@jumpship1 It is not Scotland but the Queen's minister of justice in Scotland who has pissed America off (and pissed me as a Scot off).
The Queen imposes herself and her governments on Scots and we can't do anything about it (apart from ask Americans to remove the Queen like we removed Saddam Hussein)
Let the Queen swing on a rope like Saddam did. Then the Scots will laugh. HA HA!
@ScottishStandard The American's would never attack another country who has nukes. We should just vote Independence. Get shot of England and its master America.
@jumpship1 Well firstly, if the country is Scotland or Britain then the USA would not be attacking us but helping our countries by attacking the enemy UK which enslaves us.
Also we should not allow the UK control of our nuclear weapons but set up a British republic to control our nukes.
We should get rid of the Queen otherwise we Scots are not independent.
You sound so immature. This is not about one country pissing off another. You have to really watch what you. Over 200 Americans died on Pan Am Flight 103, and about 11 Scottish were killed from the planes's explosion over the ground. I just can't see why you have to be so insensitive over someone's personal loss. That does not make me want to respect Scotland in any way, shape, or form.
If you had a family member who died on Pan Am Flight 103 I'm sure you would change your tune.
The government used the oldest trick in the book: they made good use of the time which has passed since the disaster,and the convenient forgetfulness of the world's population to go along with it.Megrahi is free, alive and well,and doesn't even have cancer,and the world moves on,270 people have died in vain,and by today it's all old news which almost nobody seems to care about.The people whom do care,like the relatives,are simply ignored.......what a wonderfull world....
JamesJTV - Salmond has met the Queen in Holyrood Palace shaken her hand, accepted a warrant from the Queen to be First Minister under the terms of the UK Scotland Act. He has welcomed the Queen to the Scottish Parliament and responded to her address to parliament with a loyal address (loyal to the Queen, a a traitor to Scots rights to elect our own head of state, a president of a Scottish republic).
Salmond & the SNP want to keep the Queen as head of state.
It's a microcosm of European history. In the 1930's they didn't understand the nature of the enemy they faced and we know how that turned out. And they don't understand the nature of the enemy they face now. Europe almost seems to be the great ostrich of the world. When the going gets tough, Europe gets going. This piece of rat excrement is set free because he's dying if cancer, whaaaa! He would have no such mercy on anyone he deems to be an infidel. These Scots ought to be ashamed! ASHAMED!!
Are you blaming the entire population for the decision of one man - the Scottish Justice Secretary? Are you personally responsible for the decisions of the US Government? No? Then don't apply such a ridiculous argument here. As a Scot, why should I be ashamed? Nobody asked my opinion about whether or not Megrahi should be released. How dare you make such a suggestion.
Actually, yes. He was elected by you, which means you agree with his far leftist anti-US policies. So yes, you are responsbile. And that's just fine; you have the freedom to elect any lunatic you prefer. For our part here in the US, let's hope that we exercise our right to have not a goddamn thing to do with the Scots whatsoever and for as long as this Justice Secretary and his party are in power.
Actually, no. I DIDN't elect him. I voted for another party, but hey, that's democracy. So you are wrong to put the blame on me. Are you responsible for every decision of the US Government, regardless of whether or not you support the party in power? I guess your answer is no. So don't try such a ridiculous and, frankly, childish argument here. Your response is little short of pathetic. The vast majority of Scots are outraged by the Justice Secretary's decision.
"You" as in "your country" dumbass. And you're right, that's democracy. And in your democracy, the majority of the people elected a party with a far leftist philosophy preaching contempt for the US. Yep, that's how democracy works and all is well. I only hope that the US excercises its right to make sound, democratic decisions and cut-off Scotland from any/all benefits or good relations with us of any kind. Yes, in a democracy the people are responsible for the assholes they elect.
thats bollocks no one other than the people of musselburgh elected him - a population of maybe 15000 folk shall we blame them? the real blame has to lie with the fuckers who instigated political correctness, and that is an american creation
ha your obviously american, this whole mix britain in with europe thing youve got going on, funny. political correctness - american invention - you need, ahem, de programmalised from your american superiority complex and hey rather responsible for that than some mad choppy heady religion
I'm tired of all the Amercasn bashing. We dfon't like the bashing you are giving us, so maybe its about time we start bashing your country, and your faults--which there are several.
I bet you don't like it when people bash your country so why bash the American people?
If you can bash us, we can certainly bash you back.
@pluto4847 Why don't Americans bash the Queen whose ministers released the Lockerbie bomber? Many Scots would side with Americans who confronted the joint enemy of both Scots and Americans.
If we fail into the Queen's trap of Scots and Americans falling out then we are foolish to let the Queen off the hook.
We Scots and Americans need to be smart and unite to fight the Queen.
Nathan / Matt - don't reply here please. Take it to the For Freedom Forums at FIGH.TK
Hippie you are talking rubbish. 1930s Europe's appeasement of Germany was from a position of weakness. Libya has backed down from supporting terrorism, has abandoned it's nuclear program and now is an ally of US & UK on war on terror. Magrahi's release is a little reward. In addition the Scottish oil industry has now access to all the lovely libyan oil.
Did you sit through the travesty of Megrahi's trial? There was not one single piece of material evidence linking him to the crime. The reason he was released was because everyone familiar with the case knew the wrong man was sent to jail and they didn't want the embarrassment of the truth coming out in his appeal. Expert testimony after expert testimony pointing to Megrahi's innocence was summarily dismissed. There was no jury. At least 2 of the "witnesses" were paid by the CIA.....
...evidence was tampered with. Crucial evidence was withheld from the trial which included a break in at Heathrow's Pan Am depot and the testimony of a baggage handler who said he saw an extra samsonite matching exactly the case that contained the bomb mysteriously appear on top of the other luggage. Hundreds of pages of evidence and arguments were suppressed by the US "supervisors" present at the trial. These will be released by lawyers soon. Keep your trap shut until you have the facts.
You really believe this conspiracy crap? I'd feel sorry for you but I get the impression you're an idiotic turd in need of a good slap in the face. Maybe your mother will do it. However, it's your mother I feel truly sorry for. She has the stigma of being the sow that brought you into this world. =(
Yes, I knew that the facts would overwhelm your brain.
FYI, "Conspiracy theorists" are generally people who continue to believe in a crazy theory IN SPITE of the facts. Hello? Recognize yourself in that definition?
It's also interesting that the many of the families of the British victims don't believe Megrahi got a fair trial either. I think that could be explained by a cerebral process which many Americans seem unfamiliar with...it's called THINKING.
The Lockerbie disaster will stay with me as long as i live, and God bless all who suffered in that dastardly deed.
I feel that NO terrorist should be released from jail, for any reason!!!...not least, the irish republican terrorists, who, by the way, got most of their weapons, money and support from the USA.
I don't recall Hilary Clinton bleetin' about that.
It seems there are double standards at work when it comes to the USA, and terrorists.
Scotland is an embarrassment to the Kingdom, kick them out, and let them destroy their own country, and STOP using my English taxes to prop this useless, whining country up....
21 nations represented on the flight.That's 20 nations which had no connection whatsoever with America's wrongdoings in the middle -east,and 1 nation which only had that connection by their nationality,and/or citizenship.21 years,a lot of agony,millions of dollars,and one conviction later and this is the result.The real criminals are the ones ruling the world.....
Scotland. The country that puts up a statue of Mel Gibson because he does a film(he's a film star,that's all. Not a leader. An actor) that makes Scotland look oppressed. Now THAT is embarrassing.
And with regards to Bosch & Calley the US never were or ever will do anything about them or the CIA agents responsible for the murder of General Rene Schneider and who set up right wing death squads all over South America.
All that stuff still doesn't excuse letting this guy go...
You can't deny that. Bringing up past redresses against the US government that have nothing at all to do with this case just makes you look stupid. If the Scottish government had said "we're releasing this guy because of [all the crap you're mentioning] that might have at least been a little brave". But as it is, they ended up looking stupid.
who did scotland back down to? who is it they were so scared off they let this man free? this is a country who's soldiers are fighting hard in afghanistan and suffering disproportionate levels of casualties. why cowards. greedy maybe as the scots oil industry gets access to all that lovely libyan oil but you need to explain where ur accusation of cowardice comes from.
It's just not a brave decision is all. Letting him rot in prison would have been brave. And honestly you may be right about Calley and Bosch. Especially Bosch, if he did what he's accused of. Still doesn't make releasing a murderer right.
The Scottish government wanted to appear merciful but instead they made a decision that made them look cowardly to the Libyans.
why cowardly? libya has backed down to the west. they are now our allies in the war on terror. not a country to fear. I am not Scots so national pride is not an issue. In my opinion the Scots have acted in their own best interest and good luck to them. Another reason they may well have done this is to assert their independence and piss off the English but that's our arguement and nothing to do with the USA.
Misplaced shows of "compassion" was simply just politically correctness. If the Scottish government had really wanted to make a political statement based on the fact that the US government has committed questionable acts, they should have done so. As it is, their reasoning was "compassion" and that shows no bravery. Letting them rot in prison would have been the bold thing to do.
You can't accuse the Scots of being soft. The Lybians are now our friends. They backed down to us. Lybian Intelligence now assist US intelligence in the war on Terror. Al Margrahi was not a terrorist but an agent of his nation. Assuming his guilt he has done no better or worse than many UK and US intelligence operatives (u wanna list?) who walk free on our own lands.
"Go to Scotland and say that..." What the FUCK would I want to go to Scotland for? Why do you think there's only a paltry 5 million left? Their all fucking off.
I really feel for these relatives.Their legs have been pulled for 21 years.I think they are very strong people.Just look at those young faces on the photos of the victims,looking forward to a bright future after their studies abroad,and then never getting to that future.What has the world learned from this??Not a damn thing!Which government gives a shit??Not a single one!History will keep repeating itself,when lessons aren't learned.Just look at what's happened in the world since 1988...
i thought the scottish were ruled by the English, didnt realise they had there own paliment. Shame, couldent see the English letting him go they seem to have a backbone. SCOTTISH COWARDS
He was convicted on the evidence of one unreliable witness who had changed his story on a number of occasions. He was not tried by jury but by a panel of judges. He was released on the grounds he dropped his appeal against conviction because what the govt feared was the truth of the matter coming to light, Prior to Megrahi coming into the frame US intelligence were saying this is the work of Iran & Syria. Iraq invaded Kuwait, Syria joined coalition and suddenly Lybia is to blame. Yeah right.
As for setting a good example how do you explain LT William Calley being convicted for the premeditated murder of 347 women, chidren and elderly men; sentenced to life hard labour and released after 3 years confinement to quarters. Or the pardoning of convicted terrorist and plane bomber Orlando Bosch. Can you imagine how furious or frustrated the Vietnamese or Cubans feel? Oh you do? Not nice is it.? The crime occured in Scotland. They decide. You put up with it. Tough!
Tough? I think we should grab the scumbag ourselves, it's not like the cowardly Scots could or would do anything about it. The rest of your post is completely illogical, for one thing, this scumbag was convicted of a crime by our ally. And another, just because you didn't like what the US did in this case doesn't make your act any less cowardly.
Neither do you. You lot have let some Gitmo prisoners go too. But at least we had the courage to put people on trial. So get back to me when Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld are on trial and we'll talk.
You are such a loony toons. If they committed a crime, they will go to jail, period. But we'd never let someone who even killed out own people go free.
You're clearly a nutcase and so is your government.
Why, because I have a balanced and don't believe everything that the media says. Your government caused two wars and over 1, 000, 000 people dead and got away without any trail at all. How is that ok but a man who has a dodgy trail who at least served some jail time bad?
You fucking jizz swallower! Don't you realise Scotland is one fucking big wimp! You're sticking up for a goverment that cares more for a foreigner than it's own people. And even YOU think they can't hold a fair trial. Scotland? It's a fucking joke.
Right...Which is why wasting your own troops for foreigner's "freedom and democracy" is still ok is it? You and your country can't call anyone else "wimps" or "cowards". And since the majority of the world hates ignorant people like you, you're best just to shut the fuck up and obay what your beloved masters tell you to do.
I think their right. He had to choose a side. Fuck compassion. Did he chose to respect the Scottish families? No. Or even the American families? No. He sided with one Libyan.
I didn't say it was and just like Bill O'reilly you are taking things the wrong way. Complete evil is invading other countries, torturing, false flag operations, bringing in draconian law.
You called me a pinhead so you must watch Bill O'reilly. And for iraq, I used that as an example of how the release of the prisoner pales compared to it.
given libya are now our friends and that the guy was mearly doing his duty as an agent of his country (assuming his guilt), the dubiousness of the evidence convicting him and that the british justice system allows dieing men to die at home (look up Ronnie Biggs) I can't see what was so stupid about the scot's govt's actions. and as i said earlier the crime was committed in scotland and it's scotland's decision.
So how does it not matter, you weren't in favour of it? Right, so the release of the prisoner didn't matter because other people weren't in favour of it.
The Scots were right to release this man The only thing they got wrong was when his plane was over the English Channel en route to Libya it should have been blown up into little pieces and that would show the fucker
Let's see he is terminally ill,is a terrorist,sounds like he'd make a good suicide bomber! Let's hope I'm wrong. I do not hate the Scotts or any one in the U.K. but am disappointed by the decision.
And you too ! Let me compare Scotland to America ? Do we lock up innocent people in Cuban camps...NO ! Do we kill our allies in so called friendly fire...NO ! Need I go on ?
You are the most hated country in the World so go and do one you ignorant little man !!
I am going to say what any sane person would say to you and that is nothing ! You are contemptible ! This is a nation that committed genocide on native Americans !
ME 2,,, SOME LITTLE SOON TO BE TERRORIST SEE THIS AND WANT TO BE A FAMOUS TERRORIST THAT KILLS HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE AND YOU GET humanity AND A Parade IN YOUR NAME MAKES ME WHY NOT RIGHT MAKES ME WANT TO BLOW UP A SCOTISH PLANE???????? NOT THATS FOR LOSER SCUM LIKE TERRORISTS AND SCOTISH WEAKASS LIBERAL PUNKS
Hey, you morons don't you got that yet? the Brits wanted to get their share of the oil in Libya and created the whole problem and convicted this innocent man. when last years the brits get their share they released the man. if you didn't get that go and live in China. Bush did the same thing, he killed 4 thousands in 9/11 and gain full control of the oil in Irak.
So tell me who are the terrorists here.
your governments sacrifying and killing you like a sheep to get to the oil in Arab lands.
I like this! Fairness and compassion for terrorists. In the name of fairness and compassion, I think England should release some IRA prisoners who might not be feeling well too. Fair is fair, right?
Firstly it was not England that released Megrahi it was Scotland. Scotland and England have different justice systems (would be like blaming Belarus for something Russia did): Secondly England released all IRA active service members convicted of terrorist offences as part of the Northern Irish peace process.
brightasblackout - apt name, not particularly bright at all. You omitted to state that the UK govt also released all of the Loyalist(Protestant) terrorists convicted of violent crimes - many of these guys were previously in the payroll of the British security services (FRU, MI5, Special Branch)
Your bang on right AEMF. My reference to the IRA was in reply to someone who asked how would we feel if US released IRA prisoners. Loyalist paramilitaries killed many more innocent civilians than the IRA (who tended to target RUC and Brit army). The security service members who ran these loyalists were no better or no worse than the members of the Iranian and or Syrian (not Lybian oddly enough) security forces who killed innocent civilians at Lockerbie.
Blndrfist-er , once again you prove that you are shit at comprehension. You extract one line from a post and take it enitrely out of context as ammo for your assinine insults. Guitar you may be good at language you are not apparently. Now show us yer wee devil sign that you love doing at concerts and gigs because you the heir apparent to Ozzie aren't you. LMFBO
Mr Al Megrahi has expressed no remorse for the Lockerbie bombing because he claims to be innocent. He has expressed sympathy for the victims-of which he is one if he is innocent.
The evidence suggests that his conviction was highly dubious.
If he is innocent, it's better to release him when he's still alive, and even if he is guilty, he is going to die soon anyway-having spent the last 8 years of his life in prison, it's not as if he's not been punished.
the americans cant bitch they blew up a plane with iranians heading to mecca, ak981260 got is spot on for england not to forget bloody sunday in ireland so before u start bitching more bout our country i think u need to think long and hard bout all the war crimes both the english and the yanks have been involved in. either way he should b locked up n the government did this not scotland
Our Scottish Government got this 100% right. This is the law of our lands if this man dying from a terminal illness then he should be released die, Our government rejected the prison transfer but released on compassionate grounds because he is going to die. It would be a different case if the man wasnt sick.
BYSONG - The SNP government is an ANTI-Scottish government which has sold us out to Queen Elizabeth and the Union of the Crowns.
It is not the law of the land that a dying prisoner SHOULD be released. Oh no, he MAY be released if his case warrants compassion in all the circumstances.
I would have thought that Megrahi would have been the very last person in Scotland to deserve such compassion.
I am sure there are sicker prisoners who have done lesser crimes who DON'T get released.
Rundogz - I am on planet Earth where Queen Elizabeth is the head of state of the United Kingdom which rules Scotland through a devolved government whose First Minister Alex Salmond, leader of the SNP was appointed by the Queen.
The SNP CLAIM to be a "nationalist" party but they don't support Scottish national independence - they are a UNIONIST party who support the Union of the Crowns and want Queen Elizabeth as head of state of the Scottish kingdom.
Rundogz - The SNP are not nationalists except in name only. They are traitors to the nation because they oppose true Scottish national independence which could only be delivered when we Scots ELECT the head of state of the state which rules us.
The SNP are happy to serve the UK by running its devolved government of Scotland.
The SNP want to rule Scots under the personal union of Queen Elizabeth therefore they are unionists.
Lands appoint no-one. MacAskill was appointed QFM Salmond.
Rundogz - By "they" MacAskill means "the SNP" a royalist party which has NO programme towards any kind of Scottish national independence.
Imagine Prince Charles in a kilt with a Scottish flag, the Saltire, on top as an apron and Prince Charles, as "the Duke of Rothesay", heir to the throne of the Kingdom of Scotland, is butchering Scots who have dared to fight for freedom.
That is the SNP vision for "Scottish independence" and it is treason against the nation.
Well given that many Scots are loyal to the Royal family the policy of the SNP towards them seems to be muted hostility.
The SNP are an independence party, they state it on their website, they have many pages devoted to independence and how Scotland will be better for it. They have plans to bring it about, they intend to hold a referendum.
But if you're going to throw out every nationalist party when they make a mistake then I can promise you that Scotland will never leave the Union.
Rundogz: The SNP are in no rush to a vote in rigged referendum to cement rule of the Queen over Scotland because they already have that in large measure.
The Queen's ministers certainly are cretins who are unfit for power but they are not "nationalists" except in name only, really traitors.
We Scots have never been allowed a free and fair choice in elections because TV broadcasting is controlled by royalist elites.
Of course any Scottish patriot would be worried by SNP games.
Given that the UK had Scottish Kings and we were mostly very happy with that & given that the current line is German, then opposing them is pointless at best and petty at worst.
By all means though you can find a blood line Scots King, maybe it'll be Salmond you never know, and he can appoint your ministers with his powerless rubber stamp, and then they can release mass murderers, & then you'll be really screwed to find someone to blame.
Rundogz - I meant to type Kenny MacAskill was appointed by the Queen's First Minister (QFM) Alex Salmond, who was appointed by a warrant signed by Queen Elizabeth and handed to him personally with TV cameras present in Holyrood Palace.
If you doubt me in any way then watch this video uploaded to my ScotlandsMessenger channel.
The Queen is a powerless figurehead who merely rubber stamps the choices made by the Scottish people as you well know.
Salmond has not surrendered to the powerless Queen, he is a radical nationalist who is going to remove Scotland fully from the Union if he can.
What you need to accept is that the Scottish ministers you elected will get it wrong sometimes. If you think being a seperate country is so good, you'll have to get used to taking shit for what your country does.
BYSONG - Scotland didn't release this man. MacAskill appointed by Salmond appointed by the Queen released him.
MacAskill is a puppy of the Queen and he bows down to her and to CERTAIN patronising Americans, such as US Presidents who invite the Queen to the White House, who seem to think that Scots should not be trusted to elect our own head of state, a president of a Scottish republic.
MacAskill bows to Gaddafi and everyone else EXCEPT us Scots who have a right to elect our own president.
@berdivhala1 Good for you pal!
Em, how come if you are Scottish your channel page says, and I quote -
"About Me: handsome irish gypsy
Hometown:Cork
Country:Ireland"
So are you Scottish-Irish then?
ScottishStandard 1 year ago
Ha ha. Little Scotland has pissed America off and they can't do anything about it.
jumpship1 1 year ago
@jumpship1 It is not Scotland but the Queen's minister of justice in Scotland who has pissed America off (and pissed me as a Scot off).
The Queen imposes herself and her governments on Scots and we can't do anything about it (apart from ask Americans to remove the Queen like we removed Saddam Hussein)
Let the Queen swing on a rope like Saddam did. Then the Scots will laugh. HA HA!
ScottishStandard 1 year ago
@ScottishStandard The American's would never attack another country who has nukes. We should just vote Independence. Get shot of England and its master America.
jumpship1 1 year ago
@jumpship1 Well firstly, if the country is Scotland or Britain then the USA would not be attacking us but helping our countries by attacking the enemy UK which enslaves us.
Also we should not allow the UK control of our nuclear weapons but set up a British republic to control our nukes.
We should get rid of the Queen otherwise we Scots are not independent.
ScottishStandard 1 year ago
@jumpship1
You sound so immature. This is not about one country pissing off another. You have to really watch what you. Over 200 Americans died on Pan Am Flight 103, and about 11 Scottish were killed from the planes's explosion over the ground. I just can't see why you have to be so insensitive over someone's personal loss. That does not make me want to respect Scotland in any way, shape, or form.
If you had a family member who died on Pan Am Flight 103 I'm sure you would change your tune.
pluto4847 7 months ago
The government used the oldest trick in the book: they made good use of the time which has passed since the disaster,and the convenient forgetfulness of the world's population to go along with it.Megrahi is free, alive and well,and doesn't even have cancer,and the world moves on,270 people have died in vain,and by today it's all old news which almost nobody seems to care about.The people whom do care,like the relatives,are simply ignored.......what a wonderfull world....
dutchy1176 1 year ago
is he dead yet?
rw5791 1 year ago
It isn't the SNP Queens ministers, The SNP is the party that doesn't want anything to do with Britain and The SNP ar ethe ones that rule scoland
JamesJTV 2 years ago
JamesJTV - Salmond has met the Queen in Holyrood Palace shaken her hand, accepted a warrant from the Queen to be First Minister under the terms of the UK Scotland Act. He has welcomed the Queen to the Scottish Parliament and responded to her address to parliament with a loyal address (loyal to the Queen, a a traitor to Scots rights to elect our own head of state, a president of a Scottish republic).
Salmond & the SNP want to keep the Queen as head of state.
They ARE SNP Queen's ministers.
ScottishStandard 2 years ago
It's a microcosm of European history. In the 1930's they didn't understand the nature of the enemy they faced and we know how that turned out. And they don't understand the nature of the enemy they face now. Europe almost seems to be the great ostrich of the world. When the going gets tough, Europe gets going. This piece of rat excrement is set free because he's dying if cancer, whaaaa! He would have no such mercy on anyone he deems to be an infidel. These Scots ought to be ashamed! ASHAMED!!
hippieshatewater 2 years ago
hippieshatewater
Are you blaming the entire population for the decision of one man - the Scottish Justice Secretary? Are you personally responsible for the decisions of the US Government? No? Then don't apply such a ridiculous argument here. As a Scot, why should I be ashamed? Nobody asked my opinion about whether or not Megrahi should be released. How dare you make such a suggestion.
Manfromelpaso 2 years ago
Actually, yes. He was elected by you, which means you agree with his far leftist anti-US policies. So yes, you are responsbile. And that's just fine; you have the freedom to elect any lunatic you prefer. For our part here in the US, let's hope that we exercise our right to have not a goddamn thing to do with the Scots whatsoever and for as long as this Justice Secretary and his party are in power.
Blndrfist 2 years ago
Blndrfist
Actually, no. I DIDN't elect him. I voted for another party, but hey, that's democracy. So you are wrong to put the blame on me. Are you responsible for every decision of the US Government, regardless of whether or not you support the party in power? I guess your answer is no. So don't try such a ridiculous and, frankly, childish argument here. Your response is little short of pathetic. The vast majority of Scots are outraged by the Justice Secretary's decision.
Manfromelpaso 2 years ago
"You" as in "your country" dumbass. And you're right, that's democracy. And in your democracy, the majority of the people elected a party with a far leftist philosophy preaching contempt for the US. Yep, that's how democracy works and all is well. I only hope that the US excercises its right to make sound, democratic decisions and cut-off Scotland from any/all benefits or good relations with us of any kind. Yes, in a democracy the people are responsible for the assholes they elect.
Blndrfist 2 years ago
thats bollocks no one other than the people of musselburgh elected him - a population of maybe 15000 folk shall we blame them? the real blame has to lie with the fuckers who instigated political correctness, and that is an american creation
utrapzab 2 years ago
An American invention??? Wow, that's a real funny one. I guess you missed the history of the last 50 plus years of European socialism.
Blndrfist 2 years ago
ha your obviously american, this whole mix britain in with europe thing youve got going on, funny. political correctness - american invention - you need, ahem, de programmalised from your american superiority complex and hey rather responsible for that than some mad choppy heady religion
utrapzab 2 years ago
@utrapzab
I'm tired of all the Amercasn bashing. We dfon't like the bashing you are giving us, so maybe its about time we start bashing your country, and your faults--which there are several.
I bet you don't like it when people bash your country so why bash the American people?
If you can bash us, we can certainly bash you back.
pluto4847 7 months ago
@pluto4847 Why don't Americans bash the Queen whose ministers released the Lockerbie bomber? Many Scots would side with Americans who confronted the joint enemy of both Scots and Americans.
If we fail into the Queen's trap of Scots and Americans falling out then we are foolish to let the Queen off the hook.
We Scots and Americans need to be smart and unite to fight the Queen.
Nathan / Matt - don't reply here please. Take it to the For Freedom Forums at FIGH.TK
ScottishStandard 7 months ago
@Blndrfist dry your eyes dickhead
MrSy82 1 year ago
Hippie you are talking rubbish. 1930s Europe's appeasement of Germany was from a position of weakness. Libya has backed down from supporting terrorism, has abandoned it's nuclear program and now is an ally of US & UK on war on terror. Magrahi's release is a little reward. In addition the Scottish oil industry has now access to all the lovely libyan oil.
brightasblackout 2 years ago
'ashamed! ASHAMED!!'
U sound like a real freak.
wangpangu 2 years ago
I couldn't agree more and I am a Brit.
The Scottish people should be ashamed of their elected representatives. Not a good day to be Scottish and shows what a scam the SNP is.
easy1355 2 years ago
Did you sit through the travesty of Megrahi's trial? There was not one single piece of material evidence linking him to the crime. The reason he was released was because everyone familiar with the case knew the wrong man was sent to jail and they didn't want the embarrassment of the truth coming out in his appeal. Expert testimony after expert testimony pointing to Megrahi's innocence was summarily dismissed. There was no jury. At least 2 of the "witnesses" were paid by the CIA.....
Avicenna9 2 years ago
...evidence was tampered with. Crucial evidence was withheld from the trial which included a break in at Heathrow's Pan Am depot and the testimony of a baggage handler who said he saw an extra samsonite matching exactly the case that contained the bomb mysteriously appear on top of the other luggage. Hundreds of pages of evidence and arguments were suppressed by the US "supervisors" present at the trial. These will be released by lawyers soon. Keep your trap shut until you have the facts.
Avicenna9 2 years ago
You really believe this conspiracy crap? I'd feel sorry for you but I get the impression you're an idiotic turd in need of a good slap in the face. Maybe your mother will do it. However, it's your mother I feel truly sorry for. She has the stigma of being the sow that brought you into this world. =(
hippieshatewater 2 years ago
Yes, I knew that the facts would overwhelm your brain.
FYI, "Conspiracy theorists" are generally people who continue to believe in a crazy theory IN SPITE of the facts. Hello? Recognize yourself in that definition?
It's also interesting that the many of the families of the British victims don't believe Megrahi got a fair trial either. I think that could be explained by a cerebral process which many Americans seem unfamiliar with...it's called THINKING.
Avicenna9 2 years ago
If he was truly innocent, he would have demanded another trial even after the deal was offered.
He took the deal, so he is guilty.
Vikkoman 2 years ago
@Vikkoman
If he is guilty, why offer him a "deal"?
The deal was that they'd release Megrahi if his lawyers promised not to release documents pointing to his innocence. Hello?
You see, Deductive reasoning requires at least two brain cells working in colloboration.
Avicenna9 2 years ago
Avicenna: I need a source from a reliable source that states that the deal was in exchange for keeping documents secret.
It doesn't make sense - if Megrahi's own lawyers had documents proving his innocence, they could simply publicize them and let the cat out of the bag
My brain cells are working fine, thanks
Vikkoman 2 years ago
The Lockerbie disaster will stay with me as long as i live, and God bless all who suffered in that dastardly deed.
I feel that NO terrorist should be released from jail, for any reason!!!...not least, the irish republican terrorists, who, by the way, got most of their weapons, money and support from the USA.
I don't recall Hilary Clinton bleetin' about that.
It seems there are double standards at work when it comes to the USA, and terrorists.
rockinbillyboy 2 years ago
Scotland is an embarrassment to the Kingdom, kick them out, and let them destroy their own country, and STOP using my English taxes to prop this useless, whining country up....
easy1355 2 years ago 2
Unionists showing their true colours.
lol
TheSpiaire 2 years ago
you never know....
easy1355 2 years ago
21 nations represented on the flight.That's 20 nations which had no connection whatsoever with America's wrongdoings in the middle -east,and 1 nation which only had that connection by their nationality,and/or citizenship.21 years,a lot of agony,millions of dollars,and one conviction later and this is the result.The real criminals are the ones ruling the world.....
dutchy1176 2 years ago
Scotland. The country that puts up a statue of Mel Gibson because he does a film(he's a film star,that's all. Not a leader. An actor) that makes Scotland look oppressed. Now THAT is embarrassing.
j1o2h3n4n5y 2 years ago
And with regards to Bosch & Calley the US never were or ever will do anything about them or the CIA agents responsible for the murder of General Rene Schneider and who set up right wing death squads all over South America.
brightasblackout 2 years ago
All that stuff still doesn't excuse letting this guy go...
You can't deny that. Bringing up past redresses against the US government that have nothing at all to do with this case just makes you look stupid. If the Scottish government had said "we're releasing this guy because of [all the crap you're mentioning] that might have at least been a little brave". But as it is, they ended up looking stupid.
R0773N 2 years ago
who did scotland back down to? who is it they were so scared off they let this man free? this is a country who's soldiers are fighting hard in afghanistan and suffering disproportionate levels of casualties. why cowards. greedy maybe as the scots oil industry gets access to all that lovely libyan oil but you need to explain where ur accusation of cowardice comes from.
brightasblackout 2 years ago
It's just not a brave decision is all. Letting him rot in prison would have been brave. And honestly you may be right about Calley and Bosch. Especially Bosch, if he did what he's accused of. Still doesn't make releasing a murderer right.
The Scottish government wanted to appear merciful but instead they made a decision that made them look cowardly to the Libyans.
R0773N 2 years ago
why cowardly? libya has backed down to the west. they are now our allies in the war on terror. not a country to fear. I am not Scots so national pride is not an issue. In my opinion the Scots have acted in their own best interest and good luck to them. Another reason they may well have done this is to assert their independence and piss off the English but that's our arguement and nothing to do with the USA.
brightasblackout 2 years ago
Misplaced shows of "compassion" was simply just politically correctness. If the Scottish government had really wanted to make a political statement based on the fact that the US government has committed questionable acts, they should have done so. As it is, their reasoning was "compassion" and that shows no bravery. Letting them rot in prison would have been the bold thing to do.
R0773N 2 years ago
Is not unusual for brits to release dieing men. u just don't hear about it over their. like i said earlier look up ronnie biggs.
brightasblackout 2 years ago
You can't accuse the Scots of being soft. The Lybians are now our friends. They backed down to us. Lybian Intelligence now assist US intelligence in the war on Terror. Al Margrahi was not a terrorist but an agent of his nation. Assuming his guilt he has done no better or worse than many UK and US intelligence operatives (u wanna list?) who walk free on our own lands.
brightasblackout 2 years ago
typhoon07
correct
a million death and no prison penalty for bush or blair=== DISGRACE
TONY SNOUT HAS KILLED 209 OF OUR OWN SOLDIERS
sue22sue 2 years ago
Like you give a shit for soldiers. Your trying desperately to gain support,even from groups you would normally detest.
j1o2h3n4n5y 2 years ago
"Go to Scotland and say that..." What the FUCK would I want to go to Scotland for? Why do you think there's only a paltry 5 million left? Their all fucking off.
j1o2h3n4n5y 2 years ago
I really feel for these relatives.Their legs have been pulled for 21 years.I think they are very strong people.Just look at those young faces on the photos of the victims,looking forward to a bright future after their studies abroad,and then never getting to that future.What has the world learned from this??Not a damn thing!Which government gives a shit??Not a single one!History will keep repeating itself,when lessons aren't learned.Just look at what's happened in the world since 1988...
dutchy1176 2 years ago
tony snout should take his place
tony snout has blood on his hands
EVIL CVNT
JUST LIKE HIS SCREAM FACE WIFE
sue22sue 2 years ago
Exactly, G.WBush is the biggest terrorist of everyone else!
scotschic 2 years ago 2
Oh wait I forgot, It was just Americans whom died on the Pan Am flight.
Oh wait no Scottish, or any other foriegner were killed either, the target was just the US rolls my eyes,
scotschic 2 years ago
i thought the scottish were ruled by the English, didnt realise they had there own paliment. Shame, couldent see the English letting him go they seem to have a backbone. SCOTTISH COWARDS
MrFergielove 2 years ago
Using the same logic does that make the American handling of Orlando Bosch an example of a lack of American backbone? Can I shout AMERICAN COWARDS?
brightasblackout 2 years ago
Dipshit, this is someone who was already CONVICTED IN A COURT OF LAW. And besides, two wrongs don't make a right.
R0773N 2 years ago
He was convicted on the evidence of one unreliable witness who had changed his story on a number of occasions. He was not tried by jury but by a panel of judges. He was released on the grounds he dropped his appeal against conviction because what the govt feared was the truth of the matter coming to light, Prior to Megrahi coming into the frame US intelligence were saying this is the work of Iran & Syria. Iraq invaded Kuwait, Syria joined coalition and suddenly Lybia is to blame. Yeah right.
brightasblackout 2 years ago
As for setting a good example how do you explain LT William Calley being convicted for the premeditated murder of 347 women, chidren and elderly men; sentenced to life hard labour and released after 3 years confinement to quarters. Or the pardoning of convicted terrorist and plane bomber Orlando Bosch. Can you imagine how furious or frustrated the Vietnamese or Cubans feel? Oh you do? Not nice is it.? The crime occured in Scotland. They decide. You put up with it. Tough!
brightasblackout 2 years ago
Tough? I think we should grab the scumbag ourselves, it's not like the cowardly Scots could or would do anything about it. The rest of your post is completely illogical, for one thing, this scumbag was convicted of a crime by our ally. And another, just because you didn't like what the US did in this case doesn't make your act any less cowardly.
R0773N 2 years ago
"your" ? I'm English it has nothing to do with my country just like it has nothing to do with your's
brightasblackout 2 years ago
For all then yanks calling us "terrorist loving scots", you lot let George Bush for free and he did a whole load worse than Megrahi.
So just go back to hating someone else.
Typhoon07 2 years ago
Fuck you coward, you and your cowardly don't even have the courage to keep a mass murderer behind bars.
R0773N 2 years ago
Neither do you. You lot have let some Gitmo prisoners go too. But at least we had the courage to put people on trial. So get back to me when Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld are on trial and we'll talk.
Typhoon07 2 years ago
You are such a loony toons. If they committed a crime, they will go to jail, period. But we'd never let someone who even killed out own people go free.
You're clearly a nutcase and so is your government.
R0773N 2 years ago
YES ,,OUR GOVERNMENT ARE NUTCASES
agreeing to fight in bush's illegal wars
sue22sue 2 years ago
Even that's true, why does that make letting a mass murderer out of jail ok?
R0773N 2 years ago
show me the evidence he done the bombing
sue22sue 2 years ago
You fucking retard, if you think he's innocent then give him a new trial... don't SET HIM FUCKING FREE!
Dumb fucking cunt.
R0773N 2 years ago
another white wash trial....
no thanks....
scotland the brave i say
sue22sue 2 years ago
So legal wars are ok? Dickhead.
j1o2h3n4n5y 2 years ago
yes..legal wars like defeating hitler INVADING us are ok....
but bombing a country that might be harbouring terrorist which has to happen to be full of oil is ilegal
sue22sue 2 years ago
Oh yes,the old Hitler one. Nobody would object to that one would they. You said wars. Plural. Name another one.
j1o2h3n4n5y 2 years ago
Why, because I have a balanced and don't believe everything that the media says. Your government caused two wars and over 1, 000, 000 people dead and got away without any trail at all. How is that ok but a man who has a dodgy trail who at least served some jail time bad?
Typhoon07 2 years ago
You fucking jizz swallower! Don't you realise Scotland is one fucking big wimp! You're sticking up for a goverment that cares more for a foreigner than it's own people. And even YOU think they can't hold a fair trial. Scotland? It's a fucking joke.
j1o2h3n4n5y 2 years ago
Right...Which is why wasting your own troops for foreigner's "freedom and democracy" is still ok is it? You and your country can't call anyone else "wimps" or "cowards". And since the majority of the world hates ignorant people like you, you're best just to shut the fuck up and obay what your beloved masters tell you to do.
Typhoon07 2 years ago
"Obay"? You're typing ENGLISH,get it right. Those troops you talk about are ALL volunteers. No conscripts.
j1o2h3n4n5y 2 years ago
"goverment"? You're typing ENGLISH, get it right.
And just because they are in the military doesn't mean they are to be used to pointless wars. And remember, politicians start wars, not soldiers.
Typhoon07 2 years ago
Nobody likes a smart arse,except me. Politicians do start wars(and some are ex soldiers) and your justice secretary has fucked up. Big time.
j1o2h3n4n5y 2 years ago
Smart arse? Seems your hypocracy is going overboard today. And the way the americans are blowing this out of proportion is pathetic.
Typhoon07 2 years ago
I think their right. He had to choose a side. Fuck compassion. Did he chose to respect the Scottish families? No. Or even the American families? No. He sided with one Libyan.
j1o2h3n4n5y 2 years ago
Fuck compassion? Fuck ignorance and incompetence.
Typhoon07 2 years ago
And fuck you.
j1o2h3n4n5y 2 years ago
You believe in U.F.O's you fucking child. Oh dear,if I had known that sooner I wouldn't have wasted my time.
j1o2h3n4n5y 2 years ago
Yeah, I do. And the only child here is you resorting to pathetic insults because you can't have a mature arguement.
Have a nice day.
Typhoon07 2 years ago
No it's your government that's pathetic, letting a murdering scumbag go free for such a bullshit reason.
Maybe Scotland needs to be "liberated"?
R0773N 2 years ago
Yeah, bring it on.
But the only place that's going to be liberated is the US when god arrives.
Typhoon07 2 years ago
You guys used to have balls, what happened?
Kinda sad...
R0773N 2 years ago
We still do. But having balls doesn't mean being complete evil.
Typhoon07 2 years ago
You're a absolute nitwit... how is keeping a murderer in prison "complete evil"?
Pinhead.
R0773N 2 years ago
I didn't say it was and just like Bill O'reilly you are taking things the wrong way. Complete evil is invading other countries, torturing, false flag operations, bringing in draconian law.
Typhoon07 2 years ago
C'mon, you certainly implied it. This case has nothing to do with Iraq or bill O'Reilly, why are you bring them up?
R0773N 2 years ago
You called me a pinhead so you must watch Bill O'reilly. And for iraq, I used that as an example of how the release of the prisoner pales compared to it.
Typhoon07 2 years ago
I've only seen small tidbits of his how... anyway, the two are completely seperate issues and you're a fool if you can't even figure that much out.
R0773N 2 years ago
You invaded iraq because your leader said saddam was funding al qaeda and since lockerbie was a terrorist attack, in a way, they are both linked.
You fail.
Typhoon07 2 years ago
That's actually not at all why we invaded. If you're that ignorant you really shouldn't be debating.
R0773N 2 years ago
It's partly the reason. Bush did use 9/11 as a cover storyfor invading iraq. Want me to post a link to the video of it?
Typhoon07 2 years ago
No.
R0773N 2 years ago
given libya are now our friends and that the guy was mearly doing his duty as an agent of his country (assuming his guilt), the dubiousness of the evidence convicting him and that the british justice system allows dieing men to die at home (look up Ronnie Biggs) I can't see what was so stupid about the scot's govt's actions. and as i said earlier the crime was committed in scotland and it's scotland's decision.
brightasblackout 2 years ago
He was convicted in a court of law for mass murder, this is a ridulous and cowardly decision on Scotland's part... period.
R0773N 2 years ago
As were Bosch and Calley. One rule for the USA another for the rest of the world. Hypocrits.
brightasblackout 2 years ago 2
Yes.
Typhoon07 2 years ago
can you explain why you invaded?
brightasblackout 2 years ago
Sigh, look it up, do I have to explain everything? Bush said there were WMD's...
it doesn't matter anyway, I was not in favor of invading... it still doesn't excuse the stupidity of the scottish government in this case.
R0773N 2 years ago
So how does it not matter, you weren't in favour of it? Right, so the release of the prisoner didn't matter because other people weren't in favour of it.
Oh wait, you just contradicted yourself, again.
Typhoon07 2 years ago
Ya' know, from your videos and stuff it looks like I'm arguing with some sort of David Icke crazy conspiracy theorist.
See for yourself, kiddies.
R0773N 2 years ago
Y'know, with your level of self ignorance it seems like I'm arguing with a brick wall. Or at least you have the IQ of one.
Typhoon07 2 years ago
Seen any reptilian humanoids lately?
R0773N 2 years ago
Yeah, when I was watching the video of Geroge Bush blaming Iraq for 911.
Typhoon07 2 years ago
R0773N - Now THERE'S an idea.
(1) Give the Queen and her family 48 hours to leave Scotland for ever.
(2) If the Windsors ever turn up here again then put them on a US special forces hit list for assassination.
(3) If US special forces need back-up - send the 82nd and 101st Airborne divisions here, maybe backed up with a tank division.
No "maybe"about it -
"O! say can you see by the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming? ..."
FREEDOM!
ScottishStandard 2 years ago
R0773N - We are discussing liberating Scotland on the For Freedom Forums - with Americans most welcome!
You are invited! Use the link's in this video's (more info) details to find the For Freedom Forums and register today!
ScottishStandard 2 years ago
typhoon..well said
dont forget condy rice aswell
sue22sue 2 years ago
Jailed financer Madoff is dying of cancer. I don't think he'll be released and he didn't kill anyone.
j1o2h3n4n5y 2 years ago
Blndrfist - wherefore art thou Blndrfist? No comebacks this time. I hope your not ill with anything trivial.
AnEclecticMusicFan 2 years ago
The Scots were right to release this man The only thing they got wrong was when his plane was over the English Channel en route to Libya it should have been blown up into little pieces and that would show the fucker
nomoreterrorism 2 years ago
Let's see he is terminally ill,is a terrorist,sounds like he'd make a good suicide bomber! Let's hope I'm wrong. I do not hate the Scotts or any one in the U.K. but am disappointed by the decision.
flippysnotze 2 years ago
When will the United States punish Luis Posada Carriles for blowing up Cubana Flight 455 , on 6 October 1976 , killing all 73 people on board ?
MrLaurentiu1980 2 years ago
Terrorist loving Scots.
jjsalmiya 2 years ago
This Yank says FUCK YOU SCOTLAND!
jjsalmiya 2 years ago
And you too ! Let me compare Scotland to America ? Do we lock up innocent people in Cuban camps...NO ! Do we kill our allies in so called friendly fire...NO ! Need I go on ?
You are the most hated country in the World so go and do one you ignorant little man !!
conachcraig 2 years ago
I say again - FUCK YOU SCOTLAND.
jjsalmiya 2 years ago
I am going to say what any sane person would say to you and that is nothing ! You are contemptible ! This is a nation that committed genocide on native Americans !
conachcraig 2 years ago
If you have nothing to say, what the hell was that? Fucking clown you.
jjsalmiya 2 years ago
This Scot says get tae fuck.
yapurehefty 2 years ago
yapurehefty - I haven't met a Scotsman whae disnae say thon.
AnEclecticMusicFan 2 years ago
ME 2,,, SOME LITTLE SOON TO BE TERRORIST SEE THIS AND WANT TO BE A FAMOUS TERRORIST THAT KILLS HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE AND YOU GET humanity AND A Parade IN YOUR NAME MAKES ME WHY NOT RIGHT MAKES ME WANT TO BLOW UP A SCOTISH PLANE???????? NOT THATS FOR LOSER SCUM LIKE TERRORISTS AND SCOTISH WEAKASS LIBERAL PUNKS
Conservativepacheat 2 years ago
And there is absolutely NOTHING you can do about it.
brightasblackout 2 years ago
Conservativepacheat are you okay there? You seem a little flustered - either that or you're just a feckin eejit.
AnEclecticMusicFan 2 years ago
...we're running out of oil,aren't we??
dutchy1176 2 years ago
Look on the bright side the UK doesn't have to pay for his up keep anymore.
AmericanWarrior1776 2 years ago 2
Actually no, that's not the definition of a Unionist... Try looking at the relationship between Northern Ireland and Great Britain...
richardday 2 years ago
Hey, you morons don't you got that yet? the Brits wanted to get their share of the oil in Libya and created the whole problem and convicted this innocent man. when last years the brits get their share they released the man. if you didn't get that go and live in China. Bush did the same thing, he killed 4 thousands in 9/11 and gain full control of the oil in Irak.
So tell me who are the terrorists here.
your governments sacrifying and killing you like a sheep to get to the oil in Arab lands.
asrimostalg 2 years ago
I like this! Fairness and compassion for terrorists. In the name of fairness and compassion, I think England should release some IRA prisoners who might not be feeling well too. Fair is fair, right?
FreeBumbo 2 years ago
Firstly it was not England that released Megrahi it was Scotland. Scotland and England have different justice systems (would be like blaming Belarus for something Russia did): Secondly England released all IRA active service members convicted of terrorist offences as part of the Northern Irish peace process.
brightasblackout 2 years ago
brightasblackout - apt name, not particularly bright at all. You omitted to state that the UK govt also released all of the Loyalist(Protestant) terrorists convicted of violent crimes - many of these guys were previously in the payroll of the British security services (FRU, MI5, Special Branch)
AnEclecticMusicFan 2 years ago
Your bang on right AEMF. My reference to the IRA was in reply to someone who asked how would we feel if US released IRA prisoners. Loyalist paramilitaries killed many more innocent civilians than the IRA (who tended to target RUC and Brit army). The security service members who ran these loyalists were no better or no worse than the members of the Iranian and or Syrian (not Lybian oddly enough) security forces who killed innocent civilians at Lockerbie.
brightasblackout 2 years ago
nice thing about BasB as a name is when i do cock up i can always say never claimed to be a smart guy.
brightasblackout 2 years ago
That never occurred to me :P
AnEclecticMusicFan 2 years ago
so although most of the time i'm as bright as a blackout shall we say i have my moments?
brightasblackout 2 years ago
well put BasB ...LOL
AnEclecticMusicFan 2 years ago
This is a disgrace and embarrasing, just shows how weak this country is!! one word OIL!
rallycameraction1 2 years ago
WHy are people making this into a US vs Scotland thing? SCOTS DIED TOO, they should just as if not more pissed than Americans.
R0773N 2 years ago
Blndrfist-er , once again you prove that you are shit at comprehension. You extract one line from a post and take it enitrely out of context as ammo for your assinine insults. Guitar you may be good at language you are not apparently. Now show us yer wee devil sign that you love doing at concerts and gigs because you the heir apparent to Ozzie aren't you. LMFBO
AnEclecticMusicFan 2 years ago
Thank God somebody out there has some common sense!
I hope the SNP and New Labour are put out of office forever.
TheEastFifeLoon 2 years ago
He is going to live larger than life in the mean time before the death envoy comes calling.
BABS7474 2 years ago
Boy this shit really pisses me off. Wheres a soldier of fortune when you need one.
Dancing88Mike 2 years ago
Mr Al Megrahi has expressed no remorse for the Lockerbie bombing because he claims to be innocent. He has expressed sympathy for the victims-of which he is one if he is innocent.
The evidence suggests that his conviction was highly dubious.
If he is innocent, it's better to release him when he's still alive, and even if he is guilty, he is going to die soon anyway-having spent the last 8 years of his life in prison, it's not as if he's not been punished.
rickelmonoggin 2 years ago
the americans cant bitch they blew up a plane with iranians heading to mecca, ak981260 got is spot on for england not to forget bloody sunday in ireland so before u start bitching more bout our country i think u need to think long and hard bout all the war crimes both the english and the yanks have been involved in. either way he should b locked up n the government did this not scotland
sephiroth666lives 2 years ago
Die very soon, you bastard!!
You're not a hero!!!
IAB34 2 years ago 3
I didn't notice americans feeling it was wrong when IRA terrorists were released from prison. Just saying, like...
wangpangu 2 years ago
Wang - When did the US release IRA terrorists?
jjsalmiya 2 years ago
I didn't say they did. Good Friday Agreement- google this, educate yourself.
I'm not scottish, I don't care- I'm English and We Won The Ashes!!!! Hooray!!! That's all I care about.
wangpangu 2 years ago
It made me laugh when macaskill said this guy showed no compassion for 270 lives
but we are SCOTTISH thats the reason why we should be compasionate to him
the bigest non sencilcle contradiction ive ever heard
I really think he studied this guys case and realised he was in fact not guilty so thats the reason for the compassion.
5exyback 2 years ago
Our Scottish Government got this 100% right. This is the law of our lands if this man dying from a terminal illness then he should be released die, Our government rejected the prison transfer but released on compassionate grounds because he is going to die. It would be a different case if the man wasnt sick.
BYSONG 2 years ago
BYSONG - The SNP government is an ANTI-Scottish government which has sold us out to Queen Elizabeth and the Union of the Crowns.
It is not the law of the land that a dying prisoner SHOULD be released. Oh no, he MAY be released if his case warrants compassion in all the circumstances.
I would have thought that Megrahi would have been the very last person in Scotland to deserve such compassion.
I am sure there are sicker prisoners who have done lesser crimes who DON'T get released.
ScottishStandard 2 years ago
I'm wondering what planet you're on.Tthe SNP are the Scottish Nationalist Party, nothing to do with the UK and nothing to do with the Queen.
Part of becoming a nation is having the balls to take responsibility for what you do wrong, but you're trying to pass the buck.
This release is an act carried out by Scottish nationalist & everyone in Scotland who votes for then is responsible for their actions.
Rundogz 2 years ago
Rundogz - I am on planet Earth where Queen Elizabeth is the head of state of the United Kingdom which rules Scotland through a devolved government whose First Minister Alex Salmond, leader of the SNP was appointed by the Queen.
The SNP CLAIM to be a "nationalist" party but they don't support Scottish national independence - they are a UNIONIST party who support the Union of the Crowns and want Queen Elizabeth as head of state of the Scottish kingdom.
The Scottish nation is NOT responsible!
ScottishStandard 2 years ago
The SNP are a nationalist party, full of people who actively dislike the UK. They are not unionist and are taking Scotland away from the Union.
McAskill is appointed by Scotland, not the Queen.
Rundogz 2 years ago
Rundogz - The SNP are not nationalists except in name only. They are traitors to the nation because they oppose true Scottish national independence which could only be delivered when we Scots ELECT the head of state of the state which rules us.
The SNP are happy to serve the UK by running its devolved government of Scotland.
The SNP want to rule Scots under the personal union of Queen Elizabeth therefore they are unionists.
Lands appoint no-one. MacAskill was appointed QFM Salmond.
ScottishStandard 2 years ago
Well given that McAskill has written a book about how they'll govern after full indepenence I'm guessing he's a true nationalist.
Plus we all know that the SNP are playing the game to prove they can hold power after which they'll hold a vote.
What's bothering you is that this paints Scottish nationalist ministers as cretins who are unfit for power & you're right to be worried.
But like I say, you need to stop hiding behind the apron strings on this one, it's Scotlands choice, Scotsmen called it.
Rundogz 2 years ago
Rundogz - By "they" MacAskill means "the SNP" a royalist party which has NO programme towards any kind of Scottish national independence.
Imagine Prince Charles in a kilt with a Scottish flag, the Saltire, on top as an apron and Prince Charles, as "the Duke of Rothesay", heir to the throne of the Kingdom of Scotland, is butchering Scots who have dared to fight for freedom.
That is the SNP vision for "Scottish independence" and it is treason against the nation.
ScottishStandard 2 years ago
Well given that many Scots are loyal to the Royal family the policy of the SNP towards them seems to be muted hostility.
The SNP are an independence party, they state it on their website, they have many pages devoted to independence and how Scotland will be better for it. They have plans to bring it about, they intend to hold a referendum.
But if you're going to throw out every nationalist party when they make a mistake then I can promise you that Scotland will never leave the Union.
Rundogz 2 years ago
Rundogz: The SNP are in no rush to a vote in rigged referendum to cement rule of the Queen over Scotland because they already have that in large measure.
The Queen's ministers certainly are cretins who are unfit for power but they are not "nationalists" except in name only, really traitors.
We Scots have never been allowed a free and fair choice in elections because TV broadcasting is controlled by royalist elites.
Of course any Scottish patriot would be worried by SNP games.
ScottishStandard 2 years ago
Given that the UK had Scottish Kings and we were mostly very happy with that & given that the current line is German, then opposing them is pointless at best and petty at worst.
By all means though you can find a blood line Scots King, maybe it'll be Salmond you never know, and he can appoint your ministers with his powerless rubber stamp, and then they can release mass murderers, & then you'll be really screwed to find someone to blame.
Rundogz 2 years ago
Rundogz - I meant to type Kenny MacAskill was appointed by the Queen's First Minister (QFM) Alex Salmond, who was appointed by a warrant signed by Queen Elizabeth and handed to him personally with TV cameras present in Holyrood Palace.
If you doubt me in any way then watch this video uploaded to my ScotlandsMessenger channel.
"Alex Salmond surrenders to Queen Elizabeth"
watch?v=ymmNYJztQTE
ScottishStandard 2 years ago
The Queen is a powerless figurehead who merely rubber stamps the choices made by the Scottish people as you well know.
Salmond has not surrendered to the powerless Queen, he is a radical nationalist who is going to remove Scotland fully from the Union if he can.
What you need to accept is that the Scottish ministers you elected will get it wrong sometimes. If you think being a seperate country is so good, you'll have to get used to taking shit for what your country does.
Rundogz 2 years ago 4
Your appear to be one of the brigade that seems to equate vengance with justice. Compassion Insures that Scotland has done right.
Given the pressure that macaskal was under he 100% right without fear or favour.
The sign of a true statesman. The UK government would have bowd down to the U.S like puppies like they always do.
BYSONG 2 years ago
BYSONG - Scotland didn't release this man. MacAskill appointed by Salmond appointed by the Queen released him.
MacAskill is a puppy of the Queen and he bows down to her and to CERTAIN patronising Americans, such as US Presidents who invite the Queen to the White House, who seem to think that Scots should not be trusted to elect our own head of state, a president of a Scottish republic.
MacAskill bows to Gaddafi and everyone else EXCEPT us Scots who have a right to elect our own president.
ScottishStandard 2 years ago
Are you Irish in disguse?
Ive never heard such mince in life. If were in the union or out of the union Scotland will still be a commonwealth country.
You need to look at the facts and how this country is ran countries like canada, austrilia and new zealand still reconize her as their crown.
SAOR ALBA
BYSONG 2 years ago
Same as my comment to the above. Don't tar all Irish with the same brush!!
truebot 2 years ago