing it.
@MrMasterful13 Unblunting? Untrue. Even regular tameshigiri will eventually blunt your katana and it will need to be repolished (sharpened). That's just part of regular maintenance. Any well-tempered blade will resist bullets along its edge, since bullets are made of lead which is much softer than steel. :)
Surpricingly easy. What is hard is cut half a rope, which only hangs : It yields darn much. Cutting through pumpkin or bamboo mat is hard, but not insanely hard. But through piled floppy wraps of newspapers is hard: It just bends. Cutting it is insanely hard.
They probably took multiple swings at it, but yes, in the slow motion at the end it's clearly visible that he doesn't cut through that flap of skin and it falls in two because it's cut on the other side as well.
His distance was short, and he only hit with the tip.
Actually it is important to hit with a tip. Longsword is not curved for slicing same way than japanese. It is simple matter of physics : Force is about the speed and weight what you put behind it. Sharpness is important in putting the effect in a smaller area.
@TuomoHamalainen, no actually you are supposed to hit with the point of percussion of a blade, and that is not the tip. It is about two-thirds down the length of the blade towards the tip, the point of maximum impact where the maximum force is transferred to the target. The "sweet spot". THAT is physics applied at a higher level. And swordsmanship, as well. Like I said, he cut short (like many people who practice western swordsmanship, I might add).
In that point you are totally right. I just don't like "overdo" things in place like YouTube. Too little marks and stuff. In easterns style the sword is not as impactlike, so they propably hit naturally nearer, and in european (like myself) it is too easy to hit too much just with point. (Not slash, just impact.)
And in my main message: ... I think most of all he hit with "overdoing". Distance is actually too long and he must do terrible long step and swing. Back is not straight - he must do it to hit the target. He hit with the point, but I think it is only a partial hint for different thing. I believe this is because hitter was a bit nervous in hitting meat with bones.
So I would not jab about the point. I would say "Hit from shorter distance". Back and hitting would do better.
Then the accuracy should be insanelly good. When it is looked near after the cut it is clear that slices are consistent. That means that the angle of hit and place to hit is so darn right that it itself is an mystic skill. I believe that partly this go half jus becouse the weight (and point of balance) of deer. Cutting is starting point, and when there is no bone to keep it structured the remaining bits just broke - they have (alone) not force enough to keep the body together.
the reason you can't have a dead animal on hand for long without gutting it is that as soon as it dies it begins to break down and rot, organs will poison the meat as this happens. that is why you "can't" take an ungutted deer out of the woods. it isn't illegal or anything just not too smart.
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Well, it's impressive because he cut through the spine. However, if you look at the carcass right before he cuts it you can see on the right side that it has a slice through it already.
Thats where they gutted it; spilling the contents of a dead animals stomach and intestines is not very pleasant. As you correctly point out though, cutting through the spine and the muscle around it is a challenge still.
this was a good test, I'm an amuture blacksmith, and I can see where makeing a sword to be able to do THAT (even though the deer was gutted) would take a while to properly forge. 5/5!
Well, as you can see, the longsword strike didn't cut the carcass in half, but just sliced through some bones, other bones must have been cut by grossmesser earlier. You can see that sword landed only on the half of the carcass.
Also, dead meat is easier to cut than living flesh.
No, the sword cut through the entire deer carcass, though gutted. (You can't really transport an ungutted deer out of the woods, so it was necessary i assume)
@Ranziel1 : only if it's reached a state of rigour mortis. Living bone is, however, quite a bit softer and easier to cut than dead bone, so it evens out.
@Ranziel1 it doesn't matter. Deer muscle is entirely more dense than human tissue. especially as soft as the modern ass sitter is. i am quite sure the results would be the same on a human with organs intact inside the torso cavity.
Great sword test. I actually read a comment a while back in another forum claiming that you could not actually cleave a man in two with a sword. I guess this settles it then.
I hope you ate the meat, as that's otherwise a waste of a good deer.
As an armature knifemaker, and a wantabee sword maker I fully understand the importance/significance of these tests. What steels and edge profiles are used in these swords, any damage? The biggest challenge is bone. A razor sharp sword could cut miles of skin and muscle, but if the edge chips/curls on bone its useless, especially on contact with armor. Tradional katana's would chip easy in the hands of an amature. hide/hair is tougher to cut than clothing, guts/blood act as a lubricant.
I don't know how you'd be able to get a deer, with the guts still in, unless you kill it yourself.
Even then, you'd have to remove the guts, soon after the kill, as they'll start to rot pretty quickly, so the only reasonable way to do it with the guts, is to cut it, right after having killed it.
Not something easily achieved...
Still, I doubt that the guts would affect the cut that much, so it's not that important.
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well I believe my own eyes before some random dudes on youtube. It looks like a japanese sword to me. and NO eurpeon sword could of sliced that deer in two in one chop. No way in he*l.
LOl, the first sword used is an archetypal european longsword, can't see anything remotely japanese about it. The second sword used is also european, called a kriegsmesser(which does somewhat resemble katana, but check the crossguard), I think it's an albion knecht.
Face it, that is a pure european sword that just cut a deer in half, and it's not really surprising, except if you are anime fanboy who thinks that katana is some superior sword and the only one capable of cutting something.
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"Face it, that is a pure european sword that just cut a deer in half"
No problem with that (aside that it's not a deer but a carcass that's about 20% of one), but do you notice the body action? It's slow, vulnerable and predictable...you could get two stabs in by then.
@Konane12 Anime boy or not, i want to buy a katana for my personal reasons.
Being one of them the fact that i like the art itself and the "sport".
One other reason is the fact that you wont find many schools out there to teach you longsword.(yes you can learn threw the internet, but the knowledge possible to gap within proper teaching from a teacher is far supperior as expected).
Honestly i'd love to learn both and make my own way of weilding both.
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This is a fake video. He is using a katana. A european sword would just hit the deer like a club. You see clearly when the big person cuts later in the video, it is katana. They try to take honor for european sword, by tricking and using katana instead
Wow, you really can't admit that european swords can cut too?
First of all he is using two different swords. The first is a Longsword and the second is a Messer (a single edged German sword). If you read the subtitles you would know this.
If you choose not to believe their subtitles perhaps you will believe you're own eyes: Look carefully at the sword he used first. You'll notice it is straight (see 0:18 and 1:23). If you look closely at the second sword you will see that it is slightly curved (see 1:04). These are two different EUROPEAN swords. And last time I checked Katanas don't have cross-guards.
pretty good I guess... but in the next vid both those guys should duel instead of hitting a dead corpse... now THAT would really demonstrate how effective a sword is.
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cheat if you watch the right side of the carcass its already cut he only cut a little bit what a crock dont believe me watch it in full screen and watch the right side where he cuts its already cut before he does it
The deer was already gutted. That shouldn't be a suprise. The sword still cut right through the spine and about a foot of muscle. Not bad in my opinion.
first off, lol duh innards and skin would make a difference you moron XD, and second, im saying cutting through a spine and 5 inches of meat is frigin easy to do even with a blunt piece of metal, like my machete.
well if you cut a large undressed fauna straight through from shoulder and across going down ward that would be very impressive. and yes sorry for being a bit mean, but yes this isnt a hard thing
Oh damn, why don't you go then and bitch in all those videos who don't just imply, but flat out tell how cutting something is a huge deal. I'm sure you won't have problem finding those, for starters try watch?v=Z8sSi1DyVcA&feature=related
lol i only left one comment your the one that got all pissy over it XD. and im not bitching, i never bitch i laugh lol, some things (and people ;) ) are so stupid its just funny as hell lol
That's because a longsword is a bastard sword, and the one-and-half sword as well. Originally it was the same thing. It was devided later for needs of some crappy D&D systems - -'
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ha ha ha thats great yeah i just hated seeing these loosers with there nerd swords trying to be cool I PWN THEM ALL MUAHAHAHAHA!!!~! but yeah its good to hear other ppl are pwning noobs that suck ass
Last Thursday my instructor beat the crap about of my friends that went to look. What they did is pick up a wooden sword and they challenge him. Big no no! (3 vs 1)
They were in shock and were not hart too badly; every thing was cool, but they were in shock! He could had easily put them to the hospital! But they were just fine! They have new respect for this now!
Also they thought it was cool & fun, they are thinking to join!
I agree with ARMA's general thesis that Euorpean swords are underrated, but the first carcass cut in this vid isn't realistic. A real human would have the ribcage and abdomen filled with dense and squishy guts. This would greatly dissipate the energy of the sword cut.
Even so, an all out blow to the lower ribs with just about any kind of sword ever used for slashing in real combat would fell an opponent.
If you could mess with your opponent's balance you could get a good swing in! Other then that it was short, fast strikes followed by a dragging or drawing motion to cut deeper, these were aimed at muscles, tendons, and arteries. Cutting through cloth is surprisingly hard to do, but stabbing is easy. This among other things is what made the stab so often used. Armor made cutting nearly imposable without a lot of training and experience.
For people's information, Casper did indeed cut through the deer in one stroke. As was noted above, the dressing of the deer gave the illusion that the deer was already cut half way through.
Casper did this with a broken rib, and thought he'd have to put much more power into the cut than was required. That's why he powered through like he did.
"As was noted above, the dressing of the deer gave the illusion that the deer was already cut half way through."
It WAS already cut, which is clearly seen before the cut is made, after the cut is made, and if you pause the vid at exactly 1:30 you will see that Casper's cut only reaches half-way in (and slightly below) the previous cut. Casper seems to be cutting the spine, though, which is impressive enough.
I don't know what property of anatomy causes this, but I have noticed that dead tissue (like the deer carcass) is considerably easier to cut than live tissue.
That's because there are several factors where humans are concerned.
1. They weren't dead. They're not standing still. Live muscles are tensed which also aids in resisting cut-through. Plus, the deer had no flesh (AKA leather) which would reduce the effectiveness as well as it's organs.
2. In the major conflicts which were big enough for scribes combatants commonly wore armor which seriously reduces the cutting potential.
There are accounts of cleavings within the viking eddas however.
You are right about fighting being fast and efficient. Cutting is highly efficient. Though used frequently, thrusting isn't guaranteed to disable or kill.
Most swords were made for cutting. There are quite a few training manuals left over from the time period, and they focus on cutting except in the presence of metal armour. There one has to thrust, and the types of swords designed for defeating armour have different geometries (stiff and pointed vs. flatter and sharp edges).
aah, the second guy didnt hit the deer far enough on the blade for the tip to reach the back portion of the deer.. the part of the blade that did make contact went all the way through, he just didnt hit deep enough
I hate to poke holes cause it looks cool, but he didnt cut in half in one strike, if you looks closely at the start on the right hes cut it half way through already, shame cause it does look cool
To spite the East Versus West stuff that IS here, I'm actually surprised there isn't a bunch of "Yeah but my Katana can slice through a boulder!" BS connected to this video... Flabbergasted... Actually.
Could it be that people are learning to leave their anachronisms where they actually held influence? *GASP*
"We have no illusions of what the fighting men of the past were like. They fought to defend the things they held dear, and through their bloodshed they allowed Western Civilization to survive despite constant attempts to destroy it."
So yes, who was trying to destroy Western Civilization?
Looked like the deer was already cut on one side, and you cleaned up on the other with the Medieval long sword.
Tsujimoto360 3 weeks ago
Try that with a cow/horse leg. I bet you wouldn't have much of a sword left.
rlmcviii 3 weeks ago
nice clean cut
Tammtam 2 months ago
@ Casper - nice technique.
Daelmyth 2 months ago
I noticed at the 13 second mark it appeard that the carcass was already cut partally on the side.
MrDwaynedavis 3 months ago
pause to 0:13
You already see the cut (opened gash) from the side of the dear, plus the fact the animal was already cleaned -insides, so that means no internal organs to slow down the blade -slightly.
The thing was already cut open in the front and basically it was just a hollow shell with one piece of bone (spine) to get in the way.
I’m not saying that a long sword couldn’t do it, just not a cheap knock-off novelty mantle piece.
TheDardanianKnight 4 months ago
heh katana can kiss my ass i prefer a good kitchen knife on that
SoulRipper66 5 months ago
fat dude failed
MrJtswish13 5 months ago
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wow big deal
fdr100100 6 months ago
Most "medieval swords" are clunkers meant for display. A lot of katanas, as well. Honestly, the guys at Cold steel make a great hand-and-a-half sword that even Lynn Thompson, the owner, admits cuts just as well, or better, than any katana.
gun00b 7 months ago
the second dude faild :D
SweStuff94 8 months ago
carcass was partially cut before the sword strike.
iiiiiiiiiiii 10 months ago
Great vid, guys. Nothing more fun than cutting the crap out of stuff with swords....Unless it's blowing stuff up! But even that's not "hands on" enough sometimes. Love the Grossmesser!
BigSkippy1263 10 months ago
why the fuck did the second guy just "scratched" the pig o.0?
Intheend4226 11 months ago
EURO SWORDS FTW!!! Fuck that Japanese shit!
LaCosaNostra132 11 months ago 2
This is Thrand!!!
Excellent Video with the hand and half sword. It is know as long sword later century but don't confuse it with like the old 9th century Viking long sword they are two different animal. Broad and long are merely descriptions of the blade length which varied through out the century's :P
ThegnThrand 1 year ago
pretty badass, ive done this every year at deer season. fastest way to quarter one ;D but i leave the fur on when i do it. better test. thats awesome seeing a longsword cleave it in half. some poison for the anime fanboys who think only katana can cut through shit
xxwes997xx 1 year ago
Katanas are great and all, but they aren't the only swords that can cut.
luismelhernandez1974 1 year ago
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THE CARCASS WAS ALREADY CUT CLEAR THRU EXCEPT FOR A TINY SLIVER BEFORE THE CUT! LOOK AT THE SLOW MO! FAKE! YOU SUCK DUDE IVE DONE IT FOR REAL! WHAT A FAG.
xxwes997xx 1 year ago
that was one hell of a chop.awesome
trialsrider001 1 year ago 3
When your dad finds out what you did to his game he's gonna kick both your asses.
HalfLifeAMD 1 year ago
Jeez those whitetails have a lot of fat on them, i hate living in Oregon and having to eat of these skinny blacktails, oh by the way nice cutting video.
demsmine 1 year ago
That second cut wit the kriegsmesser would have halved it if he'd been standing a bit closer. As it is what it did would be just as fatal as being cut in half. Don't know why some people are wanking over which is better. A sword is a sword. they each have their own uses, roles, and specialities. There is no best sword.
EvilCleric 1 year ago 5
The vertebrae is small enough you finger put on it as comparable size.
Dreamland2100 1 year ago
Continued: So, the cut didn't technically "cut it in half" but it cut through all the bones and meat (none of which were cut beforehand). What little skin there was left between my cut and the gutting cut just tore off.
-I delivered a very strong cut because I didn't know how it would resist, so I gave it all I had (but for my broken rib at the time).
-The messer was a crappy MRL, and the longsword was a clunky but sharp Del Tin. Even the messer cut severed the bones of the spine.
casper1a11 1 year ago 2
Hey people, I'm the guy who cut with the longsword, and I'll try to answer a few things I saw here. Don't ask me anything because I don't spend any time on this kind of thing on the internet, and I won't see your questions.
The deer was gutted, i.e. it's stomach skin was split under the ribs on the belly side. I cut it with the spine facing me. The sword only reached about half-way through with my cut, cutting underneath and on the opposite side of the stomach skin cut (as you can see).
casper1a11 1 year ago 2
The Japanese used to do this with their Katana, to see if it was battle ready, if you could a cleave a man in two through the middle of the abdomen, your sword was worthy.
Zarboned 1 year ago
@Zarboned And where exactly did they get all of these people who were sacrificed to the blacksmiths?
Birdman2873 1 year ago
Yes Katanas can be shot and split bullets, but so can knives, trick shot artists have long used knives and axes to split a bullet to hit two targets. Lead is soft- now an armor peircing bullet, not so easy
jediknight2694 1 year ago
Hilarious comments! Apparently what you experts are saying is that if this were a living person they'd have only been cut slightly in half. "Tis but a scatch" to quote the Black Knight. The power of the sword isn't just about cutting power, there's blunt trauma as well; broken bones, sub-dermal bleeding, shock.
twobluehorses 1 year ago
Well of course european swords are very capable of chopping things in half. However it cannot be discounted that japanese katanas are proven to be unblunting, razor sharp and very difficult to break even with a machine gun firing it.
MrMasterful13 1 year ago
@MrMasterful13 Unblunting? Untrue. Even regular tameshigiri will eventually blunt your katana and it will need to be repolished (sharpened). That's just part of regular maintenance. Any well-tempered blade will resist bullets along its edge, since bullets are made of lead which is much softer than steel. :)
Kunstdesfechtens 1 year ago
@Kunstdesfechtens what i mean by the bullet resistance, is not fired along the edge, actually against it, it took a shit load of bullets XD
MrMasterful13 1 year ago
Ranziel1. You are seriously an idiot. Bone and meat is more difficult to cut through after it's been dead: dehydration and rigor mortis.
bluedevilboy 1 year ago
how easy can a sword cut through bone
tomfunfun0530 1 year ago
Surpricingly easy. What is hard is cut half a rope, which only hangs : It yields darn much. Cutting through pumpkin or bamboo mat is hard, but not insanely hard. But through piled floppy wraps of newspapers is hard: It just bends. Cutting it is insanely hard.
TuomoHamalainen 1 year ago
looked precut before the first swing, explains how it split in 2 even though the sword only cut half of it...
outlawtorndoa 2 years ago
They probably took multiple swings at it, but yes, in the slow motion at the end it's clearly visible that he doesn't cut through that flap of skin and it falls in two because it's cut on the other side as well.
His distance was short, and he only hit with the tip.
Wizard0fAtlantis 2 years ago
Actually it is important to hit with a tip. Longsword is not curved for slicing same way than japanese. It is simple matter of physics : Force is about the speed and weight what you put behind it. Sharpness is important in putting the effect in a smaller area.
TuomoHamalainen 1 year ago
@TuomoHamalainen, no actually you are supposed to hit with the point of percussion of a blade, and that is not the tip. It is about two-thirds down the length of the blade towards the tip, the point of maximum impact where the maximum force is transferred to the target. The "sweet spot". THAT is physics applied at a higher level. And swordsmanship, as well. Like I said, he cut short (like many people who practice western swordsmanship, I might add).
Wizard0fAtlantis 1 year ago
In that point you are totally right. I just don't like "overdo" things in place like YouTube. Too little marks and stuff. In easterns style the sword is not as impactlike, so they propably hit naturally nearer, and in european (like myself) it is too easy to hit too much just with point. (Not slash, just impact.)
TuomoHamalainen 1 year ago
And in my main message: ... I think most of all he hit with "overdoing". Distance is actually too long and he must do terrible long step and swing. Back is not straight - he must do it to hit the target. He hit with the point, but I think it is only a partial hint for different thing. I believe this is because hitter was a bit nervous in hitting meat with bones.
So I would not jab about the point. I would say "Hit from shorter distance". Back and hitting would do better.
TuomoHamalainen 1 year ago
Then the accuracy should be insanelly good. When it is looked near after the cut it is clear that slices are consistent. That means that the angle of hit and place to hit is so darn right that it itself is an mystic skill. I believe that partly this go half jus becouse the weight (and point of balance) of deer. Cutting is starting point, and when there is no bone to keep it structured the remaining bits just broke - they have (alone) not force enough to keep the body together.
TuomoHamalainen 1 year ago
the reason you can't have a dead animal on hand for long without gutting it is that as soon as it dies it begins to break down and rot, organs will poison the meat as this happens. that is why you "can't" take an ungutted deer out of the woods. it isn't illegal or anything just not too smart.
xekxkox 2 years ago 3
that's why they call it field dressing.
neopythagorean 1 year ago
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steelcaress 2 years ago 32
THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!
youtert 2 years ago 4
nice form from the first guy.
shedrankit 2 years ago
Well, it's impressive because he cut through the spine. However, if you look at the carcass right before he cuts it you can see on the right side that it has a slice through it already.
ARCThunder 2 years ago 2
Thats where they gutted it; spilling the contents of a dead animals stomach and intestines is not very pleasant. As you correctly point out though, cutting through the spine and the muscle around it is a challenge still.
mrbeast85 2 years ago 4
They cut out the music.
Also, did it cut through in one swing? It does seem like it only cut through a little more than half (including the spine
animematt 2 years ago
this was a good test, I'm an amuture blacksmith, and I can see where makeing a sword to be able to do THAT (even though the deer was gutted) would take a while to properly forge. 5/5!
JonasIsdiaNeravar 2 years ago
ah, greetings, fellow smith. i am an amateur bladesmith, and love makin knives especially. swords come later.
check out some of my videos for the fruits of my labour.
inumarudurglaur 2 years ago
greetings! I shall do that, hopefully I can finsih up my shop and start building things of my own =P
JonasIsdiaNeravar 2 years ago
@inumarudurglaur
Cool, i am an amateur bladesmith too.
I'll check your channel out.
Conan568 1 year ago
did he really cut the whole entire thing it looked like it only cut half
tomfunfun0530 2 years ago
Well, as you can see, the longsword strike didn't cut the carcass in half, but just sliced through some bones, other bones must have been cut by grossmesser earlier. You can see that sword landed only on the half of the carcass.
Also, dead meat is easier to cut than living flesh.
Ranziel1 2 years ago
No, the sword cut through the entire deer carcass, though gutted. (You can't really transport an ungutted deer out of the woods, so it was necessary i assume)
Zwerchhau 2 years ago 5
The sword tip reaches about half-way through the carcass, slightly below a previous cut. Pause the video at 1:30, you'll see it plain as day.
Gilmaris 2 years ago
impressive sword but you can transport an ungutted deer out of the woods do it every deer season.
wolfdragga 2 years ago
@Zwerchhau Why can't you transport an ungutted deer out of the woods?
Birdman2873 1 year ago
@Zwerchhau As far as I know cold Tissue is "harder" then warm, living Tissue
LutzDerLurch 1 year ago
@Ranziel1 : only if it's reached a state of rigour mortis. Living bone is, however, quite a bit softer and easier to cut than dead bone, so it evens out.
althesmith 1 year ago
@Ranziel1 it doesn't matter. Deer muscle is entirely more dense than human tissue. especially as soft as the modern ass sitter is. i am quite sure the results would be the same on a human with organs intact inside the torso cavity.
AlienZygote010 10 months ago
@Ranziel1 You call that half? He cut threw it easily and it only left a little bit of the tip of the body witch wasn't cut due to the lack of range.
This was easy enough for me to challenge the same man to cut 2 bodies.(dont take it seriously, but i believe it to be possible).
blakan3 7 months ago
Im listening to :^ "Kampfar - Feigdarvarsel" while wathing this ^^
PAGANchrist1 2 years ago
Great sword test. I actually read a comment a while back in another forum claiming that you could not actually cleave a man in two with a sword. I guess this settles it then.
I hope you ate the meat, as that's otherwise a waste of a good deer.
fekseko 2 years ago 4
@fekseko : Ha ha^^ , YES!
PAGANchrist1 2 years ago
As an armature knifemaker, and a wantabee sword maker I fully understand the importance/significance of these tests. What steels and edge profiles are used in these swords, any damage? The biggest challenge is bone. A razor sharp sword could cut miles of skin and muscle, but if the edge chips/curls on bone its useless, especially on contact with armor. Tradional katana's would chip easy in the hands of an amature. hide/hair is tougher to cut than clothing, guts/blood act as a lubricant.
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lareneggeneral 2 years ago
Looks like the guts had been removed previously?
Kortoso 3 years ago
Indeed they have.
I don't know how you'd be able to get a deer, with the guts still in, unless you kill it yourself.
Even then, you'd have to remove the guts, soon after the kill, as they'll start to rot pretty quickly, so the only reasonable way to do it with the guts, is to cut it, right after having killed it.
Not something easily achieved...
Still, I doubt that the guts would affect the cut that much, so it's not that important.
ZarlanTheGreen 3 years ago 4
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well I believe my own eyes before some random dudes on youtube. It looks like a japanese sword to me. and NO eurpeon sword could of sliced that deer in two in one chop. No way in he*l.
lareneggeneral 3 years ago
LOl, the first sword used is an archetypal european longsword, can't see anything remotely japanese about it. The second sword used is also european, called a kriegsmesser(which does somewhat resemble katana, but check the crossguard), I think it's an albion knecht.
Face it, that is a pure european sword that just cut a deer in half, and it's not really surprising, except if you are anime fanboy who thinks that katana is some superior sword and the only one capable of cutting something.
Konane12 3 years ago 45
oh, you are a troll. Nice try, it's sad that some people actually are that stupid.
Konane12 3 years ago 6
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"Face it, that is a pure european sword that just cut a deer in half"
No problem with that (aside that it's not a deer but a carcass that's about 20% of one), but do you notice the body action? It's slow, vulnerable and predictable...you could get two stabs in by then.
foroparapente 3 years ago
In case you haven't noticed he's test cutting not fighting, so I don't quite get your point.
Konane12 3 years ago 6
@Konane12
Konane 12 speaks the truth folks.
Gaddesreinhart 1 year ago
@Konane12 Why do people have to point that out on every sword testing video i watch?
jaskamakkara 9 months ago
@Konane12 Anime boy or not, i want to buy a katana for my personal reasons.
Being one of them the fact that i like the art itself and the "sport".
One other reason is the fact that you wont find many schools out there to teach you longsword.(yes you can learn threw the internet, but the knowledge possible to gap within proper teaching from a teacher is far supperior as expected).
Honestly i'd love to learn both and make my own way of weilding both.
blakan3 7 months ago
@blakan3 actually you can lean through arma or HEMA there are groups located everywhere its usually pretty cheap too
volarion 7 months ago
i also want to point out that this person's favorite videos are kelly clarkson
ZClum 3 years ago 4
you dont know much about eorpean swords then do you because swords like this were designed to cleave a man in half you dum fuck
NuclearFallout1 3 years ago
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This is a fake video. He is using a katana. A european sword would just hit the deer like a club. You see clearly when the big person cuts later in the video, it is katana. They try to take honor for european sword, by tricking and using katana instead
lareneggeneral 3 years ago
you know nothing, it appears to be a longsword ( katanas do not have a double edge) and this is what a medieval sword can do to a body...
ZClum 3 years ago 2
LOL!
Wow, you really can't admit that european swords can cut too?
First of all he is using two different swords. The first is a Longsword and the second is a Messer (a single edged German sword). If you read the subtitles you would know this.
SwordAndBuckler 3 years ago 2
sorry, i didn't realize he made a change
ZClum 3 years ago
If you choose not to believe their subtitles perhaps you will believe you're own eyes: Look carefully at the sword he used first. You'll notice it is straight (see 0:18 and 1:23). If you look closely at the second sword you will see that it is slightly curved (see 1:04). These are two different EUROPEAN swords. And last time I checked Katanas don't have cross-guards.
SwordAndBuckler 3 years ago 2
No, the sword with the curve is a Cold Steel Grosse Messer, or looks just like one.
MrPotatoesLatkie 2 years ago 2
"This video contains an audio track that has not been authorized by WMG. The audio has been disabled."
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You wouldn't mind uploading it again, without the music?
ZarlanTheGreen 3 years ago
great form casper
headlightsunderwater 3 years ago
Nice, but why did you guys gut it first?
I hope meat was eaten.
tsafa1 3 years ago
Damn. The test would have been perfect if the animal was whole with all organs and skin too.
tsafa1 3 years ago
I need this song to play whenever im cutting meat lol. Epic!
VikingWannaBe51887 3 years ago
I wanna try that!
Wiegieboard 3 years ago
pretty good I guess... but in the next vid both those guys should duel instead of hitting a dead corpse... now THAT would really demonstrate how effective a sword is.
martinaee 3 years ago
watch?v=6bZWuNd-tqY&feature=related
Konane12 3 years ago
hey why did you cut it on the other end first
fxnytro141 3 years ago
The other side had no meat, just the empty body cavity.
NetVoyagerOne 3 years ago
hahahahaha
zerosyber 3 years ago
HAWAIIANMAHU is just jealous because his kendo AND his drawing suckc - getting closer to you!
gomergilligan 3 years ago
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what a waste of time and space
tonyspark9803 3 years ago
holly monkey balls
hellsangle13 3 years ago
turkey nuts and asain jizz!!
trainizrippen 3 years ago
Should'nt it be, well, full or something? I know it may be for eating but that was like cutting through a cardboard box.
TheChthonicDivinity 3 years ago
It's been gutted, otherwise the deer will spoil.
s4jt 3 years ago
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cheat if you watch the right side of the carcass its already cut he only cut a little bit what a crock dont believe me watch it in full screen and watch the right side where he cuts its already cut before he does it
kokujin999 3 years ago
I agree that there is a small cut already in place on the bottom side of the rib cage. This cut rips alittle when he makes his slashing cut.
BUT. Mule deer are big deer (bigger than white tail) and it is impressive to watch none the less.
I wouldnt want to be standing there.
Nice video.
norseman7088 3 years ago
The deer was already gutted. That shouldn't be a suprise. The sword still cut right through the spine and about a foot of muscle. Not bad in my opinion.
Djemps 3 years ago
lol it hardly cut through anything what the spin and 5 inches of meat. whoopadydoo XD
Hawaiianstile 3 years ago
So you are saying that a body is hardly anything? Or are you assuming that entrails and skin would make some huge difference?
Konane12 3 years ago
first off, lol duh innards and skin would make a difference you moron XD, and second, im saying cutting through a spine and 5 inches of meat is frigin easy to do even with a blunt piece of metal, like my machete.
Hawaiianstile 3 years ago
No need for that, far be it from me to question your superior butchering skills. Can I just ask what would someone have to cut to be impressive?
Konane12 3 years ago
well if you cut a large undressed fauna straight through from shoulder and across going down ward that would be very impressive. and yes sorry for being a bit mean, but yes this isnt a hard thing
Hawaiianstile 3 years ago
And AFAIK nobody said it was.
Konane12 3 years ago
lol that's what this whole video implies XD
Hawaiianstile 3 years ago
Oh damn, why don't you go then and bitch in all those videos who don't just imply, but flat out tell how cutting something is a huge deal. I'm sure you won't have problem finding those, for starters try watch?v=Z8sSi1DyVcA&feature=related
Konane12 3 years ago
lol i only left one comment your the one that got all pissy over it XD. and im not bitching, i never bitch i laugh lol, some things (and people ;) ) are so stupid its just funny as hell lol
Hawaiianstile 3 years ago
I agree so check that video I posted, it's funny as hell in that regard.
Konane12 3 years ago
its not that funny, now this is funny XD watch?v=MPzlUgYxxfM&feature=related lol sacred fire dojo my ass.
Hawaiianstile 3 years ago
What's your problem? Cripes. Just be nice.
Okaruwazashi 3 years ago
i suppose i could be a bit more nice, for some reason im mean when i have a point to make :(
Hawaiianstile 3 years ago
That was too big to be a longsword guys. Looked like a bastard sword to me.
cheezeofages 3 years ago
That's because a longsword is a bastard sword, and the one-and-half sword as well. Originally it was the same thing. It was devided later for needs of some crappy D&D systems - -'
Krabiszcz 3 years ago
What D&D calls a longsword is actually an arming sword.
blackking1 3 years ago
if you watch it carefully, there is already a cut on the other half and you can see it on right side (1:31) Not that impressive
kbaggett 3 years ago
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ha ha ha thats great yeah i just hated seeing these loosers with there nerd swords trying to be cool I PWN THEM ALL MUAHAHAHAHA!!!~! but yeah its good to hear other ppl are pwning noobs that suck ass
LoserRyu 3 years ago
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fake...the other half of the carcass (not shown if viewed) had already been severed
creationtech 3 years ago
No, just gutted. The main thing was that it sheared through the spine, muscles, and ribs. Rather impressive actually.
Also, if they don't show it, how do /you/ know?
Caliburnis 3 years ago 2
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nerds and there swords way to fuck the meat up!
TheNotoriousBru 3 years ago
That's not very nice, but on what grounds do you call someone who loves swords nerds.
gigasbleach99 3 years ago
The proper question is: On what ground, are you saying that it is negative to be a nerd.
ZarlanTheGreen 3 years ago 2
LOL TheNotoriousBru love to see you fight one.
Last Thursday my instructor beat the crap about of my friends that went to look. What they did is pick up a wooden sword and they challenge him. Big no no! (3 vs 1)
They were in shock and were not hart too badly; every thing was cool, but they were in shock! He could had easily put them to the hospital! But they were just fine! They have new respect for this now!
Also they thought it was cool & fun, they are thinking to join!
255Knights 3 years ago
I agree with ARMA's general thesis that Euorpean swords are underrated, but the first carcass cut in this vid isn't realistic. A real human would have the ribcage and abdomen filled with dense and squishy guts. This would greatly dissipate the energy of the sword cut.
Even so, an all out blow to the lower ribs with just about any kind of sword ever used for slashing in real combat would fell an opponent.
Bacopa68 3 years ago
gravity helped too. i doubt opponents are often levitating or hanging...
wommo66 3 years ago
The fact that it is hanging makes it harder because some of the energy from the strike is dissapated by the swinging motion of the target.
SwordAndBuckler 3 years ago
If you could mess with your opponent's balance you could get a good swing in! Other then that it was short, fast strikes followed by a dragging or drawing motion to cut deeper, these were aimed at muscles, tendons, and arteries. Cutting through cloth is surprisingly hard to do, but stabbing is easy. This among other things is what made the stab so often used. Armor made cutting nearly imposable without a lot of training and experience.
applejuiceii 3 years ago
For people's information, Casper did indeed cut through the deer in one stroke. As was noted above, the dressing of the deer gave the illusion that the deer was already cut half way through.
Casper did this with a broken rib, and thought he'd have to put much more power into the cut than was required. That's why he powered through like he did.
It stunned everybody. Nobody was expecting this.
rithban 3 years ago
"As was noted above, the dressing of the deer gave the illusion that the deer was already cut half way through."
It WAS already cut, which is clearly seen before the cut is made, after the cut is made, and if you pause the vid at exactly 1:30 you will see that Casper's cut only reaches half-way in (and slightly below) the previous cut. Casper seems to be cutting the spine, though, which is impressive enough.
Gilmaris 3 years ago
I don't know what property of anatomy causes this, but I have noticed that dead tissue (like the deer carcass) is considerably easier to cut than live tissue.
HumbleHumbert123 3 years ago
Why is it, then, that I have never once heard a factual account of a human being literally being cleaved in two with a sword?
HumbleHumbert123 3 years ago
That's because there are several factors where humans are concerned.
1. They weren't dead. They're not standing still. Live muscles are tensed which also aids in resisting cut-through. Plus, the deer had no flesh (AKA leather) which would reduce the effectiveness as well as it's organs.
2. In the major conflicts which were big enough for scribes combatants commonly wore armor which seriously reduces the cutting potential.
There are accounts of cleavings within the viking eddas however.
mkleinpaste 3 years ago
Because cleaving was stupid, since the sword was made, the best way to kill has been to thrust.
Cleaving's done with sable style weapons and usually aims for mayor veins.
Its not about honour and power and shit, its about survival and the best kill is a fast kill.
RayneRockstar 3 years ago
You are right about fighting being fast and efficient. Cutting is highly efficient. Though used frequently, thrusting isn't guaranteed to disable or kill.
Most swords were made for cutting. There are quite a few training manuals left over from the time period, and they focus on cutting except in the presence of metal armour. There one has to thrust, and the types of swords designed for defeating armour have different geometries (stiff and pointed vs. flatter and sharp edges).
rithban 3 years ago
What do you mean by "factual"? There are some accounts from the middle ages outside of the romanticized sagas.
However, it's much more common to find limbs and heads severed because people don't just stand there and say "cut me in two". Those are easy to find.
The basic cuts taught focus on cleaving in two, though in practice a resisting opponent doesn't play along.
rithban 3 years ago
I hope they ate it.
HumbleHumbert123 3 years ago
aah, the second guy didnt hit the deer far enough on the blade for the tip to reach the back portion of the deer.. the part of the blade that did make contact went all the way through, he just didnt hit deep enough
megadeth22885 3 years ago
nice vid
danieltb85 3 years ago
oh man,, your messin' up the backstrap.
demsmine 3 years ago
all types of sword are beautiful, who cares about being katana or long sword. both are deadly
sylvanio199 3 years ago 7
Yeah, and the guts might also effect the cut.
But since guts rot pretty quickly, once the animal is dead, that isn't too easy to manage.
ZarlanTheGreen 3 years ago
It doesn't realy matter if it was already half way cut or not, get only one cut like those and you're dead in a few seconds... Brutal.
ojciecadek 3 years ago 2
Yeah, but of course, that would mean that you have to get the sword out, which is less good, if you have more then one enemy.
Still, half way'll do, even though cutting right through is better ...and cooler :)
ZarlanTheGreen 3 years ago
It doesn't realy matter if it was already half way cut or not, get only one cut like those and you're dead in a few seconds... Brutal.
ojciecadek 3 years ago 2
Kick ass!
Ieatbabyseals 3 years ago
Cool sord!!
"OH MY GOD, THE KATANA IS NOT THE ONLY SWORD THAT CAN CUT!!"
LOLOLOL
Take this katana fanboys!
Roman55Legions 3 years ago 4
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excelent comment!
danieltb85 3 years ago
take that katana fanboys!
braytex 3 years ago 2
Now thats pretty cool !
lol imagine hitting some ones arm full force with that ! amputation !!!!
Sk8erManSam 3 years ago
I hate to poke holes cause it looks cool, but he didnt cut in half in one strike, if you looks closely at the start on the right hes cut it half way through already, shame cause it does look cool
BurningdiverUK 3 years ago
That's just a cut from the removal of the innards. It's not already half cut through.
Caliburnis 3 years ago
This is an excellent video. We who train ought to remind ourselves, as often as possible, of the awful reality of what we learning to do.
KeyboredNinja 4 years ago 3
lol
thesummonedmuse 3 years ago
yeah but my katana can cut through a boulder!...
(just kidding)
BSwift505 4 years ago 7
Sadly, katana worshippers will believe anything.
RunDanson 4 years ago 9
I hear ya..
BSwift505 4 years ago 3
To spite the East Versus West stuff that IS here, I'm actually surprised there isn't a bunch of "Yeah but my Katana can slice through a boulder!" BS connected to this video... Flabbergasted... Actually.
Could it be that people are learning to leave their anachronisms where they actually held influence? *GASP*
iwhisperwolf 4 years ago
yeah, the cuts probably harder where the hip or pelvis is at.
biohax 4 years ago
Oh wait found it:
"We have no illusions of what the fighting men of the past were like. They fought to defend the things they held dear, and through their bloodshed they allowed Western Civilization to survive despite constant attempts to destroy it."
So yes, who was trying to destroy Western Civilization?
shayanmirza 4 years ago