One does NOT need lasers to rebuild a P51H or any other variant. To my experience that's always been an indication of someone not knowing any other way of doing a simple job such as two dimensional cutting of sheet stock aluminum. Honestly this is a very big reason this country is no longer capable of manufacturing. "Thinking out of the box" is impossible when everyone is tied to an F*ing computer. I was going to offer encouragement, but if it ain't gonna fly... then WHY?
Help me understand this. What would be radioactive other than the cockpit instrument bezels or cockpit gear? And why would the USAF brutally remove them with a saw when a simple set of hand tools would likely do the trick? And they did this in the late 1990s on a historic P-51H, one of the rarest of surviving examples? With a saw?
@FiveCentsPlease From what I remember him saying, it was something under, or behind the seat. But can't remember what he was referring to. They've done an excellent job to the exterior, and they are replacing all parts with new, laser cut pieces from diagrams. But said that it will still not fly after restoration.
Angryace13: according to Robert Gruenhagen's authoritative book "Mustang", p. 185, the Packard Merlin 1650-9 that serviced the P-51H developed 1,690 bhp at war emergency power at 10,000 ft, and 1,830 bhp on take-off at 80" manifold or 1,380 bph on take-off at 60" manifold pressure. P.190 states P-51H had two wind fuel tanks. Hope this helps. If this truly is an H restoration, it will be the first I am aware of.
actually i just looked it up, and it creates somewhere around 2,200hp with W.E.P with the rolls royce packard merlin V1650-9 v12, 1,695hp is the P-51D mustangs v1650-7 with military power, and the p-51b has a v1650-3 with 1,590hp with military power. thanks XD
Would be curious to know your source too, as this is different than what Gruenhagen's book says. Also you are probably already aware the fuel tank aft of the cockpit caused some stability problems which were solved by the dorsal fillet on front of vertical stabilizer in the D model and using a taller vertical stabilizer in the H model. Too bad the H never saw combat - would have been faster than the D.
yea some books say different things, there are some sources on wicipedia, but i always went beyond that knowing they have tendencies to be wrong. and sources all over the Internet, also my friend has shown me several links to help me answer my question, i know for a fact that the P-51D mustangs engine does create 1,695hp and im pretty sure the v1650-9 in the P-51H creates 2,200hp with W.E.P or more. but i am fully exceptive of the fact i could be wrong.
I agree with your numbers for sure on the D model. I have read several sources that give those numbers. Very few I have read give any for the H, since it was not nearly as much used or produced. But I would suspect the numbers you give could be right for the H too. It was documented to be considerably faster than the D as well.
hay bud, i have a question, the D mustang had a 1,695HP rolls Royce Packard merlin v1650-7 so how much horsepower did the P-51H's v1650-9 create, i hear 2,000hp but just wanted to make sure...
and were where the main fuel tanks on the mustang?
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One does NOT need lasers to rebuild a P51H or any other variant. To my experience that's always been an indication of someone not knowing any other way of doing a simple job such as two dimensional cutting of sheet stock aluminum. Honestly this is a very big reason this country is no longer capable of manufacturing. "Thinking out of the box" is impossible when everyone is tied to an F*ing computer. I was going to offer encouragement, but if it ain't gonna fly... then WHY?
paullubliner 3 weeks ago
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paullubliner 3 weeks ago
So this won't be a flying restoration
rustyATV 1 year ago
@rustyATV Nope. He said that its still owned by the USAF, so can't be flown. Or at least by civilians probably.
level247 1 year ago
Help me understand this. What would be radioactive other than the cockpit instrument bezels or cockpit gear? And why would the USAF brutally remove them with a saw when a simple set of hand tools would likely do the trick? And they did this in the late 1990s on a historic P-51H, one of the rarest of surviving examples? With a saw?
FiveCentsPlease 1 year ago
@FiveCentsPlease From what I remember him saying, it was something under, or behind the seat. But can't remember what he was referring to. They've done an excellent job to the exterior, and they are replacing all parts with new, laser cut pieces from diagrams. But said that it will still not fly after restoration.
level247 1 year ago
I am in love
WakeUpDummies 2 years ago
by the way thats a nice plane, i wish i had the privilege to work on a P-51.
angryace13 2 years ago
Angryace13: according to Robert Gruenhagen's authoritative book "Mustang", p. 185, the Packard Merlin 1650-9 that serviced the P-51H developed 1,690 bhp at war emergency power at 10,000 ft, and 1,830 bhp on take-off at 80" manifold or 1,380 bph on take-off at 60" manifold pressure. P.190 states P-51H had two wind fuel tanks. Hope this helps. If this truly is an H restoration, it will be the first I am aware of.
fbenenati 2 years ago
Sorry I misspelled "wing" at end of fourth line. Meant to say "two wing fuel tanks". My apologies
fbenenati 2 years ago
its cool, yes this helps, i figured the fuel tanks where in the wings, and one aft fuel tank behind the cockpit.
angryace13 2 years ago
actually i just looked it up, and it creates somewhere around 2,200hp with W.E.P with the rolls royce packard merlin V1650-9 v12, 1,695hp is the P-51D mustangs v1650-7 with military power, and the p-51b has a v1650-3 with 1,590hp with military power. thanks XD
angryace13 2 years ago
Would be curious to know your source too, as this is different than what Gruenhagen's book says. Also you are probably already aware the fuel tank aft of the cockpit caused some stability problems which were solved by the dorsal fillet on front of vertical stabilizer in the D model and using a taller vertical stabilizer in the H model. Too bad the H never saw combat - would have been faster than the D.
fbenenati 2 years ago
yea some books say different things, there are some sources on wicipedia, but i always went beyond that knowing they have tendencies to be wrong. and sources all over the Internet, also my friend has shown me several links to help me answer my question, i know for a fact that the P-51D mustangs engine does create 1,695hp and im pretty sure the v1650-9 in the P-51H creates 2,200hp with W.E.P or more. but i am fully exceptive of the fact i could be wrong.
angryace13 2 years ago
I agree with your numbers for sure on the D model. I have read several sources that give those numbers. Very few I have read give any for the H, since it was not nearly as much used or produced. But I would suspect the numbers you give could be right for the H too. It was documented to be considerably faster than the D as well.
fbenenati 2 years ago
ooh yes the h was much faster than the D.
angryace13 2 years ago
hay bud, i have a question, the D mustang had a 1,695HP rolls Royce Packard merlin v1650-7 so how much horsepower did the P-51H's v1650-9 create, i hear 2,000hp but just wanted to make sure...
and were where the main fuel tanks on the mustang?
angryace13 2 years ago
Sorry, misspelled "wing" at end of fourth line. Meant to say two wing fuel tanks, not two wind fuel tanks. My bad.
fbenenati 2 years ago