My advice is take everyones "rules" and "advice" from the comments, read them, then forget them. Use your ears. They're not just there to hold up your glasses.
ableton live has a headroom about +6dB! compare a track "mastered" in live with a commercial production concerning the perceived loudness. Live has less volume.... make an experiment: increase the volume and try to hear with your ears when clipping occours, NOT looking at the peak meter and it`s color. Solo your hihats, that makes hearing the clipping easier (at least for me).
you can let ableton live 'hit the red' there still is plenty of space left of headroom beforce clipping occurs!
The only reason it doesn't clip after you apply the Vintage Warmer is because it also acts as a compressor/limiter. Keep in mind that applying such an effect on a clipping signal doesn't eliminate clipping entirely. Think about it, the input of your Warmer is clipped to begin with, so you're pushing the plug in way too hard right from the start. Lower your volumes before using any processors. That way you'll get the full benefit of what the plug does and not just use it to stop clipping
Good video indeed. I'm sure new Live users will appreciate this. I used to have overdriven, distorted tracks. After I learned how to use compression and saturation I got better. Now everything sounds clean, like a professional studio recording. For the iZotope thing, I would not use that on a master track.This goes for most other compressors as well though. If you equally compress the whole thing, you might not get you lead instrument in the lead
i think it's important for the guy who posted the video to make people aware that something like vintage warmer should be put in the path at the beginning of a mix not at the end.
one should mix through any sort of compressor or tape saturation device to achieve a final mix with out the side effects.and like nativeops said you really shouldn't be letting mixes go into the red anyway. you should be always thinking about maintaining head room whilst keeping a warm open sound with punch
this comment is only partially true: PSP Vintage Warmer is also a limiter and has output ceiling so it can be used last in the Mixdown/Mastering signal chain.
yes i agree if u add this plug in to a bus @ the start and send all tracks to this bus then send it t o the master ..works best for me ,so u mix to the vintage warmer and adjust that way pretty neat trick , to get nice sound and u dont have to do much @ the end
good job, you just completely squashed the entire mix.
Maybe you should read a book before you use one of those.
A little hint for ya: If your mix is already hitting the clipping light, you've already destroy the signal path. First you must mix the tracks, it's all about squeezing a group of tracks into a box. Then after everything sounds good, you can learn to apply the compressor.
@nativeops That is a misconception. All the individual channels can hit red and it doesn't affect the sound quality. The reason for this is that most DAWs have 32 bit internal bit depht which allows massive headroom. Don't believe me? Check this out: watch?v=Ph1M3QZGku8&hd=1
Sounds like a track from that Tropico game!
01RobPwr 1 month ago
My advice is take everyones "rules" and "advice" from the comments, read them, then forget them. Use your ears. They're not just there to hold up your glasses.
DaveElyzium 7 months ago 3
@DaveElyzium thanks for your advise....really i followed their advices too :)
keyboardista 7 months ago
lol
RaggaDnB 7 months ago
This is like discovering america! :D
Every compressor can make it. Vintage warmer is better for other more detailed things.
seismix604 9 months ago
you're clipping the same man
at input stage inside vintage warmer
mind on and be careful
Uruk666Hai 1 year ago
lame song
dillweed44 1 year ago
how do you install vintage to ableton ?? can you make a tutorial please ???
NicoleAmbresi 1 year ago
Nobodies mentioned eq here.
eq is so important in achieving optimum head room.
EG - Taking the weight (low frequencies) out of your hihats with a high pass filter will help you free up some room.
Quite often my mixes peak in the red before I start eq'ing.
djslipdisk 1 year ago
I love this plug in. But you have to be extremely careful to not over do it! And recommend never using it on a whole mix. Just a vocal submix
glict 1 year ago
ableton live has a headroom about +6dB! compare a track "mastered" in live with a commercial production concerning the perceived loudness. Live has less volume.... make an experiment: increase the volume and try to hear with your ears when clipping occours, NOT looking at the peak meter and it`s color. Solo your hihats, that makes hearing the clipping easier (at least for me).
you can let ableton live 'hit the red' there still is plenty of space left of headroom beforce clipping occurs!
kultfigurMusic 1 year ago
Music sounds like Diddy Kong Racing
bozcoz 1 year ago 2
that's not how the software is supposed to be used...
you need to put vw on the individual tracks and put a limiter on your master track
MikeHall683 2 years ago
Vintage warmer is also a limiter. Also you can absolutely add an instance of PSP VW on the master.
bilbomarks 2 years ago
The only reason it doesn't clip after you apply the Vintage Warmer is because it also acts as a compressor/limiter. Keep in mind that applying such an effect on a clipping signal doesn't eliminate clipping entirely. Think about it, the input of your Warmer is clipped to begin with, so you're pushing the plug in way too hard right from the start. Lower your volumes before using any processors. That way you'll get the full benefit of what the plug does and not just use it to stop clipping
RVLVNGDRS 2 years ago 3
so if i set a compressor on a track that im about to record vocals onto what will it do?
RonBrasco 2 years ago
Good video indeed. I'm sure new Live users will appreciate this. I used to have overdriven, distorted tracks. After I learned how to use compression and saturation I got better. Now everything sounds clean, like a professional studio recording. For the iZotope thing, I would not use that on a master track.This goes for most other compressors as well though. If you equally compress the whole thing, you might not get you lead instrument in the lead
remixbysatan 2 years ago
thanks for that brilliant contribution...your comments really helps us understands mastering audio.
keyboardista 2 years ago
thanks for the vid. It educates both the owner and the spectatiors at the same time with the pro comments.
Transify 2 years ago
Well I guess that was serious. IDK, was it to be taken sarcastically? :(
eminemismybf13 2 years ago
Vintage warmer is very good. Have you tried iZotope's 'Ozone' its brilliant at doing this and has a much more versatile interface. Thanks for vid
eArtrash 3 years ago 3
i think it's important for the guy who posted the video to make people aware that something like vintage warmer should be put in the path at the beginning of a mix not at the end.
one should mix through any sort of compressor or tape saturation device to achieve a final mix with out the side effects.and like nativeops said you really shouldn't be letting mixes go into the red anyway. you should be always thinking about maintaining head room whilst keeping a warm open sound with punch
tiekumark 3 years ago
this comment is only partially true: PSP Vintage Warmer is also a limiter and has output ceiling so it can be used last in the Mixdown/Mastering signal chain.
Telektonon13 3 years ago
yes i agree if u add this plug in to a bus @ the start and send all tracks to this bus then send it t o the master ..works best for me ,so u mix to the vintage warmer and adjust that way pretty neat trick , to get nice sound and u dont have to do much @ the end
djbistronica 2 years ago
good job, you just completely squashed the entire mix.
Maybe you should read a book before you use one of those.
A little hint for ya: If your mix is already hitting the clipping light, you've already destroy the signal path. First you must mix the tracks, it's all about squeezing a group of tracks into a box. Then after everything sounds good, you can learn to apply the compressor.
nativeops 3 years ago 6
thanks for that useful comment,im not aware of the thing that from the start of the mix...the peak of the volume must be avoided.
keyboardista 3 years ago
it's usually better to mix with compression on the master buss
mindphlux 2 years ago
@nativeops That is a misconception. All the individual channels can hit red and it doesn't affect the sound quality. The reason for this is that most DAWs have 32 bit internal bit depht which allows massive headroom. Don't believe me? Check this out: watch?v=Ph1M3QZGku8&hd=1
But never drive the master output beyond 0db.
kb1629 4 months ago
Bay ok na imo software...
puppyjlo 3 years ago
heheheh nag experiment ko ug plug ins....
keyboardista 3 years ago