Cast off the shoe! Follow the gourd!

[imromancatholic]

Pretty simple answer. The pride you are displaying in your own thinking is the same pride that even the religous have. Therefore they elevate their own thinking rather than submitting to the one church that can be traced back 2000 years to Christ and his followers. It's called the one, holy, Catholic, apostolic Church. Check out the writings of the Church Fathers. They were Catholic. Go to any encyclopedia and see the line of popes back to Peter.

[imromancatholic]

I truly don't think you know what practicing a religion is from what you have given us. For instance Catholics don't just get close to God by partaking in the Eucharist. Your logic is atrocious. There are 50,000 different atheists all thinking they have THEE question that proves Christianity wrong as well. Most of them don't have a fundamental grasp of logic and reason either. From the mentality of your video you still have a lot of growing up to do little girl.

[PandyFackleresque]

@imromancatholic Religious "logic' can't be compared with actual logic since they aren't even on the same playing field. Nice try, though.

[imromancatholic]

@PandyFackleresque

You are right of course. Religion is above t he created world in which human logic exists. Religion is not illogical but it cannot be proven with logic because it's elements are not of this realm. It's like trying to prove the existence of quarks with a calculator. The calculator gives true results and is good in as far as it goes. But it is not the tool to prove quarks. In religion one must see with the eyes of faith, which is above the physical.

[jesuspuncher]

I cant take you seriously when you have that horseshoe in your lip. Jesus wants you to eat apples and poop ice cream, you should adhere to his holy words for the first to poop ice cream wins and everyone that tastes your prior attempts at making ice cream are the losers. Talking Donkey

[PandyFackleresque]

....awesome.

[tesiacole]

That sounds pretty Dumb! The tower of Babel was built by heathens not Christians!!! He served himself as a god Christians acually serve the one true God.

[PandyFackleresque]

If they were heathens, why were they building a tower to god? Also, it doesn't matter if they were heathens or not because according to your 2000 year old rule book, all people are god's children. What father would do that to his own children? By the sound of it, a drunk one.

[tesiacole]

Wrong again!! The bible dosen't say we are all Gods children!! It says "We are allGods creation" You know how you create a cake, you can keep it if you like or destroy it if its messed up!

[tesiacole]

I guarantee you there are no Atheist on hell!!!

[PandyFackleresque]

Well yeah, you're right. But there is no hell, so it's a non-point,

[PandyFackleresque]

How many times in the new testament did Jesus say we are all god's children?

[tesiacole]

~~It is really becomes pointless to continue this. you have your information all jacked up!!! Not even biblical! Ex: Find 1 time in the bible when he said we are all Gods children! It's not there! KING JAMES VERSON! but nice typing with you and your views!!!

[PandyFackleresque]

So, you mean that's it's pointless to continue this because you're admitting defeat and want to bow-out gracefully so when people read this discussion they'll think you're the "better man" and not a coward? That happens a lot around here.

[PandyFackleresque]

Also, here you go:

John 3:1-2: See how very much our heavenly Father loves us, for he allows us to be called his children, and we really are! But the people who belong to this world don't know God, so they don't understand that we are his children. Yes, dear friends, we are already God's children, and we can't even imagine what we will be like when Christ returns. But we do know that when he comes we will be like him, for we will see him as he really is.

[tesiacole]

This is why I said it is pointless to continue. And this will be my last message to you. You still are wrong again. Because I specifically said King james version so you wouldn't get the message twisted as you did.

[tesiacole]

3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

[PandyFackleresque]

Thank you for proving my point.

[TruthNotReligion]

@tesiacole Yes, cite your book because you can't use your own brain to formulate a response. How predictable.

[tesiacole]

Ok that clearly shows he is NOT speaking to all walks of the world (Everyone). He is talking to a specific group (Followers of Jesus Christ) He wasn't talking to Everyone!

[PandyFackleresque]

Considering how rabidly fanatic you seem to be about this subject, it's hilarious that an atheist knows more than you.

[tesiacole]

the Tower of Babel was not built for the worship and praise of God, but was instead dedicated to the glory of man, to "make a name" for the builders. To build the tower that reached into the heavens! Aka the sky

[PandyFackleresque]

There would be no reason for them to make a name for themselves compared to god if they didn't believe in god. If they were truely heathens, they wouldn't need to show up god.

[tesiacole]

Just for the record, I never wrote they believed in any other God but themselves as Gods!

[PandyFackleresque]

Then WHY would they be building a TOWER?

[tesiacole]

As I said before To glorify themselves. It could have also been like with the Egyptions. They built hudge monuments. So if people came to their land they would see the statuches and would not want to overturn them as a nation and take over. It's a inferior tactek so to speak. To seem as if they are the best ever. You know!

[PandyFackleresque]

You mean tactic. And yes, they wanted to seem like god so they built monuments to their nation.

[wulfric82]

Speaking as a deprogrammed, formerly brainwashed ex-Xtian, their reason is that whatever sects of Xtianity that isn't the one they are a part of is either: apostate, lazy, "worldly", or not "fully understanding the true word of god" - yuck I feel filthy just saying that...

AND, I just noticed your trigger finger ink! Boondock Saints is one of the best movies of all time. You rock.

[Ginorio]

umm..hail satan!

[concordcapshockey25]

well said. we all need something to look up to right? someone just decided to get a little creative...more than once...and off the same basic idea. people pray for help, for hope, a miracle, people all pray to something. and people do it because thats all they got left to do at some points in time and when they feel thats there last hope. people pray for forgiveness.

oh well.

[Zeitgeist28]

It's always about the manipulation and control of people.

The creators of these denominations, certainly acted out of selfish reasons.

Other then that. It's futile to look for logical reasons, other then even better and more precise instruments of manipulation and control.

[gunton]

One questions I like to ask is this, "God is all powerful and all knowing, the perfect being. However, the God of the New Testament and the God of the Old Testament are different. The old was wrathful and to be feared and the new talks about love and forgiveness. So the all powerful and all knowing God was perfect and then changed.  When something was perfect and changes the only thing it can become is imperfect, no?

[PandyFackleresque]

God joined AA

[s8ntmark]

I realized a while ago that asking questions like this is pointless. They just blame Satan or satanic influence for people corrupting the "one true religion" to confuse people or some other such bullshit.

I guess if you don't know, blame the Devil!

[gusb232]

Just to play theist advocate :

Yes your right each denomination thinks they are the best path, but i dont think most Christians think most other types of Christians are going to hell, unless your a southern baptist , or Calvinist.

But even someone like huckabee who's a baptist,(and thinks only his denomination gets into heaven) will give a violent criminal clemency if they just say they believe in jesus.

[zedslayerJoseph]

Yeah like Latum said, they would mirror the question. I've been in plenty of discussions like this and it goes nowhere. btw, love the Monty Python clip. I havent watched that whole movie yet, i need to though.

[LatumWay]

I think people will just respond to this by saying, "Well those other denominations aren't the true form of christianity". They'll just mirror the question back at you. Its illogical, yes, but that what I think will happen.

[PandyFackleresque]

Probably. I never expect much from those people.

[LatumWay]

Nor do I, my pierced pal.

[PandyFackleresque]

We're in agreeance then.

[Ssalamanderr]

Woah, you have a Veritas tattoo? Awesome. Boondock Saints much?

[toasterface86]

aw i love the duggars, they take care of the children they have without any help from the state or anywhere else, so whatever

[PandyFackleresque]

Until the media stepped in and gave them money hand over fist

[toasterface86]

no they have their own businesses and other ways of income way before being invloved wit the media.. they also do a fairly good job of trying to except otehr how they are, even if its not how they live

[samsland22]

I fucking love watching your videos

[PandyFackleresque]

Thanks!! :D

[QuarkyGideon]

You should look into the Cargo Cults.

[PandyFackleresque]

I did and it's....really weird. I guess some people can very literally start worshipping material goods.