shit why wont Akira Toriyama publish this... its better than that other person he worked with to make the Bardock special... Toi anime should see this and bring it to life its just like Akiras work
Who made this? Why is it that omega shennron is there instead of syn shenron? Cause if all the other dragons are there then it should be syn not omega.
@nahomebelayneh he was there bcuz of the Androids that ruled over Earth due to Dr. Gero. He does during the cell games yes of course, but he didn't exist on there world. And unfortunately if they try its impossible bcuz present trunks is alive. Its a multiverse thing.
@Ramenforever123 we dont know all the limits of porunga's powers and they can just make a time machine or ask the dragon to wish them to future trunks demention to have 7 sayions
@raunaktar Surely Gohan SSJ4 and Vegeta SSJ4 = Gojeta SSJ4 would be capable of defeating Xicor, if not they should use the portra earrings which is 10x more powerful than fusion. Ie - vegito. Then we would have a PORTRA INFUSED SSJ4 of Gohan and vegeta! They can use the dragonballs to un-fuse them!
i just notice it takes 7 months for toyble to do this while dbm takes a month and updates every 2 days a page theres about 24 in each chapter so 2 months at least so thats 6 full chapters in a year while toyle only 2 such a waste of talent.. dbaf you suck
@SpartanForgeWorld300 my guess its coming on nov-dec then we will wait another 7 months for another crappy chapter i loved the begining but this is such a waste
@nitrocraz I don't think they could because the power of the dragonballs are limited by the one who created the set. And Grand Elder's power couldn't compare to the power of one super saiyan, let alone seven, which would be needed. Basically, the Dragon wouldn't have enough power to do so.
@TheSkaterboi06 But Broly had to die more than 2 years ago, bc the last time he got killed was when goten and trunks were little kids, and pan and bra werent even born yet
@defhalo3 Freezas momma left the family when dey saw goku was da strongest in da universe so she went to the planet where he went after namek blew up and took his blood sample while he was asleep and somehow made xicor overtime
that transformation, is ridiculous. Not once are they ever shown undergoing any rigorous training, they are both for the most part minor characters, and the transformation that millions of other sayians could perform, the transformation which was an obscure legend, is now reduced to "everyone can do it". This is utter shit, it's worse than Goten becoming an SSJ because at least that was somewhat plausible. These transformations are just to appease those who only care about them and not story.
@Jackmonster3231 that's pretty much how it is in the series. i mean if Goten, Trunks, Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. (both who are like 1-6th sayain) can do it then i'm pretty sure anyone that has sayain blood can go super sayain. what's wrong with Pan and Bra going super sayain anyway?
@DaBlackGoku17 Whats wrong is that neither of those characters are ever shown doing any sort of extensive training to achieve that form. SSJ used to be a form of legendary status, one that only 1 had ever achieved in the history of sayian history until Goku. So now 2 girls who are never shown training, especially bra, are able to do it? That's just bullshit story telling, no plot, and no plausible explanation for the event.
Just watched chapter 20 and you should consider putting broli and vegetas daughter together. Be pretty badass if they had a kid and the relationship between Him and Vegeta would be freakin hilarious.
Its pretty good but you know I can't help but facepalm myself about Future Trunks why not get him? I mean why not try that? Plus why not have Gohan and Vegeta train and then fuse in Super Saiyan 4?
It's a good idea bringing Broli back to life but it would have been just as easy to get Bulma to build a time machine and go into the future to get Future Trunks
@Gokutheaker but id figured that it would cause a tear in the space time continuum having two saiyan energy signals come from the same person but from two separate dimensions.
@kprempeh5 Future Trunks and Trunks were on Earth together during the Android and Cell sagas even though the normal Trunks was only a baby and was unable to go super saiyan there was still two of the same person at the same place at the same time
@thebestjoaopedro12 True although Trunks may have found Babidi first also I don't think Trunks would have sufficient power to bring Majin Buu to full power becuase in the present Majin Buu needed Super Saiyan 2 Gohan's power and the power taken from Goku and Vegeta's fight (who were both fighted at super saiyan 2) and since Trunks was the only saiyan left alive in that timeline Babidi would be unable to get enough power to bring Majin Buu back to life
@Gokutheaker how do u kno future trunks isnt dead? remember all the shit thats happened like Super 17 Buu Omega Shenron Bebi lol he couldnt have killed em all alone
@zoomzoomboy24 Super 17 would never have come to Earth because Goku wouldn't be alive so Dr Gero would never have built him to take revenge also Dr Myuu wouldn't have died so Dr Gero wouldn't have had help to build Super 17. It's also unlikely that Bebi would ever have come to Earth because Goku, Trunks and Pan would never have travelled the universe looking for the black star dragonballs because Goku and Pan wouldn't exist and the wish on them would never have been made. (see next comment)
@z3xor3749 i didn't mean THAT i was just saying why couldn't vegeta or sommething wish them back? and anyway they could have easily trained bardock or king vegeta to become super saiyan
@786SalamKhan Yes Porunga could do that since he can now bring back more than one person per wish but what would be the point since they only need one saiyan and they also need a super saiyan and no-one on Planet Vegeta was able to become a super saiyan
@Gokutheaker did u read anything a typed? i didn't mean at that exact moment, i was going off subject to that they could've done what i pointed out between then and before! sheesh.
@786SalamKhan Yes they could do that but what would be the point? Vegeta has become far too powerful to just go back to Planet Vegeta to become their prince once more and the Sayian race whould have become a disgrace to the remaining six saiyans left alive because none of the sayians that were killed on Planet Vegeta by Freeza were any more powerful than about 15,000-20,000.
@YungPrince7100 No there wouldn't both Trunks's existed for a few weeks from the beginning of the android saga to the end of the cell games saga and nothing happened then
@YungPrince7100 I know Trunks was a baby but they were both alive in the same time period together and although the normal timeline Trunks wouldn't be able to remember it still happened. Also Bulma may have told him about his future counterpart when he got a bit older
@Gokutheaker but if bulma told him, then no more universe (maybe) but remember when future trunks went back in time and warned them abot the androids, well it caused 16 and cell. so if they brought future trunks then another bad villen would appear so broly was the best choice i guess
@YungPrince7100 No it didn't, Trunks thought by him coming to the past he had caused android 16 to be created but in fact it was because Cell came back from the future that caused 16 to be alive, Goku not to have gotten the heart disease until after android 20 and 19 appeared etc. Also why would the universe end if Bulma told Trunks about his future counterpart?
@Gokutheaker i said maybe. cause if bulma told him then he might want 2 go 2 the future 2 see himself. also maybe he caused cell to exist like that and he cause the androids 2 be stronger then the 1s in his time. so broly was the best choice i guess
@YungPrince7100 Yeah he might want to go see himself but Trunks did not cause Cell or the changes in android 17 and 18's power levels. Cell came from a different future and killed that future's Trunks then came back in his time machine so Trunks had no effect on the past when he came back because he was supposed to come back to the past
@Gokutheaker but didnt future trunks when he went back in time to warn them abot 17 and 18 he caused a time parodox for another timeline where another trunks finds the remote and turns them off but then cell came
@YungPrince7100 I don't know whether or not Trunks caused that alternate timeline but Trunks was supposed to come back to the past and in that universe, that universe's Trunks somehow killed android 17 and 18 but was then killed by the cell that came back in time to the original timeline. That universe was also further in the future than Future Trunks's timeline
@Gokutheaker well i belive he caused a timeline. by the way how do yu know future trunks alive? i mean he killed cell but since he went back in time shouldnt he be dealing with the heros that there fighting in the present. kid buu, baby (not baby vegeta though) shenron if that happened uub and hercule(not really a hero though) r the only 2 heros left if it happened like that then trunks would have fused with black star dragon balls if that made sense
@YungPrince7100 Uub wouldn't have been born because no one would have wished for him to be Buu's reincarnation. It's unlikely Baby would have come to Earth because no-one would have ever gone into space to look for the black star dragonballs because a wish wouldn't have been made on them. The evil shenlongs would never have appeared because no more wishes would be needed to made by Trunks or anyone else for a while so the negative energy would have time to balance out again. (See next comment)
@YungPrince7100 (Continued) Finally I don't think Majin Buu would have ever been brought to life because Trunks was the only person with any real power on the Earth so Babidi wouldn't have anyone to take power from in order for Buu to be brought to life so when the East Kaioshin (Supreme Kai) came to Earth to warn Trunks about Majin Buu, they could both just go to where Babidi was hiding Majin Buu and whilst Trunks and Kibito took on Dabura the East Kaioshin could destroy Majin Buu and Babidi.
@Gokutheaker well babadi could have controlled random people, and they suck trunks energy. buu beats trunks, supreme kai takes trunks 2 the z sword trunks breaks it. ( hercule is alive though and super buu is born) elder kai tells him about the namek dragon balls and they wish future gohan back. they fuse with potata get rapped in super buus stomach then kid buu. so king kai tells trunks he used 2 be gokus master and tells him to use a 'spirit bomb''
@YungPrince7100 so gohan holds off kid buu while trunks learns the spirit bomb from king kai. trunks goes back to supreme kais world then see gohan pain then goes ss3 for the first time. then hurcule shows up then majin buu comes back and hercule asks for energy. trunks uses sprit bomb then wishes he could fight kid buu again. king yemma hears him and makes that happen. then pilaf would have appeared since no 1s killed him yet so then. (see next comment)
@YungPrince7100 he makes a wish for goku to be a kid but shenron cant make that happen since gokus dead so gohan appears then pilaf wishes for him to be a kid since uub and trunks r training. so then gohan turns back in to a kid. then trunks and uub go look for the black star dragon balls. then baby goes to earth gohan hold him off then trunks and uub go and fight. baby dies cause vegetas dead. dr gero in hell makes 2 more 17s and super 17 appears. ( see next comment)
@YungPrince7100 so pilafhears abot 17s and dr myuus request and pilaf uses the black star dragon balls to wish for a portal to hell. so then a human sacrafices himself to free trunks from hell. but then elder kai says that trunks needs a tail. so trunks goes training in the supreme kais planet. gets hes tail back then goes ss4 gohan goes ss3 for the first time and defeats super 17. then they would search again and fight the dragons. (see next comment)
@YungPrince7100 then elder kai asks gohan if he wants his tail back just in case. so then trunks try fighting syn shenron then gohan gets mad and trunks creates a special ball and gohan goes ape then ss4. king kai tells them how to do fusion and ss4 truhan is born or something like that. then truhan does finish buster times 100. fusion runs out and trunks uses the spirit bomb and either stayed there cause theres not many heros. (see next comment)
@YungPrince7100 if he did then only heros r left r uub, hercule, and gohan. or they could just use namek dragon balls to wish all of the heros back from hte past but i dont think they want 2 do that though
@YungPrince7100 I'm fed up with arguing with you about this subject every day and I don't want to write several thousands words as you have just done in response so let's just leave it
@YungPrince7100 Yes Babidi could have controlled random people, such as Spopovitch and Yamu, and he could have drianed Trunks's energy but at best that couldn't even get Majin Buu to half power so Babidi wouldn't ever get enough energy to revive Buu because the only people with any real energy left alive on Earth would be Trunks, Supreme Kai and Kibito and they would never allow themselves to all have their energy taken. The only possible way would be for Babidi to take Dabura's energy as well.
@Gokutheaker can i say 1 thing though yes im tired over the subject 2 but can i say 1 thing? ok yur right trunks, supreme kai, and kibito r the only 1s with basically high power levels but i think babadi would controll more then just spopovich and yamu. cause in the timeline where goku survives theres more warroires. in trunks there hardly any. so let me say i think babadi would controll more then 2 people and they would sneak and grab peoples energy like that. or babadi could just suck daburas
@YungPrince7100 Yes Babidi would have a lot more minions to help him gather energy but if he was just taking the energy from humans he would need to take energy from several million humans before he had enough to bring Majin Buu back to life but, as we've both said, he could gather the energy from Dabura but I don't think Dabura would allow Babidi to do that since he is far stronger than any of Babidi's other minions so he would just kill Babidi if he tried to take his energy.
@Gokutheaker can i say another thing though this is short ok? couldnt he have turned a million people into majins and asked his greatest majins spopovich and yamu 2 suck he other majins energy since theres not a lot big power levels. babadi could just freeze them and suck there energy. when trunks went back in time babadi saw there r a lot big power levels so he decided to have fun i guess. but in trunks timeline he would be seroius.
@YungPrince7100 Yeah but can you imagine the amount of time it would take Babidi to personally turn several million humans into Majins. I don't think it's his style, he prefers to leave all the work to his minions like when he got Spopovitch and Yamu to gather energy for him, instead of doing it himself.
@YungPrince7100 Yeah he could do although he could just leave them on Earth and get Spopovitch, Yamu and whoever else he's turned Majin to travel around the Earth to gather energy for him and the only person that could stop them would be Trunks
@Gokutheaker well he could find west kai or that girl kai and absorb her energy 2. plus it be different cause only trunks is there wats yur suggestion?
@YungPrince7100 Firstly the West Supreme Kai (that girl kai) died 5 million years before Dragonball Z was set so Babidid would be unable to take her energy since Buu already killed her and I don't think the East Supreme Kai would allow himself to have his energy absorbed and nor would Kibito because they are both too cautious and know about Babidi and Majin Buu so they would always be on the lookout so the only one that Babidi could steal energy from would be Trunks
@Gokutheaker ok let use short answers from now on. by the way west kai came back in af though didnt yu read the other chapters? by the way do yu think trunks would have trained 7 yrs and be able 2 go ss2 dont yu think? then babadi would have enough energy. wat do u think?
@YungPrince7100 Yes most probably Trunks would have become a super saiyan 2 although that wouldn't be enough power to ressurect Buu since Gohan at super saiyan 2 wasn't enough. Also we're talking about the Buu saga not Dragonball AF and in the canon manga and anime, West Supreme Kai is dead but in Dragonball AF she somehow survived Kid Buu's attack on the Kai's planet
@Gokutheaker but remember after gohan defeated cell, he stopped training till the world tournament. he just trained for 2 mounths i belive or less. i belive he just got lucky to go ss2. however i bet trunks would keep training nonstop cause theres no other heros around. so maybe trunks would have enough energy to ressuect buu. wat do yu think?
@YungPrince7100 True, Gohan did stop training for 7 years after defeating Cell and only started again just before the World Tournament started. So his power level dropped from 325,000,000 to around 250,000,000 at his maximum. Majin Buu when he was ressurected was 380,000,000 and Gohan when he had his energy stolen from him was around 200,000,000 so Spopovitch and Yamu managed to gather just over half the power needed to ressurect Buu. (see next comment)
@YungPrince7100 I believe that Trunks as a super saiyan 2 would be around Gohan strength when he fought Cell which was 325,000,000 (as I stated in my last comment) so his energy would take Majin Buu to around 85% of his full power and I don't think Trunks would allow himself to have his energy taken a second time I believe that Babidi would be able to find another source (such as Dabura) to gather the other 55,000,000
@Gokutheaker dont yu think trunks could go ss3? cause goku did and he didnt even go ss2 till the majin buu saga. so if trunks gos ss3 then buu would resurect wouldnt he?
@YungPrince7100 Trunks may be powerful but I don't think he's capable of going super saiyan 3. True, Goku didn't go super saiyan 2 until sometime during the 7 year time skip between the cell games saga and the great saiyaman saga but before the cell games saga there wasn't anyone strong enough to push Goku to become a super saiyan 2 but in the afterlife Pikkon was around Cell's strength so his constant sparring with Goku would have caused Goku to become a super saiyan 2 pretty quickly.(see next)
@assassinmakidoo Yes, True, there are no official power levels list after the Freeza saga but I have written a list for the entire series of Dragonball and Dragonball Z based on educated guesses when comparing power levels that we know are facts
@YungPrince7100 (continued from previous comment) and after Goku reached super saiyan 2 he was challenged by the other fighters in the other world and by constantly fighting he was able to become a super saiyan 3 in the next 6 or 7 years following. Trunks never had anyone to fight against after he killed android 17 and 18 and Cell so he would not be pushed into becoming a super saiyan 3. Likewise with Gohan, he slacked off with his training during the 7 year time skip so he's the same as Trunks.
@Gokutheaker well i dont think he slacked off. maybe 1 day trunks after going even ss2 realizez he cannot get any stronger. so he gets angry with memories of gohan dieing and of prefect cell killing him. so maybe he gets so angry he might go ss3 dont yu think?
@YungPrince7100 I don't see why he would get angry because it would have been around 15 years after Gohan's death plus he won't remember perfect cell killing him and super saiyan 3 comes about as a "need not a desire" (as quoted by Goku) so since there is no need for it Trunks will never achieve the form unless Majin Buu is released then that need would arise.
@YungPrince7100 Broly wouldn't exist in Trunks's timeline because no-one wold have ever gone to the planet where Paragus and Broly lived so Broly would have most likely have stayed on the planet where the Z fighters met him in the normal timeline but would have been killed when the comet hit the planet and Janemba was after Majin Buu so if Trunks was to ever become a super saiyan 3, he would have done it when Majin Buu was ressurected although even Gohan never became a super saiyan 3
@YungPrince7100 Yeah but Broly would not exist in Trunks timeline because your forgetting that Trunks timeline is 20 years ahead of the normal dbz timeline so by the time he has killed the androids and Cell, his timeline is already past the Buu saga and is in between the ten year break between the end of Dragon Ball Z and the start of Dragon Ball GT
@Gokutheaker but since trunks killed 17 18 and cell he started a new era. future trunks was in broly movie 1. but not in 2 and 3. by creating peace in the z fighters timeline he created more villans in his timeline. so probley broly or janemba would probley make him go ss3. (btw probley trunks would have power ss2 and a half so that would leade half way and yamu and spopovich would suck others energy and buu would ressurect
@YungPrince7100 Trunks stated himself that whatever he did in the Z fighters timeline would not affect his timeline at all so by creating peace in the Z fighters timeline, his would not change at all. Also Trunks as a super saiyan 2 would probably take Majin Buu to around 75% to 80% of his full strength so Yamu and Spopovitch would take energy from a few million humans to gather the rest of the energy although Trunks stated that the population of his world had gone down to the tens of thousands.
@Gokutheaker ok but remember vroly. and when spopovich and yamu were humans they were weak. but by creating majins theere strength gets bigger.( true the population did decrease a lot) so hhe would need 30 40 majins the nsuck there energy.
@YungPrince7100 True, Spopovitchs and Yamus strength did increase significantly (by about 1,000x) so Babidi would need around 500 Majin humans to gather the extra 50 million to resurrect Majin Buu
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DARKslayer1479 1 week ago
shit why wont Akira Toriyama publish this... its better than that other person he worked with to make the Bardock special... Toi anime should see this and bring it to life its just like Akiras work
Lpm1k3 2 weeks ago
the badass is back
dtm1919 3 weeks ago
Trunks dies in cell games **
Ramenforever123 1 month ago
So wait...bulla actually did something that didn't involve shopping?
Ultimauser50 1 month ago
4:19 anwser - make some babies :)
TheFourtyniner49 1 month ago
Who made this? Why is it that omega shennron is there instead of syn shenron? Cause if all the other dragons are there then it should be syn not omega.
adhd117 1 month ago
CAINT THEY REVIVE FUTURE TRUNKS?
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@nahomebelayneh I MEAN GET FUTURE TRUNKS TO HELP THEM
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@nahomebelayneh Dragonballs disappeared for awhile. it was in the final ep. of DBGT
Ramenforever123 1 month ago
@Ramenforever123 what about nameks dballs king kai would have communicated to them to bring future trunks there so that they can have 7 sayions :)
nahomebelayneh 1 month ago
@nahomebelayneh useless cause present trunks is born. Future Trunks no longer exist.
Ramenforever123 1 month ago
@Ramenforever123 ok explain how when future trunks was in the present in dbz baby trunks was there to?
nahomebelayneh 1 month ago
@nahomebelayneh he was there bcuz of the Androids that ruled over Earth due to Dr. Gero. He does during the cell games yes of course, but he didn't exist on there world. And unfortunately if they try its impossible bcuz present trunks is alive. Its a multiverse thing.
Ramenforever123 1 month ago
@Ramenforever123 we dont know all the limits of porunga's powers and they can just make a time machine or ask the dragon to wish them to future trunks demention to have 7 sayions
nahomebelayneh 1 month ago
@well how was trunks and goten suppose to know about future trunks. They were babies lol.nahomebelayneh
Ramenforever123 1 month ago
@nahomebelayneh well how was trunks and goten suppose to know lol. They were babies xD
Ramenforever123 1 month ago
So you travel all the way to new namek and only then is when you're contemplating on the wishes you should make. fucklogic...
yongslicer 2 months ago
i wish broly jus fking owned them all and ruled the universe :3
AUnbalancedSoUL 2 months ago 4
but even if they fuse they would not be powerful
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@raunaktar Surely Gohan SSJ4 and Vegeta SSJ4 = Gojeta SSJ4 would be capable of defeating Xicor, if not they should use the portra earrings which is 10x more powerful than fusion. Ie - vegito. Then we would have a PORTRA INFUSED SSJ4 of Gohan and vegeta! They can use the dragonballs to un-fuse them!
yongslicer 2 months ago
im guessing they forgot about fusion
~.~
Funnydude1415 3 months ago
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yongslicer 2 months ago
all of them man shit awesome
stevenator25ty 3 months ago
lol this is too awesome
y3llowflip 3 months ago
lmao at master roshi 5:22,so thats why he doesnt uses the nimbus nomore lol
unknownuser4rm 4 months ago
so wait, syn shenron and the other dragons are good now that all the negative energy went away?
SpartanForgeWorld300 4 months ago
@SpartanForgeWorld300 pretty much
blackplaig 4 months ago
i just notice it takes 7 months for toyble to do this while dbm takes a month and updates every 2 days a page theres about 24 in each chapter so 2 months at least so thats 6 full chapters in a year while toyle only 2 such a waste of talent.. dbaf you suck
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hmm see chapter 7 goku turns super saiyan 5 right?
MaDNeSS1116 4 months ago
love dbz af
bernardjones8 4 months ago
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MaDNeSS1116 4 months ago
i really wish we could see chapter 20. theres no super saiyan 5 goku yet. its still practically the beginning.
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ninakittynairn 4 months ago
@SpartanForgeWorld300 my guess its coming on nov-dec then we will wait another 7 months for another crappy chapter i loved the begining but this is such a waste
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THIS IS TOO HOT
canirip2001 5 months ago
shouldn't the fire dragon hate omega? omega shenron killed him after all
Gashbelly 5 months ago
Super Saiyan Bra and Pan :DDDDDDDD
blackplaig 5 months ago
wow the drawings are amazing comparable to the real ones
HondaS2000kid 5 months ago
I say go for Bardock! Not Broli! T^T
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Waaaait so we need to make super saiyans? let's fuck like crazy lol jk love this manga
drdre306 6 months ago
omg. super saiyan Pan and Bra is such bullshit.
jaggstang 6 months ago
GOOD JOB DO U HAVE ANY MORE
liyah13ish 7 months ago
ok he just fuck up the manga girls sayain cant turn to supersayain
darktochiro 7 months ago
the've uploaded some pages but they are not translated
thenewseagul 7 months ago
Man can u upload please all of the chapters on a Picture/PDF format or something?
PSP600HAX1 7 months ago
Chapter 20 is kick ass... I wont spoil it for yall though!
Cracky13 7 months ago
@Cracky13 whats the website for chapter 20
jtwpmm 7 months ago
now this makes no sense the saiyans have nothing 2 do with even creating the dragons how can they just power them now. come on now really
JJeff411 7 months ago
do you guys know why they stop making more of those dragonball af ?
kenruy007 7 months ago
even if this is 'fanmade' and non-canon like dbgt, unlike gt it's actually good.
but what i dont get is, if the new porunga has no death limit couldn't they just wish back planet vegeta?
786SalamKhan 7 months ago
I thought Broly died in the sun
TheSpiritStalker 7 months ago
@TheSpiritStalker the sun pwns all
Captaincrab77 7 months ago
is that tapion in kaioshin owrld?
nigahigagreatness 7 months ago
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MBGamingLegends 7 months ago
woah super saiyan pan and bra are hot and cool
moreepty1 8 months ago
BROLY!!!!
onemisterfranko 8 months ago
Lol , pan and bulla( i know bra.. ) goes ssj and the music fits just perfect XD ( i know ssj 3 goku theme..)
TLPBJK 8 months ago
Why didnt they wish for there dragon balls to become normal again?
nitrocraz 8 months ago
@nitrocraz I don't think they could because the power of the dragonballs are limited by the one who created the set. And Grand Elder's power couldn't compare to the power of one super saiyan, let alone seven, which would be needed. Basically, the Dragon wouldn't have enough power to do so.
Salien1999 8 months ago
this shit is so EPIC they should make a TV series
MoganFreeman1 8 months ago
damnnn but the dragonballs dont exxist because piccolo chose too die in GT
MoganFreeman1 8 months ago
Vegeta: dont worry i'll kil him myself
Everyone else: ignore
carnarsie5 8 months ago 3
i cant believe girls became super saiyans SHOCKER
TO INTERESTING
carnarsie5 8 months ago
THIS IS INTERESTING!!!
l2auka 8 months ago
look at vegeta's face at 3:48. hes really shocked!
YungPrince7100 8 months ago
so now girls can go super saiyans. af is beast
YungPrince7100 8 months ago
@TheSkaterboi06 But Broly had to die more than 2 years ago, bc the last time he got killed was when goten and trunks were little kids, and pan and bra werent even born yet
MikeaZone 8 months ago
Why not whish back Bardock!!!!???????
MikeaZone 8 months ago
@MikeaZone he aint got enough power to go super
YungPrince7100 7 months ago
can anyone tell me how xicor is goku's son ?
defhalo3 8 months ago
@defhalo3 Go watch the first few chapters of af
MikeaZone 8 months ago
@defhalo3 Freezas momma left the family when dey saw goku was da strongest in da universe so she went to the planet where he went after namek blew up and took his blood sample while he was asleep and somehow made xicor overtime
boobiemilesify 8 months ago
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd
has214 8 months ago
however made dis is brilliant and a true fan of the db series
firefacex 9 months ago
god why couldnt dis be a real series it makes so much sense
firefacex 9 months ago
i shit myself when i saw broly
DejuanBlantonDTB14 9 months ago
Broli comes back
My thoughts OHHHH SHITTT
kanai48 9 months ago
that transformation, is ridiculous. Not once are they ever shown undergoing any rigorous training, they are both for the most part minor characters, and the transformation that millions of other sayians could perform, the transformation which was an obscure legend, is now reduced to "everyone can do it". This is utter shit, it's worse than Goten becoming an SSJ because at least that was somewhat plausible. These transformations are just to appease those who only care about them and not story.
Jackmonster3231 9 months ago
@Jackmonster3231 that's pretty much how it is in the series. i mean if Goten, Trunks, Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. (both who are like 1-6th sayain) can do it then i'm pretty sure anyone that has sayain blood can go super sayain. what's wrong with Pan and Bra going super sayain anyway?
DaBlackGoku17 8 months ago
@DaBlackGoku17 Whats wrong is that neither of those characters are ever shown doing any sort of extensive training to achieve that form. SSJ used to be a form of legendary status, one that only 1 had ever achieved in the history of sayian history until Goku. So now 2 girls who are never shown training, especially bra, are able to do it? That's just bullshit story telling, no plot, and no plausible explanation for the event.
Jackmonster3231 8 months ago
this af series is soooo sickkkkkkkkkkk
BasedMovement 9 months ago
instead of making a clone of vegeta that lasts for like say, two months => fusion doublevegeta + summon goku... really how stupid are they?
kakker69 9 months ago
lol female saiyans cant be super saiyans...i guess they changed that xD
Saiyajin256 9 months ago
lol, 1:29 Vegetaz like: "WTH?! now I'll never beat kakarot!!!"
JetBlackStare77 9 months ago
ESTO NO ES ECHO POR AKIRA -.-ªªªª ASI KE NUNCA SALDRA EN ANIME
SilberFuck 9 months ago
pan and bulla first girl super saiyans
theshlohan 9 months ago
Just watched chapter 20 and you should consider putting broli and vegetas daughter together. Be pretty badass if they had a kid and the relationship between Him and Vegeta would be freakin hilarious.
jlira02 10 months ago
@jlira02 where did u c chapter 20
sleepingmillions 9 months ago
Bulma and Pan are super saiyans? HOLY SHIT
ThunderPower1000 10 months ago
Its pretty good but you know I can't help but facepalm myself about Future Trunks why not get him? I mean why not try that? Plus why not have Gohan and Vegeta train and then fuse in Super Saiyan 4?
Vegetto776 10 months ago
this is so coolie woolie
MrYaseenK99 10 months ago
It's a good idea bringing Broli back to life but it would have been just as easy to get Bulma to build a time machine and go into the future to get Future Trunks
Gokutheaker 10 months ago 10
@Gokutheaker but id figured that it would cause a tear in the space time continuum having two saiyan energy signals come from the same person but from two separate dimensions.
kprempeh5 10 months ago
@kprempeh5 Future Trunks and Trunks were on Earth together during the Android and Cell sagas even though the normal Trunks was only a baby and was unable to go super saiyan there was still two of the same person at the same place at the same time
Gokutheaker 10 months ago
no Idon't think so , maybe bulma hasn't known how to build time machine yet or maybe in their world bulma will not invent time machine
mrwail1992 8 months ago
@Gokutheaker I dont know because if majinbuu exisists in that future. he propably dead
thebestjoaopedro12 8 months ago
@thebestjoaopedro12 True although Trunks may have found Babidi first also I don't think Trunks would have sufficient power to bring Majin Buu to full power becuase in the present Majin Buu needed Super Saiyan 2 Gohan's power and the power taken from Goku and Vegeta's fight (who were both fighted at super saiyan 2) and since Trunks was the only saiyan left alive in that timeline Babidi would be unable to get enough power to bring Majin Buu back to life
Gokutheaker 8 months ago
@yeah good point.
but babidi maybe has dabura with him no?
thebestjoaopedro12 8 months ago
@Gokutheaker how do u kno future trunks isnt dead? remember all the shit thats happened like Super 17 Buu Omega Shenron Bebi lol he couldnt have killed em all alone
zoomzoomboy24 8 months ago
@zoomzoomboy24 Super 17 would never have come to Earth because Goku wouldn't be alive so Dr Gero would never have built him to take revenge also Dr Myuu wouldn't have died so Dr Gero wouldn't have had help to build Super 17. It's also unlikely that Bebi would ever have come to Earth because Goku, Trunks and Pan would never have travelled the universe looking for the black star dragonballs because Goku and Pan wouldn't exist and the wish on them would never have been made. (see next comment)
Gokutheaker 8 months ago
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Gokutheaker 8 months ago
@Gokutheaker but the problem is that Future trunks and trunks are the same person. the balls need 7 different light sources
nigahigagreatness 7 months ago
@nigahigagreatness That is most probaly true yes but does it actually state that the dragonballs need different light sources
Gokutheaker 7 months ago
@Gokutheaker if the new porunga has no death limit couldn't they just wish back planet vegeta?
786SalamKhan 7 months ago
@786SalamKhan that makes no sense because none of the saiyans were super saiyans
z3xor3749 7 months ago
@z3xor3749 i didn't mean THAT i was just saying why couldn't vegeta or sommething wish them back? and anyway they could have easily trained bardock or king vegeta to become super saiyan
786SalamKhan 7 months ago
@786SalamKhan Yes Porunga could do that since he can now bring back more than one person per wish but what would be the point since they only need one saiyan and they also need a super saiyan and no-one on Planet Vegeta was able to become a super saiyan
Gokutheaker 7 months ago
@Gokutheaker did u read anything a typed? i didn't mean at that exact moment, i was going off subject to that they could've done what i pointed out between then and before! sheesh.
786SalamKhan 7 months ago
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Gokutheaker 7 months ago
@786SalamKhan Yes they could do that but what would be the point? Vegeta has become far too powerful to just go back to Planet Vegeta to become their prince once more and the Sayian race whould have become a disgrace to the remaining six saiyans left alive because none of the sayians that were killed on Planet Vegeta by Freeza were any more powerful than about 15,000-20,000.
Gokutheaker 7 months ago
@Gokutheaker but then thered be a time paradox. if future trunks met himself thered be a rip in the space time continuem
YungPrince7100 7 months ago
@YungPrince7100 No there wouldn't both Trunks's existed for a few weeks from the beginning of the android saga to the end of the cell games saga and nothing happened then
Gokutheaker 7 months ago
@Gokutheaker trunks was a baby
YungPrince7100 7 months ago
@YungPrince7100 I know Trunks was a baby but they were both alive in the same time period together and although the normal timeline Trunks wouldn't be able to remember it still happened. Also Bulma may have told him about his future counterpart when he got a bit older
Gokutheaker 7 months ago
@Gokutheaker but if bulma told him, then no more universe (maybe) but remember when future trunks went back in time and warned them abot the androids, well it caused 16 and cell. so if they brought future trunks then another bad villen would appear so broly was the best choice i guess
YungPrince7100 7 months ago
@YungPrince7100 No it didn't, Trunks thought by him coming to the past he had caused android 16 to be created but in fact it was because Cell came back from the future that caused 16 to be alive, Goku not to have gotten the heart disease until after android 20 and 19 appeared etc. Also why would the universe end if Bulma told Trunks about his future counterpart?
Gokutheaker 7 months ago
@Gokutheaker i said maybe. cause if bulma told him then he might want 2 go 2 the future 2 see himself. also maybe he caused cell to exist like that and he cause the androids 2 be stronger then the 1s in his time. so broly was the best choice i guess
YungPrince7100 7 months ago
@YungPrince7100 Yeah he might want to go see himself but Trunks did not cause Cell or the changes in android 17 and 18's power levels. Cell came from a different future and killed that future's Trunks then came back in his time machine so Trunks had no effect on the past when he came back because he was supposed to come back to the past
Gokutheaker 7 months ago
@Gokutheaker but didnt future trunks when he went back in time to warn them abot 17 and 18 he caused a time parodox for another timeline where another trunks finds the remote and turns them off but then cell came
YungPrince7100 7 months ago
@YungPrince7100 I don't know whether or not Trunks caused that alternate timeline but Trunks was supposed to come back to the past and in that universe, that universe's Trunks somehow killed android 17 and 18 but was then killed by the cell that came back in time to the original timeline. That universe was also further in the future than Future Trunks's timeline
Gokutheaker 7 months ago
@Gokutheaker well i belive he caused a timeline. by the way how do yu know future trunks alive? i mean he killed cell but since he went back in time shouldnt he be dealing with the heros that there fighting in the present. kid buu, baby (not baby vegeta though) shenron if that happened uub and hercule(not really a hero though) r the only 2 heros left if it happened like that then trunks would have fused with black star dragon balls if that made sense
YungPrince7100 7 months ago
@YungPrince7100 Uub wouldn't have been born because no one would have wished for him to be Buu's reincarnation. It's unlikely Baby would have come to Earth because no-one would have ever gone into space to look for the black star dragonballs because a wish wouldn't have been made on them. The evil shenlongs would never have appeared because no more wishes would be needed to made by Trunks or anyone else for a while so the negative energy would have time to balance out again. (See next comment)
Gokutheaker 7 months ago
@YungPrince7100 (Continued) Finally I don't think Majin Buu would have ever been brought to life because Trunks was the only person with any real power on the Earth so Babidi wouldn't have anyone to take power from in order for Buu to be brought to life so when the East Kaioshin (Supreme Kai) came to Earth to warn Trunks about Majin Buu, they could both just go to where Babidi was hiding Majin Buu and whilst Trunks and Kibito took on Dabura the East Kaioshin could destroy Majin Buu and Babidi.
Gokutheaker 7 months ago
@Gokutheaker well babadi could have controlled random people, and they suck trunks energy. buu beats trunks, supreme kai takes trunks 2 the z sword trunks breaks it. ( hercule is alive though and super buu is born) elder kai tells him about the namek dragon balls and they wish future gohan back. they fuse with potata get rapped in super buus stomach then kid buu. so king kai tells trunks he used 2 be gokus master and tells him to use a 'spirit bomb''
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YungPrince7100 7 months ago
@YungPrince7100 so gohan holds off kid buu while trunks learns the spirit bomb from king kai. trunks goes back to supreme kais world then see gohan pain then goes ss3 for the first time. then hurcule shows up then majin buu comes back and hercule asks for energy. trunks uses sprit bomb then wishes he could fight kid buu again. king yemma hears him and makes that happen. then pilaf would have appeared since no 1s killed him yet so then. (see next comment)
YungPrince7100 7 months ago
@YungPrince7100 he makes a wish for goku to be a kid but shenron cant make that happen since gokus dead so gohan appears then pilaf wishes for him to be a kid since uub and trunks r training. so then gohan turns back in to a kid. then trunks and uub go look for the black star dragon balls. then baby goes to earth gohan hold him off then trunks and uub go and fight. baby dies cause vegetas dead. dr gero in hell makes 2 more 17s and super 17 appears. ( see next comment)
YungPrince7100 7 months ago
@YungPrince7100 so pilafhears abot 17s and dr myuus request and pilaf uses the black star dragon balls to wish for a portal to hell. so then a human sacrafices himself to free trunks from hell. but then elder kai says that trunks needs a tail. so trunks goes training in the supreme kais planet. gets hes tail back then goes ss4 gohan goes ss3 for the first time and defeats super 17. then they would search again and fight the dragons. (see next comment)
YungPrince7100 7 months ago
@YungPrince7100 then elder kai asks gohan if he wants his tail back just in case. so then trunks try fighting syn shenron then gohan gets mad and trunks creates a special ball and gohan goes ape then ss4. king kai tells them how to do fusion and ss4 truhan is born or something like that. then truhan does finish buster times 100. fusion runs out and trunks uses the spirit bomb and either stayed there cause theres not many heros. (see next comment)
YungPrince7100 7 months ago
@YungPrince7100 if he did then only heros r left r uub, hercule, and gohan. or they could just use namek dragon balls to wish all of the heros back from hte past but i dont think they want 2 do that though
YungPrince7100 7 months ago
@YungPrince7100 I'm fed up with arguing with you about this subject every day and I don't want to write several thousands words as you have just done in response so let's just leave it
Gokutheaker 7 months ago
@YungPrince7100 Yes Babidi could have controlled random people, such as Spopovitch and Yamu, and he could have drianed Trunks's energy but at best that couldn't even get Majin Buu to half power so Babidi wouldn't ever get enough energy to revive Buu because the only people with any real energy left alive on Earth would be Trunks, Supreme Kai and Kibito and they would never allow themselves to all have their energy taken. The only possible way would be for Babidi to take Dabura's energy as well.
Gokutheaker 7 months ago
@Gokutheaker can i say 1 thing though yes im tired over the subject 2 but can i say 1 thing? ok yur right trunks, supreme kai, and kibito r the only 1s with basically high power levels but i think babadi would controll more then just spopovich and yamu. cause in the timeline where goku survives theres more warroires. in trunks there hardly any. so let me say i think babadi would controll more then 2 people and they would sneak and grab peoples energy like that. or babadi could just suck daburas
YungPrince7100 7 months ago
@YungPrince7100 Yes Babidi would have a lot more minions to help him gather energy but if he was just taking the energy from humans he would need to take energy from several million humans before he had enough to bring Majin Buu back to life but, as we've both said, he could gather the energy from Dabura but I don't think Dabura would allow Babidi to do that since he is far stronger than any of Babidi's other minions so he would just kill Babidi if he tried to take his energy.
Gokutheaker 7 months ago
@Gokutheaker can i say another thing though this is short ok? couldnt he have turned a million people into majins and asked his greatest majins spopovich and yamu 2 suck he other majins energy since theres not a lot big power levels. babadi could just freeze them and suck there energy. when trunks went back in time babadi saw there r a lot big power levels so he decided to have fun i guess. but in trunks timeline he would be seroius.
YungPrince7100 7 months ago
@YungPrince7100 Yeah but can you imagine the amount of time it would take Babidi to personally turn several million humans into Majins. I don't think it's his style, he prefers to leave all the work to his minions like when he got Spopovitch and Yamu to gather energy for him, instead of doing it himself.
Gokutheaker 7 months ago
@Gokutheaker yeah thats it. so wouldnt majin buu rise or something like that?
YungPrince7100 7 months ago
@Gokutheaker so wouldnt babadi transport the humans to a location and have spopovich and yamu suck energy?
YungPrince7100 6 months ago
@YungPrince7100 Yeah he could do although he could just leave them on Earth and get Spopovitch, Yamu and whoever else he's turned Majin to travel around the Earth to gather energy for him and the only person that could stop them would be Trunks
Gokutheaker 6 months ago
@Gokutheaker yeah so would majin buu reserect or not? exactly?
YungPrince7100 6 months ago
@YungPrince7100 No I don't think Majin Buu would be ressurected because Babidi would be incapable of gathering enough energy to do so
Gokutheaker 6 months ago
@Gokutheaker well he could find west kai or that girl kai and absorb her energy 2. plus it be different cause only trunks is there wats yur suggestion?
YungPrince7100 6 months ago
@YungPrince7100 Firstly the West Supreme Kai (that girl kai) died 5 million years before Dragonball Z was set so Babidid would be unable to take her energy since Buu already killed her and I don't think the East Supreme Kai would allow himself to have his energy absorbed and nor would Kibito because they are both too cautious and know about Babidi and Majin Buu so they would always be on the lookout so the only one that Babidi could steal energy from would be Trunks
Gokutheaker 6 months ago
@Gokutheaker ok let use short answers from now on. by the way west kai came back in af though didnt yu read the other chapters? by the way do yu think trunks would have trained 7 yrs and be able 2 go ss2 dont yu think? then babadi would have enough energy. wat do u think?
YungPrince7100 6 months ago
@YungPrince7100 Yes most probably Trunks would have become a super saiyan 2 although that wouldn't be enough power to ressurect Buu since Gohan at super saiyan 2 wasn't enough. Also we're talking about the Buu saga not Dragonball AF and in the canon manga and anime, West Supreme Kai is dead but in Dragonball AF she somehow survived Kid Buu's attack on the Kai's planet
Gokutheaker 6 months ago
@Gokutheaker but remember after gohan defeated cell, he stopped training till the world tournament. he just trained for 2 mounths i belive or less. i belive he just got lucky to go ss2. however i bet trunks would keep training nonstop cause theres no other heros around. so maybe trunks would have enough energy to ressuect buu. wat do yu think?
YungPrince7100 6 months ago
@YungPrince7100 True, Gohan did stop training for 7 years after defeating Cell and only started again just before the World Tournament started. So his power level dropped from 325,000,000 to around 250,000,000 at his maximum. Majin Buu when he was ressurected was 380,000,000 and Gohan when he had his energy stolen from him was around 200,000,000 so Spopovitch and Yamu managed to gather just over half the power needed to ressurect Buu. (see next comment)
Gokutheaker 6 months ago
@Gokutheaker there is no official power level infomation after the frieza saga so that infomation is total bullshit buddy.
assassinmakidoo 5 months ago
@YungPrince7100 I believe that Trunks as a super saiyan 2 would be around Gohan strength when he fought Cell which was 325,000,000 (as I stated in my last comment) so his energy would take Majin Buu to around 85% of his full power and I don't think Trunks would allow himself to have his energy taken a second time I believe that Babidi would be able to find another source (such as Dabura) to gather the other 55,000,000
Gokutheaker 6 months ago
@Gokutheaker dont yu think trunks could go ss3? cause goku did and he didnt even go ss2 till the majin buu saga. so if trunks gos ss3 then buu would resurect wouldnt he?
YungPrince7100 6 months ago
@YungPrince7100 Trunks may be powerful but I don't think he's capable of going super saiyan 3. True, Goku didn't go super saiyan 2 until sometime during the 7 year time skip between the cell games saga and the great saiyaman saga but before the cell games saga there wasn't anyone strong enough to push Goku to become a super saiyan 2 but in the afterlife Pikkon was around Cell's strength so his constant sparring with Goku would have caused Goku to become a super saiyan 2 pretty quickly.(see next)
Gokutheaker 6 months ago
@Gokutheaker I hope your not another 40 year old hardcore fan like most Naruto fans.
assassinmakidoo 5 months ago
@assassinmakidoo No :L I'm 25 years younger than that
Gokutheaker 5 months ago
@assassinmakidoo Yes, True, there are no official power levels list after the Freeza saga but I have written a list for the entire series of Dragonball and Dragonball Z based on educated guesses when comparing power levels that we know are facts
Gokutheaker 5 months ago
@Gokutheaker There are no faqs beyond the Frieza saga you fucking moron.
assassinmakidoo 5 months ago
@Gokutheaker I never said there was retard
Gokutheaker 5 months ago
@YungPrince7100 (continued from previous comment) and after Goku reached super saiyan 2 he was challenged by the other fighters in the other world and by constantly fighting he was able to become a super saiyan 3 in the next 6 or 7 years following. Trunks never had anyone to fight against after he killed android 17 and 18 and Cell so he would not be pushed into becoming a super saiyan 3. Likewise with Gohan, he slacked off with his training during the 7 year time skip so he's the same as Trunks.
Gokutheaker 6 months ago
@Gokutheaker well i dont think he slacked off. maybe 1 day trunks after going even ss2 realizez he cannot get any stronger. so he gets angry with memories of gohan dieing and of prefect cell killing him. so maybe he gets so angry he might go ss3 dont yu think?
YungPrince7100 6 months ago
@YungPrince7100 I don't see why he would get angry because it would have been around 15 years after Gohan's death plus he won't remember perfect cell killing him and super saiyan 3 comes about as a "need not a desire" (as quoted by Goku) so since there is no need for it Trunks will never achieve the form unless Majin Buu is released then that need would arise.
Gokutheaker 6 months ago
@Gokutheaker also yur gorgeting abot the movies. broly like in broly second coming would probley cause him 2 snap and go ss3 and janemba
YungPrince7100 6 months ago
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@YungPrince7100 Broly wouldn't exist in Trunks's timeline because no-one wold have ever gone to the planet where Paragus and Broly lived so Broly would have most likely have stayed on the planet where the Z fighters met him in the normal timeline but would have been killed when the comet hit the planet and Janemba was after Majin Buu so if Trunks was to ever become a super saiyan 3, he would have done it when Majin Buu was ressurected although even Gohan never became a super saiyan 3
Gokutheaker 6 months ago
@YungPrince7100 so broly would probley get trunks anger like in broly second comig
YungPrince7100 6 months ago
@YungPrince7100 Yeah but Broly would not exist in Trunks timeline because your forgetting that Trunks timeline is 20 years ahead of the normal dbz timeline so by the time he has killed the androids and Cell, his timeline is already past the Buu saga and is in between the ten year break between the end of Dragon Ball Z and the start of Dragon Ball GT
Gokutheaker 6 months ago
@Gokutheaker but since trunks killed 17 18 and cell he started a new era. future trunks was in broly movie 1. but not in 2 and 3. by creating peace in the z fighters timeline he created more villans in his timeline. so probley broly or janemba would probley make him go ss3. (btw probley trunks would have power ss2 and a half so that would leade half way and yamu and spopovich would suck others energy and buu would ressurect
YungPrince7100 6 months ago
@YungPrince7100 Trunks stated himself that whatever he did in the Z fighters timeline would not affect his timeline at all so by creating peace in the Z fighters timeline, his would not change at all. Also Trunks as a super saiyan 2 would probably take Majin Buu to around 75% to 80% of his full strength so Yamu and Spopovitch would take energy from a few million humans to gather the rest of the energy although Trunks stated that the population of his world had gone down to the tens of thousands.
Gokutheaker 6 months ago
@Gokutheaker ok but remember vroly. and when spopovich and yamu were humans they were weak. but by creating majins theere strength gets bigger.( true the population did decrease a lot) so hhe would need 30 40 majins the nsuck there energy.
YungPrince7100 6 months ago
@YungPrince7100 True, Spopovitchs and Yamus strength did increase significantly (by about 1,000x) so Babidi would need around 500 Majin humans to gather the extra 50 million to resurrect Majin Buu
Gokutheaker 6 months ago
@Gokutheaker so majin buu would resurect then
YungPrince7100 6 months ago
@YungPrince7100 Yes most likely
Gokutheaker 6 months ago