Zen Master Pohwa Part 1

[BluePittbull666]

i like yoga meditation better.

u don't have to waste ur time on a koan.

plus u don't have to be a munk.

[amn3h23h2]

how does one know the difference between someone who is truly enlightened and one who is really good at imitating other masters? sometimes it's obvious that the person is the real deal, but other times they seem like they might be but it's unclear. maybe the doubt means they aren't?

this is a genuine question, and any help would be appreciated.

[GenuineHeather]

@amn3h23h2 How can you tell if a mountain has gold buried within? Which is more important, the mountain, or the gold?

[animejoao]

his problem with the english language is making dificult to make sense of anything he is saying and some of zen quotes loose they sense when translated to another language.

[kw1ksh0t]

Lmao I thought you meant "Zen Master Power" in the title :)

[cesegjbk6732]

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[wonhyoluv]

A reporter interviewed my master's grandmaster (105+ years old). They talked about how monks drinking too much and other bad things. The grandmaster said, "I've only heard about it, I never saw it." The grandmaster asked, "How did you hear?" He replied, "With my ears." The master shouted, "Corpse has ears, but corpses cannot hear!" After that the reporter became a good practitioner. The is within us.

[wonhyoluv]

Between objective truth and subjectivity, it is hard to decide which side is preferred. As the old adage says, "From dust to dust, ashes to ashes," our mortality (or finitude) limits from saying definitely that God is X or human is X. But right now, in this moment, we can only talk about the phenomenon of our speech, our dialogue. This is why I said, "Dust to dust, ashes to ashes."

[EpicGwyn]

Sunim! Holy crap -- I took precepts from Pohwa Sunim in 1997. He helped me through my first kong-an. All dharmas (a) are impermanent; (b) on YouTube.

[JohnLennon100]

I'm sorry to drift from the subject ....but that WIG really is unnerving..

[EnvyAbomination]

I think the Priest was confuzzled by the monk's answer. xD

[rog27s]

Sunim's way of responding is to do the only thing Zen was meant to do: eliminate the abstraction of thought into logical dualism and move one closer to the direct experience. This is why he asserts that the reporter's meddling in hearsay was not real and that only the dead (those who cannot really know) have ears. This makes perfect sense. His answer illustrates that the question had a false premise: that it matters not what the modern world offers; the truth remains the truth.

[MakyoAkuma]

Does he make more sense in person? And by "sense," I mean sense in the conventional, deluded, discriminative logical manner. For a person on the very first panel of the 10 Oxherding Pictures, Sunim's way of responding can be confusing and perhaps even off-putting. No offense to anyone.

[MadMonk108]

Keep sitting.

[MakyoAkuma]

Thanks.

[michaellas1]

when you invite people for a spiritual talk, you don't choose to sit on pub chairs

[MadMonk108]

I've had wonderful spiritual talks on pub chairs...sometimes even in pubs!

[michaellas1]

I trust you, just don't get mad! :)

[1macboo]

@michaellas1

Why not?

[michaellas1]

inappropriate setting... especially the chairs

[MadMonk108]

Where would you have done it?

[1macboo]

@michaellas1

Why?

[LEVRAIVRAIZEN]

@1macboo because I want to kill dark side god !

[1macboo]

@LEVRAIVRAIZEN

I'm not understanding you. peace :-)

[LEVRAIVRAIZEN]

@1macboo Unthinking want to perdon to himself. When he gets the goal, you awake !

[fliptthescript]

what the hell did the monk say? haha. ONly thing i understood was thank you haha.

[MadMonk108]

Thank you! How are you today?

[wireless213]

wow your ungodly person...

[MadMonk108]

From where did you see an ungodly person?

[wireless213]

i wasn't talking about you i was talking about some one who posted bad comment here....

[MadMonk108]

I still want to know from where did you see an ungodly person?

[wireless213]

I don't remember... what comment it was...  I attend won myung sa in los angeles...

[MadMonk108]

Grammar! Use it!

[imthepowerer5000]

forget language

[MadMonk108]

Forgot your comment.

[jiedinghui99]

Buddhism is not a theistic religion. It dose not deal with theology or God as creator or eternal being. Although the Asian belief system is filled with countless gods and goddesses, deities and unseen spirits, please do not be confused with what Westerners think of as God.

[MadMonk108]

Please do not confuse yourself by thinking of Westerners. You're only causing yourself delusion.

[XGnodabX]

I remember converting this at the temple a few years back. when the heck did it get so many views!?

[krazyko2]

Who would throw mudballs but a child? Who would be covered in mud but a child? In order to be lions, then, we must take a bite from/of innocence?

[MadMonk108]

Stop bringing outside ideas. You're too caught up in your own mental pictures & preconceived notions. You have not understood "dog chases mudballs, lion bites thrower" because you're trying too hard.

Go back to the koan. Work with it simply. Don't try to challenge it. Don't try to come up with an intelligent or a "Zen" answer. Just work with it.

[krazyko2]

I'm not trying to be intelligent or "Zen." How can I find an answer without trying hard to find it? What is the simple way? You say bite the thrower so we should be the lion. What does it mean to be a lion and how do you find it out without having preconceived notions about what a lion is?

[MadMonk108]

You've already gone to far.

Go back to where Pohwa-seunim says "Dog chases mudballs. Lion bites thrower."

[kangdanlin]

do you guys know who is singing the song in the begining?...

[Amirmourad]

Beware of the master.

[MadMonk108]

Beware fools who speak as if they know.

[deepchild2064]

Ahh, bless them both! I study Buddhism and do have a large soft-spot for the Catholics. Despite their dark-side, at the forefront of a lot of social-justice stuff over the years...

[MadMonk108]

Like so many other things on YouTube, you have armchair warriors criticizing things they don't understand.

無講口. 講手.

[rgn39]

I love this video. The zen monk gets to the heart of the matter very quickly while the priest goes the long route.

[dj4ipolino]

here is a great example of just a "talker" & someone who understands. this poor christian trying to show himself as a such nice & polite person, when Zen master just speaking the way he feels & what he feels.. who would you go for a morning walk with? :))

[charlesdarwin321]

@dj4ipolino

Interesting you say that, because in response to the first question the monk actually sounds like a nihilist, all actions are neither right nor wrong? While the priest presents an actual answer based on evidence.

[lottopluslotto]

Ying yang wham bam...anyone ever heard of an evil zen master or a nasty buddha??....Wake up....you need the positive touch,else you are made of stone with a stone heart.Yip!!

[zencat]

I quite agree, but remember too that a positive touch can take the form of a slap.

[lottopluslotto]

God yah,I've read of masters throwing monks out upstairs windows and breaking their necks only to be thanked for the needed final push through the intellect's balloon.The fact that this "master"( I really don't think he is one) chooses the word "Angels" when attempting to use paradox whilst replying to the question "What is evil?".(maybe part 2 or 3 of this )....if he was any good he would have said "Good".He's just intellectualising from memory and he is under pressure.

[MadMonk108]

He wasn't attempting to use a paradox.

Dogs chase mudballs.

Lion bites thrower.

[DonkeyofHeaven]

No this is not a "dharma combat." It is two monks talking about their paths.

"A corpse has ears, why doesn't it hear?"

"Dust to dust, ashes to ashes."

Pohwa is doing the best he can with the cultural language issues. Both guyes have very nice smiles.

[zencat]

Sorry, I should have said "If this WERE Dharma combat". Your point regarding language and culture is taken, but I think my observation still stands.

[DonkeyofHeaven]

Is "Zen Dharma Exchange" a community access TV show? Where does this come from? Mills starts out on an interesting note calling them "Two men who have devoted themselves to God." Does Mills use the term "God" because he's a Christian?

[zencat]

If this is Dharma combat, the Catholic priest is on top. He points directly to non-duality. Koan answers are not appropriate in this forum. Pohwa casts pearls at swine.

[MadMonk108]

Take off your stinky pants.

[zencat]

Attachment to your teacher is the worst kind of stinkiness.

[MadMonk108]

Stop chasing mudballs.

[Amirmourad]

Mudballs do not exist.

[MadMonk108]

Then why do you chase them?

[Amirmourad]

I don't.

[MadMonk108]

Hahahaha...you are already covered in mud!

[Amirmourad]

That makes two of us.

[MadMonk108]

Now you're getting somewhere. Unfortunately, you're still chasing mudballs.

Learn to bite the thrower.

[Amirmourad]

If mudballs do not exist, why should the teeth ?

[MadMonk108]

Stop biting yourself!

[krazyko2]

Must we bite the thrower in order to roar? Or can we not roar without first eating the meat?

[MadMonk108]

Who said anything about roaring?

Go back to the koan.

Do not bring outside pictures.

[pragzter]

This is by far the most entertaining thread of comments on youtube ever.

[MadMonk108]

Don't forget to tip your waitress!

[vmazzz]

POHWA RULLZZ !!! GET A DEEP FIST :D

[opiate9]

laughing at rdwaller's comment.  Master Pohwa kicks much ass. Thanks.

[glimmerman108]

Thank you and a deep Gassho for this series.

--Matsukatsu Heidamura Tenshin

[MadMonk108]

you're welcome.

[rdwaller]

one's head stick's forward very far

[mandumbala]

yo sunim! you are on youtube, nice