This is what they want is it not? Otherwise the oil companies wouldn't have bought up every patent on alternative technologies to the internal cumbustion gas engine for the last 100 years.
People wake up if we use our raw materials faster than it can be replenish it's only a matter of time and we are talking about fossil fuel here, which species would be around to dig us up as fossil fuel.
Ohh who didnt see this comming ..... Over seas and the islands been paying WAY more than us than we are now..... they been paying $8.00 a gal 10 yrs. ago.
@Clausewitzz Very True ! they fog our brains with WAL-MART and Mc Donalds to make us think it is Paradise here , things will level out ... Just wait !
@Clausewitzz you have to think about Europe is much smaller than North America. In Europe, cities are much more condensed together. most cars in Europe are smaller but they don't have to drive much because their transportation is sufficient. Here, everywhere is far apart so we have to drive longer. it is just not sufficient. you know that the entire European continent can fit in to North America. These are just some of the reasons that European consumption of oil is lower.
Aussieperth2011- As the bronze age is our Plastic age humanity is a curse and will by it's own or anothers hand be ajusted - humanity is a body within another body-called universe infecting our worlds can not be allowed- each is DNA and worlds change is the next birth.
@AussiePerth2011 Don't condemn all of humanity for the disasters caused by a small group of humanity in a small part of its history. All of our problems can be traced back to the industrial revolution, which was forced on people by rapacious, pathological organizations which wanted power OVER nature. The natives lived in cyclical equilibrium with the wilderness for thousands of years and had true happiness in power THROUGH nature.
industrial revolution steam/oil - mistake in my language: I frequently write Oil when I really mean Fossil-Fuels: coal,oil,natural gas. oil is the prominent one. coal of course has similar properties as an "energy lottery win"
i'm sure we can use the oil more effieciently, doesn't change the fact that sustainable use is ZERO. A lasting civilization cannot use any finite resources at all - period. Some smart people begun to make these observations a while back and put up the Georgia Guidestones... Some think we're going back to the C18th. Others point out that back then we had larger forests, higher quality soil, high water tables and easy to access minerals, all gone now - its' back to the stone age!
>>"we wouldn't be in the middle east, but who cares about it?"
you can't sustain your way of life without oil, thats why you're in the middle east. no oil , no cars etc. no modern age. to build a renewable civilization you have to rewind all the way back to 1750 (world pop: 800m) and run some alternate history.. tell james watt, "dont do it", stick with windmillss etc and see how far you get. What material choices are viable ? what population can you support at each step?
>>"we wouldn't be in the middle east, but who cares about it?"
you can't sustain your way of life without oil, thats why you're in the middle east. no oil , no cars etc. no modern age. to build a renewable civilization you have to rewind all the way back to 1750 (world pop: 800m) and run some alternate history.. tell james watt, "dont do it", stick with windmillss etc and see how far you get. What material choices are viable ? what population can you support at each step?
@walter0bz and we shouldn't be repulsed at the idea of going back to the stone age. The ecosystem will finally be able to heal itself, we will have genuine freedom, and true human fulfillment. Civilization is an unnecessary evil and the industrial revolution has been a disaster for the human race.
Nuke plants are usefull to support our Overpopulation (essential even) but not viable for longterm human civilization because Urainium is also finite. The difference with the Sun is it is a "fixed energy income" that we can't choose to overspend. of course it will also run out but through no fault of our own, and not on our timescales.
"nuke plants.. don't work out financially" - nothing can compete with hydrocarbons - while they flow they provide superior energy - they are ready made. its like a farmer discovering 1000 years worth of ready-meals and finding he can't compete with those as a food provider. But also, nuke plants [1] were side effect of weapons [2] take lots of oil-powered tech to extract mineral ores, construct the plants themselves.. nuke plants do not create their own self-sustaining economy.[more
>>"No one wants to go to hydroponics because neither they or the government wants to sink the money"
.... then another country will figure it out. If you dont need oil input, you dont need much money to start hydroponics. That is.. unless its dependant on lots of oil constructed technology and materials like glass, artificial nutrients, plastic containers, pumping water around...
>>"We also figured out how to live without oil for millennium. "
- No we did not. Before the industrial revolution earths population was stable in measured in 100's of millions for millenia. The extra "energy lottery win" of fossil fuels (channeled through "technology") allowed ~10X the number to live.. white they are flowing, temporarily.
- I will clarify: Without oil, earth can support 2billion people. Oil allowed 6billion to live.To stop using oil, we need to get the population down to that level. Right now, we dont have a choice but to use fossil fuels. If we restrict births, the next generation can live using renewables. My practical suggestion is to restrict breeding to non-fossil-fuel users. They can have as many as they can renewably support.
"no one wants to invest..." - so, nature does what it does with solar power and waste materials, and water. To "make renewable tech" all you need is the waste we create, some unused land (unused by petro civilization), and perhaps water. you only need $ to buy the products of oil (e.g. metals extracted by oil, machines made & powered by oil). Which are inherently non-renewable, they'd be "cheating" if you want to know what a renewable civilization looks like.
@soullife9 - but where did the money come from? Money (when its' working right) is a symbol for energy. Oil became ubiquitous (when renewables were already availalble, e.g. sailing ships, windmills, and solar via biomass) because it was a 'lottery win'.
'mimickery/nature' - nature is already solar-powered, recycling, nano-machines.. its 'technology' is way more complex than anything we've engineered. Renewables wont build the civ we're used to. They can build/power themselves without petro-$
what % of the our world is down to human ingenuity and what part is from energy boost of oil? - to get an idea, compare complexity of our tech to the natural systems (biology). Our technology is **no where near** organic life in "engineering prowess". e.g. full consciousness generated by a 20 watt organic computer, self-replicating nano-machines that recycle everything...vs crude human technology that only looks good with millions of years worth of dead algae to burn
@soullife9 LMAO. plasma rockets but whats the energy source? i dont know the proposed tech but unless its a nuclear power source forget it. Here on earth, people are proposing Hydrogen as storage of renewable energy so I can't see rockets using something other than hydrogen fuel either.
CROP ROTATION!? we figured that out long ago. I dont doubt we'll figure out new techniques, but nothing will match the energy boost of oil.
@soullife9 I'm implying that our growth based cheap oil addicted economy has hit its peak. We can drill on the moon, the arctic or anywhere else but cheap oil reached its peak so now we have to change the whole system and people won't unless the whole thing collapses.....existing well's decline rates or 2-8% are the real peak oil issue.....
The solution to Peak Oil is obvious.As luck would have it this crisis has befallen us at a time when the USA is the world's sole super power.The solution=Brute military force.Of Course,a way to get the people 'on board' with the needed war would have to be found.I suggest a big 'terrorist' attack.Made for TV,dramatic! Explosion,flames etc.A few thousand dead.Pin it on Muslims & the people would beg for the needed wars or Did someone think of that already?
They try to make these documentaries sound stern and legit by using narrators with British accents. It's an old liberal trick so don't be fooled by it. Same goes for all that Attenborough save the wildlife stuff. It's all foppy smoke and mirrors.
@HorseCents I call it Colonial inferiority complex.Deep in the psyche of all former British colonies: (America & the Commonwealth Nations) is buried the notion that citizens of the mother country are innately superior.It's isn't true,of course,but it's burned in deep & we can't seem to shake it.It's why Hollywood uses people like Simon whatshisname & Piers Morgan & that horrible woman from 'Weakest link' here in America.It's somehow more cutting to be berated if their British.
@waitew, the Brits have bad teeth and they cover all their hot women in dowdy hoop dresses, except for that Pippa broad, but I don't like her face so much and she's top-light. But she has a bottom on her, that one.
Typical Godless liberal fear-mongering scarcity propaganda.
When God created the Earth He made certain that Man would have enough energy to last until The Rapture. Harold Camping had the date all wrong but the principle is sound.
Did you know that the root of the word SCIENCE is SÉANCE, meaning it's a black art and can't be trusted? Now you do!
The US still has oil in various places, but we should buy it from other countries whenever possible and leave ours in the ground until the end. Whoever runs out last will be the winner.
@EightiethRocket it currently takes more energy derive hydrogen into a useable fuel than it can provide. and transportation is just one piece. everything we use today is created from petroleum. houses, cars, computers, agriculture, there isn't a single thing in this modern world that isn't dependent on this resource.
1. Mind. The human brain need time and energy to adapt. Plan.
2. Meat. Eat meat every second day instead of every day.
3. Money. Put the money into something safer than the bank.
Remember these 3: Mind, Meat & Money. Together they give best effect for you and for the world with least possible energy, avoiding violence, without breaking any law and more fair than any government can handle. It costs you nothing, but you don't get it free.
funny guy:"I am sure we are talking here of decades.." "we dont belive we are (hitting the peak) in 2030.." hello!!! it was 2006!!! wakey wakey, hands off snakey... moron
@SmashMacintosh six month supply tops. AND drilling in the US doesn't mean the supply stays in the US. read up on big oil in nigeria and you'll get a sense of what i'm talking about.
A shortage of oil is not the problem. WAAAAY too many people is the problem. The earth can't sustain 8 billion people! The world simply must find a way to humanely shed about 5 billion unneeded people in the next few decades, that's all. All we have to do is limit the number of babies a woman can drop based on her income (since we often don't know who the daddy is) and the problem will go away in a single generation. It is either that or have a world nuke war. Sad but true.
@coochie2u It won't be over in a generation because killing babies won't kill parents and grandparents, instead they'll grow old into an unimaginable aging population crisis thirty years down the line. You'll have to be a bit messier than that.
No, if the various world governments had a choice post-PO they would use viruses and biological weapons against "undesirable" and "unnecessary" civilian populations. When the "greater good" is your public motive then you could get away with anything.
We humans are like cancer cells, we just take and take until there is nothing left, like a drug addict that just can't stop taking the heroin even thoug he knows it's going to kill him. Oil is heroin for politicans
@Vallas92 sounds more like your describing parasites to me :P either way, the shits gonna hit the fan with this whole oil crysis, combine that with globalization and the situation with the middle east, it could end VERRY bad for the whole world...
Isn't it irony how we would soon be going back to swords and arrows to fight wars? When oil peaks and begins to decline we're going to witness alot of wars with countries fighting for the remainder. Humans adapt but that sort of transition would be madness. Chaos and starvation, fiat currency would be worthless and the head of sheep would probably be the most valuable. The end of the world as we know it.
right now they just jigglin it... workin it, stretching our asses getting us used to 4 buck a gallon oil... soon they gonna ram it up hard and we'll be at 150 brrl or 5 + bucks a gallon.. and we'll be squealin'...
@mphello you sould just like a kid. You need platinum of solar. You know how much that costs? and wind is very unreliable and not to mention expensive.
get your head out of your ass. If you think we could have went solar and wind, dont you think we would have done so by now?
Oil needs to be saved for things for which no substitution exists: pharmaceuticals and over-sea travel.
That is why gas-powered cars should have been outlawed 20+ years ago. We've known about finite oil since we first drilled. They would have been, had stupid Americans elected a true patriotic hero like Ralph Nader and Greens.
Only electric cars should be built. That requires giving up long-ranges and requires a plug-in infrastructure.
WTF do you need to waste money on guns and ammunition for?
I'm all for guns, if you use them to free prisoners, to blow the brains out of prison guards anywhere in the world. But, unless you've got a specific purpose for them, what a waste of money.
Amazingly and hypocritically, peak-oil deniers are also anthropogenic global warming (AGW) deniers. The only reason one could possibly be an AGW-denier is if one believes there isn't enough oil and coal in the ground to burn to make the AGW predictions come true (and ignoring increased GW due to past CO2 even if all emissions stopped now). Yet, the peak-fossil-fuel deniers also deny the proven fact of AGW, too.
This is without considering the untapped vast reserves of the Arctic, Falklands and Gulf of Mexico, not to mention the biggest find on US soil ever (in Alaska) in recent years. Many old oil fields are self-replenishing from upwelling from deeper down. Despite what the oil companies would have you believe through the media they control (to keep prices at a premium), we are not about to run out of oil, not in your life time anyway. Google peak oil myth for more links.
Azerbaijan. This tiny country has larger oil and natural gas reserves than any other on earth, most below its portion of the Caspian Sea. The neighbouring states hold plenty too, its estimated that roughly 15 billion barrels of oil and about 9 trillion cubic meters of natural gas lie beneath the soil of Afghanistan's neighbours, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan. Peak oil is a myth to keep prices high.
@mphello are you retarded? how is peak oil like sending my child into a desert anything like our situation. If you are in charge of a country that is completely built on oil..... tell me WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU WANT TO GET OFF IT? ok turn your entire country into a laughing stock.
My point is, this is a capitalistic society..... until oil starts becoming unprofitable we'll have to deal with it...... fucking dumbass why dont you open up a book or something educational
@Willsturd Then why the fuck should anyone (rightfully or wrongfully) want to get off welfare if they can continue to be on it, since it's to their advantage? That would make them a laughingstock.
Load of bullshit that solar power somehow "subtracts" or "competes" with agriculture. What about all those oil-drilling wells? And gas fractionating?
Those all compete for land. But unlike wind and solar, they leave the land toxic.
Solar power reduces global warming. Burning natural gas, coal, and oil increase global warming which reduces plant yield overall. Crops across the planet are already dying.
were in shit....better start drilling in n.dakota... hell it shot-up 5 cents in 1 fucking night here in ontario, canada... '' MAD MAX HERE WE COME. ''.. wait til we start hijacking fuel trucks, on the highway .that will b coming soon. because more gas station r now pre-pay..so what choice r u going 2 hav.
Sell you car, sell your investments, sell your apartment. buy a farm next to a lake, buy a gun, and buy ammunition. you don't have to be the fastest, just faster than the next guy. I'm ready for the transition.
The western infidels will perish due to their dependance on oil and then Islam will step in to fill the void.
The world will be a desert by that stage and lets face it most Muslims are quite adept to living in the desert with their donkeys and mules for transport.
The government subsidized the roadways. The automobile companies ripped out the trolley lines. The establishment has dug its own grave. One can almost beleive the conspiracy theories about plans to forcibly reduce human population. Maybe it was all stupidity?
Fat greedy american's, completely ignorant. Moaning about the cost to fill up a jet ski! A fucking jet ski for god sake like they need it to go to work! When will people realise the human race are not the be all and end all, you can't have your cake and eat it!
@mattcreese88 Amen! Bravo! I cheer when a bunch of fuckhead American soldiers get blown up and killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. They LOVE that. And they try to use the excuse that I somehow "owe" them just because American soldiers in WWII and WWI fought for my freedom. Completely different reasons for war. That's like saying I owe every black person alive now (I'm white) because I owe black people in the past for slavery (which I do).
That's because conservatards don't have the mental...
@mphello .. mental capacity to comprehend the order of magnitudes of things.
If some schoolteacher looks the wrong way at a student or makes some kind of creepy sexual remark, to Republicrats and Demopubs, that is a billion times worse than being able to light your faucet on fire due to gas fractionating or hundreds of square miles evacuated due to fucking nuclear power plant accidents.
Dick Chaney said World Wide peak oil would happen in 2010. Get ready we are heading for another stock market crash. In 2008 when the market crashed, oil was $147 a barrel. It is now over $100 a barrel and climbing. Get ready for the market to crash again this summer when gas hits $4.00 a gallon and $140-$150 a barrel. This is going to crash the markets again. I am always amazed at how stupid my country mean are. They actually we have place let to drill in this country to make a difference.
@jrwilson98 4.00$ a gallon? Thats cheap dude in holland we pay now fucking €1.59 for a liter Thats about 2.10$ for a fucking litre!!! Be glad man in your country you can drive, here in holland we can,t If we all had big cars the highways will stand still for ever. I suggest the only way we could get the balance back is a world liter/gallonprice of €1,20 per liter and 80/90 eurocenst for diesel. We don,t need a big car to go to work are we?
Sad what they do to that community garden in LA ,beyond words the bile rises when I think of how evil these comp/corp. are and greedy . And the police that helped them,SHAME!
Fossil fuels are a finite resource. We use a billion or so barrels every twelve days or so. Do you realize how much this is? Concentional oil production has already peaked. Hydrogen is not an energy SOURCE, it takes energy to make.
Fossil fuels are only going to get more expensive. As a result of cost and scarcity of oil and other resources you will see a significant reduction of population this century. And our lifestyles in the west will become much less affluient and easy.
I refuse to watch this BULLSHIT video made to spread fear. There's many alternatives to gasoline, but the oil companies don't want you to know that because they'll go out of business. Hydrogen is the future. Remember this.
Peak Oil doesn't account for suppressed findings. The US knew Iraq had twice as much oil as Saudi Arabia years before the news caught on. That's why 9/11 was allowed to happen.
The problem isn't oil. The problem is free marketing. Economy is based on scarcity, which means that you can only make a profit out of something that is limited. Oil has a price because it is limtited and one day it is going to run out. Therfore it's pointles in a profit based society to produce renewable energy if it was to exist in abundance. In other words the society we live in today will always colapse upon itself in spirals untill we kill each other off as we din in world war I and II.
Even renewable energy sources cost money, demand maintenance and need to be operated so even in renewable options there still remains economic marketing.
and what for 300 years, people think that cities and cars will be doing the same thing for a man that's a lot of time but overall it's just a jiffy, eventually something breaks down, and our generation will pay for it. Now we have all used cars are not going anymore, try to imagine how you go out into the streets and did not hear the sound of the engine, so far only movies such scenes took place. ;]
Bring it on! It's gonna hurt when Mama brings out her broom and starts sweeping us out with the rest of the trash we've insulted her with, chief item among it being petroleum. We can either sit here wringing our hands in our "victimhood," or we can respond proactively to this overdue challenge by learning how to garden organically, and VOLUNTARILY reducing our own "dependence" on this vile substance by getting rid of that damn gas-sucking car you're so addicted to. There's your first assignment.
We live in a liquid fuels economy and no other liquid fuel has the gift, power and portabiity of oil. Renewable energy systems aren't liquid fuels to run the economy. I live in one of the few Net-Zero solar powered homes that uses no oil or gas and I even admit that this isn't a solution. We need to change the way we live and most people won't unless forced to......
@MrEnergyCzar The problem is not whether you have a solar/wind powered house or not. Most of the energy you spend is in transportation. Without oil you don't have cars/plains/boats. Distribution of goods becomes almost impossible. THAT's where the peak oil strikes the most. Electric power will always exist, just build 10 or more nuclear plants and you're done. Now planes?? You can't fly a plain without kerosene! Electric cars are an utopia.
@cptnblackbeard NIKOLA TESLA could have saved us from this 100 yrs ago! please look it up, he created a wireless energy system that allowed energy to be obtained anywhere on earth! i put up info on my youtube and i demostrate a 20 ft wireless transmission to prove that the system works! we could build it right away and get off of this oil dependence, you can run cars wirelessly. please read tesla's "increasing human energy" it tells u real clean energy
@MrEnergyCzar Abiogenic petroleum origin proposes that petroleum is not a fossil fuel
French chemist and thermodynamicist Louis Joseph Gay-Lussac, who enunciated the proposition that oil is a primordial material erupted from great depth, and is unconnected with any biological matter near the surface of the Earth.
@MrEnergyCzar I AGREE ENERGY CZAR.........WE ARE HEADED FOR UNCHARTED WATERS.......
THE WORLD IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS OR DECADES WILL SHOCK US......I PUMPED GASOLINE IN 1965 AT 23 CENTS PER GALLON FOR REGULAR WHEN FACTORY WORKERS WERE MAKING $ 3.50 PER GALLON.......THEY WORKED ONE HOUR FOR A TANK OF GAS ! AND THESE WERE CUBAN REFUGEES WHO SPOKE ZERO ENGLISH ! ! ! OUR GREAT UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS NO MORE......
MY GOD, WHAT A RICH NATION WE HAD ! ! ! SIERRA CUBAN
@MrEnergyCzar there is a way to battle the oil crisis. 50% of all America's electricity is lost throught the transportation through the wires. a year ago the figured how to make liquid nitrogen cheaper than beer. Now if we can make it efficient enought, we can have super conductors replace all the wiring in america... chill it and just like that we have double electricity in america
This will happen sooner or later but its going to be hard use it to combat the oil crisis
@Willsturd all types of alternative energy sources even renewable and nuclear energy rely heavily on oil as the basis to their foundation and also to maintain it trough ought its life cycle, there is nothing in this world which can substitute oil in any way.
@37712 there will be a way to substitute oil. If you trust in human ingenuity then we will find a way to replace petroleum with hydrogen and so forth and so forth
it will take a long time and the world will indefinitely go through turmoil but we will find a way to deal without oil
@Willsturd Glad you are optimistic. Of course, that still does not change the fact that we absolutely must get off oil in all ways possible as fast as possible right now in order to transition as painlessly to a post-oil world and to reduce the worst effects of global warming.
@mphello why would you want to get off oil? Oil is the most profitable resource on this planet. Its cheap, it burns, and it makes plastics. Yes we are destined for a huge fall with us being super dependent on oil but guess what. We are a capitalistic society. Getting off oil right now is everything we stand against. If you want to get off oil then you can but the rest of the world will stay on.... even if it means global warming
@Willsturd You just answered your own question with the third sentence following it.
You obviously advocate aggressive stupidity. Getting off oil is everything YOU stand against: sanity, making the transitions now while we can before we get into life-threatening disaster. Clearly, you would send your own child out into the desert without any water and no way of returning within a day's time, because that would be the sane thing to do. Others should not be forced to pay for your stupidity.
@Willsturd And we need to get off coal right now to reduce global warming and outlaw gas-cars. There is no excuse for coal-generated electricity when we have solar and wind.
And we must restructure our economic society, so people don't have to commute ridiculous distances to do stupid idiotic unnecessary jobs like Wall Street or the NSA.
And if some know-nothing alarmist thinks that harms the economy, then some miraculous unnamed future human ingenuity will save us.
I would prefer we start to dedicate many barrels of oil to create huge stockpiles of solar panels. It will take a lot of hydrocarbon energy to create a large solar base stock where actual manufacturing of solar stocks can start to become self sufficient using solar power as the energy source. Better use of taxes than what we are currently doing in my opinion.
No matter what we invest, the oil bubble is burst. All easy oil extraction in done, future oil extraction will be ever higher in the price of energy expended to extract it. The average person will not be able to afford it since government will deem it "strategic". Then what? Chaos will begin as food disappears, what else is there? Woe to the peoples on the earth, that's for sure.
Let's not forget what oil is. Oil is the "economy". Not gold, nor money, nor any other products of our era.Oil is the basis of all modern society is, there is no substitute, everything we make, all our food, nearly EVERYTHING! The world is propped up by oil. As oil production falls the worlds economies must necessarily crash. Most people have no idea what is coming and our leaders don't want us to know.
@bolshevikML Peak sun power? The sun produces enough power on Earth in one day to supply us with energy for an entire year. If we developed the technology, which certainly could exist according to the guy who invented the semi-conductor, we'd be doing much better. Lower demand, use electric cars (which are banned in the US by oil companies) and use energy more wisely. The sun's power isn't shaped like a bell curve. It's not going anywhere anytime in the next few billion years. Oil is limited.
you might have noticed PLANTS already use it. Biological life is essentially solar powered already (asside from the chemosynthesizers which are geothermal i guess).
Solar Power competes with land for agriculture e.g. do you irrigate an area to grow more food, or power machines.
At present fossil-fuels multiply food yields (pesticides, fertilizers, irrigation) wheras solar will subtract.
@TheCIAsucks Yes, but I fear our development of solar technology is so far lacking that the human population catastrophe is inevitable. It will take a huge investment in both petroleum energy and time to even get somewhat started making large scale solar energy which can have an actual impact on large population regions.. Not impossible perhaps, but it will be greatly hampered by governments and greed. Look for big resource based wars in the near future.
@TheCIAsucks It would be wonderful if humans would develop solar power with the sense of urgency which peak oil is now demanding. All I see America doing is running around the world in resource wars while failing to mount the sort of moon landing/manhattan project mentality a project of this magnitude will require. We are the most wasteful users of energy having sucked our home country dry and now we expect the rest of the world to act any differently. Either we lead or we suffer.
We can make crude oil out of algae for plastic products and fertilizers. Of course, it won't be the same with this oil in quantity. Future transportation can be based with energy from coal, solar or wind. You shouldn't really worry about the fate of HUMANITY, only if this energy will be cheap or not.
@Woka53 It's only because this energy is cheap that 6 billion lives can be sustained. When it gets expensive, 4 billion or so will either die quietly, or, given that we're all armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons... Nah, you're right, shouldn't really worry about the fate of HUMANITY. (Rolling eyes)
@CosmicDamian Who told you that all humans use oil? Only the half of the human population consume any oil to satisfy their needs. And the ways we can isolate energy from our environment are enough to provide energy for even more people than today (geothermal, solar, wind, hydroelectic, shale gas, fusion in 30-40 years etc). And the oil is not going to get really expensive (probably) because of other forms or energy (that will make oil not the only option for energy) and biofuels-algae.
@Woka53 Oh, so the 3 billion that don't "use" oil, all their food comes from ox power? Hunting and gathering? You're new to this analysis, I can tell. The world population in 1800 was about 1 billion people. That's all you get without oil, not 3 billion. The other options you mention, besides being completely impossible to build without oil (are you going to build a hydroelectric power plant with... steam engines?), represent a fraction of what oil provides.
@Woka53 As for algae, consider this - global petroleum reserves represent the sequestered energy of MILLIONS of years of vegetation all over the globe. We've used HALF of those btu's in 100 years. So you're proposing we replace it with the energy from a year's worth of pond scum? You should check out the movie "A Crude Awakening". It's on Netflix.
humanity will survive but most individuals will not. Future population = 2billion absolute max, most living middle-ages peasant lifestyle, high tech & modern comforts for small elite only.
@walter0bz I too think there'll be a population crash. In 1900 the global population stood at 1 billion, today just 110 years later we stand at 7 billion. Sustainable population post cheap oil is 2 billion. That means 5 billion will die through war, famine, disease. It's as simple as that. People can deny reality all they want, but it's going to happen.
and sadly [1] its not a message people want to hear, so it doesn't propogate well, and [2] the people resistant to understanding this will form the next generation.
@walter0bz Then it's a simple conclusion......billions of people will die. The question is over what period of time and under what circumstances will this play out. I don't feel sad about it either. I feel quite humbled to think that we are part of the eco system and not seperate from it. Without death there is no life. We're lucky to have experienced this period which will prove to be our most productive in history.
The frustrating fact is that with awareness, it would be avoidable. I'm convinced that a global one child policy would help us preserve our civilization. The fossil-fuels freed up from subsistence could go into fusion or space colonization efforts.
@walter0bz Think about it. When the economy deleverages because the fiat fractional reserve ponzi scam dependant on exponential economic growth collapses along with socialism, then this will have the same impact as a one child policy similar to that of China. I promise you, when people start to struggle to feed themselves, the last thing they'll do is have kids, if they do then tough.
>>"when people start to struggle to feed themselves, the last thing they'll do is have kids, if they do then tough"
-I hope so.. sadly we also get the opposite. The instinct is to breed more so that some will survive adversity (R-strategist)
People also rationalize these instincts: "there are enough resources, its just the rich hoard them all". or "there are enough resources, its just socialists mismanage them". "we need more taxpayers!" "more people help solve the problems!"
@missrosetejano Its called collapse by Michael Ruppert and its an amazing doc...the world has no idea what its in for - 2/3's of the worlds population will starve to death - we all need to start learning how to farm our own food or die
@matchbox555 Energy efficiency will only make oil cheaper. This will only contribute to faster depletion. If you understand what finite means, it shouldn't be too hard to think it through.
I still have longterm investments just incase. 10% chance they'll be usefull. In the opposite case where they're not usefull, there's not a lot you can do about it. survival will be for military-industrial complex elite only, maybe even social inversion e.g. if you grew up in wartorn somalia, you're more likely to have required survival skills.
This is what they want is it not? Otherwise the oil companies wouldn't have bought up every patent on alternative technologies to the internal cumbustion gas engine for the last 100 years.
chico280 1 week ago in playlist Peak Oil ?!
oil will run out by 2057. Last time then we will witness the closure of an oil field. Peak is in past time. Within 5-8 years we shall realise
symmetry08 2 months ago
People wake up if we use our raw materials faster than it can be replenish it's only a matter of time and we are talking about fossil fuel here, which species would be around to dig us up as fossil fuel.
Zim8oo 2 months ago
Ohh who didnt see this comming ..... Over seas and the islands been paying WAY more than us than we are now..... they been paying $8.00 a gal 10 yrs. ago.
BOO HOO people ! learn to WALK !
DoktorRick 2 months ago
@DoktorRick
Over 8$ a gal is also a big reason why on average a person in Europe uses less then half the ammount of oil per year then a person in the US does.
And quality of life surely isnt better in the US.
Clausewitzz 1 month ago
@Clausewitzz Very True ! they fog our brains with WAL-MART and Mc Donalds to make us think it is Paradise here , things will level out ... Just wait !
DoktorRick 1 month ago
@Clausewitzz you have to think about Europe is much smaller than North America. In Europe, cities are much more condensed together. most cars in Europe are smaller but they don't have to drive much because their transportation is sufficient. Here, everywhere is far apart so we have to drive longer. it is just not sufficient. you know that the entire European continent can fit in to North America. These are just some of the reasons that European consumption of oil is lower.
98770 3 weeks ago
FUCK YEAH MAD MAX BRING IT ON BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Antiks72 3 months ago
aaron from US peak oik message board = fuckwit.
bunch of fuckwits.
JustSomePerson888 3 months ago
We all gona die )))
REally
HolocaustJoker 3 months ago
Peak oil occurred in 2006 ... that is the year that we pumped more oil than we will ever pump again.
bustermk2 3 months ago
Aussieperth2011- As the bronze age is our Plastic age humanity is a curse and will by it's own or anothers hand be ajusted - humanity is a body within another body-called universe infecting our worlds can not be allowed- each is DNA and worlds change is the next birth.
AussiePerth2011 3 months ago
@AussiePerth2011 Don't condemn all of humanity for the disasters caused by a small group of humanity in a small part of its history. All of our problems can be traced back to the industrial revolution, which was forced on people by rapacious, pathological organizations which wanted power OVER nature. The natives lived in cyclical equilibrium with the wilderness for thousands of years and had true happiness in power THROUGH nature.
gracer99 3 months ago
@gracer99 - exactly, you're so right. the industrial revolution/s ruined life on this planet, making it hell.
JustSomePerson888 3 months ago
I made videos to show people how my family prepared for Peak Oil...
MrEnergyCzar 4 months ago 6
@soullife9, Republicans are real, not a stereotype so I don't get your question. And yes I am one.
HorseCents 4 months ago
@soullife9 -
industrial revolution steam/oil - mistake in my language: I frequently write Oil when I really mean Fossil-Fuels: coal,oil,natural gas. oil is the prominent one. coal of course has similar properties as an "energy lottery win"
walter0bz 4 months ago
@soullife9 -
i'm sure we can use the oil more effieciently, doesn't change the fact that sustainable use is ZERO. A lasting civilization cannot use any finite resources at all - period. Some smart people begun to make these observations a while back and put up the Georgia Guidestones... Some think we're going back to the C18th. Others point out that back then we had larger forests, higher quality soil, high water tables and easy to access minerals, all gone now - its' back to the stone age!
walter0bz 4 months ago
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@soullife9
>>"we wouldn't be in the middle east, but who cares about it?"
you can't sustain your way of life without oil, thats why you're in the middle east. no oil , no cars etc. no modern age. to build a renewable civilization you have to rewind all the way back to 1750 (world pop: 800m) and run some alternate history.. tell james watt, "dont do it", stick with windmillss etc and see how far you get. What material choices are viable ? what population can you support at each step?
walter0bz 4 months ago
@soullife9
>>"we wouldn't be in the middle east, but who cares about it?"
you can't sustain your way of life without oil, thats why you're in the middle east. no oil , no cars etc. no modern age. to build a renewable civilization you have to rewind all the way back to 1750 (world pop: 800m) and run some alternate history.. tell james watt, "dont do it", stick with windmillss etc and see how far you get. What material choices are viable ? what population can you support at each step?
walter0bz 4 months ago
@walter0bz and we shouldn't be repulsed at the idea of going back to the stone age. The ecosystem will finally be able to heal itself, we will have genuine freedom, and true human fulfillment. Civilization is an unnecessary evil and the industrial revolution has been a disaster for the human race.
gracer99 3 months ago
@soullife9 -
Nuke plants are usefull to support our Overpopulation (essential even) but not viable for longterm human civilization because Urainium is also finite. The difference with the Sun is it is a "fixed energy income" that we can't choose to overspend. of course it will also run out but through no fault of our own, and not on our timescales.
walter0bz 4 months ago
@soullife9 -
"nuke plants.. don't work out financially" - nothing can compete with hydrocarbons - while they flow they provide superior energy - they are ready made. its like a farmer discovering 1000 years worth of ready-meals and finding he can't compete with those as a food provider. But also, nuke plants [1] were side effect of weapons [2] take lots of oil-powered tech to extract mineral ores, construct the plants themselves.. nuke plants do not create their own self-sustaining economy.[more
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@soullife9
>>"No one wants to go to hydroponics because neither they or the government wants to sink the money"
.... then another country will figure it out. If you dont need oil input, you dont need much money to start hydroponics. That is.. unless its dependant on lots of oil constructed technology and materials like glass, artificial nutrients, plastic containers, pumping water around...
walter0bz 4 months ago
@soullife9
>>"We also figured out how to live without oil for millennium. "
- No we did not. Before the industrial revolution earths population was stable in measured in 100's of millions for millenia. The extra "energy lottery win" of fossil fuels (channeled through "technology") allowed ~10X the number to live.. white they are flowing, temporarily.
walter0bz 4 months ago
@soullife9
>>"do you want to use oil or not?"
- I will clarify: Without oil, earth can support 2billion people. Oil allowed 6billion to live.To stop using oil, we need to get the population down to that level. Right now, we dont have a choice but to use fossil fuels. If we restrict births, the next generation can live using renewables. My practical suggestion is to restrict breeding to non-fossil-fuel users. They can have as many as they can renewably support.
walter0bz 4 months ago
@soullife9 -
"no one wants to invest..." - so, nature does what it does with solar power and waste materials, and water. To "make renewable tech" all you need is the waste we create, some unused land (unused by petro civilization), and perhaps water. you only need $ to buy the products of oil (e.g. metals extracted by oil, machines made & powered by oil). Which are inherently non-renewable, they'd be "cheating" if you want to know what a renewable civilization looks like.
walter0bz 4 months ago
@soullife9 - but where did the money come from? Money (when its' working right) is a symbol for energy. Oil became ubiquitous (when renewables were already availalble, e.g. sailing ships, windmills, and solar via biomass) because it was a 'lottery win'.
'mimickery/nature' - nature is already solar-powered, recycling, nano-machines.. its 'technology' is way more complex than anything we've engineered. Renewables wont build the civ we're used to. They can build/power themselves without petro-$
walter0bz 4 months ago
@soullife9 -
what % of the our world is down to human ingenuity and what part is from energy boost of oil? - to get an idea, compare complexity of our tech to the natural systems (biology). Our technology is **no where near** organic life in "engineering prowess". e.g. full consciousness generated by a 20 watt organic computer, self-replicating nano-machines that recycle everything...vs crude human technology that only looks good with millions of years worth of dead algae to burn
walter0bz 4 months ago
@soullife9 LMAO. plasma rockets but whats the energy source? i dont know the proposed tech but unless its a nuclear power source forget it. Here on earth, people are proposing Hydrogen as storage of renewable energy so I can't see rockets using something other than hydrogen fuel either.
CROP ROTATION!? we figured that out long ago. I dont doubt we'll figure out new techniques, but nothing will match the energy boost of oil.
walter0bz 4 months ago
@soullife9 -
orbiting solar stations = very far fetched. without oil we wont be making many space launches..
its' fusion or back to the stone age.
hydroponics doesn't sound like much new, haven't people been shifting water around to grow crops for thousands of years ?
walter0bz 4 months ago
i have a lot of cow bones what can u guys do for me?
jumba4u 4 months ago
@soullife9 I'm implying that our growth based cheap oil addicted economy has hit its peak. We can drill on the moon, the arctic or anywhere else but cheap oil reached its peak so now we have to change the whole system and people won't unless the whole thing collapses.....existing well's decline rates or 2-8% are the real peak oil issue.....
MrEnergyCzar 4 months ago
The solution to Peak Oil is obvious.As luck would have it this crisis has befallen us at a time when the USA is the world's sole super power.The solution=Brute military force.Of Course,a way to get the people 'on board' with the needed war would have to be found.I suggest a big 'terrorist' attack.Made for TV,dramatic! Explosion,flames etc.A few thousand dead.Pin it on Muslims & the people would beg for the needed wars or Did someone think of that already?
waitew 4 months ago
They try to make these documentaries sound stern and legit by using narrators with British accents. It's an old liberal trick so don't be fooled by it. Same goes for all that Attenborough save the wildlife stuff. It's all foppy smoke and mirrors.
HorseCents 5 months ago
@HorseCents I call it Colonial inferiority complex.Deep in the psyche of all former British colonies: (America & the Commonwealth Nations) is buried the notion that citizens of the mother country are innately superior.It's isn't true,of course,but it's burned in deep & we can't seem to shake it.It's why Hollywood uses people like Simon whatshisname & Piers Morgan & that horrible woman from 'Weakest link' here in America.It's somehow more cutting to be berated if their British.
waitew 4 months ago
@waitew, the Brits have bad teeth and they cover all their hot women in dowdy hoop dresses, except for that Pippa broad, but I don't like her face so much and she's top-light. But she has a bottom on her, that one.
HorseCents 4 months ago
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Typical Godless liberal fear-mongering scarcity propaganda.
When God created the Earth He made certain that Man would have enough energy to last until The Rapture. Harold Camping had the date all wrong but the principle is sound.
Did you know that the root of the word SCIENCE is SÉANCE, meaning it's a black art and can't be trusted? Now you do!
HorseCents 5 months ago
Search "Sparxism" into YouTube for my solution to peak oil...start a movement.
simmyjaye 5 months ago
The US still has oil in various places, but we should buy it from other countries whenever possible and leave ours in the ground until the end. Whoever runs out last will be the winner.
augieaugie2 5 months ago
I don't mean to be a smart-ass, but why can't we just replace our oil needs with hydrogen?
EightiethRocket 6 months ago
@EightiethRocket it currently takes more energy derive hydrogen into a useable fuel than it can provide. and transportation is just one piece. everything we use today is created from petroleum. houses, cars, computers, agriculture, there isn't a single thing in this modern world that isn't dependent on this resource.
roshi98 5 months ago
There are 3 things everybody can do:
1. Mind. The human brain need time and energy to adapt. Plan.
2. Meat. Eat meat every second day instead of every day.
3. Money. Put the money into something safer than the bank.
Remember these 3: Mind, Meat & Money. Together they give best effect for you and for the world with least possible energy, avoiding violence, without breaking any law and more fair than any government can handle. It costs you nothing, but you don't get it free.
bvssvni 6 months ago
funny guy:"I am sure we are talking here of decades.." "we dont belive we are (hitting the peak) in 2030.." hello!!! it was 2006!!! wakey wakey, hands off snakey... moron
MrKovlad 6 months ago
we've already depleated us of gas, why do you think we import it? duh?
lyndonstein2 7 months ago
I think we should start drilling in the US like ANWR and start using natural gas
SmashMacintosh 7 months ago
@SmashMacintosh six month supply tops. AND drilling in the US doesn't mean the supply stays in the US. read up on big oil in nigeria and you'll get a sense of what i'm talking about.
roshi98 5 months ago
A shortage of oil is not the problem. WAAAAY too many people is the problem. The earth can't sustain 8 billion people! The world simply must find a way to humanely shed about 5 billion unneeded people in the next few decades, that's all. All we have to do is limit the number of babies a woman can drop based on her income (since we often don't know who the daddy is) and the problem will go away in a single generation. It is either that or have a world nuke war. Sad but true.
coochie2u 7 months ago
@coochie2u It won't be over in a generation because killing babies won't kill parents and grandparents, instead they'll grow old into an unimaginable aging population crisis thirty years down the line. You'll have to be a bit messier than that.
No, if the various world governments had a choice post-PO they would use viruses and biological weapons against "undesirable" and "unnecessary" civilian populations. When the "greater good" is your public motive then you could get away with anything.
Standuble 6 months ago
This was realeased in 2008 and I like how they belived that 50 USD a barell is was as high as it would get. Today a barrell costs over 100 dollars.
TheStokeholm 7 months ago
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bolognadetector 6 months ago
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@TheStokeholm A report came out this week (July 2011) predicting that the price of oil will reach $150 a barrel by Spring of 2012.
bolognadetector 6 months ago
We humans are like cancer cells, we just take and take until there is nothing left, like a drug addict that just can't stop taking the heroin even thoug he knows it's going to kill him. Oil is heroin for politicans
Vallas92 7 months ago
@Vallas92 sounds more like your describing parasites to me :P either way, the shits gonna hit the fan with this whole oil crysis, combine that with globalization and the situation with the middle east, it could end VERRY bad for the whole world...
maxb8097 7 months ago
Isn't it irony how we would soon be going back to swords and arrows to fight wars? When oil peaks and begins to decline we're going to witness alot of wars with countries fighting for the remainder. Humans adapt but that sort of transition would be madness. Chaos and starvation, fiat currency would be worthless and the head of sheep would probably be the most valuable. The end of the world as we know it.
lifendsoon 7 months ago
right now they just jigglin it... workin it, stretching our asses getting us used to 4 buck a gallon oil... soon they gonna ram it up hard and we'll be at 150 brrl or 5 + bucks a gallon.. and we'll be squealin'...
watchersx 8 months ago
WE ARE FUCKED
SuperGrinder2 8 months ago
@mphello you sould just like a kid. You need platinum of solar. You know how much that costs? and wind is very unreliable and not to mention expensive.
get your head out of your ass. If you think we could have went solar and wind, dont you think we would have done so by now?
Willsturd 8 months ago
Oil needs to be saved for things for which no substitution exists: pharmaceuticals and over-sea travel.
That is why gas-powered cars should have been outlawed 20+ years ago. We've known about finite oil since we first drilled. They would have been, had stupid Americans elected a true patriotic hero like Ralph Nader and Greens.
Only electric cars should be built. That requires giving up long-ranges and requires a plug-in infrastructure.
mphello 8 months ago
WTF do you need to waste money on guns and ammunition for?
I'm all for guns, if you use them to free prisoners, to blow the brains out of prison guards anywhere in the world. But, unless you've got a specific purpose for them, what a waste of money.
mphello 8 months ago
Amazingly and hypocritically, peak-oil deniers are also anthropogenic global warming (AGW) deniers. The only reason one could possibly be an AGW-denier is if one believes there isn't enough oil and coal in the ground to burn to make the AGW predictions come true (and ignoring increased GW due to past CO2 even if all emissions stopped now). Yet, the peak-fossil-fuel deniers also deny the proven fact of AGW, too.
mphello 8 months ago
Yeah, lets drill in the US and frack the hell out of the place so you and your bro can drive your jetski around.
AndrewNCook 8 months ago
This is without considering the untapped vast reserves of the Arctic, Falklands and Gulf of Mexico, not to mention the biggest find on US soil ever (in Alaska) in recent years. Many old oil fields are self-replenishing from upwelling from deeper down. Despite what the oil companies would have you believe through the media they control (to keep prices at a premium), we are not about to run out of oil, not in your life time anyway. Google peak oil myth for more links.
thegreatauk01 8 months ago
Azerbaijan. This tiny country has larger oil and natural gas reserves than any other on earth, most below its portion of the Caspian Sea. The neighbouring states hold plenty too, its estimated that roughly 15 billion barrels of oil and about 9 trillion cubic meters of natural gas lie beneath the soil of Afghanistan's neighbours, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan. Peak oil is a myth to keep prices high.
thegreatauk01 8 months ago
Peak oil, well lets put it this way. Peak Oil adds another large factor to the Drake Equation, one that earth, coincidentally, does not likely meet.
1981busch 8 months ago
@mphello are you retarded? how is peak oil like sending my child into a desert anything like our situation. If you are in charge of a country that is completely built on oil..... tell me WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU WANT TO GET OFF IT? ok turn your entire country into a laughing stock.
My point is, this is a capitalistic society..... until oil starts becoming unprofitable we'll have to deal with it...... fucking dumbass why dont you open up a book or something educational
Willsturd 9 months ago
@Willsturd Then why the fuck should anyone (rightfully or wrongfully) want to get off welfare if they can continue to be on it, since it's to their advantage? That would make them a laughingstock.
mphello 8 months ago
Thorium Reactors, pass it on.
nagasako7 9 months ago
Load of bullshit that solar power somehow "subtracts" or "competes" with agriculture. What about all those oil-drilling wells? And gas fractionating?
Those all compete for land. But unlike wind and solar, they leave the land toxic.
Solar power reduces global warming. Burning natural gas, coal, and oil increase global warming which reduces plant yield overall. Crops across the planet are already dying.
mphello 9 months ago
Im starting to think oil doesn't exist. Its just a government conspiracy
noctis1 9 months ago
were in shit....better start drilling in n.dakota... hell it shot-up 5 cents in 1 fucking night here in ontario, canada... '' MAD MAX HERE WE COME. ''.. wait til we start hijacking fuel trucks, on the highway .that will b coming soon. because more gas station r now pre-pay..so what choice r u going 2 hav.
chadberry75 9 months ago
Sell you car, sell your investments, sell your apartment. buy a farm next to a lake, buy a gun, and buy ammunition. you don't have to be the fastest, just faster than the next guy. I'm ready for the transition.
Chevy97Shotgun 9 months ago
@Chevy97Shotgun yeah and when we never need to transition you'll look like a dumbass
Willsturd 9 months ago
Pretty soon Oil and Gasoline will be gone and used up!
JDM9616 9 months ago
NYMEX=Cocaine is a helluva drug. What a zoo.
sangolt88 10 months ago
When I was looking on the video and stopped on 3:52 seconds, I thought it was TI because its sppearances are just like TI...
samlim94 10 months ago
@Balenza345 Why dont you use your own oil to speed up your camels and donkeys? The nozzle from your gazoline station fit in their asses just fine
Vainslain 10 months ago
Whore movie
Askaley 11 months ago
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The western infidels will perish due to their dependance on oil and then Islam will step in to fill the void.
The world will be a desert by that stage and lets face it Muslims are quite adept to living in the desert with their donkeys and mules for transport.
Death to the infidels.
Balenza345 11 months ago
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The western infidels will perish due to their dependance on oil and then Islam will step in to fill the void.
The world will be a desert by that stage and lets face it most Muslims are quite adept to living in the desert with their donkeys and mules for transport.
Death to the infidels.
Balenza345 11 months ago
The government subsidized the roadways. The automobile companies ripped out the trolley lines. The establishment has dug its own grave. One can almost beleive the conspiracy theories about plans to forcibly reduce human population. Maybe it was all stupidity?
JasonDamisch 11 months ago
Fat greedy american's, completely ignorant. Moaning about the cost to fill up a jet ski! A fucking jet ski for god sake like they need it to go to work! When will people realise the human race are not the be all and end all, you can't have your cake and eat it!
mattcreese88 11 months ago
@mattcreese88
Blaming everything on Americans won't solve anything.
SgtThom 11 months ago
@mattcreese88 Those americans look pretty fit to me..
aliyans 11 months ago
@mattcreese88 Amen! Bravo! I cheer when a bunch of fuckhead American soldiers get blown up and killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. They LOVE that. And they try to use the excuse that I somehow "owe" them just because American soldiers in WWII and WWI fought for my freedom. Completely different reasons for war. That's like saying I owe every black person alive now (I'm white) because I owe black people in the past for slavery (which I do).
That's because conservatards don't have the mental...
mphello 9 months ago
@mphello .. mental capacity to comprehend the order of magnitudes of things.
If some schoolteacher looks the wrong way at a student or makes some kind of creepy sexual remark, to Republicrats and Demopubs, that is a billion times worse than being able to light your faucet on fire due to gas fractionating or hundreds of square miles evacuated due to fucking nuclear power plant accidents.
Conservaturds do not comprehend consequences.
mphello 9 months ago
Dick Chaney said World Wide peak oil would happen in 2010. Get ready we are heading for another stock market crash. In 2008 when the market crashed, oil was $147 a barrel. It is now over $100 a barrel and climbing. Get ready for the market to crash again this summer when gas hits $4.00 a gallon and $140-$150 a barrel. This is going to crash the markets again. I am always amazed at how stupid my country mean are. They actually we have place let to drill in this country to make a difference.
jrwilson98 11 months ago
@jrwilson98 4.00$ a gallon? Thats cheap dude in holland we pay now fucking €1.59 for a liter Thats about 2.10$ for a fucking litre!!! Be glad man in your country you can drive, here in holland we can,t If we all had big cars the highways will stand still for ever. I suggest the only way we could get the balance back is a world liter/gallonprice of €1,20 per liter and 80/90 eurocenst for diesel. We don,t need a big car to go to work are we?
marlb0r015 10 months ago
FUCK YOU JOURNEYMAN.TV!!
THERE'S NO WAY IN HELL I'LL BUY YOUR SHITTY DOCUMENTARY!
wesdebaltz 11 months ago
The white haired guy talked false before the 1st minute was past. We're not all in very serious trouble if oil markets go bad.
vChipGivesThemSight 11 months ago
@vChipGivesThemSight
That "All not in serious trouble" group is tribal peoples?
SgtThom 11 months ago
@SgtThom Some of them, yes
vChipGivesThemSight 11 months ago
Sad what they do to that community garden in LA ,beyond words the bile rises when I think of how evil these comp/corp. are and greedy . And the police that helped them,SHAME!
katrastrophy 11 months ago
@katrastrophy actually I was referring to "end of suburbia' he he.....dunno how I got here...lol.
katrastrophy 11 months ago
Fossil fuels are a finite resource. We use a billion or so barrels every twelve days or so. Do you realize how much this is? Concentional oil production has already peaked. Hydrogen is not an energy SOURCE, it takes energy to make.
Fossil fuels are only going to get more expensive. As a result of cost and scarcity of oil and other resources you will see a significant reduction of population this century. And our lifestyles in the west will become much less affluient and easy.
moosesteak7 11 months ago
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@moosesteak7 "We use a billion or so barrels every twelve days or so. Do you realize how much this is?"
At most, one 21-millionth of the crust's 2.1+ quadrillion barrels of shale oil?: google. com/search?q=duncan+swanson+oil+2.1+quadrillion
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"Fossil fuels are only going to get more expensive."
Right now, a barrel of light sweet crude from Saudi Arabia costs $2: google. com/search?q=Crop+Circles+in+the+Desert+saudi+oil
At 100 mpg, oil would have to be $4,400/bbl for travel to cost just $1/mile.
hitssquad 11 months ago
I refuse to watch this BULLSHIT video made to spread fear. There's many alternatives to gasoline, but the oil companies don't want you to know that because they'll go out of business. Hydrogen is the future. Remember this.
rsx123 11 months ago
Peak Oil doesn't account for suppressed findings. The US knew Iraq had twice as much oil as Saudi Arabia years before the news caught on. That's why 9/11 was allowed to happen.
brokencountry123 11 months ago
The problem isn't oil. The problem is free marketing. Economy is based on scarcity, which means that you can only make a profit out of something that is limited. Oil has a price because it is limtited and one day it is going to run out. Therfore it's pointles in a profit based society to produce renewable energy if it was to exist in abundance. In other words the society we live in today will always colapse upon itself in spirals untill we kill each other off as we din in world war I and II.
klawida 1 year ago
@klawida
Even renewable energy sources cost money, demand maintenance and need to be operated so even in renewable options there still remains economic marketing.
Clausewitzz 11 months ago
No........I won't buy the DVD thank you very much.
B73879 1 year ago
lol 90p a litre 130 allmost now
kampfdrew 1 year ago
and what for 300 years, people think that cities and cars will be doing the same thing for a man that's a lot of time but overall it's just a jiffy, eventually something breaks down, and our generation will pay for it. Now we have all used cars are not going anymore, try to imagine how you go out into the streets and did not hear the sound of the engine, so far only movies such scenes took place. ;]
secretus3 1 year ago
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Bring it on! It's gonna hurt when Mama brings out her broom and starts sweeping us out with the rest of the trash we've insulted her with, chief item among it being petroleum. We can either sit here wringing our hands in our "victimhood," or we can respond proactively to this overdue challenge by learning how to garden organically, and VOLUNTARILY reducing our own "dependence" on this vile substance by getting rid of that damn gas-sucking car you're so addicted to. There's your first assignment.
Humptydumptytribe 1 year ago
the first ten minutes then buy the dvd? thats real kind of you, need some oil for ya motor kiddo? haha
MrSav720 1 year ago
can't wait for peak oil, if people were less greedy and selfish it'd be a lot longer away than it is
GriefTourist 1 year ago
We live in a liquid fuels economy and no other liquid fuel has the gift, power and portabiity of oil. Renewable energy systems aren't liquid fuels to run the economy. I live in one of the few Net-Zero solar powered homes that uses no oil or gas and I even admit that this isn't a solution. We need to change the way we live and most people won't unless forced to......
MrEnergyCzar 1 year ago 136
@MrEnergyCzar Hemp - Ethanol.
PesiCool 1 year ago
@MrEnergyCzar The problem is not whether you have a solar/wind powered house or not. Most of the energy you spend is in transportation. Without oil you don't have cars/plains/boats. Distribution of goods becomes almost impossible. THAT's where the peak oil strikes the most. Electric power will always exist, just build 10 or more nuclear plants and you're done. Now planes?? You can't fly a plain without kerosene! Electric cars are an utopia.
T0B0KKE 1 year ago
@MrEnergyCzar Exactly. We're soon in for a serious change in the way we live... Most likely, many people will die...
cptnblackbeard 10 months ago
@cptnblackbeard NIKOLA TESLA could have saved us from this 100 yrs ago! please look it up, he created a wireless energy system that allowed energy to be obtained anywhere on earth! i put up info on my youtube and i demostrate a 20 ft wireless transmission to prove that the system works! we could build it right away and get off of this oil dependence, you can run cars wirelessly. please read tesla's "increasing human energy" it tells u real clean energy
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boxa888 10 months ago
@MrEnergyCzar Abiogenic petroleum origin proposes that petroleum is not a fossil fuel
French chemist and thermodynamicist Louis Joseph Gay-Lussac, who enunciated the proposition that oil is a primordial material erupted from great depth, and is unconnected with any biological matter near the surface of the Earth.
mechanicalbu11 10 months ago
@MrEnergyCzar Brilliant comment: We are heading our wall of denial, full speed!
wollin20 10 months ago
@MrEnergyCzar I AGREE ENERGY CZAR.........WE ARE HEADED FOR UNCHARTED WATERS.......
THE WORLD IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS OR DECADES WILL SHOCK US......I PUMPED GASOLINE IN 1965 AT 23 CENTS PER GALLON FOR REGULAR WHEN FACTORY WORKERS WERE MAKING $ 3.50 PER GALLON.......THEY WORKED ONE HOUR FOR A TANK OF GAS ! AND THESE WERE CUBAN REFUGEES WHO SPOKE ZERO ENGLISH ! ! ! OUR GREAT UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS NO MORE......
MY GOD, WHAT A RICH NATION WE HAD ! ! ! SIERRA CUBAN
sierracuban 9 months ago
@MrEnergyCzar there is a way to battle the oil crisis. 50% of all America's electricity is lost throught the transportation through the wires. a year ago the figured how to make liquid nitrogen cheaper than beer. Now if we can make it efficient enought, we can have super conductors replace all the wiring in america... chill it and just like that we have double electricity in america
This will happen sooner or later but its going to be hard use it to combat the oil crisis
Willsturd 9 months ago
@Willsturd all types of alternative energy sources even renewable and nuclear energy rely heavily on oil as the basis to their foundation and also to maintain it trough ought its life cycle, there is nothing in this world which can substitute oil in any way.
37712 9 months ago
@37712 there will be a way to substitute oil. If you trust in human ingenuity then we will find a way to replace petroleum with hydrogen and so forth and so forth
it will take a long time and the world will indefinitely go through turmoil but we will find a way to deal without oil
Willsturd 9 months ago
@Willsturd Glad you are optimistic. Of course, that still does not change the fact that we absolutely must get off oil in all ways possible as fast as possible right now in order to transition as painlessly to a post-oil world and to reduce the worst effects of global warming.
mphello 9 months ago
@mphello why would you want to get off oil? Oil is the most profitable resource on this planet. Its cheap, it burns, and it makes plastics. Yes we are destined for a huge fall with us being super dependent on oil but guess what. We are a capitalistic society. Getting off oil right now is everything we stand against. If you want to get off oil then you can but the rest of the world will stay on.... even if it means global warming
Willsturd 9 months ago
@Willsturd You just answered your own question with the third sentence following it.
You obviously advocate aggressive stupidity. Getting off oil is everything YOU stand against: sanity, making the transitions now while we can before we get into life-threatening disaster. Clearly, you would send your own child out into the desert without any water and no way of returning within a day's time, because that would be the sane thing to do. Others should not be forced to pay for your stupidity.
mphello 9 months ago
@Willsturd And we need to get off coal right now to reduce global warming and outlaw gas-cars. There is no excuse for coal-generated electricity when we have solar and wind.
And we must restructure our economic society, so people don't have to commute ridiculous distances to do stupid idiotic unnecessary jobs like Wall Street or the NSA.
And if some know-nothing alarmist thinks that harms the economy, then some miraculous unnamed future human ingenuity will save us.
mphello 8 months ago
@MrEnergyCzar Why could your home not be a solution if applied on a large scale? Do elaborate.
stellar876 9 months ago
what about some alternatives to oil?
KripDrip 6 months ago
I would prefer we start to dedicate many barrels of oil to create huge stockpiles of solar panels. It will take a lot of hydrocarbon energy to create a large solar base stock where actual manufacturing of solar stocks can start to become self sufficient using solar power as the energy source. Better use of taxes than what we are currently doing in my opinion.
jjstoney1 1 year ago
No matter what we invest, the oil bubble is burst. All easy oil extraction in done, future oil extraction will be ever higher in the price of energy expended to extract it. The average person will not be able to afford it since government will deem it "strategic". Then what? Chaos will begin as food disappears, what else is there? Woe to the peoples on the earth, that's for sure.
MrTAKESINBJS247 1 year ago
Let's not forget what oil is. Oil is the "economy". Not gold, nor money, nor any other products of our era.Oil is the basis of all modern society is, there is no substitute, everything we make, all our food, nearly EVERYTHING! The world is propped up by oil. As oil production falls the worlds economies must necessarily crash. Most people have no idea what is coming and our leaders don't want us to know.
MrTAKESINBJS247 1 year ago
@MrTAKESINBJS247 -
money = symbol for energy
walter0bz 1 year ago
The UK is paying 90p a litre! more like 130p a litre :(
b3gunkid90 1 year ago
Mel Gibson is a bellend....
29Gixxer 1 year ago
There are only a few countries left that can raise oil production and they are in the middle east. Ouch...
MrEnergyCzar 1 year ago
I've been preparing for Peak Oil for 4 years now and made some vids to help people prepare.....
MrEnergyCzar 1 year ago
if the world runs out of oil il stop drinking meths and drink stella
doh1959 1 year ago
coal power --> peak coal
nuclear power --> peak uranium
solar power --> peak sun
slave power --> peak slave
hydropower --> peak water.
All the competitors of oil are plagued by similar problems.
bolshevikML 1 year ago
@bolshevikML Peak sun power? The sun produces enough power on Earth in one day to supply us with energy for an entire year. If we developed the technology, which certainly could exist according to the guy who invented the semi-conductor, we'd be doing much better. Lower demand, use electric cars (which are banned in the US by oil companies) and use energy more wisely. The sun's power isn't shaped like a bell curve. It's not going anywhere anytime in the next few billion years. Oil is limited.
TheCIAsucks 1 year ago
@TheCIAsucks
Peak Sun power:
you might have noticed PLANTS already use it. Biological life is essentially solar powered already (asside from the chemosynthesizers which are geothermal i guess).
Solar Power competes with land for agriculture e.g. do you irrigate an area to grow more food, or power machines.
At present fossil-fuels multiply food yields (pesticides, fertilizers, irrigation) wheras solar will subtract.
walter0bz 1 year ago
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johan3248 1 year ago
@TheCIAsucks Yes, but I fear our development of solar technology is so far lacking that the human population catastrophe is inevitable. It will take a huge investment in both petroleum energy and time to even get somewhat started making large scale solar energy which can have an actual impact on large population regions.. Not impossible perhaps, but it will be greatly hampered by governments and greed. Look for big resource based wars in the near future.
MrTAKESINBJS247 1 year ago
@TheCIAsucks It would be wonderful if humans would develop solar power with the sense of urgency which peak oil is now demanding. All I see America doing is running around the world in resource wars while failing to mount the sort of moon landing/manhattan project mentality a project of this magnitude will require. We are the most wasteful users of energy having sucked our home country dry and now we expect the rest of the world to act any differently. Either we lead or we suffer.
jjstoney1 1 year ago
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missrosetejano 1 year ago
We can make crude oil out of algae for plastic products and fertilizers. Of course, it won't be the same with this oil in quantity. Future transportation can be based with energy from coal, solar or wind. You shouldn't really worry about the fate of HUMANITY, only if this energy will be cheap or not.
Woka53 1 year ago
@Woka53 It's only because this energy is cheap that 6 billion lives can be sustained. When it gets expensive, 4 billion or so will either die quietly, or, given that we're all armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons... Nah, you're right, shouldn't really worry about the fate of HUMANITY. (Rolling eyes)
CosmicDamian 1 year ago
@CosmicDamian Who told you that all humans use oil? Only the half of the human population consume any oil to satisfy their needs. And the ways we can isolate energy from our environment are enough to provide energy for even more people than today (geothermal, solar, wind, hydroelectic, shale gas, fusion in 30-40 years etc). And the oil is not going to get really expensive (probably) because of other forms or energy (that will make oil not the only option for energy) and biofuels-algae.
Woka53 1 year ago
@Woka53 Oh, so the 3 billion that don't "use" oil, all their food comes from ox power? Hunting and gathering? You're new to this analysis, I can tell. The world population in 1800 was about 1 billion people. That's all you get without oil, not 3 billion. The other options you mention, besides being completely impossible to build without oil (are you going to build a hydroelectric power plant with... steam engines?), represent a fraction of what oil provides.
CosmicDamian 1 year ago
@Woka53 As for algae, consider this - global petroleum reserves represent the sequestered energy of MILLIONS of years of vegetation all over the globe. We've used HALF of those btu's in 100 years. So you're proposing we replace it with the energy from a year's worth of pond scum? You should check out the movie "A Crude Awakening". It's on Netflix.
CosmicDamian 1 year ago
@Woka53
anyone living in a country that partakes in global trade uses oil even if indiirectly via trickledown.
Regarding alternatives, how many of these can be developped without using oil based equipment, materials extracted / refined driven by oil etc.
To see renewable infrastructure you have to imagine an alternate history where someone murders James Watt.
fusion always 40 years away
walter0bz 1 year ago
@Woka53 -
future transport = walking &bicycle if lucky.
humanity will survive but most individuals will not. Future population = 2billion absolute max, most living middle-ages peasant lifestyle, high tech & modern comforts for small elite only.
walter0bz 1 year ago
@walter0bz I too think there'll be a population crash. In 1900 the global population stood at 1 billion, today just 110 years later we stand at 7 billion. Sustainable population post cheap oil is 2 billion. That means 5 billion will die through war, famine, disease. It's as simple as that. People can deny reality all they want, but it's going to happen.
Dandaniels1978 1 year ago
@Dandaniels1978 -
and sadly [1] its not a message people want to hear, so it doesn't propogate well, and [2] the people resistant to understanding this will form the next generation.
walter0bz 1 year ago
@walter0bz Then it's a simple conclusion......billions of people will die. The question is over what period of time and under what circumstances will this play out. I don't feel sad about it either. I feel quite humbled to think that we are part of the eco system and not seperate from it. Without death there is no life. We're lucky to have experienced this period which will prove to be our most productive in history.
Dandaniels1978 1 year ago
@Dandaniels1978 -
The frustrating fact is that with awareness, it would be avoidable. I'm convinced that a global one child policy would help us preserve our civilization. The fossil-fuels freed up from subsistence could go into fusion or space colonization efforts.
walter0bz 1 year ago
@walter0bz Think about it. When the economy deleverages because the fiat fractional reserve ponzi scam dependant on exponential economic growth collapses along with socialism, then this will have the same impact as a one child policy similar to that of China. I promise you, when people start to struggle to feed themselves, the last thing they'll do is have kids, if they do then tough.
Dandaniels1978 1 year ago
@Dandaniels1978
>>"when people start to struggle to feed themselves, the last thing they'll do is have kids, if they do then tough"
-I hope so.. sadly we also get the opposite. The instinct is to breed more so that some will survive adversity (R-strategist)
People also rationalize these instincts: "there are enough resources, its just the rich hoard them all". or "there are enough resources, its just socialists mismanage them". "we need more taxpayers!" "more people help solve the problems!"
walter0bz 1 year ago
@Dandaniels1978 -
also, when the money runs out... its usually too late.
walter0bz 1 year ago
I HATE when the video title says 45 mins and after 10 mins they tell me to buy it. >:-(
eeeckful 1 year ago 16
@eeeckful you should get net-flicks they have a similar documentry
missrosetejano 1 year ago
@missrosetejano Its called collapse by Michael Ruppert and its an amazing doc...the world has no idea what its in for - 2/3's of the worlds population will starve to death - we all need to start learning how to farm our own food or die
nkchak 1 year ago
@nkchak There is a link to Avatar with Ruppert's documentary, see my video on Avatar Extended Collector's Edition.
burjreview 1 year ago
@eeeckful not gashole...full documentry
aseireann 8 months ago
@aseireann gashole up in full...
aseireann 8 months ago
hey kids
we don't need oil
nuclear = electricity = hydrogen
now stop worrying kids and finish your homework
matchbox555 1 year ago
@matchbox555
nuclear = peak uranium
nuclear = deadly waste
walter0bz 1 year ago
@walter0bz
peak uranium = never happen the sea is full of uranium
thorium can be used instead anyway
and there is lots of thorium
deadly waste = can easily be dealt with, very small in volume
sorry to disappoint you but civilization will not end
matchbox555 1 year ago
@matchbox555 -
exponential growth makes short work of any initial sized resevoir
>>"sorry to disappoint you but civilization will not end"
sorry, it will.
walter0bz 1 year ago
@walter0bz there isnt exponential growth
production will become more energy efficient
population will fall after 2050
sorry to disappoint you but civilization will not end
you will have to pay your bills
matchbox555 1 year ago
@matchbox555
-"there isnt exponential growth"
there has been.
>>"population will fall after 2050"
- or sooner.
the hard way.
>>"sorry to disappoint you but civilization will not end"
yes, it will.
walter0bz 1 year ago
@walter0bz
YOU FORGOT THAT "production will become more energy efficient"
matchbox555 1 year ago
@matchbox555 -
doesn't matter how efficiently you can use oil.. when there is none I'm quite convinced most modern tech will cease to be viable.
walter0bz 1 year ago
@matchbox555 Energy efficiency will only make oil cheaper. This will only contribute to faster depletion. If you understand what finite means, it shouldn't be too hard to think it through.
bluemamie 1 year ago
@bluemamie yes we all know that oil is finite.. but when oil peaks or 'runs out' civilization will continue
matchbox555 1 year ago
@matchbox555
>>"civilization will continue"
yes, for a small elite. They might even continue to get higher tech.
But most humans will starve or die in wars.
most survivors will be reduced to middle-ages peasant status or stone age
walter0bz 1 year ago
@matchbox555
>>"you will have to pay your bills"
I still have longterm investments just incase. 10% chance they'll be usefull. In the opposite case where they're not usefull, there's not a lot you can do about it. survival will be for military-industrial complex elite only, maybe even social inversion e.g. if you grew up in wartorn somalia, you're more likely to have required survival skills.
walter0bz 1 year ago