CERTAIN drugs should be legialized, such as weed, whoever disagrees must be stupid enough to not know that weed is less harmful to your health compared to CIGARETTES, yet its legialized due to the money it brings in to the country. same with alcohol.
I'm getting SICK of saying this over and over and over...
Just read this article from google ya plonk, weed is alot WORSE for your lungs than ciggies...a LOT! you smoke it without a filter for one reason, its sprayed with all kinds of chemicals to make it grow and give it strength (a lot of which ARE HARMFUL when inhaled), plus weed smoke penetrates far deeper into your lungs with each toke...
read this if u don't believe me:
BBC News | HEALTH | Cannabis 'more harmful than tobacco'
its not sprayed with chemicals to make it stronger its sprayed with nothing more than food crops get sprayed with its called foliar feeding ya nong and dont believe everything you read specially from mainstream media
I smoked a quarter for week from the age of 16 to the age of 26....I've now got chronic bronchitus because of it, which I noticed a few years in, but chose to ignore it. Doctors have told me that if I stay smoke free, at BEST my lungs will stay in the condition they are in and not get any worse...the probably is though they will degenerate as time goes on, and I've lost about 25 years life expectancy as a result.
- how long have you smoked it, and what long benefits have you gotten from it?
sorry to hear but yes im in the same boat with emphysma ive smoked pot since being a teenager im 40 now i dont think anyone should smoke it when there young and brains still forming makes ya dumb but it has lots of benefits for me helps my depresion my busted back pain and arthritus hemp oils a cure for lots of things as you may well no i only smoke homegrown organic shit outdoor and under lights its bad for your lungs yeah but so is lots of other things take the good with the bad i rekon peace
If you've got emphysema, smoking is the LAST thing you need. You could probably do morphine daily and cure your back pain and depression and save your lungs at the same time - and be better off! .If you HAVE to have THC, try eating it...
I don't smoke at all anymore...I have periods where I simply find it too hard to breathe, and it sometimes feels like someone is 'holding' the back of my chest on the right hand side - stopping the my right lung expanding as it should..
- dunno what emphysema would be like, but having the pair of lungs I have to work with is bad enough!
The main reason I'm typing this is to TRY and tell people that smoking's bad for you, smoking bud is A LOT worse. I ONLY used to smoke spliffs, maybe four or five of em a day - 10 years later my lungs are screwed...There's teenagers on here saying ' its harmless', which frankly is BULLSHIT! I used to love smoking bud, but now I've realised how truly bad it is for you I've learned to hate it!
haha morphine mate im on the equivalent of 720mg of morph daily , what your saying above is true , i smoke joints only as well and you do feel it in the lungs last year i had shitloads of free herb and made oil and just ate it that was great no stoned head fuck totally cured my depresion amazingly till i ran out i make dope butter occasionally but its to heavy the oil is the go miracle herb it is in that form i need more though but refuse to pay some dope dealer needs to be legalised in someform
to be honest, for medicinal purposes I thought it was? I watching Panorama about 6 or 7 years ago which had interviews with people with SERVERE Parkinsons, Arthritus, and one guy had Alzheimers...
Basically there were about 10 oldies in their 70's blazing it on camera saying how much it helped ease their symptoms - and theybought it LEGALLY, and had some kind of medical pass which made them immune to prosecution.
They also had a regular perscription for it, and from memory, it was a LOT more expensive than street prices by about 200%...they were paying about £300 an oz monthly I recall?! lol...a lot more than I ever paid for it in anycase...
- bottom line if you have a GP which makes an EXTREMELY strong recommendation on your behalf to have it, and all other medicines fail to relieve symptoms, you could have access. The chances of that are minimal, given about 0.1% of the population are able to
Its not something the government openly declare for obvious reasons. In much the same way they don't declare to you that you can claim back tax you've earned using a P85 form if you leave the country for a month or more, if they did openly declare it, its something every cunt this side of Brixton would be trying to take advantage of
- you should see your GP and mention it though. Like I say though, even if u DID get it, you'd pay double for it
- the only thing u would have peace of mind of is knowing your supply would never run out, and you couldn't be arrested for having it, provided you were in the sanctuary of your own property behind closed doors at all times when smoking it.
If thats worth £300 an oz though, I leave you to decide. I would say no tbh...
im sick of you too....so lets recap......GRUPHENIO IS A SAD MAN.HIS SKUNK IS FULL OF KAK AND HE DOESNT LIKE IT. SO WHY NOT TRY AND DICTATE TO PEOPLE WHAT TO DO? he just knows best. one thing he doesnt though...HE IS A DUMB COCKSUCKER AND THATS THE WAY IT IS.
- I've actually enjoyed reading your posts, you sound like the type of guy that spends his jobless weekdays sniffing his dads filthy spunk ridden underwear from the laundry basket with his mums shit stained dildo up his arse.
Call it a day mate and go jump off a bridge - better that than go day after day of being a nothing anyways...
Drugs (including alchohol), TV, computer games.. They are used by people of all ages. They are normally for the purposes of escapism. Escape from the harshness and bitterness of realty and the people in it. Listen to youselves bicker and judge. It's no wonder people want to escape! If we acted with kindness, instead of hatred and prejudice, our society would be a more pleasant place to reside and people would not feel the compulsion to leave it, hide from it or become numb to it.
The worlds what you make of it for yourself and your own life though, and people that snort coke, blaze bud and get the scag & crack out everyday don't make anything out of their lives, or make a decent contribution to make the world a better place to live in, i.e helping to make it the 'idealistic' star trek ethos kind of world your talking about.
Some of the greatest writers, musicians, artists of history were taking drugs like acid and heroin in their careers to escape the restrictions of reality and also to cure their melancholy sometimes. You cannot generalise that all people who take drugs don't do anything. Coke snorting was most prolific in the 80's in the UK by the yuppies who were successful business people. Putting pressure on people to "be something" is also a reason why people want to escape. What is wrong with being nothing?
True - like the Beatles, the stones etc...Also it can be said that those people were talented ANYWAY before they started abusing drugs, which in pretty much every instance - they were already established before they even got involved in drugs.
Coke snorting is also the most common reason which accounts for underage heart attacks, last year a 24 year out in my town had a heart attack after doing a couple of grams in a binge...
They may have had talent but they needed the drugs to actually perform sometimes so the you could actually say they helped in some ways. Also, some would say that psychadelic drugs had a heavy influence on the writing of many of the bands from the 60's. Their art actually needed the drugs to get some kind of artistic freedom. We will never know.
.Ringo once said in the Anthology that WHENEVER any of the members played intoxicated, the music they made was terrible...they'd make something, think its the tits, then go back to the studio the next day and pick it apart for errors and discrepancies...it may of influenced a song, but it DIDN'T act in CREATING it...
Hendrix played in the Isle of Wight on acid, and he (usually being the bollocks) was SHITE - to the point where people got up and left him to spaz out on stage in solitude! lol
Drugs and artistic pursuits have almost gone hand in hand for centuries.
My friend died from coke at 21 after a heart attack. He took coke because he was unhappy. Cure the unhappiness and people wont abuse drugs. But some people USE drugs and don;t abuse them. There is a difference and you need to be aware of that before you say drugs are bad.
well there you are - imagine how many people will snort themselves into heart attacks if drugs were legal. ALOT I think you'll find - and thats only ONE drug. ALL drugs cause ill health in the long term, life expectancy for a regular druggie of any description is a LOT LOT lower than someone who is t-total.
Everyone in life gets depressed, the way to solve that problem is making friends, getting a decent career, and getting a bird you really like that likes you. Its simple...
I think that is very shallow minded to say that friends, career and a "bird" make you happy. If that is teh case for you, you will probably never need drugs to make you feel better but not everyone is like you. Some people go through extreme stuff in life and find it hard to cope with. Drugs become a desirable option. Have you been raped? Have you had your "bird" die? Have you been through something that has made you lose hope and faith in humans? Try to understand instead of judge.
no, not exactly - but I did have to watch my mum waste away and die from liver cancer (having never even touched alcohol), and end up bald, skinny to the bone, and unable to even speak because of the morphine she was on, crying herself to sleep every night...
- being in that situation for 4 years is as bad as it gets rest assured, and as bad as anything you've probably had to face. I smoked weed for escape,before, during and after..
1 I think your missing the point. Logically but unfortuantly there have to be sacrifices to aid progression. I beleive that everyone has a choice.
2: Im sorry to hear that your mum got liver cancer. But saying things like: "and as bad as anything you've probably had to face." sounds like a challenge to me. So;
Had skin cancer,
both parents have had viral meningitus,
and so on. people have gone through terrible things. and its not up to you to claim your hardships are more malicious.
both your parents are still alive though mate at least, and you've obviously overcome skin cancer...
losing a loved one is something that changes your live from that day forth, you love them, miss them, wanna talk to them - and their gone. I'm sorry for your personal probs as well, and I am, but when you lose someone you truly love it hurts like nothing else...
- I would volunteer to survive skin cancer or viral meningitus if my mum were still here...
I don't think there is a hierachy of grief. Someone might kill themselves because their bus was late if they are super-sensitive. We all have different expectations and some of us are more attached to them than others. I don;t think it is healthy to let your hardships define you. It should be your triumphs.
Dude, I am very sorry you had to go through that but you kind of proved my point. Drugs are not the problem. It's the attachment to grief that is the problem and the need to hide from it rather than face up to it. You'll know this better than most, surely? Using drugs can help avoid the grief for a while but eventually, you have to deal with it before it rots you. Drugs are not to blame. You can use them as a scape goat in so many ways though.
My point is though is to DEAL with the problems you have instead of running away from them. Of all lessons my life has given me, I would never turn to drugs or drink than deal with the problem face on ever again.
- every problem has a solution. I may of had to be at home more and help my mum by showing the proper support, and it would of been more painful and distressing, but it would of been a better solution than retreating to drug & drink binges all the time...
You chose the solution you felt was best at the time. You should not blame yourself. There is always going to be a better solution come along after the event. Life is hard to deal with sometimes. We can only do our best. We make mistakes, we learn. We become stronger people, only by making nistakes. The realisation of your drug abuse has given you a new perspective but remember it's your perspective and not everyone else's.
making mistakes is madatory in life from the day you're born, otherwise you wouldn't learn the meaning of consequence. Its the fear of those consequences which help you to learn as you go on and grow as a person.
Laughably, a LOT of the people that do drugs simply DON'T THINK of the consequences - which in a funny kind of way, is in direct opposition to the reality of what life is truly about.
How often does anyone really think about the consequences of their actions, let alone in a time of grief. We cannot know what is going to work out and what is. We can only best guess. Okay, you had a bad experience with your drug taking but it was mainly due to the circumstances you were in. In different circumstances, you may have had a better experience. Frame of mind has a massive bearing over our perceptions, don't you think
Go and look into buddhism. It is all about the pursuit of being nothing to find peace. Sometimes it is our ambitiousness that leads to such great unhappiness if left unsatisfied. That unhappiness leads to some dark places. I'm not saying you should give up your dreams, I'm just saying people have the right to exist without being pressured into chasing a carrot all the time and they certainly should not be made to feel guilty for it. Have you tried any drugs?
- if you wanna be a hippie, then be one. Frankly I'd rather be constrained to the essentials as I know those essentials are necessary to get where I wanna be in life, surrender those, then in the long term you're not gonna be getting anywhere - and a cancer ward/cardiac therapy ward is hardly where I wanna end up by taking drugs on a regular basis. I only hope the damage I did in my teens and early twenties hasn't caused that to be an inevitability...
I'm not a "hippy". I am not self-righteous enough to join that particular club. Just remember, Hitler had a dream too and look where that ended up. Hardly a progression??? If distracting yourself with long-term goals helps you deal with the present, that is fine. I just prefur to savour each day as it is and for what it is without judging it. I'm still progressing as I learn from each of those days and will continue to until I die and then I will be nothing, just like you and everyone else.
sorry mate, I just don't get some of the stuff u come out with...
Aims and goals in life give you focus and drive - which as far as I can see, can't be a bad thing? you have to judge and interpret each day to try and do better for the next one, which is what "progressing as u learn" is all about.
if you have kids - your legacy will be left behind through them. Your life is measured by the difference you've made in the lives left behind. Being a druggie or alckie usually doesn't make one..
Like I said, Hitler had a dream, aim, goal, He had drive. Unless killing innocent people is a good thing...
One of the most ambitious, driven people I know is a £500 a day coke head. He is by far the most unhappiest person I know too because he is unaware of the concept of contentment. He wont stop until he has everything. He has more goals than goal making factory but the legacy he leaves will be that of a sad and lonely man who uses drugs to numb his pain. His dreams will mean nothing.
Hitler had aim, goal, and drive, and if he hadn't of been gready enough to try and take on Russia instead of finishing us off - he probably would of taken the world.
Drug abusive is down to ONE thing in direct correlation to that analogy - GREED.
Maybe he should stop trying to snort his way into the Columbian Gross Domestic Product statistics and focus his ambition into something more attainable perhaps? sounds like a bit of a messer to me tbh...
Greed has a massive part to play. But dreaming also is not such a great thing. It is still avoiding reality, whichever way you look at it.
I remember when I came off the drink. I completely threw myself into my job. I became "successful" at it. I was on £70,000 a year but I was still deeply unhappy because I had given up drink but never addressed the reasons why I drank. I used my job to avoid them. I used my dreams of success to escape my grief and once I got successful, I was lost.
this is what I've been saying and been trying to tell you - target the issues making you want to drink or take drugs, and you're half way to sorting your head out for the future - in the potential hope of not having to do them to feel happy.
You were saying that drugs were bad, full stop. I was saying you can't blame drugs and that there are reasons why people take drugs if you look up at teh thread. So we're agreed. hehe.
Probably wise you took the Nazi sympathising bit down too. That was racism personified dude! I respect your opinions and value them. I even think Hitler had some acceptable political ideals to an extent but the racism and genocide bit I can't deal with. All human life is sacred, regardless of lifestyle.
yeah - I'm not a nazi sympathiser or anything ;-) I just put that post up for you and you alone...I don't agree what happened to the Jews in ANY WHICH WAY, but can still see why it did happen in a way...
I saw the film 'downfall' the other night, dunno if you've seen it, but its worth the watch...Berlin got absolutely BLITZED by the ruskies at the end of the war, and rightly so.
- dunno if you're on facebook mate, but yeah, its been good chatting with you, if your on there I'll add you in :-)
He does focus his ambitions on attainable things. He owns about 30 companies around the world. He is socially successful but failing miserably emotionally. That's my point. Having dreams does not make you happy. Having no dreams does. Happiness is the best drug known to man and it has no negative side effects apart from ambitious people telling you to stop wasting your life away doing nothing. No offense.
happiness usually comes with success...thats the point I've been trying to make.
If I owned 30 companies, I'd get a fit wife, band her everyday, get some kids in check, buy a phat house out in the country somewhere, buy a huge boat to go charter fishing in the sun with, travel the world and meet new people, go out to posh bars and clubs at weekends, eat out all the time, buy a supercar to drive an Autobahn with from time to time, buy clothes and dress like the bollocks everywhere I go, etc...
He has an obsession with improvement so success is something he would never have to deal with. I don't think he actually wants success because that is when he will have to sit and be with himself and his thoughts and he does not like himself much. You can have all that material wealth, drive, ambition, all the things we are brought up to value but being able to sit and enjoy your own company is real success in my opinion. If your thinking about the future, you're not seeing the beauty of now
I didn't like my self - but being a druggy and a waster for a while with no drive in my life was why! its funny given this ENTIRE thread to come to that evaluation, but its the truth.
If he sorts his head out and quits the marching powder, he'll probably become someone he wants to be and like himself a little more...
We need a purpose. Some faith and hope that today is going to be a good day. That is what makes us live. My days are always good because I am able to see positivity in things. I don't need ambition to make me happy. I have everything I need. Anything more is just a bonus. I smoke weed sometimes. I am not a loser. I am happier than I have ever been.
- well, fair play to ya mate...each to their own. One thing I DO and WILL disagree with you about is that you HAVE to have goals and aims in life, otherwise you simply drift along going nowhere. I know what your saying, i.e. no hopes or goals, no disappointments, but life without goals and hopes is a perspective of the hopeless...sorry to put it that way, but its the simplest way I can put it.
Anyways, good chatting to ya mate...if you're on facebook let me know and I'll add u in...
He accumulated his companies because he was not happy with what he had. That is what ambition is. It is rooted in unhappiness. Of course, if you achieve a goal, you will be happy because you don;t have that goal anymore but what if you always want more? Greed! Happiness is all about having no more goals. It's called being satisfied with who you are, what you've done and what you have.
achieving everything you've wanted by the age of 65 is key, hence the word 'retirement'. Giving up before you've achieved everything you planned to achieve prior to 65 is put simply 'giving up'.
That's fair enough. I just chose to achieve something small each day and if it builds into something more, I wont complain. That means I retire each night and experience happiness each night, instead of waiting until I'm 65 and too senile to appreciate my own life.
thats a valid and true point - but if you're working and getting closer and closer to achieving your aims, you usually get instant satisfaction along with it until you do finally succeed..thats what I've always found anyways. If your aim each morning is to simply make toast, and buy a paper before coming home to a spliff - then your not getting close to achieving ANYTHING in the long run...
Has it not occured to you yet that western society has a massive drug problem because it has thousands of dumb-ass teenagers who insist they know best and don't see why they shouldn't do anything they like? I hope for your sake you don't end up as one of those who finds out the truth about illegal drugs the hard way.
i.e. that they ALL have negative effects which counteract the positives in a clear abundance, and that they ALL screw with your health in the long term.
- finally someone who has a clue...cheers pjh1952
like talk meaningless shit on the internet for teenagers and the inexperienced to listen and agree with, while monging out on the other end of the computer screen.
- the only people who would wanna legalise drugs are the people stupid enough to take them in the first place. Simples...
You said, "Our culture is based on entertainment, and it's harder for younger... and older... people to entertain themselves". Surely, with a culture based on entertainment, people should be more entertained and less likely to take drugs? I don't believe that the majority of people are 'reduced' to drug-taking either. And how can you say there are two specific reasons for anything? People need to take responsibility for their own actions. We blame 'society' but we also represent society.
get a job then, a bird, or a hobby...if you filled your time constructively in life you wouldn't need to stone out on your sofa like a waster all day
"Legalize drugs and the world would be a better place!!" - WTF?! yeah mate...shut your trap u dizzy bald prick! the only people who agree are fellow teenagers & kids in their 20's, too young and naive to see what ALL drugs do to you in the long term. ..do you know any long term weed smokers going anywhere in life? cos I fuckin don't..
gruphenio, shut up. he has expressed his opinion on an important social matter, and you have insulted him based on his opinion and appearance. you sir are the dizzy prick.
Everyone in life is defined & judged by their appearance and opinions, or are you that dumb that you can't recognize that simple fact? if baldy wants to go on the internet and spout out dillusional bullshit of how the world should be by making drugs legal, he deserves all the criticism and scrutiny he gets, and so do you!
- go back to your colouring book ya spak... if you need crayons try your local thriftwoods, they'll welcome you open armed I'm sure ;-)
ok ive never really bothered with youtube comments and this is why. a person who claims to be 27 year old is insulting people as if he/she is about 8 years old. if youre going to tell me to start colouring in, and then let me know that thriftwoods do good crayons, i dont think you should really have a valued opinion on any social issues. take a chill pill.
- Try not to think too much mate, it clearly ain't one of your strong points...If you need a good recommendation when you get to Thriftwood's let me know, I'll be happy to help ;-)
- and thinking the world would be better if drugs were legal makes you appear to be a fuckin div...Go blaze another spliff and stuff a few more packs of dorito's in your gob, maybe you'll think the ultimate solution to world politics of your own when u get back - like banning prisons, and handing out nobel prizes to prostitutes for example lol
youre an idiot, i dont do drugs. i never said i did. i agree that drugs are bad. i accept this guys opinion, i dont fully agree with it but i think legalisation shouldnt be ignored. although i only agree to consider legalisation of cannabis. not because i wanna get high, but because its a drug which is statistically less harmful than cigarettes and kids are out on the streets dealing it and getting caught up in a life of crime and violence which that may not have chosen to be involved in.
Cannabis is contains 5 TIMES the amount of toxins and poisons than cigarettes mate, and thats without the paranoia, memory loss and blood pressure issues that come with it. Trust me, I did it for ten years everyday - I can testify hand on heart that it screws with your lungs. Type in 'google emphysema' into google, check out the bbc article at the top of the search results and read it...
- sorry if I've been abusive btw, you seem like decent enough fella...just having a laugh is all ;-)
I am a recovering alcoholic (7 years). I abused it. I undertand the reasons why people drink better than most but I certainly would never tell anyone not to drink. I am t total now but I know that some people need drink to better thier lives. If you are shy, a drink can loosen you up and help you enjoy something more. I would never say alcohol is straight out bad because there are two sides to everything and I am not arrogant enough to think my experiences are the same as everyone elses.
But if you cure the shyness, you take away the need for something that does indeed have some health risks. That is what I am saying. Drugs are not a cause, they are a solution (just not a very trustworthy one)
everything in moderation isn't THAT bad - I think we agree on that one...
The truth is though that drugs like alocohol, weed, pills, coke etc people try, do now and again, and end up doing them all the time to feel satisfied because their not happy with who they are, or their life as a whole. The thing is though, the happiness you get from all of those is ARTIFICIAL - which in the long term isnt genuine, nor is it sustainable...hence why people become addicts.
Legalizing drugs is not going to make the situation any better, in our society we know that drug taking is wrong, by legalizing it your giving the impression to future generations that its acceptable to take them, which is not the aim at all! Humans will always find a way around the law, and carry on taking drugs, by decriminalizing it your just making their job easier.
Look at holland and the dutch. Most of em have a mature attitude on the weed issue, only having a joint or two once in a while as a treat.... like alchohol is to MOST of us.
''humans will always find a way around the law'' so drug taking is gonna happen anyway. Wouldnt you want to:
A - Destroy the link between dealers and crime/underworld society.
B - Proctect the consumers already partaking from possible fatalities.
C - Ensuring quality is done to 'standard' like alchohol.
@niajones19 by legalizing drugs it will increase a healthy attitude to drugs, rather than focusing on stopping people from taking drugs all together. If you legalise the less 'hard' drugs, then it will help young people to stay away from the more dangerous drugs because they won't have to get them off dealers who will encourage them to try new harder drugs
Great video man, unfortunately legalisation would give the market to the phamercutical companies that could produce drugs for less. But at least, unlike criminals that control the industry nowadays, they could (in theory) be held to account for their product. Legalisation would be the lesser of the two devils.
well they evidently dont becos statistics show people under the age of 18 are more at risk from underage drinking than illegal drug taking....by selling drugs in supermarkets will just make them more easily avialable to young people...like alcohol
...yeah. They are more at risk because drinking alcohol is a culturally accepted thing, thus more people do it. Heroin, cocaine and MDMA aren't.
If all Class A drugs became legal over night it would not make them socially acceptable and kids who are most vulnerable to drug abuse will find it harder to get their hands onto drugs.
On a side note, let's keep in mind that alcohol is FAR more dangerous than cannabis, MDMA, mushrooms. I know legal drugs worse than most class As and Ketamine is C.
Ket is one of the most dangerous drugs of our time. Its popular and its destroying peoples bladder and kidneys.... I read a case report not so long back that said it commonly turns peoples piss to jelly... giving your uretha tube hell...
You need to get your facts straight. The reason that most drugs are unsafe is because their unregulated. This means you could put any shit in there (even hash can have diesel or plastic in it).
Legalisation is the only step. Decriminalisation is just a bullshit loop law, it would make it available to the public without addressing the issues involved.
Strength and quanity should be controlled be ensure the risks are minimal.
Prohibtion just DOESNT work. Achohol is the proof.
of course peopel from the lower classes are more liekly to take drugs...but that isnt a reason why they do so...and i think inequality in society is a social problem that needs to be solved for many more important reasons than to reduce drug taking but thats it isnt quite that easy is it ? :S
Drug takers arnt weak. Drug taking gives you the oppurtunity to socially connect with people on a level you cant achieve while sober. Pills and MDMA destroy that bullshit, paranoid sober attitude towards talking to complete strangers.
They also open your mind to new thinking which in turn helps you to develop critically as a person, something which some people dont need (people with underlying mental health issues), and others really really really really do.
I think (after taking drugs myself), that drugs should be legal and extremely cheap to buy.
Then lies the choice. You take any drug in controlled or uncontrolled way. If the drugs are clean, then genitic selection will delete the idiots that overdose.
MUCH less crime.
But as I say it could overall be better long term for our species?
i agree! i encourage every one to do their research (as you did) before going on a moral rant. i know everyone has different ideals but its nice to know that people like you share my view. intelligent, calm with your feet on the ground. (as far as this video shows anyway) fair play
it looks like your head is on the wrong way round with your hair growing on your chin, people turn your laptop upside down and squint you will know what i mean (int he FAT)
This might very well be the most well thought out, educated and "spot on" video I have ever seen on UTube. Although all your answers may not (but may be) correct, your statements , as I said are very well organized and educated. Legalizing drugs has worked in other parts of the world and possibly would work in larger more domesticated countries as well. Great thoughts sir!
you got the right idea mate... If the government legalize weed then they can control the strengths of it, thus solving the problem of the strong dangerous shit
its so lame to insult annomously on youtube. Like my ol mamma said, keep your cake hole shut if you nudda nice to say. Mate, you speak sense, drugs arn't a new problem, read dickens . legalise drugs and destroy the black market. create a tax on drugs like cigs. destroy the allure of being a bad lad, this'd create more drug awareness tbf. I'm not an idiot risks will always be there, our bodies arn't identical. I smoke cannabis, for one reason, music sounds a shit load better. x
quite runnin your mouth how old are you ? hmm i thorugh this was about teenages seems like interferring adults are poking there noses in were there not wanted sorry im not trying to be rude its all this videos can f-off im 14 i dont smoke weed or go around drink and i dont hang on street corners plus im a mc basically alot of mcs smoke weed some of us teenages have a brain im really anoyed at all the shitty cmments on ere when Most of trobel is caused by 17-21 year olds who dress like kids
jmorris31. You make a really good point. I think at least 90% of people my age smoke canabis. Mainly because of peer pressure. I admit, I do smoke it, but I never put pressure on anyone else to. I made an informed choice when I started not because it would make me look cool. I think the thing that needs to be stopped is under-age drinking, or really more getting people to know their limits, because drinking can be fun if controlled.
All the people I know that have continued to smoke bud past the age of 18 went nowhere, all that have stopped have. People that smoke weed everyday do so to fill a void of nothingless in their life because their too lazy to bother getting off their arse and doing something, like get a bird, a degree, or a job.
Its ALWAYS little teenagers and jumped up 20 yr olds that big up legalisation, for being too naive to understand the long term effects of drugs (even weed) can do to u
gruphenio, I completley agree with you man. Weed can be dangorous in the long term, I'm not a complete addict and I don't do it to fill in my empty life I just do coz its fun sometimes. But Allot of the complete stoners I know are mainly chavs who are just gonna do nothing with their lifes, I'm hopin that wont happen to me coz I control my health
If you do it once a week or something like that, then fair enough - its not THAT bad. Smoking weed is in truth as addictive as smoking ciggies in a way, and people rarely end up smoking it 'now and again' in the long term if they start. I started doing it 'now and again' when I was 16, before too long I was doing it daily and ended up doing it for about 10 years - staying in, smoking with people instead of going out, which to be fair, is and was a waste of life which I totally regret.
Yeh. Weed isn't actually physicly addictive but it can be mentaly addictive. Im not the kinda guy who needs it to have fun. I don't stay in on my own to do it I do it when Im out with friends, not to be cool, just coz it can be fun. But hopefully I'll never turn into the guy who never goes out and stays in smoking weed all day.
My God,I cant believe the narrow minded views of some ppl,I am epilectic,I smoke cannabis to eleviate this...WHY ?? because I nearly died through taking your so called legal medication.I have tried evry other medication for epilepsy & it makes me ill. As for certain ppls comments that it makes you lazy,lazy minded ppl will get lazier,
- well instead of epilepsy, you've got memory loss, paranoia, lung damage, low blood pressure + all the other smoking related diseases to worry about instead.
Hey, if my neighbours grandma can do it everyday and still remember her kids names, without being paranoid enough to jump out the window, and not bothered in any noticable sense by the lung damage and low blood prsssure - then i think i can too. Besides, alcohol is way worse.
OMG 19!! fuck what drugs are you on? and what happened to your hair!! just being poor doesnt mean you turn to drugs there are many middle class and rich people high on coke and prescription pills , that view is imisleading & pandering to stereotypes.
@gruphenio even if more people did the drugs they would be a better quality and restricted just like perscription drugs, so i dont think the risk would increase...if your dumb enough to OD when they are legal your dumb enough to do it when they are illegal
but if they were legal people would be instructed in schools about how to take drugs and in what quantity
- in the 60's, drugs were about as legal as they are ever going to be...obviously they were still illegal, but they were far more in the mainstream than now by comparison.
ALOT of people died from overdoses, more so for that reason. The more people there are that do drugs, the higher the correlation there is of overdose - its the simple truth. Legalising drugs will increase the deathrate of the given country without a shadow of a doubt...
if you stop people smoking tobacco then everyone looses, govt. looses money from tax and doctors loose jobs because they dont have so many people to fix
all you cannabis protesters who actually want the stuff legalised, think about the tax!
The last point is terrible. The people I know who take the most drugs are the wealthiest. They can afford them. And they buy more expensive drugs than say, cannabis.
i don't see why most people are so against the legalisation of drugs. The economy is in the gutters on the verge of collapse & people are worried about people abusing drugs. Legalise them & tax them. More income less drug raids less resources spent & importantly foreign countries depending on selling drugs to us will collapse. The drug cartells will lose so much they won't afford to pay their soldiers or keep them well equiped. In my opinion this is the best and quickest way to wolrd peace.
Some people have gotta just calm down a bit
God just get over it!
Ohimissedit 2 years ago
Here here
owenhennessy 2 years ago
CERTAIN drugs should be legialized, such as weed, whoever disagrees must be stupid enough to not know that weed is less harmful to your health compared to CIGARETTES, yet its legialized due to the money it brings in to the country. same with alcohol.
zebedee35 2 years ago
I'm getting SICK of saying this over and over and over...
Just read this article from google ya plonk, weed is alot WORSE for your lungs than ciggies...a LOT! you smoke it without a filter for one reason, its sprayed with all kinds of chemicals to make it grow and give it strength (a lot of which ARE HARMFUL when inhaled), plus weed smoke penetrates far deeper into your lungs with each toke...
read this if u don't believe me:
BBC News | HEALTH | Cannabis 'more harmful than tobacco'
gruphenio 2 years ago
its not sprayed with chemicals to make it stronger its sprayed with nothing more than food crops get sprayed with its called foliar feeding ya nong and dont believe everything you read specially from mainstream media
pots ok has alot of benefits
itchyundies 2 years ago
I smoked a quarter for week from the age of 16 to the age of 26....I've now got chronic bronchitus because of it, which I noticed a few years in, but chose to ignore it. Doctors have told me that if I stay smoke free, at BEST my lungs will stay in the condition they are in and not get any worse...the probably is though they will degenerate as time goes on, and I've lost about 25 years life expectancy as a result.
- how long have you smoked it, and what long benefits have you gotten from it?
gruphenio 2 years ago
sorry to hear but yes im in the same boat with emphysma ive smoked pot since being a teenager im 40 now i dont think anyone should smoke it when there young and brains still forming makes ya dumb but it has lots of benefits for me helps my depresion my busted back pain and arthritus hemp oils a cure for lots of things as you may well no i only smoke homegrown organic shit outdoor and under lights its bad for your lungs yeah but so is lots of other things take the good with the bad i rekon peace
itchyundies 2 years ago
- sorry to hear that.
If you've got emphysema, smoking is the LAST thing you need. You could probably do morphine daily and cure your back pain and depression and save your lungs at the same time - and be better off! .If you HAVE to have THC, try eating it...
I don't smoke at all anymore...I have periods where I simply find it too hard to breathe, and it sometimes feels like someone is 'holding' the back of my chest on the right hand side - stopping the my right lung expanding as it should..
gruphenio 2 years ago
- dunno what emphysema would be like, but having the pair of lungs I have to work with is bad enough!
The main reason I'm typing this is to TRY and tell people that smoking's bad for you, smoking bud is A LOT worse. I ONLY used to smoke spliffs, maybe four or five of em a day - 10 years later my lungs are screwed...There's teenagers on here saying ' its harmless', which frankly is BULLSHIT! I used to love smoking bud, but now I've realised how truly bad it is for you I've learned to hate it!
gruphenio 2 years ago
haha morphine mate im on the equivalent of 720mg of morph daily , what your saying above is true , i smoke joints only as well and you do feel it in the lungs last year i had shitloads of free herb and made oil and just ate it that was great no stoned head fuck totally cured my depresion amazingly till i ran out i make dope butter occasionally but its to heavy the oil is the go miracle herb it is in that form i need more though but refuse to pay some dope dealer needs to be legalised in someform
itchyundies 2 years ago
to be honest, for medicinal purposes I thought it was? I watching Panorama about 6 or 7 years ago which had interviews with people with SERVERE Parkinsons, Arthritus, and one guy had Alzheimers...
Basically there were about 10 oldies in their 70's blazing it on camera saying how much it helped ease their symptoms - and theybought it LEGALLY, and had some kind of medical pass which made them immune to prosecution.
gruphenio 2 years ago
They also had a regular perscription for it, and from memory, it was a LOT more expensive than street prices by about 200%...they were paying about £300 an oz monthly I recall?! lol...a lot more than I ever paid for it in anycase...
- bottom line if you have a GP which makes an EXTREMELY strong recommendation on your behalf to have it, and all other medicines fail to relieve symptoms, you could have access. The chances of that are minimal, given about 0.1% of the population are able to
gruphenio 2 years ago
- tbh very few people know about that I'm sure...
Its not something the government openly declare for obvious reasons. In much the same way they don't declare to you that you can claim back tax you've earned using a P85 form if you leave the country for a month or more, if they did openly declare it, its something every cunt this side of Brixton would be trying to take advantage of
- you should see your GP and mention it though. Like I say though, even if u DID get it, you'd pay double for it
gruphenio 2 years ago
- the only thing u would have peace of mind of is knowing your supply would never run out, and you couldn't be arrested for having it, provided you were in the sanctuary of your own property behind closed doors at all times when smoking it.
If thats worth £300 an oz though, I leave you to decide. I would say no tbh...
gruphenio 2 years ago
heroin is better cos you can snort it so your lungs get a break
666yanco 2 years ago
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gruphenio 2 years ago
im sick of you too....so lets recap......GRUPHENIO IS A SAD MAN.HIS SKUNK IS FULL OF KAK AND HE DOESNT LIKE IT. SO WHY NOT TRY AND DICTATE TO PEOPLE WHAT TO DO? he just knows best. one thing he doesnt though...HE IS A DUMB COCKSUCKER AND THATS THE WAY IT IS.
666yanco 2 years ago
lol
- I've actually enjoyed reading your posts, you sound like the type of guy that spends his jobless weekdays sniffing his dads filthy spunk ridden underwear from the laundry basket with his mums shit stained dildo up his arse.
Call it a day mate and go jump off a bridge - better that than go day after day of being a nothing anyways...
gruphenio 2 years ago
he has a very valid point, put across well. This is true in our modern society and something needs to be done about it.
madbloke6199 2 years ago
Drugs (including alchohol), TV, computer games.. They are used by people of all ages. They are normally for the purposes of escapism. Escape from the harshness and bitterness of realty and the people in it. Listen to youselves bicker and judge. It's no wonder people want to escape! If we acted with kindness, instead of hatred and prejudice, our society would be a more pleasant place to reside and people would not feel the compulsion to leave it, hide from it or become numb to it.
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
yeah, good point, perhaps they wouldn't...
The worlds what you make of it for yourself and your own life though, and people that snort coke, blaze bud and get the scag & crack out everyday don't make anything out of their lives, or make a decent contribution to make the world a better place to live in, i.e helping to make it the 'idealistic' star trek ethos kind of world your talking about.
gruphenio 2 years ago
Some of the greatest writers, musicians, artists of history were taking drugs like acid and heroin in their careers to escape the restrictions of reality and also to cure their melancholy sometimes. You cannot generalise that all people who take drugs don't do anything. Coke snorting was most prolific in the 80's in the UK by the yuppies who were successful business people. Putting pressure on people to "be something" is also a reason why people want to escape. What is wrong with being nothing?
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
True - like the Beatles, the stones etc...Also it can be said that those people were talented ANYWAY before they started abusing drugs, which in pretty much every instance - they were already established before they even got involved in drugs.
Coke snorting is also the most common reason which accounts for underage heart attacks, last year a 24 year out in my town had a heart attack after doing a couple of grams in a binge...
gruphenio 2 years ago
They may have had talent but they needed the drugs to actually perform sometimes so the you could actually say they helped in some ways. Also, some would say that psychadelic drugs had a heavy influence on the writing of many of the bands from the 60's. Their art actually needed the drugs to get some kind of artistic freedom. We will never know.
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
.Ringo once said in the Anthology that WHENEVER any of the members played intoxicated, the music they made was terrible...they'd make something, think its the tits, then go back to the studio the next day and pick it apart for errors and discrepancies...it may of influenced a song, but it DIDN'T act in CREATING it...
Hendrix played in the Isle of Wight on acid, and he (usually being the bollocks) was SHITE - to the point where people got up and left him to spaz out on stage in solitude! lol
gruphenio 2 years ago
Drugs and artistic pursuits have almost gone hand in hand for centuries.
My friend died from coke at 21 after a heart attack. He took coke because he was unhappy. Cure the unhappiness and people wont abuse drugs. But some people USE drugs and don;t abuse them. There is a difference and you need to be aware of that before you say drugs are bad.
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
well there you are - imagine how many people will snort themselves into heart attacks if drugs were legal. ALOT I think you'll find - and thats only ONE drug. ALL drugs cause ill health in the long term, life expectancy for a regular druggie of any description is a LOT LOT lower than someone who is t-total.
Everyone in life gets depressed, the way to solve that problem is making friends, getting a decent career, and getting a bird you really like that likes you. Its simple...
gruphenio 2 years ago
I think that is very shallow minded to say that friends, career and a "bird" make you happy. If that is teh case for you, you will probably never need drugs to make you feel better but not everyone is like you. Some people go through extreme stuff in life and find it hard to cope with. Drugs become a desirable option. Have you been raped? Have you had your "bird" die? Have you been through something that has made you lose hope and faith in humans? Try to understand instead of judge.
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
no, not exactly - but I did have to watch my mum waste away and die from liver cancer (having never even touched alcohol), and end up bald, skinny to the bone, and unable to even speak because of the morphine she was on, crying herself to sleep every night...
- being in that situation for 4 years is as bad as it gets rest assured, and as bad as anything you've probably had to face. I smoked weed for escape,before, during and after..
gruphenio 2 years ago
Two things;
1 I think your missing the point. Logically but unfortuantly there have to be sacrifices to aid progression. I beleive that everyone has a choice.
2: Im sorry to hear that your mum got liver cancer. But saying things like: "and as bad as anything you've probably had to face." sounds like a challenge to me. So;
Had skin cancer,
both parents have had viral meningitus,
and so on. people have gone through terrible things. and its not up to you to claim your hardships are more malicious.
Renorack 2 years ago
both your parents are still alive though mate at least, and you've obviously overcome skin cancer...
losing a loved one is something that changes your live from that day forth, you love them, miss them, wanna talk to them - and their gone. I'm sorry for your personal probs as well, and I am, but when you lose someone you truly love it hurts like nothing else...
- I would volunteer to survive skin cancer or viral meningitus if my mum were still here...
gruphenio 2 years ago
I don't think there is a hierachy of grief. Someone might kill themselves because their bus was late if they are super-sensitive. We all have different expectations and some of us are more attached to them than others. I don;t think it is healthy to let your hardships define you. It should be your triumphs.
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
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gruphenio 2 years ago
Dude, I am very sorry you had to go through that but you kind of proved my point. Drugs are not the problem. It's the attachment to grief that is the problem and the need to hide from it rather than face up to it. You'll know this better than most, surely? Using drugs can help avoid the grief for a while but eventually, you have to deal with it before it rots you. Drugs are not to blame. You can use them as a scape goat in so many ways though.
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
yeah - you're right...
My point is though is to DEAL with the problems you have instead of running away from them. Of all lessons my life has given me, I would never turn to drugs or drink than deal with the problem face on ever again.
- every problem has a solution. I may of had to be at home more and help my mum by showing the proper support, and it would of been more painful and distressing, but it would of been a better solution than retreating to drug & drink binges all the time...
gruphenio 2 years ago
You chose the solution you felt was best at the time. You should not blame yourself. There is always going to be a better solution come along after the event. Life is hard to deal with sometimes. We can only do our best. We make mistakes, we learn. We become stronger people, only by making nistakes. The realisation of your drug abuse has given you a new perspective but remember it's your perspective and not everyone else's.
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
making mistakes is madatory in life from the day you're born, otherwise you wouldn't learn the meaning of consequence. Its the fear of those consequences which help you to learn as you go on and grow as a person.
Laughably, a LOT of the people that do drugs simply DON'T THINK of the consequences - which in a funny kind of way, is in direct opposition to the reality of what life is truly about.
gruphenio 2 years ago
How often does anyone really think about the consequences of their actions, let alone in a time of grief. We cannot know what is going to work out and what is. We can only best guess. Okay, you had a bad experience with your drug taking but it was mainly due to the circumstances you were in. In different circumstances, you may have had a better experience. Frame of mind has a massive bearing over our perceptions, don't you think
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
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gruphenio 2 years ago
Go and look into buddhism. It is all about the pursuit of being nothing to find peace. Sometimes it is our ambitiousness that leads to such great unhappiness if left unsatisfied. That unhappiness leads to some dark places. I'm not saying you should give up your dreams, I'm just saying people have the right to exist without being pressured into chasing a carrot all the time and they certainly should not be made to feel guilty for it. Have you tried any drugs?
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
pressure is necessary for progression...
- if you wanna be a hippie, then be one. Frankly I'd rather be constrained to the essentials as I know those essentials are necessary to get where I wanna be in life, surrender those, then in the long term you're not gonna be getting anywhere - and a cancer ward/cardiac therapy ward is hardly where I wanna end up by taking drugs on a regular basis. I only hope the damage I did in my teens and early twenties hasn't caused that to be an inevitability...
gruphenio 2 years ago
I'm not a "hippy". I am not self-righteous enough to join that particular club. Just remember, Hitler had a dream too and look where that ended up. Hardly a progression??? If distracting yourself with long-term goals helps you deal with the present, that is fine. I just prefur to savour each day as it is and for what it is without judging it. I'm still progressing as I learn from each of those days and will continue to until I die and then I will be nothing, just like you and everyone else.
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
sorry mate, I just don't get some of the stuff u come out with...
Aims and goals in life give you focus and drive - which as far as I can see, can't be a bad thing? you have to judge and interpret each day to try and do better for the next one, which is what "progressing as u learn" is all about.
if you have kids - your legacy will be left behind through them. Your life is measured by the difference you've made in the lives left behind. Being a druggie or alckie usually doesn't make one..
gruphenio 2 years ago
Like I said, Hitler had a dream, aim, goal, He had drive. Unless killing innocent people is a good thing...
One of the most ambitious, driven people I know is a £500 a day coke head. He is by far the most unhappiest person I know too because he is unaware of the concept of contentment. He wont stop until he has everything. He has more goals than goal making factory but the legacy he leaves will be that of a sad and lonely man who uses drugs to numb his pain. His dreams will mean nothing.
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
Hitler had aim, goal, and drive, and if he hadn't of been gready enough to try and take on Russia instead of finishing us off - he probably would of taken the world.
Drug abusive is down to ONE thing in direct correlation to that analogy - GREED.
Maybe he should stop trying to snort his way into the Columbian Gross Domestic Product statistics and focus his ambition into something more attainable perhaps? sounds like a bit of a messer to me tbh...
gruphenio 2 years ago
Greed has a massive part to play. But dreaming also is not such a great thing. It is still avoiding reality, whichever way you look at it.
I remember when I came off the drink. I completely threw myself into my job. I became "successful" at it. I was on £70,000 a year but I was still deeply unhappy because I had given up drink but never addressed the reasons why I drank. I used my job to avoid them. I used my dreams of success to escape my grief and once I got successful, I was lost.
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
this is what I've been saying and been trying to tell you - target the issues making you want to drink or take drugs, and you're half way to sorting your head out for the future - in the potential hope of not having to do them to feel happy.
gruphenio 2 years ago
You were saying that drugs were bad, full stop. I was saying you can't blame drugs and that there are reasons why people take drugs if you look up at teh thread. So we're agreed. hehe.
Probably wise you took the Nazi sympathising bit down too. That was racism personified dude! I respect your opinions and value them. I even think Hitler had some acceptable political ideals to an extent but the racism and genocide bit I can't deal with. All human life is sacred, regardless of lifestyle.
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
yeah - I'm not a nazi sympathiser or anything ;-) I just put that post up for you and you alone...I don't agree what happened to the Jews in ANY WHICH WAY, but can still see why it did happen in a way...
I saw the film 'downfall' the other night, dunno if you've seen it, but its worth the watch...Berlin got absolutely BLITZED by the ruskies at the end of the war, and rightly so.
- dunno if you're on facebook mate, but yeah, its been good chatting with you, if your on there I'll add you in :-)
gruphenio 2 years ago
He does focus his ambitions on attainable things. He owns about 30 companies around the world. He is socially successful but failing miserably emotionally. That's my point. Having dreams does not make you happy. Having no dreams does. Happiness is the best drug known to man and it has no negative side effects apart from ambitious people telling you to stop wasting your life away doing nothing. No offense.
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
happiness usually comes with success...thats the point I've been trying to make.
If I owned 30 companies, I'd get a fit wife, band her everyday, get some kids in check, buy a phat house out in the country somewhere, buy a huge boat to go charter fishing in the sun with, travel the world and meet new people, go out to posh bars and clubs at weekends, eat out all the time, buy a supercar to drive an Autobahn with from time to time, buy clothes and dress like the bollocks everywhere I go, etc...
gruphenio 2 years ago
- I'd have plenty of dreams to keep me happy if I were him...
but no, your mate has decided to become a 3 grand a week cokehead instead because he doesn't have those dreams to dedicate his time with.
- try and argue otherwise mate, no offence but this is becoming laughable! ;-)
gruphenio 2 years ago
He has an obsession with improvement so success is something he would never have to deal with. I don't think he actually wants success because that is when he will have to sit and be with himself and his thoughts and he does not like himself much. You can have all that material wealth, drive, ambition, all the things we are brought up to value but being able to sit and enjoy your own company is real success in my opinion. If your thinking about the future, you're not seeing the beauty of now
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
I didn't like my self - but being a druggy and a waster for a while with no drive in my life was why! its funny given this ENTIRE thread to come to that evaluation, but its the truth.
If he sorts his head out and quits the marching powder, he'll probably become someone he wants to be and like himself a little more...
gruphenio 2 years ago
We need a purpose. Some faith and hope that today is going to be a good day. That is what makes us live. My days are always good because I am able to see positivity in things. I don't need ambition to make me happy. I have everything I need. Anything more is just a bonus. I smoke weed sometimes. I am not a loser. I am happier than I have ever been.
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
- well, fair play to ya mate...each to their own. One thing I DO and WILL disagree with you about is that you HAVE to have goals and aims in life, otherwise you simply drift along going nowhere. I know what your saying, i.e. no hopes or goals, no disappointments, but life without goals and hopes is a perspective of the hopeless...sorry to put it that way, but its the simplest way I can put it.
Anyways, good chatting to ya mate...if you're on facebook let me know and I'll add u in...
gruphenio 2 years ago
He accumulated his companies because he was not happy with what he had. That is what ambition is. It is rooted in unhappiness. Of course, if you achieve a goal, you will be happy because you don;t have that goal anymore but what if you always want more? Greed! Happiness is all about having no more goals. It's called being satisfied with who you are, what you've done and what you have.
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
And not wanting more.
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
achieving everything you've wanted by the age of 65 is key, hence the word 'retirement'. Giving up before you've achieved everything you planned to achieve prior to 65 is put simply 'giving up'.
gruphenio 2 years ago
That's fair enough. I just chose to achieve something small each day and if it builds into something more, I wont complain. That means I retire each night and experience happiness each night, instead of waiting until I'm 65 and too senile to appreciate my own life.
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
thats a valid and true point - but if you're working and getting closer and closer to achieving your aims, you usually get instant satisfaction along with it until you do finally succeed..thats what I've always found anyways. If your aim each morning is to simply make toast, and buy a paper before coming home to a spliff - then your not getting close to achieving ANYTHING in the long run...
anyways, I'm off to bed. Catch ya later mate...
gruphenio 2 years ago
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gruphenio 2 years ago
Has it not occured to you yet that western society has a massive drug problem because it has thousands of dumb-ass teenagers who insist they know best and don't see why they shouldn't do anything they like? I hope for your sake you don't end up as one of those who finds out the truth about illegal drugs the hard way.
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pjh1952 2 years ago
i.e. that they ALL have negative effects which counteract the positives in a clear abundance, and that they ALL screw with your health in the long term.
- finally someone who has a clue...cheers pjh1952
gruphenio 2 years ago
good words just said there :)
craigneilpearson 2 years ago
you have the worst egg head in the world and you have the most hairy ass hole in the world
khanz4lyf 2 years ago
another one of those with no lives? at least hes trying to do something constructive.
zebedee35 2 years ago
like talk meaningless shit on the internet for teenagers and the inexperienced to listen and agree with, while monging out on the other end of the computer screen.
- the only people who would wanna legalise drugs are the people stupid enough to take them in the first place. Simples...
gruphenio 2 years ago
rofl
rjjgreatesofalltime 2 years ago
it would only take an arse bender to recognise that mate? dug yourself a hole on that one...
I agree he's a fat bald tit with a rat on his chin though...
gruphenio 2 years ago
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gruphenio 2 years ago
You said, "Our culture is based on entertainment, and it's harder for younger... and older... people to entertain themselves". Surely, with a culture based on entertainment, people should be more entertained and less likely to take drugs? I don't believe that the majority of people are 'reduced' to drug-taking either. And how can you say there are two specific reasons for anything? People need to take responsibility for their own actions. We blame 'society' but we also represent society.
snoozeyoulose19 2 years ago
what he meant is they WANT to be entertained, but cant all the time so they turn to drugs as a source of entertainment
zebedee35 2 years ago
pfft
get a job then, a bird, or a hobby...if you filled your time constructively in life you wouldn't need to stone out on your sofa like a waster all day
"Legalize drugs and the world would be a better place!!" - WTF?! yeah mate...shut your trap u dizzy bald prick! the only people who agree are fellow teenagers & kids in their 20's, too young and naive to see what ALL drugs do to you in the long term. ..do you know any long term weed smokers going anywhere in life? cos I fuckin don't..
gruphenio 2 years ago
gruphenio, shut up. he has expressed his opinion on an important social matter, and you have insulted him based on his opinion and appearance. you sir are the dizzy prick.
doritosarenice 2 years ago
yeah, and who the fuck are you?
Everyone in life is defined & judged by their appearance and opinions, or are you that dumb that you can't recognize that simple fact? if baldy wants to go on the internet and spout out dillusional bullshit of how the world should be by making drugs legal, he deserves all the criticism and scrutiny he gets, and so do you!
- go back to your colouring book ya spak... if you need crayons try your local thriftwoods, they'll welcome you open armed I'm sure ;-)
gruphenio 2 years ago
ok ive never really bothered with youtube comments and this is why. a person who claims to be 27 year old is insulting people as if he/she is about 8 years old. if youre going to tell me to start colouring in, and then let me know that thriftwoods do good crayons, i dont think you should really have a valued opinion on any social issues. take a chill pill.
doritosarenice 2 years ago
pfft..lol
- Try not to think too much mate, it clearly ain't one of your strong points...If you need a good recommendation when you get to Thriftwood's let me know, I'll be happy to help ;-)
gruphenio 2 years ago
ok if we are giving advice id say that maybe you should try not to talk because it only makes you sound like a dickhead.
doritosarenice 2 years ago
yeah...lol
- and thinking the world would be better if drugs were legal makes you appear to be a fuckin div...Go blaze another spliff and stuff a few more packs of dorito's in your gob, maybe you'll think the ultimate solution to world politics of your own when u get back - like banning prisons, and handing out nobel prizes to prostitutes for example lol
gruphenio 2 years ago
youre an idiot, i dont do drugs. i never said i did. i agree that drugs are bad. i accept this guys opinion, i dont fully agree with it but i think legalisation shouldnt be ignored. although i only agree to consider legalisation of cannabis. not because i wanna get high, but because its a drug which is statistically less harmful than cigarettes and kids are out on the streets dealing it and getting caught up in a life of crime and violence which that may not have chosen to be involved in.
doritosarenice 2 years ago
Cannabis is contains 5 TIMES the amount of toxins and poisons than cigarettes mate, and thats without the paranoia, memory loss and blood pressure issues that come with it. Trust me, I did it for ten years everyday - I can testify hand on heart that it screws with your lungs. Type in 'google emphysema' into google, check out the bbc article at the top of the search results and read it...
- sorry if I've been abusive btw, you seem like decent enough fella...just having a laugh is all ;-)
gruphenio 2 years ago
'cannabis emphysema' - not 'google emphysema'...
sorry, typo
gruphenio 2 years ago
no worries, im gonna go have a little read up about it. good chat man, cya
doritosarenice 2 years ago
I am a recovering alcoholic (7 years). I abused it. I undertand the reasons why people drink better than most but I certainly would never tell anyone not to drink. I am t total now but I know that some people need drink to better thier lives. If you are shy, a drink can loosen you up and help you enjoy something more. I would never say alcohol is straight out bad because there are two sides to everything and I am not arrogant enough to think my experiences are the same as everyone elses.
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
But if you cure the shyness, you take away the need for something that does indeed have some health risks. That is what I am saying. Drugs are not a cause, they are a solution (just not a very trustworthy one)
elysiumseeker 2 years ago
everything in moderation isn't THAT bad - I think we agree on that one...
The truth is though that drugs like alocohol, weed, pills, coke etc people try, do now and again, and end up doing them all the time to feel satisfied because their not happy with who they are, or their life as a whole. The thing is though, the happiness you get from all of those is ARTIFICIAL - which in the long term isnt genuine, nor is it sustainable...hence why people become addicts.
gruphenio 2 years ago
Well said my man . Humans have seeked to get out of their minds since the year dot and will always continue to do so . Its not rocket science .
Clempt90 2 years ago
sublimation
rollingcube 2 years ago
im taking drugs new yars eve SO PEACE!
goggles341 2 years ago
Legalizing drugs is not going to make the situation any better, in our society we know that drug taking is wrong, by legalizing it your giving the impression to future generations that its acceptable to take them, which is not the aim at all! Humans will always find a way around the law, and carry on taking drugs, by decriminalizing it your just making their job easier.
niajones19 2 years ago 2
@niajones19,
Look at holland and the dutch. Most of em have a mature attitude on the weed issue, only having a joint or two once in a while as a treat.... like alchohol is to MOST of us.
''humans will always find a way around the law'' so drug taking is gonna happen anyway. Wouldnt you want to:
A - Destroy the link between dealers and crime/underworld society.
B - Proctect the consumers already partaking from possible fatalities.
C - Ensuring quality is done to 'standard' like alchohol.
ParlourBEATflex 2 years ago
@niajones19 by legalizing drugs it will increase a healthy attitude to drugs, rather than focusing on stopping people from taking drugs all together. If you legalise the less 'hard' drugs, then it will help young people to stay away from the more dangerous drugs because they won't have to get them off dealers who will encourage them to try new harder drugs
F4Y3B3B4BY 2 years ago
EXACTLY. Breaking the chain...
ParlourBEATflex 2 years ago
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gruphenio 2 years ago
All of u'r comments are ballshit how do we know had not had Drugs
Next time think
Who is with me
jacobr1409 2 years ago
Great video, 5 star
Ultre 2 years ago
Great video man, unfortunately legalisation would give the market to the phamercutical companies that could produce drugs for less. But at least, unlike criminals that control the industry nowadays, they could (in theory) be held to account for their product. Legalisation would be the lesser of the two devils.
pclose11 2 years ago
WOW! you aare sooo cooolll :D
AlA5tAiR31 2 years ago
how is legaliaztion reducing the risk of drug taking ? its not is it it will increase it!
1russyd 2 years ago
Drug dealers don't ask children for ID. Supermarkets do.
SwashYourBuckle 2 years ago
well they evidently dont becos statistics show people under the age of 18 are more at risk from underage drinking than illegal drug taking....by selling drugs in supermarkets will just make them more easily avialable to young people...like alcohol
1russyd 2 years ago
...yeah. They are more at risk because drinking alcohol is a culturally accepted thing, thus more people do it. Heroin, cocaine and MDMA aren't.
If all Class A drugs became legal over night it would not make them socially acceptable and kids who are most vulnerable to drug abuse will find it harder to get their hands onto drugs.
On a side note, let's keep in mind that alcohol is FAR more dangerous than cannabis, MDMA, mushrooms. I know legal drugs worse than most class As and Ketamine is C.
SwashYourBuckle 2 years ago
@SwashYourBuckle,
Ket is one of the most dangerous drugs of our time. Its popular and its destroying peoples bladder and kidneys.... I read a case report not so long back that said it commonly turns peoples piss to jelly... giving your uretha tube hell...
ParlourBEATflex 2 years ago
@Parlour
Thanks for that. I'm well aware of how dangerous ketamine is and thus why I mentioned it was Class C. It's bizarre.
SwashYourBuckle 2 years ago
@1russyd,
Actually as far as 12-16year olds go, its actually alot easier to get illegal drugs than alchohol.
dealers arnt gonna ask for ID when a kid is clutching some cash....
ParlourBEATflex 2 years ago
@1russyd,
You need to get your facts straight. The reason that most drugs are unsafe is because their unregulated. This means you could put any shit in there (even hash can have diesel or plastic in it).
Legalisation is the only step. Decriminalisation is just a bullshit loop law, it would make it available to the public without addressing the issues involved.
Strength and quanity should be controlled be ensure the risks are minimal.
Prohibtion just DOESNT work. Achohol is the proof.
ParlourBEATflex 2 years ago
of course peopel from the lower classes are more liekly to take drugs...but that isnt a reason why they do so...and i think inequality in society is a social problem that needs to be solved for many more important reasons than to reduce drug taking but thats it isnt quite that easy is it ? :S
1russyd 2 years ago
weak people take drugs
vinilla 2 years ago
And you are weak for not experimenting.
shabba286 2 years ago
oh i did experiment ......i was weak ....along time ago
vinilla 2 years ago
I'll let you put yourself down, but please don't point to us responsible users in the mainstream and call us weak.
SwashYourBuckle 2 years ago
OMG man im so sorry i was just thinking about the crazy people who abuse drugs ...again sorry!
vinilla 2 years ago
@villina
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SwashYourBuckle 2 years ago
@vinilla, going straight has
Drug takers arnt weak. Drug taking gives you the oppurtunity to socially connect with people on a level you cant achieve while sober. Pills and MDMA destroy that bullshit, paranoid sober attitude towards talking to complete strangers.
They also open your mind to new thinking which in turn helps you to develop critically as a person, something which some people dont need (people with underlying mental health issues), and others really really really really do.
ParlourBEATflex 2 years ago
- what a load of absolute BULLSHIT! lol
gruphenio 2 years ago
I think (after taking drugs myself), that drugs should be legal and extremely cheap to buy.
Then lies the choice. You take any drug in controlled or uncontrolled way. If the drugs are clean, then genitic selection will delete the idiots that overdose.
MUCH less crime.
But as I say it could overall be better long term for our species?
LabRat6619 2 years ago
very true
raymondm628 2 years ago
i agree! i encourage every one to do their research (as you did) before going on a moral rant. i know everyone has different ideals but its nice to know that people like you share my view. intelligent, calm with your feet on the ground. (as far as this video shows anyway) fair play
emilyjaneyeh 2 years ago
it looks like your head is on the wrong way round with your hair growing on your chin, people turn your laptop upside down and squint you will know what i mean (int he FAT)
JackRussellUK 2 years ago
This might very well be the most well thought out, educated and "spot on" video I have ever seen on UTube. Although all your answers may not (but may be) correct, your statements , as I said are very well organized and educated. Legalizing drugs has worked in other parts of the world and possibly would work in larger more domesticated countries as well. Great thoughts sir!
MrDMachuta 2 years ago
19?!?!?!
skylinexj100 2 years ago 2
you got the right idea mate... If the government legalize weed then they can control the strengths of it, thus solving the problem of the strong dangerous shit
DdotSP 2 years ago
Replace those last 3 words with "better shit" and I completely agree
Konnayaha 2 years ago 2
only cos he doesent sound scottish doesent mean he isnt like david teennant is scottish but hasnt got a scottish voice and why does it matter anyway
MrXboxLiveGen 2 years ago
I agree with everything you said
xoffender74 2 years ago
thats how it is!!!! well said morris.
been there seen it happen know what your on about and you are 100% correct in your views.
thanks for putting it out there.
etsme 2 years ago
Totally agree with this, its pretty much a matter of influence aswell, great response man.
Xorium 2 years ago
its so lame to insult annomously on youtube. Like my ol mamma said, keep your cake hole shut if you nudda nice to say. Mate, you speak sense, drugs arn't a new problem, read dickens . legalise drugs and destroy the black market. create a tax on drugs like cigs. destroy the allure of being a bad lad, this'd create more drug awareness tbf. I'm not an idiot risks will always be there, our bodies arn't identical. I smoke cannabis, for one reason, music sounds a shit load better. x
PATAFLAFA 2 years ago
i kinda agree.
Upto hu eva it is if they take drugs or not. but great idea about makin them legal. then u wont get all the bad side effects
RobertaMillington 2 years ago
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sharegame 2 years ago
Impressive beard.
underdogthanks 2 years ago
mate your a fag
benturki 2 years ago
the more sex, the more love. the more love the better. there's no limit of love, happyness or fun.
use protection though, there's enough selfish arseholes crawling around in this world as it is.
aidenmccloskey 2 years ago
fuk taxin my weed fuk that its expensive enuf gime a licence il do my own ok im waitn thanks ross
xyzcwp2007 2 years ago
quite runnin your mouth how old are you ? hmm i thorugh this was about teenages seems like interferring adults are poking there noses in were there not wanted sorry im not trying to be rude its all this videos can f-off im 14 i dont smoke weed or go around drink and i dont hang on street corners plus im a mc basically alot of mcs smoke weed some of us teenages have a brain im really anoyed at all the shitty cmments on ere when Most of trobel is caused by 17-21 year olds who dress like kids
1611bd08 2 years ago
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gruphenio 2 years ago
fuk the law smoke the draw dont drink and drive smoke a spliff n fly lol gime drugs baldy
xyzcwp2007 2 years ago
Shut Your Noise Baldy.
helmshmit08 2 years ago 4
@helmshmit08
lol! yeah...glad someone said it ;-)
gruphenio 2 years ago
jmorris31. You make a really good point. I think at least 90% of people my age smoke canabis. Mainly because of peer pressure. I admit, I do smoke it, but I never put pressure on anyone else to. I made an informed choice when I started not because it would make me look cool. I think the thing that needs to be stopped is under-age drinking, or really more getting people to know their limits, because drinking can be fun if controlled.
GuitarHeroJP 2 years ago
@GuitarHeroJP
All the people I know that have continued to smoke bud past the age of 18 went nowhere, all that have stopped have. People that smoke weed everyday do so to fill a void of nothingless in their life because their too lazy to bother getting off their arse and doing something, like get a bird, a degree, or a job.
Its ALWAYS little teenagers and jumped up 20 yr olds that big up legalisation, for being too naive to understand the long term effects of drugs (even weed) can do to u
gruphenio 2 years ago
gruphenio, I completley agree with you man. Weed can be dangorous in the long term, I'm not a complete addict and I don't do it to fill in my empty life I just do coz its fun sometimes. But Allot of the complete stoners I know are mainly chavs who are just gonna do nothing with their lifes, I'm hopin that wont happen to me coz I control my health
GuitarHeroJP 2 years ago
If you do it once a week or something like that, then fair enough - its not THAT bad. Smoking weed is in truth as addictive as smoking ciggies in a way, and people rarely end up smoking it 'now and again' in the long term if they start. I started doing it 'now and again' when I was 16, before too long I was doing it daily and ended up doing it for about 10 years - staying in, smoking with people instead of going out, which to be fair, is and was a waste of life which I totally regret.
gruphenio 2 years ago
Yeh. Weed isn't actually physicly addictive but it can be mentaly addictive. Im not the kinda guy who needs it to have fun. I don't stay in on my own to do it I do it when Im out with friends, not to be cool, just coz it can be fun. But hopefully I'll never turn into the guy who never goes out and stays in smoking weed all day.
GuitarHeroJP 2 years ago
hey YOU should have a nice heroin hit and chill little bit...stressin too much..and writin too much bullshit too
666yanco 2 years ago
The actual penalties and getting caught by police is worse for your health than the drugs itself.
qwerly45 2 years ago 3
If you smoke weed and are caught, your fined because you're either:
A) openly walking around with a spliff in the general public, & ASKING to be caught.
B) Are stupid enough to grow it and sell it at a registered address, which is traced by the police
C) Because you were arrested for another crime, and it happened to be on you at the time
D) People who know you know you do it, and or either don't like you, or have a grudge against you - so they dob you in.
- either way, its your OWN FAULT!
gruphenio 2 years ago
lol were teens were meant to be doing all this stuff
vendrick1000 2 years ago
throughout human history people have always taken drugs and always will regardless of legality.
ill get stoned anyway who cares??
GoodyWillPwnJ00 2 years ago
stop spinning me out bald man
jakeruk888 2 years ago
Hahaha.
helmshmit08 2 years ago
bludy hell u look as old as my dad m8 :P jkz
gangstaz001 2 years ago
james u rock fella
desigayboi 2 years ago
My God,I cant believe the narrow minded views of some ppl,I am epilectic,I smoke cannabis to eleviate this...WHY ?? because I nearly died through taking your so called legal medication.I have tried evry other medication for epilepsy & it makes me ill. As for certain ppls comments that it makes you lazy,lazy minded ppl will get lazier,
v33dubber 2 years ago
@v33dubber
- well instead of epilepsy, you've got memory loss, paranoia, lung damage, low blood pressure + all the other smoking related diseases to worry about instead.
Yeah - RIGHT ON MAN!!!
lol
gruphenio 2 years ago
Do I want to die healthy or happy....hmmmm tough call but I think I will go with happy.
v33dubber 2 years ago
@v33dubber
if you need drugs to make you 'happy', then obviously you're never truly happy though are you?!
gruphenio 2 years ago
Hey, if my neighbours grandma can do it everyday and still remember her kids names, without being paranoid enough to jump out the window, and not bothered in any noticable sense by the lung damage and low blood prsssure - then i think i can too. Besides, alcohol is way worse.
TalonHayato 1 year ago
wtf dick
iloveredtube1 2 years ago
@iloveredtube1
- yeah...shave the rat off your chin ya fuckin twirp!
gruphenio 2 years ago
OMG 19!! fuck what drugs are you on? and what happened to your hair!! just being poor doesnt mean you turn to drugs there are many middle class and rich people high on coke and prescription pills , that view is imisleading & pandering to stereotypes.
paulspydar 2 years ago 3
haha i cant believe this kid is 19 either
henroin123 2 years ago
@gruphenio even if more people did the drugs they would be a better quality and restricted just like perscription drugs, so i dont think the risk would increase...if your dumb enough to OD when they are legal your dumb enough to do it when they are illegal
but if they were legal people would be instructed in schools about how to take drugs and in what quantity
henroin123 2 years ago
@henroin123
- in the 60's, drugs were about as legal as they are ever going to be...obviously they were still illegal, but they were far more in the mainstream than now by comparison.
ALOT of people died from overdoses, more so for that reason. The more people there are that do drugs, the higher the correlation there is of overdose - its the simple truth. Legalising drugs will increase the deathrate of the given country without a shadow of a doubt...
gruphenio 2 years ago
everyone please just shut up!
if you stop people smoking tobacco then everyone looses, govt. looses money from tax and doctors loose jobs because they dont have so many people to fix
all you cannabis protesters who actually want the stuff legalised, think about the tax!
@Renorack world peace?
henroin123 2 years ago
@henroin123
So many people enjoy such crap and i thought to appeal to the majority.
Renorack 2 years ago
your not from scotland.
dont lie.
liar.
gtfhoe69 2 years ago
The last point is terrible. The people I know who take the most drugs are the wealthiest. They can afford them. And they buy more expensive drugs than say, cannabis.
boovidge 2 years ago
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gruphenio 2 years ago
nice beard dude
YorkshireJunkiesco 2 years ago
i don't see why most people are so against the legalisation of drugs. The economy is in the gutters on the verge of collapse & people are worried about people abusing drugs. Legalise them & tax them. More income less drug raids less resources spent & importantly foreign countries depending on selling drugs to us will collapse. The drug cartells will lose so much they won't afford to pay their soldiers or keep them well equiped. In my opinion this is the best and quickest way to wolrd peace.
Renorack 2 years ago