2.4l turbo should smoke a naturally aspirated 2.0 right fron the start, but the civic hung on, thats engineering, that civic can drive 200k miles liek that, srt 1/4th of that
@DJOgurchik how can people be so quick to speak out of their ass? the SRTs have been a limited production vehicle made from 03-06. how the hell are you going to compare the reliability or the life of a vehicle when the SRT is still not even 10 years old?!? and a 2.4 Turbo VS a 2.0 N/A is only part of the equation simple one. weight, aerodynamics, power to weight, gearing, traction all play into racing. youre comparing a boosted heavier car against a N/A smaller and much lighter vehicle.
@formking Im not hating on the srt. Weight is a thing that sets them apart, but cmon if honda can build a light car, then dodge can do it too, keep the same engine and you got a beast, it will be so light with 2.4 turbo, if you tubro a civic si it gets 0-60 like 5.5 if tuned, and turbo kit doesnt weight that much
@DJOgurchik i see what youre saying, but not every vehicle is going to be the same. its a pretty steady correlation with heavier cars making more power. basically it comes down to power to weight, and preference.
i have a stock integra type r boosted...no internals...and i be smashin on srt4 and wrx all day...to me honda is best... of course a si is not goin to keep up with a turbo car....when have you seen honda made a turbo or supercharged rsx type s or an si model or even a typeR from the factory??
yeah thats not a fully built k series, if ti was your stock srt-4 would have gotten rapped. ive seen fully built N/A k cars run a train on modded srt-4's....
@maxredgizmo blah. sadly, anyone can say i have seen so and so race so and so and come up with this conclusion. was my SRT fully modded in this video? no. was his? no. but we raced anyways. his car against mine. i find it funny those who dont race, or have anything worth racing post opinions on things not belonging to them or created by them. this is directed at no one specific, just a general statement. those who talk about hondas killing it...go buy on, mod it, and post a video response.
Stick a turbo on the Si, then talk. SRT comes factory with a turbo, Si doesn't. The Si would've left that neon behind with a turbo. N/A vs. Turbo isn't exactly a fair fight.
@PsychoFreke but a car that weighs a fraction, with lower tq so it can launch better is? people need to understand there are a lot of factors and if the honda driver truly felt like it would have been unfair he wouldnt have asked to race me. in fact, he wouldnt have recorded and then sent me the video from his cell phone. race is a race. there are fast hondas, and fast SRTs. its preference
@formking two cars in the same class would be a fair race, actually. It's not impossible for NA to beat a turbo setup, but it depends on the car. Regardless, I'm not arguing. If the dude in the Si decided to see how he faired against a glorified Neon(don't mind me, I just hate all new Chrysler products), that's his business. I didn't know which of you asked to race the other, or which car was yours.
@PsychoFreke i understand. preference is another factor. yes, N/A can beat a turbo, its been done. my only point to try and make every factor 100% equal between cars would be useless and not as fun. credit is given where credit is due. but in the description i state my car is the SRT, its whatever. i dont even think the guy owns the honda anymore and actually might even be boosted now. except i dont even have the SRT anymore either, this was over 3 years ago, and the video is actually older
@formking This is true to an extent. That's one of many reasons I don't like Nascar, lol! However, if you were to race a circuit (which I would love to do) having two identical cars would prove the better driver, rather than the better car. I do see your point about the fun factor though (especially just messing around on the streets).
@MegaRussell12 You poor kids are lame. And not poor in money, poor in attitude. For one second do you think merely because I have a couple nice cars I am rich? Well...kind of, but that's not where I started off. I do not need to bring up my history, or how I lived on the streets for about 6 months before turning everything around. People like you who troll with your useless statements make me sad for the World. Grow up, this upload is older than 3 years, and the video itself even older.
ima keep it real them Srts got balls! man i ran one in my gsr when i was just bolts on and got that ass spanked ! i swaped and went fully built b20 vtec and got this gray srt from my block but barely. you cant just run up on them if u aint got your shit right! its my favorite non jdm car.
i have an Si my self i raced a srt4 had a upgraded bov and full exhuast..i had 3 people in my car and he got me by a car and a half, if you think about it he easily is pushin 220 hp i got 200 thats good for a non aspirated car!! :)
that Si is weak. shoulda pumped that bush ass neon hard. buddy couldnt shift, u can hear his shiftpoint man shoulda stayed in VTEC way way wayyyyyyyyy longer.
@yfz450rider2004 honda much smaller, more aerodynamic, and much lighter. there isnt always going to be a 100% equal race between 100% equally matched vehicles.
@datboyg90 sigh. you should really do some research so that you avoid that awkward moment where you look like a comlete idiot. hey, what do you know...one of those moments. lowest power made stock was with the 03 model which had 525cc injectors (opposed to 575cc injectors in later models). dynoed a little over 230 with a hot intercooler which allowed them to underrate the vehicle. proven tests actually show over 230 at the wheels. nice try though, go grab you helmet
@datboyg90 230 horses to the wheels is hardly weak, lol. I am almost sure you were seeing 206 to the crank, lol. And by short ram do you mean short ram intake? Just curious...because you're claiming stock...LOL. Fact still stands, anything coming stock with over 200 to the wheels is going to be a nice little fun ride. Especially since stock these were high 13 second cars.
@lurch1489 ha ha ha ha. dude, PLEASE. 12s arent even that fast, only when compared to stock cars. a lot of stock applications run 12s. my car ran 13.8 stock, and i dont know how fast the 1/4 mile was for my SRT at the time of this video. but yeah, keep feeling great about your grand prix and 12 secs, lol.
@formking dude, my grand prix runs 12 and none of my videos are faked. I will admit that my videos against other cars are lopsided and not good for compairison, but none of them are faked.
@lurch1489 i guess my idea of faked is different than yours. to me, lopsided for the sake of your "comparison" is faked. race for real, or dont try to bring other videos down. its easy to talk when all your racing vids are LOPSIDED
@lurch1489 dude you do drive a grand prix and for some reason in your videos the car your racing actually never shifts and then posts a video of them getting blown away.... not even the least bit faked
running from an argument? lol. you dont even know the first thing about tuning. yes, the d16z can be made into an 11 second car....you mind telling me what would need to be done? like exactly would need to be done. minus you know...looking up the website on honda forums where they marketed making a performance based d16. of course you dont.
your only reasons why the srt sucks is because of the iron block (that in itself is retarded) and it didnt go to nurburgring.
you can find it on his page. he has a toyota camry with tint and some uber cool stickers. but he does have links of OTHER peoples cars with THEIR achievements. its easy for pussy kids who dont have or cant do anything to talk shit.
People put d16 motors in the 11s or better street legal insured. registered with 5 grand or less invested. you can't even get a srt-4 for 5 grand and even if you do its in bad condition.
you spend a couple grand for an old ass civic. then a couple grand more for an entire swap assembly, then rebuilding, porting, honing the block, and MUCH more into the tranny to make it so. and thats not too cheap, but could be considered so if you did all the work yourself. unless youre a douche who doesnt know how to work a wrench has to pay someone else to piece it together, then whos the fool? its bang for buck and the srt pretty much has that HANDS DOWN
@Matt777shxt do not get a ep3!!! they are mudd slow. its the base model RSX k series in it. 160hp. alought the type r's are fast!! 210hp get the 06-10 si they are sexy, fast, and fun to drive! fg2 mutha sucka
@formking you can buy a civic hatch with a h2b swap that runs high 12s for under 7 grand, good luck finding a 12 second srt4 for 7 grand. and to run 12s with a h2b you just need bolt ons and a tune. a 12 second honda for 7 grand sounds like more bang for you buck than a pos neon that will do high 13s (if you can get it into 3rd gear) for 10 grand.
@formking not really i baught my civic hatch for 3 grand then an h22 and swapped in for 2300 so a total of 5300 and i bet its faster then some srt4 which by the way was made very cheap to not have power windows in the back just saying and hondas forks in the tranny can handle 400hp
@formking The best bang for the buck can be even better if you get SRT parts in a 1st gen Neon coupe with a 2.4l swap (400lbs less). But of course Hunduh cool people needs to take their rusty '95 Ceevic that saw 6 different engines before ending with a D16 turbo Frankenstein machination, and put it against an off-the-lot SRT4. Hell, the Ceevic weights even less than that since it's probably lost half of its body/frame/floors thanks to our dear friend rust.
@formking hell yea man i paid 5200 for my srt4 and it has 42k on it and all the bolt ons and is extremly fast. you cannot buy a si civic for less than 14k
@242pier when i classify a car as a pos or a good car i personally look at how much it costs, how old it is, how fast it is, how easy it is to make faster, how cheaply its made, and if it uses weak parts. the civic and the srt4 both score pretty much in the middle of those categories but i chose the srt4 cuz it does beat the civic in a few. so i know uve been going at this for quite a while so u cant really give up but u gotta know in ur head that srt4s arent really pieces of shit overall.
No what you guys need to realize is that srt-4s can be made fast but plenty of cars will beat it. The only time i see Honda's lose to srt-4s is when bull shit titles/descriptions are made. And or not even built Honda's at all. I surely hope you don't think age makes it a poser. Actually pretty sure you used that as an excuse.. how can you say the civic and srt-4 are the same thing when the fastest street honda is a hole second or more faster then your fastest street srt-4 which is using a auto.
@242pier im not saying there arent faster hondas. u said srt4s are pos cars and im telling u ur wrong. i dont think age makes it a poser. the older a car gets the more depreciation is going to affect it. thats y u can get a 93 civic for a couple grand so of course a 03-05srt4 is still gonna cost more. and like i told u before there is a 9 second 5sp street srt4. sure theres faster hondas but i still think srt4 owners can be proud of that. and i was just asking y 7-8 gens are slower than that.
Do you fail to read why i came in here? You were making excuses involving age with honda saying they have no safety and all that shit. Which was when i brought up a 69 camaro. 7-8 gens are more used for track use not 1/4 mile dang how heard is it for you to understand i have seen those newer gens win races on speed channel against camaros and other rwd cars.
@pier i was saying that the old hatches are very light because they didnt have to measure up to the safety standards of today. if u dont think so then maybe u can tell me y hatches are so light compared to newer civics. and im just saying how can srt4s be pos cars because there are civics that are faster than srt4s when there are also civics that are not as fast as srt4s. like i said before im not even saying srt4s are overall better cars than hondas. all im saying is they aint pos cars either.
And I'm saying everyone who think civics are crap and srt-4s are better are retarded as obviously the fastest street civics are faster then the fastest street srt-4's You can say srt-4s are not poser cars but the only people who are going to agree are other people who own them.
@242pier im not sure exactly what u mean by poser. i chose the srt4 because it was faster than a stock civic, very easy and cheap to mod for big gains, i preferred the looks over a civic, i liked the fact that srt4s were alot less common than civics so i wouldnt see cars exactly like mine everywhere, and it has a super sweet powerband with lots of torque. so i dont mind if u bad mouth an srt4 for things that are actually wrong with it but u cant call it a pos just cuz u dont like it. that all.
@242pier im actually glad when people see it as a glorified neon because they have an extra stupid look on their face when i beat them. thats much more enjoyment to me. i love when people look at and hear my car and think theyre gonna make me look stupid and i beat them. thats one of the best things about the srt4. most people dont know shit about them and they think they are gonna crush it but they cant because the srt4 is a pretty quick car.
@242pier what the hell are u talking about? like i said, the srt4 is faster than any civic that ever rolled off a honda assembly line. so y do u continue to talk shit? u have NO car so y would u think that the only respectable car is a heavily modded civic? ur ignorance is what makes it impossible to respect u at all.
@242pier fuck it dude ur not getting it. y would i buy a 20k n/a car when i can get a 20k turbo car that is faster and much easier to mod. that was the easy decision when it came to buying an srt4 or a civic si.
good for you. But if I'm going to spend 20 grand i would get me a evo or an sti.. But ten again i could just get a dsm or a older gen civic and spend the extra cash and go much faster.
@242pier well i was buying a brand new car. i didnt want a car that had over 100k miles on it and was 10-15 years old. if i had 30grand to buy a car at the time i wouldnt have bothered with an evo...i would have gotten a 03-04 cobra. however i did not have that kind of money for a car so for me the srt4 was the best choice.
@242pier The problem with buying the honda and modding it is your likely to get it stolen and your stuff stripped off. To my knowledge most insurance companies do not offer aftermarket parts coverage save a few, who charge dearly for it. Additionally, if you live in California like myself, its illegal to do the necessary mods to make it a fast car. There are always ways around the rules but for a quick car with the least amount of trouble I think the srt4 is a good value. Money is the only limit
@242pier I am not argueing your logic behind "tuning" a car to make it faster.....but it has always made me curious as to why it is so fun for people to take these cars that are 15 years old....ugly as fuck.....breaking down.....and then drop some motor in them and slap on a turbo and go ride around.
SRT-4 Is fast stock and can become MUCH faster with minimal money output.
It's a win-win situation in my book to go with the SRT.
@242pier 20k gets you an old beat up sti, an old beat up evo, a brand new srt4, or a civic in need of lots of mods and labor to keep up with any of the above mentioned.
sti's and evo's hold value like crazy. So getting a low mileage one is still gonna cost you around 30k.
Best bang for the buck award goes to the NSRT4. Today it is still the fastest car produced under 30k.
PS: i have been in all 4 mentioned cars, show no favorites, and appreciate all cars for what they are.
@TurboNeon185 wrong....the civic type R could give your neon a run for its money. But thats besides the point. IF you want a factory built "race car" then the SRT is for you. No of course a non turboed SI is not going to keep up with any factory turboed car. But if you invest a few grand into the SI, you can easily kill anything on the road. Its just the difference between wanting to work on a car, and not wanting to work on a car.
@umbc91 alright i misspoke. in america we dont have a type R. and like ive said before, im not claiming that the srt4 is an overall better car. im just arguing its not a pos. and actually it just depends on how much work u want to do. a few grand in bolt ons on an srt4 and u can kill most cars on the road. however to do the same on the si its gonna cost more and be alot more than just bolt ons. thats one of the best parts of having a car thats boosted from the factory.
@TurboNeon185 alright,,,,,,,matt777...dont listen to nurbo kid.........there is alot of options u can go with for the ep3....rsx type r k20........220hp stock......$5000........a few bolt ons and a hondata computer $1000 u would blow by srt4s easily with a good tune................................but if it was me i would buy an integra typer or eg hatch with a B18cr or lsturbo.............both fast
@umbc91 srt-4 cost less than a civic si . Put the money you gonna spend for the turbo installation for the civic on the srt-4 and you gonna have a 500hp srt-4.
@TurboNeon185 what the hell are you talking about sure the srt4 is faster than any civic that came rolled off the assembly line and thats cause the damn srt4 is turboed but i have a honda prelude that will beat any srt4 any time and if you would like to run it we can i live in asheville nc
alright pier this is it for me. heres MY point...i cant speak for anybody else. but do u remember where this started about 684 comments ago? u called the srt4 a POS. u havent really said anything that proves that other than its not the fastest car in the world. im pretty sure we all already knew that. but civics arent either. theres really fast cars, pos cars, and then all the ok-good cars in the middle. civics and srt4s both fall in this section.
I came on here because idiots were saying hondas suck srt-4s rule even though the fastest street fwd 4 cylinder car is a honda.. so yea hondas do not fail but since you think so what would that make your srt-4? at least honda has some deep 8s fwd street cars.
ill keep blocking you but thats only to protect innocent people from your incredible stupidity. i like how im the idiot and yet you cant even type WORDS correctly. i mean, blocking only takes the push of one button. but i know you have no life so keep making new accounts, lol.
also. you havent given one piece of legitimate factual intelligence. which was stated before, but ill do so again. MECHANICAL or ENGINEERING reasons why it sucks.
your facts are retarded. a midget doesnt back down from a bad ass mother fucker. gets the shit kicked out of him, but hey, he did it anyways so he must be way cool and strong. honda havent placed in the top 10 at the nordschleife in....i dont think they ever have.
so yes, hondas have gone to nurburgring but didnt place. so whats the fuss?
and yet i hear no talk about the suspension, or the camber, or the tranny. NOTHING factual, only videos of other cars not belonging to you going faster. youre a douche and an embarassment to the tuning world. any real tuner would see the pros and cons to any vehicle and provide factual intelligence (ie: mechanical or engineering reasons to prove your claim) instead you call srt owners fan boys but think yourself a cut above when you do the EXACT same thing. a huge fucking idiot
You neon guys are so cute lol. I could care less if I'm getting marked down. People can't handle the truth. Like i said before the srt-4 can be made to go fast but seriously their are plenty of other cars that can be made to go faster and you can't bull shit about it. I just find it funny you guys call civics crap yet the fastest street 4 cylinder car is a honda civic. So seriously what does that make your srt-4?
oh my fucking gosh. dude, you are an idiot. we prefer an srt so were fan boys. but someone who believes just as strongly about honda is...a true tuner? youre an idiot and everything you say only proves the fact more and more.
1.i believe shepards talon is the fastest street legal car
2.making a honda super fast includes SWAPPING out a different motor
3.once you get a fast tuned honda, will it perform in a circuit? nope
with all the different factors your only argument is the srt is a POS
hey man car sounds good, dont sweat this asshole you should know by now every honda owner get pissed when you say their blender motor go kart isnt fast. the funny thing is honda owners are all the same, either the cars are somewhat quick for what they are and their a shitbox or they wasted all their money makin their dick bigger with neon lights and rims and a cool shift knob and the cars slow as shit.
Man your a damn ricer. You honestly think your peon is a race car. and hey way to block me to try and make everyone feel like you won. Nice failed attempt rice boy. Hey i think the fast and the furious is coming on on hbo. Better go watch it so you can get your daily dose of rice and bull shit. And btw mod for mod a dsm will walk your shit. You can go and try and act like you know shit even though you don't, have fun in your pathetic life. you can go ahead and block this account to lol.
im sorry, is someone butthurt? i havent blocked you, why would i/. you only make yourself look like an idiot. oh no! i watched f&f! i must be ricer! but since you recognized the reference im going to assume you watched the movie also? ha ha ha, what a fucking loser.
heres an idea. in your next post, provide factual knowledge as to why the srt is a horrible car. go ahead....google and wiki can only save you so much but i doubt youll find anything to help your stupid ass in the department
Lol so why is it that couldn't comment on pier456 yet when i made a new account i could? I wouldn't be making another account if i still could now would I? Yea i watched the movie a lot of car peopel watched the movie and got some laughs out of it BUT you don't see me using lines form the movie now do you? Yea tool no common sense what so ever.
You completely think you know everything. You can;t handle the fact a lot of damn cars mod for mod are faster I HAVE GIVEN you FACTUAL KNOWLEDGE DUMBASS. I have vids on my homepage showing it dumbass. Your just to much of a pussy to admit your a complete tool who thinks his peon is a race car when its obviously not. SO since you worked on your peon with a few mods you think you know everything about cars now? Just give up dude.
you have OTHER peoples videos on your page. keep adding OTHER peoples achievements. and another way that just shows how much of a douche you are. take a picture of a car, that should mean you know how to build one. and what you dont understand is that just because ONE of my cars you dont like, you assume i dont know anything. until you provide factual knowledge as to why it sucks, youll be a cocksmoker blowing out your ass.
So you think you know everything about cars because you added a few parts? Seriously quit trying to brag over the internet. Your trying to hide the fact the srt-4 will get beat by plenty of cars. Just because i don't have vids of my cars DOESN'T mean everything i say is untrue dumbass. I HAVE been giving FACTUAL information over and over again. Do you fail to read?
Your telling me to get factual knowledge which i have been doing. Then when your ass gets put in your place you try to pull the " i don't own this" crap, Seriously quit trying to make excuses. When you look up 8 second street honda you get links full of them when you look up 8 second street srt-4 you don't see any.
When you look up nurburgring lap times you don't see the srt-4 yet you hondas on their Subaru is on their Mitsubishi is on their and more. bone stock k20 motors boosted make same or better times with aluminum blocks then your srt-4 that has a cast iron block. You regular dodge neon isn't making 700whp without race gas in a car with full interior and street legal. Which bisi's turbo d16 build is capable of doing. THESE ARE FACTS YOU keep asking for which YOU fail to realize i can go on and on.
Your a complete fucking moron. YOU FUCKING TOLD ME TO GET ACTUAL FACTS DUMBASS. OD you fail to reread what you fucking told me? YOUR telling ME to get FACTUAL information yet WHEN i show you it. YOU get all BUTT HURT over it and try to change the subject. Just because i don't have vids of my cars doesn't mean I'm WRONG DUMBASS. I HAVE BEEN GVING FACTUAL KNOWLEDGE.
@458pier dude u still havent given up yet?? u even made a new name to continue this shit?? so please..tell us all HOW IS THE SRT4 A PIECE OF SHIT?? its a question thats been asked of u 1000x but answered zero.
I have already given my reason. Apparently you still don't know how to read. Is your srt-4 on nurburgring lap times? Is their a 8 second street srt-4? No. Do your regular neons run 10s n/a and be street legal or run almost 9 flat all motor?
@458pier none of thoes mean that srt4s are pos cars. and none of us have said that hondas are pos cars. and u continue to say there are 8 second street civics and what not but ur not talking about any civics made in the last 10 yrs. where are all those. does that mean civics USED to be better than srt4s but ever since 2000 they are now also pieces of shit since there are faster street srt4s? if u have a car that has 8 gens u cant say its a better car just cuz ONE of those gens are quicker.
I know u haven't but others on this vid have which is funny to me because their are faster cars out their. Quit bitching about generations to, its not gonna get you anywhere. In the end th fastest street fwd 4 cylinder car is a honda No if's or but's about it. fastest 4 cylinder cars are dsms. And so on and soon. And their is defiantly more then 1 generation of hondas that are better. And if your still bitching about weight their are integras running 8s to street legal.
Also seeing as those older gens are lighter it will also mean more traction problems you will have to deal with right? Yea their lighter but doesn't mean they have no disadvantages. Your srt-4 is heavier and will be able to plant the tires to the ground better.
@458pier so its easier to say turbo against NA isnt fair but weight isnt an issue? there are heaps of cars that are incredible, underrated, and do not make the list of what you THINK makes a good race car.
yeah, lets argue why you made another account...INSTEAD of arguing the real point, why the SRT is a pos. still waiting...but i guess i alreagy guessed you would do this. you dont know shit
I'm still waiting to see how srt-4s can keep up with sti's and evos etc. dumbass. I have already proven your srt-4 is not the best thing out their. A jack load of cars mod for mod will be faster then a srt-4. The fastest street civic runs a 8.5 your srt-4 is not even close.
man, when i think you cant get any stupider you provide the information to prove how wrong we are. you havent provided one PIECE of factual intelligence. you say peon a million times, talk about other peoples achievements, and still have no idea what im talking about. its funny, i dont have vids of all the work i do, only a couple of my personal DD, but im a wannabe ricer. you have OTHER peoples videos but are nsomeone to be taken seriously? lol.
Your a complete fucking tool. I haven't give one piece of factual intelligence? Are you serious? I been giving facts for the past fucking comments moron. Hey how about instead of thinking you know everything which you keep on trying to pass on that you do. How about you actually look up the information before running your mouth like a dumbass bitch hmm? I been giving you facts. Quit getting butt hurt that your peon is not the best thing out their.
I already know and others that a dodge srt-4 can be built to go fast. Thing is their are faster cods mod for mod dumbass which you fail to realize and don't want to admit. No one believes the civic in this vid is fully built either so what kind of bull you trying to pull? your srt-4 with only a cat back at most will run like a mid 13s if lucky in the 1/4 mile. their are n/a d16 motors putting cars in the 12s street legal.
And your telling me a fully built si with a b16 can't pull on a pretty much a stock srt-4? You don't even need a built b16 to take out a srt-4. people have gone low 13s or faster on the stock bottom end.
Yes your right. Their is no bone stock k20 motor on 42psi. their is no 700whp turbo d16 not even running on race gas. The fastest street 4 cylidner fwd car is not a honda.. Their is no 9 second n/a hondas and or deep 10 second street hondas. Come on dude i can go all day u can denie it all you want.
im not a fan boy i love all cars but honda by far has the best i to me i own the king of honda a 88 EF9 with a D16z6 stock internals, si axels lowered with 2.5inch piping and a k20a has a hard time gettin away from me he beat me by 2/3 car length and i dont even drive it correctly yet haha i can chrip in every gear to
Yea your turbo srt-shit is turboed from the factory but your dodge peon is not so why don't i see it run similar times as n/a hondas? Look up bisis's freeken n/a builds with his fastest build running almost in the 8s all motor.
tsk tsk. i have a dodge neon now, not an srt? once again youre speaking theoretically. and only idiots would base their ENTIRE arguments on a theory. YOU have no race car, YOU have no tuning knowledge, YOU have no experience. but its easy to talk shit because you sit behind a computer and can add favorites of OTHER peoples rides and achievements. in your mind, theoritcally, you win. but in life you fail.
ha ha ha ha. these simple bolt ons were done 3 years ago. an incredibly old video. sounds like homogay douchebag still has yet to provide ANY factual knowledge. if a car with boltons is not a race car, please tell me what is?
oh ok, those are race cars eh? and please tell me...where do you see those driving down the street? i havent talked shit once, only proved you didnt know a damn thing. and to further prove my statement..how does one have a catback AND an exhaust system? last i checked the catback exhaust is an exhaust system....
Even though I don't like Hondas, I'm not gonna sit here & spit garbage. Read carefully. A well built Honda is something to look behind you for, as much as a well built Subaru or anything else for that matter:
My boy in NYC has a built B20B w/B18C1 head, forged internals (rods, pistons, B18C1 crank all from Mugen) & GSR tranny. He has no turbo & he is putting down 290hp/221lbs-ft in a 1993 EG hatch. The car looks JDM fresh. He has no videos up here but I would not underestimate his build at all.
This video is a great example how SRTs are slower than Hondas right?...you don't know shit about cars and its obvious so stop embarrasing yourself..stock for stock the SRT beats every Honda and can run with ANY dsm, STi, or EVO...fucking stock for stock first gen DOHC Neons (150 hp) run with most fucking Hondas..the SRT-4 is a FUCKING beast...FUCK YOU AND ALL THE FUCKING SPICS WHO DRIVE HONDAS
Wow dude you honestly think this Honda in the vid is fully rebuilt, forged internals, and higher compression ratio? Your a complete moron. Look up all motor civic vs srt-4 and watch your peon get waxed by a real all motor honda.
I Surely fucking hope your boosted 2.4 liter srt-4 can beat a n/a 2 liter honda dumbass and no you do not beat a s2k or a nsx dumbass PLEASE your a complete moron for saying every honda. Your just pissed your srt-4 is the most hated car and can't handle it. Get a tissue and blow your nose ok?
there is so much stupidity in your posts im scared to keep reading in case your retardedness is infectious. i loved my neon, and any true auto enthusiast would respect the car. but youre so set on your shortsighted beliefs you will never understand true tuning. show a video of a honda beating an srt, someone else will show a vid of an srt smoking a cobra, and the list goes on. pull your head out of your ass
LOL wow dude your telling me i am a fan boy look at yourself. Any true enthusiast knows that a peon is still a damn peon. Your acting like the peon will take on every single car known to man. And shortsighted beliefs? Go fucking youtube vids of 8 second street hondas dumbass. Don't get me started with dsms.
Are you seriously saying that the SRT-4 can run against evos and sti's stock? what the fuck are you smoking? I'd love to see that happen. next thing you know you'll say the srt-4 is the fastest car ever and can beat ferraris and such. stfu you stupid ass fanboy
I know right? You guys need to go on my homepage and watch bisi's 700whp sohc d16z street legal, full interior, reliable and no race gas needed. So how is your dodge peon doing?
fanboys=fail. i know a guy who i've talked to quite a few times says the 8th gen civics bone stock against a bone stock srt-4 are dead even. how so? he drives an srt-4. that was back then. now he's putting over 500 at the wheels. srt-4s fail because all the kids do that have them is put a different BOV on it and think its fast. but that guy has kudos because its obviously worked. soon my FG2 will be puttin down 420 at the wheels on only 10 psi, stock internals and reflash
the sad thing here...is as you make fun of fan boys you show yourself to be nothing better than a fanboy. what kind of race are you pitting them up against? track, circuit, drag....? the srt is good enough to race these cars stock for stock. dont forget to look at WHP of those cars when comparing. not to mention year. all 3 years for the srt had different stats as well as evos and stis.
yea your right.. I am a fanboy. I am a fanboy to hondas, stis,evos,supras,rx7s,bmws,mercedes, etc. etc. etc. Yea please tell me how i am a fanboy. Your another srt-4 fan boy that can't handle the damn truth. srt-4s maybe will keep up with sti's IN A STRAIGHT LINE but compared to a evo hell fucking no
2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII 5.1 13.5
2003 Dodge SRT-4 5.6 14.1
2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi 5.1 13.8
But hey sense your srt-4 can compete i should see it on nurburgring lap times right?
a fanboy of headlining cars doesnt make a difference. all you will ever be is a fanboy. not someone with actual knowledge, experience, and opinion. you have yet to provide any REAL factual opinion as to why the srt is a horrible car. and lets check the 04 srt which did the 1/4 at 13.9. now .1 of a second can come down to launch, rev line, driver, and temperature. to cost more than HALF and be only .1 of a second away stock? when you have actual proof instead of OTHER peoples vids come back
WOW seriously just shut up. You honestly think you know everything because you added a few mods to your srt-shit. I have not provided any real facts. LOL wow dude do you know how to use the search engine? First off stis and evos were made to do much more then what a srt-shit will ever do. From the factory those sti's and evos will handle auto xing/track racing, rallying, snow and more dumbass.
And your such a damn hypocrite your telling me to have actual proof instead of using other peoples videos. Yet You have no PROOF your srt-4 will easily keep up with a evo or a sti.
i think i know everything? ha ha ha, more of your pussy insecurity. not once did i ever state as much. mechanics and engineering change every day so its impossible for anyone to know EVERYTHING. but of course an idiot like you wouldnt understand that. let alone what true tuning is. and youre also assuming that i have done nothing due to an OLD video which is ONE of my daily drivers.
How am i insecured when I'm telling the truth? And you obviously have no common sense either as obviously you won't know everything even though YOU keep acting like YOU do.
im not acting like i know everything, what i am saying is truth. no acting, no presumption, and no retarded biases. if what you said was truth about the srts, you would hace FACTUAL knowledge as to why. and yet....i see nothing. i see an idiot running in circles really really fast
Did you not read my comments before? The guy had a worked srt4 that was legitamately fast. I admitted he had a fast car. Although I may not like srt4s, i still gave the guy kudos. the srt4 can be a fast car, but we both know there are kids who thinks its the fastest thing ever. And there is no possible way that the srt4 would keep up with the evos and stis stock for stock on either the circuit and drag. the stis and evos are just on a completely different performance level compared to the srt4.
that comment wasnt directed at you.and of course the srt wont keep up at a circuit or track, just like how a minivan wont do well at the drags. its not what it was designed to do. the srt was made to be a quick rocket out of the box, cheap, and burn rubber in a straight line. and really the only thing seperating the evo/sti from the srt is the AWD systems and suspension. the srt was designed fromt he beginning to be a limited car. they werent aiming for circuit times. bang for buck itsincredible
Now your making excuses why your srt-shit can't keep up. Wait a minute didn't you just say your srt-4 was good enough to keep up? Lol your so grounded coffee looks at you and says DAMN. If they were made for bang for the buck why is it that hondas, dsms, 5.0s etc. do it better?
im sorry, a dsm? it was nearly outperformed by the prelude. and the 2g eclipse/talon was the only OK model to come from dsm. and yes, i said CAN keep up. but it also depends on the type of racing. you use google and wikipedia for the limited amount of information you provide only proving you know NOTHING. you can read, barely and comprehend the written language even less
rebult and still gets beat by that much wow
GEO3535 3 months ago in playlist Civic Si
Civic sounds like shit my ion redline will rape it
weaponzerox2 4 months ago
get a swap
Jdm707panda 6 months ago
Civic killa
Dramasrt4 7 months ago
7 Honda Civic owners are upset that there isn't any car in the world that can't beat them.
MichaelCosta84 8 months ago 2
Mods the Civic Si a bit more. I have a turbo RSX-S. I lvoe boosted K20's
MaddDogg81 9 months ago
My car would eat both of them anyway.
bulegold56 10 months ago
is it me or did the kid at the end kinda sound like mClovin?
stewgjeff 11 months ago
omg u lowered the ass end of it?! looks sick. i needa do that to mine, i hate how it sticks up a little bit. shouldnt have lost the wing tho..
oh and nice car :)
just13lazed 1 year ago
2.4l turbo should smoke a naturally aspirated 2.0 right fron the start, but the civic hung on, thats engineering, that civic can drive 200k miles liek that, srt 1/4th of that
DJOgurchik 1 year ago
@DJOgurchik how can people be so quick to speak out of their ass? the SRTs have been a limited production vehicle made from 03-06. how the hell are you going to compare the reliability or the life of a vehicle when the SRT is still not even 10 years old?!? and a 2.4 Turbo VS a 2.0 N/A is only part of the equation simple one. weight, aerodynamics, power to weight, gearing, traction all play into racing. youre comparing a boosted heavier car against a N/A smaller and much lighter vehicle.
formking 8 months ago
@formking Im not hating on the srt. Weight is a thing that sets them apart, but cmon if honda can build a light car, then dodge can do it too, keep the same engine and you got a beast, it will be so light with 2.4 turbo, if you tubro a civic si it gets 0-60 like 5.5 if tuned, and turbo kit doesnt weight that much
DJOgurchik 8 months ago
@DJOgurchik i see what youre saying, but not every vehicle is going to be the same. its a pretty steady correlation with heavier cars making more power. basically it comes down to power to weight, and preference.
formking 8 months ago
i have a stock integra type r boosted...no internals...and i be smashin on srt4 and wrx all day...to me honda is best... of course a si is not goin to keep up with a turbo car....when have you seen honda made a turbo or supercharged rsx type s or an si model or even a typeR from the factory??
ceaz1R 1 year ago
Hahaha, even a sxt neon can beat a civic! go home rice burners! SRT-4 for life!!!!
OmegaZeris27 1 year ago
yeah thats not a fully built k series, if ti was your stock srt-4 would have gotten rapped. ive seen fully built N/A k cars run a train on modded srt-4's....
maxredgizmo 1 year ago
@maxredgizmo blah. sadly, anyone can say i have seen so and so race so and so and come up with this conclusion. was my SRT fully modded in this video? no. was his? no. but we raced anyways. his car against mine. i find it funny those who dont race, or have anything worth racing post opinions on things not belonging to them or created by them. this is directed at no one specific, just a general statement. those who talk about hondas killing it...go buy on, mod it, and post a video response.
formking 8 months ago
Stick a turbo on the Si, then talk. SRT comes factory with a turbo, Si doesn't. The Si would've left that neon behind with a turbo. N/A vs. Turbo isn't exactly a fair fight.
PsychoFreke 1 year ago
@PsychoFreke but a car that weighs a fraction, with lower tq so it can launch better is? people need to understand there are a lot of factors and if the honda driver truly felt like it would have been unfair he wouldnt have asked to race me. in fact, he wouldnt have recorded and then sent me the video from his cell phone. race is a race. there are fast hondas, and fast SRTs. its preference
formking 8 months ago
@formking two cars in the same class would be a fair race, actually. It's not impossible for NA to beat a turbo setup, but it depends on the car. Regardless, I'm not arguing. If the dude in the Si decided to see how he faired against a glorified Neon(don't mind me, I just hate all new Chrysler products), that's his business. I didn't know which of you asked to race the other, or which car was yours.
PsychoFreke 8 months ago
@PsychoFreke i understand. preference is another factor. yes, N/A can beat a turbo, its been done. my only point to try and make every factor 100% equal between cars would be useless and not as fun. credit is given where credit is due. but in the description i state my car is the SRT, its whatever. i dont even think the guy owns the honda anymore and actually might even be boosted now. except i dont even have the SRT anymore either, this was over 3 years ago, and the video is actually older
formking 8 months ago
@formking This is true to an extent. That's one of many reasons I don't like Nascar, lol! However, if you were to race a circuit (which I would love to do) having two identical cars would prove the better driver, rather than the better car. I do see your point about the fun factor though (especially just messing around on the streets).
PsychoFreke 8 months ago
@formking you rich kids are lame. getting a different car every other year. thats gay.
MegaRussell12 3 months ago
@MegaRussell12 You poor kids are lame. And not poor in money, poor in attitude. For one second do you think merely because I have a couple nice cars I am rich? Well...kind of, but that's not where I started off. I do not need to bring up my history, or how I lived on the streets for about 6 months before turning everything around. People like you who troll with your useless statements make me sad for the World. Grow up, this upload is older than 3 years, and the video itself even older.
formking 3 months ago
nice shifting, u lost worse cuz of that gay shifting crap
HondoS2k 1 year ago
k20 is a better engine and and the si is a better quality car. neon might of one but it really loss. just my take
muscle2tuner 1 year ago
@muscle2tuner you dont make much sense. please explain how it is a better built car.
formking 8 months ago
the guy started to cry at the end lol
SOEPIC666 1 year ago
Civic's make better Race Cars HANDS DOWN!!! But it depends on what your looking for in a car.
MegaMarshal 1 year ago
them srts got balls!
B20vtec100 1 year ago
ima keep it real them Srts got balls! man i ran one in my gsr when i was just bolts on and got that ass spanked ! i swaped and went fully built b20 vtec and got this gray srt from my block but barely. you cant just run up on them if u aint got your shit right! its my favorite non jdm car.
B20vtec100 1 year ago
i have an Si my self i raced a srt4 had a upgraded bov and full exhuast..i had 3 people in my car and he got me by a car and a half, if you think about it he easily is pushin 220 hp i got 200 thats good for a non aspirated car!! :)
Molinar04 1 year ago
lol power shifting ftl
OxCt805 1 year ago
a junk
poszla
matiuszwrc 1 year ago
lol you have no idea how to drive that civic if ur letting a dodge beat you.
NextGenH4X 1 year ago
that Si is weak. shoulda pumped that bush ass neon hard. buddy couldnt shift, u can hear his shiftpoint man shoulda stayed in VTEC way way wayyyyyyyyy longer.
smokedaicebrah 1 year ago
the civic have 197 hp and the srt4 have 230...not rly fair
yfz450rider2004 1 year ago
@yfz450rider2004 honda much smaller, more aerodynamic, and much lighter. there isnt always going to be a 100% equal race between 100% equally matched vehicles.
formking 8 months ago
str 4's are fucken trash......215hp with a turbo...hahaha....fucken weak ass shit'z
datboyg90 1 year ago
@datboyg90 sigh. you should really do some research so that you avoid that awkward moment where you look like a comlete idiot. hey, what do you know...one of those moments. lowest power made stock was with the 03 model which had 525cc injectors (opposed to 575cc injectors in later models). dynoed a little over 230 with a hot intercooler which allowed them to underrate the vehicle. proven tests actually show over 230 at the wheels. nice try though, go grab you helmet
formking 8 months ago
@formking oh wow 230 to hp epic fail.. THATS STILL WEAK.. im doing 206 stock! short ram or nothing
datboyg90 3 months ago
@datboyg90 230 horses to the wheels is hardly weak, lol. I am almost sure you were seeing 206 to the crank, lol. And by short ram do you mean short ram intake? Just curious...because you're claiming stock...LOL. Fact still stands, anything coming stock with over 200 to the wheels is going to be a nice little fun ride. Especially since stock these were high 13 second cars.
formking 2 weeks ago
turbo vs NA honda ...that was a pretty good race
ltelty666 1 year ago
@ltelty666 it was a decent race between street, daily driven vehicles. he was cool with it, i was cool with it, we had fun.
formking 8 months ago
both of these cars are slow as shit.
lurch1489 1 year ago
@lurch1489 dude...you drive a grand prix. and your "videos" for comparison are extremely faked, lol. but nice try
formking 8 months ago 4
@formking my car runs 12s. so I will say again, these cars are slow as shit.
lurch1489 8 months ago
@lurch1489 ha ha ha ha. dude, PLEASE. 12s arent even that fast, only when compared to stock cars. a lot of stock applications run 12s. my car ran 13.8 stock, and i dont know how fast the 1/4 mile was for my SRT at the time of this video. but yeah, keep feeling great about your grand prix and 12 secs, lol.
formking 8 months ago 3
@formking dude, my grand prix runs 12 and none of my videos are faked. I will admit that my videos against other cars are lopsided and not good for compairison, but none of them are faked.
lurch1489 8 months ago
@lurch1489 i guess my idea of faked is different than yours. to me, lopsided for the sake of your "comparison" is faked. race for real, or dont try to bring other videos down. its easy to talk when all your racing vids are LOPSIDED
formking 8 months ago 2
@lurch1489 dude you do drive a grand prix and for some reason in your videos the car your racing actually never shifts and then posts a video of them getting blown away.... not even the least bit faked
plsarestupid 8 months ago 2
The Civic was power shifting like FUCK lol
vtecsux85 1 year ago 2
running from an argument? lol. you dont even know the first thing about tuning. yes, the d16z can be made into an 11 second car....you mind telling me what would need to be done? like exactly would need to be done. minus you know...looking up the website on honda forums where they marketed making a performance based d16. of course you dont.
your only reasons why the srt sucks is because of the iron block (that in itself is retarded) and it didnt go to nurburgring.
its obvious youre a fool
formking 1 year ago
I would like to see that civic. can you send me a link to a video.
b0rd3rpatr01 1 year ago
you can find it on his page. he has a toyota camry with tint and some uber cool stickers. but he does have links of OTHER peoples cars with THEIR achievements. its easy for pussy kids who dont have or cant do anything to talk shit.
formking 1 year ago
People put d16 motors in the 11s or better street legal insured. registered with 5 grand or less invested. you can't even get a srt-4 for 5 grand and even if you do its in bad condition.
242pier 1 year ago
you spend a couple grand for an old ass civic. then a couple grand more for an entire swap assembly, then rebuilding, porting, honing the block, and MUCH more into the tranny to make it so. and thats not too cheap, but could be considered so if you did all the work yourself. unless youre a douche who doesnt know how to work a wrench has to pay someone else to piece it together, then whos the fool? its bang for buck and the srt pretty much has that HANDS DOWN
formking 1 year ago 13
I'm glad you know what you are talking about...
n1ckmsrt 1 year ago
Idk if i should get an 03 civic si... Whats youre opinion? are they fast? Can you make them fast? lol
Matt777shxt 1 year ago
@Matt777shxt 06+ is fast... previous generation is not that fast... and they have way to soft frame...
LAVASTICK 1 year ago
@Matt777shxt do not get a ep3!!! they are mudd slow. its the base model RSX k series in it. 160hp. alought the type r's are fast!! 210hp get the 06-10 si they are sexy, fast, and fun to drive! fg2 mutha sucka
Molinar04 1 year ago
@Matt777shxt
You can make anything fast, civics and neons are still kinda shitty cars though.
0453567 1 year ago
@Matt777shxt The 03 Civic Si has a K20. I have a turbo RSX-S and love it
MaddDogg81 1 year ago
@MaddDogg81 i turboed an RSX-S. it is a beast vehicle, and is another awesome contender for fast ass FWD vehicles.
formking 8 months ago
@Matt777shxt no they are slow as shit
stairmaster3001 9 months ago
@Matt777shxt and the 2003 Civic Si is just the 160hp K20, not too fast but not bad
MaddDogg81 8 months ago
@formking you can buy a civic hatch with a h2b swap that runs high 12s for under 7 grand, good luck finding a 12 second srt4 for 7 grand. and to run 12s with a h2b you just need bolt ons and a tune. a 12 second honda for 7 grand sounds like more bang for you buck than a pos neon that will do high 13s (if you can get it into 3rd gear) for 10 grand.
survivorsmiraculous 1 year ago
or you buy a h2b swapped civic hatch that runs high 12s for 7 grand and walk srt's daily. now whos got more bang for the buck
survivorsmiraculous 1 year ago
@formking You guys both have legitimate points. However, my D16Z6 has a nice 12.06:1 cr, and does low 12's. And it only costed me about $1,100.
beenohopps 1 year ago
@formking not really i baught my civic hatch for 3 grand then an h22 and swapped in for 2300 so a total of 5300 and i bet its faster then some srt4 which by the way was made very cheap to not have power windows in the back just saying and hondas forks in the tranny can handle 400hp
soulstealer313 1 year ago
@formking srt4 is a beast yes but wat if the si had a facotry turbo boosting the same as the mopar? then i believe imo the si wud b king
xxnissansilviaxx 1 year ago
@formking its a neon haha junk
iSHIFTat9GRAND 1 year ago
@formking The best bang for the buck can be even better if you get SRT parts in a 1st gen Neon coupe with a 2.4l swap (400lbs less). But of course Hunduh cool people needs to take their rusty '95 Ceevic that saw 6 different engines before ending with a D16 turbo Frankenstein machination, and put it against an off-the-lot SRT4. Hell, the Ceevic weights even less than that since it's probably lost half of its body/frame/floors thanks to our dear friend rust.
Ryunaro 1 year ago
@formking hell yea man i paid 5200 for my srt4 and it has 42k on it and all the bolt ons and is extremly fast. you cannot buy a si civic for less than 14k
stairmaster3001 9 months ago
@242pier dude your a jackass your not pulling 11's for 5 grand
nickv11763 1 year ago
@242pier agreeed honda ftw
xxnissansilviaxx 1 year ago
@242pier when i classify a car as a pos or a good car i personally look at how much it costs, how old it is, how fast it is, how easy it is to make faster, how cheaply its made, and if it uses weak parts. the civic and the srt4 both score pretty much in the middle of those categories but i chose the srt4 cuz it does beat the civic in a few. so i know uve been going at this for quite a while so u cant really give up but u gotta know in ur head that srt4s arent really pieces of shit overall.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
No what you guys need to realize is that srt-4s can be made fast but plenty of cars will beat it. The only time i see Honda's lose to srt-4s is when bull shit titles/descriptions are made. And or not even built Honda's at all. I surely hope you don't think age makes it a poser. Actually pretty sure you used that as an excuse.. how can you say the civic and srt-4 are the same thing when the fastest street honda is a hole second or more faster then your fastest street srt-4 which is using a auto.
242pier 1 year ago
@242pier im not saying there arent faster hondas. u said srt4s are pos cars and im telling u ur wrong. i dont think age makes it a poser. the older a car gets the more depreciation is going to affect it. thats y u can get a 93 civic for a couple grand so of course a 03-05srt4 is still gonna cost more. and like i told u before there is a 9 second 5sp street srt4. sure theres faster hondas but i still think srt4 owners can be proud of that. and i was just asking y 7-8 gens are slower than that.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
Do you fail to read why i came in here? You were making excuses involving age with honda saying they have no safety and all that shit. Which was when i brought up a 69 camaro. 7-8 gens are more used for track use not 1/4 mile dang how heard is it for you to understand i have seen those newer gens win races on speed channel against camaros and other rwd cars.
242pier 1 year ago
@pier i was saying that the old hatches are very light because they didnt have to measure up to the safety standards of today. if u dont think so then maybe u can tell me y hatches are so light compared to newer civics. and im just saying how can srt4s be pos cars because there are civics that are faster than srt4s when there are also civics that are not as fast as srt4s. like i said before im not even saying srt4s are overall better cars than hondas. all im saying is they aint pos cars either.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
And I'm saying everyone who think civics are crap and srt-4s are better are retarded as obviously the fastest street civics are faster then the fastest street srt-4's You can say srt-4s are not poser cars but the only people who are going to agree are other people who own them.
242pier 1 year ago
@242pier im not sure exactly what u mean by poser. i chose the srt4 because it was faster than a stock civic, very easy and cheap to mod for big gains, i preferred the looks over a civic, i liked the fact that srt4s were alot less common than civics so i wouldnt see cars exactly like mine everywhere, and it has a super sweet powerband with lots of torque. so i dont mind if u bad mouth an srt4 for things that are actually wrong with it but u cant call it a pos just cuz u dont like it. that all.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
I'm just saying, a lot of people will still call them posers. yea srt-4s are less common but all people are seeing is a glorified neon.
242pier 1 year ago
@242pier im actually glad when people see it as a glorified neon because they have an extra stupid look on their face when i beat them. thats much more enjoyment to me. i love when people look at and hear my car and think theyre gonna make me look stupid and i beat them. thats one of the best things about the srt4. most people dont know shit about them and they think they are gonna crush it but they cant because the srt4 is a pretty quick car.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
Well you need to stop racing stock si's and geo mteros.
242pier 1 year ago
@242pier what the hell are u talking about? like i said, the srt4 is faster than any civic that ever rolled off a honda assembly line. so y do u continue to talk shit? u have NO car so y would u think that the only respectable car is a heavily modded civic? ur ignorance is what makes it impossible to respect u at all.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
I surely hope a boosted car is faster then a n/a car. And how am i ignorant? I been naming off multiplier cars and can name off more.
242pier 1 year ago
Obviously this civic in this vid is not fully built either.
242pier 1 year ago
@242pier fuck it dude ur not getting it. y would i buy a 20k n/a car when i can get a 20k turbo car that is faster and much easier to mod. that was the easy decision when it came to buying an srt4 or a civic si.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
good for you. But if I'm going to spend 20 grand i would get me a evo or an sti.. But ten again i could just get a dsm or a older gen civic and spend the extra cash and go much faster.
242pier 1 year ago
@242pier well i was buying a brand new car. i didnt want a car that had over 100k miles on it and was 10-15 years old. if i had 30grand to buy a car at the time i wouldnt have bothered with an evo...i would have gotten a 03-04 cobra. however i did not have that kind of money for a car so for me the srt4 was the best choice.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago 12
@TurboNeon185 mee to man,they are good cars for the money
stairmaster3001 9 months ago
@242pier The problem with buying the honda and modding it is your likely to get it stolen and your stuff stripped off. To my knowledge most insurance companies do not offer aftermarket parts coverage save a few, who charge dearly for it. Additionally, if you live in California like myself, its illegal to do the necessary mods to make it a fast car. There are always ways around the rules but for a quick car with the least amount of trouble I think the srt4 is a good value. Money is the only limit
mumbles005 1 year ago
@242pier I am not argueing your logic behind "tuning" a car to make it faster.....but it has always made me curious as to why it is so fun for people to take these cars that are 15 years old....ugly as fuck.....breaking down.....and then drop some motor in them and slap on a turbo and go ride around.
SRT-4 Is fast stock and can become MUCH faster with minimal money output.
It's a win-win situation in my book to go with the SRT.
TheChrisRWaldrop 1 year ago
@242pier 20k gets you an old beat up sti, an old beat up evo, a brand new srt4, or a civic in need of lots of mods and labor to keep up with any of the above mentioned.
sti's and evo's hold value like crazy. So getting a low mileage one is still gonna cost you around 30k.
Best bang for the buck award goes to the NSRT4. Today it is still the fastest car produced under 30k.
PS: i have been in all 4 mentioned cars, show no favorites, and appreciate all cars for what they are.
RandySRT 9 months ago
@TurboNeon185 wrong....the civic type R could give your neon a run for its money. But thats besides the point. IF you want a factory built "race car" then the SRT is for you. No of course a non turboed SI is not going to keep up with any factory turboed car. But if you invest a few grand into the SI, you can easily kill anything on the road. Its just the difference between wanting to work on a car, and not wanting to work on a car.
umbc91 1 year ago
@umbc91 alright i misspoke. in america we dont have a type R. and like ive said before, im not claiming that the srt4 is an overall better car. im just arguing its not a pos. and actually it just depends on how much work u want to do. a few grand in bolt ons on an srt4 and u can kill most cars on the road. however to do the same on the si its gonna cost more and be alot more than just bolt ons. thats one of the best parts of having a car thats boosted from the factory.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
@TurboNeon185 alright,,,,,,,matt777...dont listen to nurbo kid.........there is alot of options u can go with for the ep3....rsx type r k20........220hp stock......$5000........a few bolt ons and a hondata computer $1000 u would blow by srt4s easily with a good tune................................but if it was me i would buy an integra typer or eg hatch with a B18cr or lsturbo.............both fast
Tresckow18254 1 year ago
@TurboNeon185 The only Type- R we had was the Integra Type-R. In europ they got all sorts of Type-R's
diablo93ib 1 year ago
@umbc91 srt-4 cost less than a civic si . Put the money you gonna spend for the turbo installation for the civic on the srt-4 and you gonna have a 500hp srt-4.
Paradismax 1 year ago
@umbc91 , well actually speed's just a question of money: how fast do you want to go?
cragmac1000 1 year ago
@TurboNeon185 what the hell are you talking about sure the srt4 is faster than any civic that came rolled off the assembly line and thats cause the damn srt4 is turboed but i have a honda prelude that will beat any srt4 any time and if you would like to run it we can i live in asheville nc
kawasakiofamw 1 year ago
alright pier this is it for me. heres MY point...i cant speak for anybody else. but do u remember where this started about 684 comments ago? u called the srt4 a POS. u havent really said anything that proves that other than its not the fastest car in the world. im pretty sure we all already knew that. but civics arent either. theres really fast cars, pos cars, and then all the ok-good cars in the middle. civics and srt4s both fall in this section.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
I came on here because idiots were saying hondas suck srt-4s rule even though the fastest street fwd 4 cylinder car is a honda.. so yea hondas do not fail but since you think so what would that make your srt-4? at least honda has some deep 8s fwd street cars.
242pier 1 year ago
I have been giving you facts. your just bull shitting around it like a pussy ass bitch.
428pier 1 year ago
ill keep blocking you but thats only to protect innocent people from your incredible stupidity. i like how im the idiot and yet you cant even type WORDS correctly. i mean, blocking only takes the push of one button. but i know you have no life so keep making new accounts, lol.
also. you havent given one piece of legitimate factual intelligence. which was stated before, but ill do so again. MECHANICAL or ENGINEERING reasons why it sucks.
were waiting....
formking 1 year ago
your facts are retarded. a midget doesnt back down from a bad ass mother fucker. gets the shit kicked out of him, but hey, he did it anyways so he must be way cool and strong. honda havent placed in the top 10 at the nordschleife in....i dont think they ever have.
so yes, hondas have gone to nurburgring but didnt place. so whats the fuss?
formking 1 year ago
And btw way to go and block my other account to try and make it look like you won again. you so pathetic.
428pier 1 year ago
and yet i hear no talk about the suspension, or the camber, or the tranny. NOTHING factual, only videos of other cars not belonging to you going faster. youre a douche and an embarassment to the tuning world. any real tuner would see the pros and cons to any vehicle and provide factual intelligence (ie: mechanical or engineering reasons to prove your claim) instead you call srt owners fan boys but think yourself a cut above when you do the EXACT same thing. a huge fucking idiot
formking 1 year ago
You guys can hate and cry all you want you fan boys will learn soon.
458pier 1 year ago
You neon guys are so cute lol. I could care less if I'm getting marked down. People can't handle the truth. Like i said before the srt-4 can be made to go fast but seriously their are plenty of other cars that can be made to go faster and you can't bull shit about it. I just find it funny you guys call civics crap yet the fastest street 4 cylinder car is a honda civic. So seriously what does that make your srt-4?
458pier 1 year ago
oh my fucking gosh. dude, you are an idiot. we prefer an srt so were fan boys. but someone who believes just as strongly about honda is...a true tuner? youre an idiot and everything you say only proves the fact more and more.
1.i believe shepards talon is the fastest street legal car
2.making a honda super fast includes SWAPPING out a different motor
3.once you get a fast tuned honda, will it perform in a circuit? nope
with all the different factors your only argument is the srt is a POS
formking 1 year ago
hey man car sounds good, dont sweat this asshole you should know by now every honda owner get pissed when you say their blender motor go kart isnt fast. the funny thing is honda owners are all the same, either the cars are somewhat quick for what they are and their a shitbox or they wasted all their money makin their dick bigger with neon lights and rims and a cool shift knob and the cars slow as shit.
ChevySRT869403 1 year ago
Man your a damn ricer. You honestly think your peon is a race car. and hey way to block me to try and make everyone feel like you won. Nice failed attempt rice boy. Hey i think the fast and the furious is coming on on hbo. Better go watch it so you can get your daily dose of rice and bull shit. And btw mod for mod a dsm will walk your shit. You can go and try and act like you know shit even though you don't, have fun in your pathetic life. you can go ahead and block this account to lol.
458pier 1 year ago
peace rice boy continue to pass on more bull shit
458pier 1 year ago
im sorry, is someone butthurt? i havent blocked you, why would i/. you only make yourself look like an idiot. oh no! i watched f&f! i must be ricer! but since you recognized the reference im going to assume you watched the movie also? ha ha ha, what a fucking loser.
heres an idea. in your next post, provide factual knowledge as to why the srt is a horrible car. go ahead....google and wiki can only save you so much but i doubt youll find anything to help your stupid ass in the department
formking 1 year ago
Lol so why is it that couldn't comment on pier456 yet when i made a new account i could? I wouldn't be making another account if i still could now would I? Yea i watched the movie a lot of car peopel watched the movie and got some laughs out of it BUT you don't see me using lines form the movie now do you? Yea tool no common sense what so ever.
458pier 1 year ago
You completely think you know everything. You can;t handle the fact a lot of damn cars mod for mod are faster I HAVE GIVEN you FACTUAL KNOWLEDGE DUMBASS. I have vids on my homepage showing it dumbass. Your just to much of a pussy to admit your a complete tool who thinks his peon is a race car when its obviously not. SO since you worked on your peon with a few mods you think you know everything about cars now? Just give up dude.
458pier 1 year ago
you have OTHER peoples videos on your page. keep adding OTHER peoples achievements. and another way that just shows how much of a douche you are. take a picture of a car, that should mean you know how to build one. and what you dont understand is that just because ONE of my cars you dont like, you assume i dont know anything. until you provide factual knowledge as to why it sucks, youll be a cocksmoker blowing out your ass.
formking 1 year ago
So you think you know everything about cars because you added a few parts? Seriously quit trying to brag over the internet. Your trying to hide the fact the srt-4 will get beat by plenty of cars. Just because i don't have vids of my cars DOESN'T mean everything i say is untrue dumbass. I HAVE been giving FACTUAL information over and over again. Do you fail to read?
458pier 1 year ago
Your telling me to get factual knowledge which i have been doing. Then when your ass gets put in your place you try to pull the " i don't own this" crap, Seriously quit trying to make excuses. When you look up 8 second street honda you get links full of them when you look up 8 second street srt-4 you don't see any.
458pier 1 year ago
When you look up nurburgring lap times you don't see the srt-4 yet you hondas on their Subaru is on their Mitsubishi is on their and more. bone stock k20 motors boosted make same or better times with aluminum blocks then your srt-4 that has a cast iron block. You regular dodge neon isn't making 700whp without race gas in a car with full interior and street legal. Which bisi's turbo d16 build is capable of doing. THESE ARE FACTS YOU keep asking for which YOU fail to realize i can go on and on.
458pier 1 year ago
Your a complete fucking moron. YOU FUCKING TOLD ME TO GET ACTUAL FACTS DUMBASS. OD you fail to reread what you fucking told me? YOUR telling ME to get FACTUAL information yet WHEN i show you it. YOU get all BUTT HURT over it and try to change the subject. Just because i don't have vids of my cars doesn't mean I'm WRONG DUMBASS. I HAVE BEEN GVING FACTUAL KNOWLEDGE.
458pier 1 year ago
@458pier dude u still havent given up yet?? u even made a new name to continue this shit?? so please..tell us all HOW IS THE SRT4 A PIECE OF SHIT?? its a question thats been asked of u 1000x but answered zero.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
I have already given my reason. Apparently you still don't know how to read. Is your srt-4 on nurburgring lap times? Is their a 8 second street srt-4? No. Do your regular neons run 10s n/a and be street legal or run almost 9 flat all motor?
458pier 1 year ago
@458pier none of thoes mean that srt4s are pos cars. and none of us have said that hondas are pos cars. and u continue to say there are 8 second street civics and what not but ur not talking about any civics made in the last 10 yrs. where are all those. does that mean civics USED to be better than srt4s but ever since 2000 they are now also pieces of shit since there are faster street srt4s? if u have a car that has 8 gens u cant say its a better car just cuz ONE of those gens are quicker.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
I know u haven't but others on this vid have which is funny to me because their are faster cars out their. Quit bitching about generations to, its not gonna get you anywhere. In the end th fastest street fwd 4 cylinder car is a honda No if's or but's about it. fastest 4 cylinder cars are dsms. And so on and soon. And their is defiantly more then 1 generation of hondas that are better. And if your still bitching about weight their are integras running 8s to street legal.
458pier 1 year ago
Also seeing as those older gens are lighter it will also mean more traction problems you will have to deal with right? Yea their lighter but doesn't mean they have no disadvantages. Your srt-4 is heavier and will be able to plant the tires to the ground better.
458pier 1 year ago
@458pier so its easier to say turbo against NA isnt fair but weight isnt an issue? there are heaps of cars that are incredible, underrated, and do not make the list of what you THINK makes a good race car.
formking 1 year ago
Weight only does so much. Weight is not going to get your car to make over 500hp.... Like i said before, their are 8 second street integras.
428pier 1 year ago
@458pier especially when its not the current generation.
TurboNeon185 1 year ago
yeah, lets argue why you made another account...INSTEAD of arguing the real point, why the SRT is a pos. still waiting...but i guess i alreagy guessed you would do this. you dont know shit
formking 1 year ago
I'm still waiting to see how srt-4s can keep up with sti's and evos etc. dumbass. I have already proven your srt-4 is not the best thing out their. A jack load of cars mod for mod will be faster then a srt-4. The fastest street civic runs a 8.5 your srt-4 is not even close.
458pier 1 year ago
man, when i think you cant get any stupider you provide the information to prove how wrong we are. you havent provided one PIECE of factual intelligence. you say peon a million times, talk about other peoples achievements, and still have no idea what im talking about. its funny, i dont have vids of all the work i do, only a couple of my personal DD, but im a wannabe ricer. you have OTHER peoples videos but are nsomeone to be taken seriously? lol.
formking 1 year ago
Your a complete fucking tool. I haven't give one piece of factual intelligence? Are you serious? I been giving facts for the past fucking comments moron. Hey how about instead of thinking you know everything which you keep on trying to pass on that you do. How about you actually look up the information before running your mouth like a dumbass bitch hmm? I been giving you facts. Quit getting butt hurt that your peon is not the best thing out their.
458pier 1 year ago
I already know and others that a dodge srt-4 can be built to go fast. Thing is their are faster cods mod for mod dumbass which you fail to realize and don't want to admit. No one believes the civic in this vid is fully built either so what kind of bull you trying to pull? your srt-4 with only a cat back at most will run like a mid 13s if lucky in the 1/4 mile. their are n/a d16 motors putting cars in the 12s street legal.
458pier 1 year ago
And your telling me a fully built si with a b16 can't pull on a pretty much a stock srt-4? You don't even need a built b16 to take out a srt-4. people have gone low 13s or faster on the stock bottom end.
458pier 1 year ago
@458pier
you're just fucking retarded actually. why do you think all your comments are getting thumbs down. fucking tool.
ChillaxedJosh 1 year ago
Yes your right. Their is no bone stock k20 motor on 42psi. their is no 700whp turbo d16 not even running on race gas. The fastest street 4 cylidner fwd car is not a honda.. Their is no 9 second n/a hondas and or deep 10 second street hondas. Come on dude i can go all day u can denie it all you want.
458pier 1 year ago
im not a fan boy i love all cars but honda by far has the best i to me i own the king of honda a 88 EF9 with a D16z6 stock internals, si axels lowered with 2.5inch piping and a k20a has a hard time gettin away from me he beat me by 2/3 car length and i dont even drive it correctly yet haha i can chrip in every gear to
AllOutMugen 1 year ago
Yea your turbo srt-shit is turboed from the factory but your dodge peon is not so why don't i see it run similar times as n/a hondas? Look up bisis's freeken n/a builds with his fastest build running almost in the 8s all motor.
pier456 1 year ago
tsk tsk. i have a dodge neon now, not an srt? once again youre speaking theoretically. and only idiots would base their ENTIRE arguments on a theory. YOU have no race car, YOU have no tuning knowledge, YOU have no experience. but its easy to talk shit because you sit behind a computer and can add favorites of OTHER peoples rides and achievements. in your mind, theoritcally, you win. but in life you fail.
formking 1 year ago
Your a complete dumbass now your thinking your srt-4 with a catback and exhaust is a race car now. Quit acting like you done something dumbass.
pier456 1 year ago
ha ha ha ha. these simple bolt ons were done 3 years ago. an incredibly old video. sounds like homogay douchebag still has yet to provide ANY factual knowledge. if a car with boltons is not a race car, please tell me what is?
formking 1 year ago
Wow you are the definition of a ricer
1. you talk shit
2. You think you drive a racecar even though u had a catback and exchaust
3. You use the fast and the furious lines
Race cars are nhra cars, nascar cars, f1 cars etc. not a turbo peon with a catback and a exhaust.
pier456 1 year ago
oh ok, those are race cars eh? and please tell me...where do you see those driving down the street? i havent talked shit once, only proved you didnt know a damn thing. and to further prove my statement..how does one have a catback AND an exhaust system? last i checked the catback exhaust is an exhaust system....
formking 1 year ago
Even though I don't like Hondas, I'm not gonna sit here & spit garbage. Read carefully. A well built Honda is something to look behind you for, as much as a well built Subaru or anything else for that matter:
My boy in NYC has a built B20B w/B18C1 head, forged internals (rods, pistons, B18C1 crank all from Mugen) & GSR tranny. He has no turbo & he is putting down 290hp/221lbs-ft in a 1993 EG hatch. The car looks JDM fresh. He has no videos up here but I would not underestimate his build at all.
akabane1984 1 year ago
And what the fuck kind of hondas are you fucking comparing dude to even say most hondas LOL
pier456 2 years ago
ALL you guys have been talking about is the srt-4 so please tell me again. How am i a fan boy?
pier456 2 years ago
This video is a great example how SRTs are slower than Hondas right?...you don't know shit about cars and its obvious so stop embarrasing yourself..stock for stock the SRT beats every Honda and can run with ANY dsm, STi, or EVO...fucking stock for stock first gen DOHC Neons (150 hp) run with most fucking Hondas..the SRT-4 is a FUCKING beast...FUCK YOU AND ALL THE FUCKING SPICS WHO DRIVE HONDAS
n1ckmsrt 2 years ago
Wow dude you honestly think this Honda in the vid is fully rebuilt, forged internals, and higher compression ratio? Your a complete moron. Look up all motor civic vs srt-4 and watch your peon get waxed by a real all motor honda.
pier456 2 years ago
I Surely fucking hope your boosted 2.4 liter srt-4 can beat a n/a 2 liter honda dumbass and no you do not beat a s2k or a nsx dumbass PLEASE your a complete moron for saying every honda. Your just pissed your srt-4 is the most hated car and can't handle it. Get a tissue and blow your nose ok?
pier456 2 years ago
there is so much stupidity in your posts im scared to keep reading in case your retardedness is infectious. i loved my neon, and any true auto enthusiast would respect the car. but youre so set on your shortsighted beliefs you will never understand true tuning. show a video of a honda beating an srt, someone else will show a vid of an srt smoking a cobra, and the list goes on. pull your head out of your ass
formking 1 year ago
LOL wow dude your telling me i am a fan boy look at yourself. Any true enthusiast knows that a peon is still a damn peon. Your acting like the peon will take on every single car known to man. And shortsighted beliefs? Go fucking youtube vids of 8 second street hondas dumbass. Don't get me started with dsms.
pier456 1 year ago
Are you seriously saying that the SRT-4 can run against evos and sti's stock? what the fuck are you smoking? I'd love to see that happen. next thing you know you'll say the srt-4 is the fastest car ever and can beat ferraris and such. stfu you stupid ass fanboy
Ezze90 1 year ago
I know right? You guys need to go on my homepage and watch bisi's 700whp sohc d16z street legal, full interior, reliable and no race gas needed. So how is your dodge peon doing?
pier456 1 year ago
fanboys=fail. i know a guy who i've talked to quite a few times says the 8th gen civics bone stock against a bone stock srt-4 are dead even. how so? he drives an srt-4. that was back then. now he's putting over 500 at the wheels. srt-4s fail because all the kids do that have them is put a different BOV on it and think its fast. but that guy has kudos because its obviously worked. soon my FG2 will be puttin down 420 at the wheels on only 10 psi, stock internals and reflash
Ezze90 1 year ago
good luck on build
pier456 1 year ago
thanks man. shits gonna be nasty. gotta put a vid up of it
Ezze90 1 year ago
the sad thing here...is as you make fun of fan boys you show yourself to be nothing better than a fanboy. what kind of race are you pitting them up against? track, circuit, drag....? the srt is good enough to race these cars stock for stock. dont forget to look at WHP of those cars when comparing. not to mention year. all 3 years for the srt had different stats as well as evos and stis.
formking 1 year ago
yea your right.. I am a fanboy. I am a fanboy to hondas, stis,evos,supras,rx7s,bmws,mercedes, etc. etc. etc. Yea please tell me how i am a fanboy. Your another srt-4 fan boy that can't handle the damn truth. srt-4s maybe will keep up with sti's IN A STRAIGHT LINE but compared to a evo hell fucking no
2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII 5.1 13.5
2003 Dodge SRT-4 5.6 14.1
2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi 5.1 13.8
But hey sense your srt-4 can compete i should see it on nurburgring lap times right?
pier456 1 year ago
a fanboy of headlining cars doesnt make a difference. all you will ever be is a fanboy. not someone with actual knowledge, experience, and opinion. you have yet to provide any REAL factual opinion as to why the srt is a horrible car. and lets check the 04 srt which did the 1/4 at 13.9. now .1 of a second can come down to launch, rev line, driver, and temperature. to cost more than HALF and be only .1 of a second away stock? when you have actual proof instead of OTHER peoples vids come back
formking 1 year ago
WOW seriously just shut up. You honestly think you know everything because you added a few mods to your srt-shit. I have not provided any real facts. LOL wow dude do you know how to use the search engine? First off stis and evos were made to do much more then what a srt-shit will ever do. From the factory those sti's and evos will handle auto xing/track racing, rallying, snow and more dumbass.
pier456 1 year ago
And your such a damn hypocrite your telling me to have actual proof instead of using other peoples videos. Yet You have no PROOF your srt-4 will easily keep up with a evo or a sti.
pier456 1 year ago
i think i know everything? ha ha ha, more of your pussy insecurity. not once did i ever state as much. mechanics and engineering change every day so its impossible for anyone to know EVERYTHING. but of course an idiot like you wouldnt understand that. let alone what true tuning is. and youre also assuming that i have done nothing due to an OLD video which is ONE of my daily drivers.
formking 1 year ago
How am i insecured when I'm telling the truth? And you obviously have no common sense either as obviously you won't know everything even though YOU keep acting like YOU do.
pier456 1 year ago
im not acting like i know everything, what i am saying is truth. no acting, no presumption, and no retarded biases. if what you said was truth about the srts, you would hace FACTUAL knowledge as to why. and yet....i see nothing. i see an idiot running in circles really really fast
formking 1 year ago
Did you not read my comments before? The guy had a worked srt4 that was legitamately fast. I admitted he had a fast car. Although I may not like srt4s, i still gave the guy kudos. the srt4 can be a fast car, but we both know there are kids who thinks its the fastest thing ever. And there is no possible way that the srt4 would keep up with the evos and stis stock for stock on either the circuit and drag. the stis and evos are just on a completely different performance level compared to the srt4.
Ezze90 1 year ago
that comment wasnt directed at you.and of course the srt wont keep up at a circuit or track, just like how a minivan wont do well at the drags. its not what it was designed to do. the srt was made to be a quick rocket out of the box, cheap, and burn rubber in a straight line. and really the only thing seperating the evo/sti from the srt is the AWD systems and suspension. the srt was designed fromt he beginning to be a limited car. they werent aiming for circuit times. bang for buck itsincredible
formking 1 year ago
Now your making excuses why your srt-shit can't keep up. Wait a minute didn't you just say your srt-4 was good enough to keep up? Lol your so grounded coffee looks at you and says DAMN. If they were made for bang for the buck why is it that hondas, dsms, 5.0s etc. do it better?
pier456 1 year ago
im sorry, a dsm? it was nearly outperformed by the prelude. and the 2g eclipse/talon was the only OK model to come from dsm. and yes, i said CAN keep up. but it also depends on the type of racing. you use google and wikipedia for the limited amount of information you provide only proving you know NOTHING. you can read, barely and comprehend the written language even less
formking 1 year ago
was the honda si racing? it seemed like she wasnt even trying to put up a fight. looked more like a highlight reel for the srt
mrtriplesix 2 years ago