hey, the thread is not pulling out any hairs. can you tell me how the thread pulls the hair off? i'm opening and closing my fingers, but it's still not pulling out the hairs with the bow tie knot.
Great explanation for how threading is done. Now I understand the scissoring motion of the hands and the opposite sides of the "knot" in the middle. Great video. Thanks!
OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH I wanted to learn this since years ago thanks again and ur english is so clear thats good because some people i cant understand what they r saying when they share cool stuff like this and I get frustrated...
yup, and when threading on someone else...you use more string and make an anchor from your mouth...kind of complicated to say here...but, it's using the same scissor method. =]
Its better to have the knot in the thread on one side in your hand. =] At least it is for me...because when the thread twists the knot kind of stops it or gets tangled =/
Right after i watched your video...i went into my sewing stuff and got out some thread and tried it...a lot simpler than i thought (still need practice) but im already starting to like this method. Thanks for the vid.
Thanks so much for this! The lady I've been going to do thread my facial hair has brought her price up to $20 ! (used to be 10..) and I go to her like every other week. anyway i was wondering, am i doing something wrong if my skin is sometimes being pulled when i thread myself?
try holding the thread just a bit away from the skin-- don't rest it on your skin. Make the thread hover over it just a bit. You'll still catch the hair.
omg i cant thank u enough ty a million if there was a bigger word than thanx i would definatly use it omg you really dont know how much i apprecaited this
and like all the others said you are sooo beautiful wow i wish i could be like you lol :]
whoa, i've never seen anyone do it to themselves, that's impressive. i've been getting my eyebrows threaded since i was 13-14 and i'm almost 22 now. i'm trying to convince my friend to go with me and showed her your video. =)
geez you have such natural beauty. I love your nails.. hair.. everything haha. I've been trying to grow my nails out that long for ever! I never succeed hahah
Hey aside from this video, got caught up with your blog regarding the genocide out in Sri Lanka with the Tamils. Was in complete shock, I dont think I've heard of anything like that going on in Sri Lanka. It's a shame how we're all destroying ourselves...sorry didnt mean to get off your beauty topic..very helpful information on both the beauty video and in politics.
I got my eyebrows threaded at the mall and she was going so slow it hurt sooo bad!! I pluck my eyebrows and it doesn't hurt as bad as threading. Its cool how its done and i like the shape of my brow but it left scars above my eye. I 'm never getting my eyebrows threaded again.
@sajamathu My thread keeps on breaking no matter what kind I use so I guess its me and I have to practice. I just wish you had showed a little better on how to hold it in my hands. Very good video though. ty
hey! LOOOVE THIS! just wondered if u noticed the irony of how mny ppl r copyin ur threadin video n takin credit for it! i no tht this is ur own method becuz this is a very unknown method! but now its poppin out everywhere funny right:P
Lmao. Threading is an ancient art so it's been around for a while. No credit is due to me. And plus, when you make a video for youtube, it's meant for others to experience and try it out too! So don't worry to much about it! :)
Actual there are threading videos that go back further than the date this was posted. I think it does not make a difference who was the 1st to post, etc. Just as long as it is there for us to learn from. :)
i just had my eyebrows threaded for the 1st time 2 days ago, and now i have red bumps surrounding my eyebrows. i think my skin is too sensetive for threading
Hey great video I was just wondering, would you do it the same if you were going to pluck someone elses eyebrows or is there a different technique to it? thanks x
AWESOME tutorial. I just discovered "threading" for the first time today, and I have to say that the lady at the mall who did my eyebrows did an excellent job, I've never had them shaped so perfectly! The process is much quicker, virtually painless, and doesn't leave your skin red or irritated afterward.
If you haven't had this done before, then I definately recommend it.
OMG girl!! thanks sooo much!! well i have got my eyebrows threaded before by a professional and it hurt soo bad!! i was sitting here watching it and following the steps on my eyeborw w/out actually looking and then i was like ouch omg it works!!! :)
it helped alott. i juat tried it tonight on the top part of my eyebrow and it worked well:] exept it took me a while haha im still to slow. but ill practiice :]]
Just had my eyebrows threaded for the first time. It was wonderful! I can't use wax, just don't get on with the stuff. And plucking, ugh, plink, plink, plink, plink, every hair an individual little ouch!
With this, it's so fast! I'm determined to learn it for myself.
This tutorial is fantastic, I'm gonna practice on my leg (It's winter, i'm in trousers all the time heh) cos my mum wants it done too.
Great job! I'm going to try it. You make it look a lot easier than the lady at my mall. I'm still going to go to her for my brows but, I'll be able do maintenance throughout the month. Keep up the good work!
Thanks a lot!!! I was looking for a tutorial which explains how to do it!!! It was a veryyy good job... but one thing more... I've seen other people puting a thread in their mouth... What is it for? ...do you know? Thank you so much
thanks a million.! your video explained it very well, i have just tried to do my eye brows...and it worked! thank you for my new skill :) keep up the good work :)
thanks this video really helped....i have never tried this before and i went home and did it and it worked perfectly....my friend said that it kinda hurt though......thanks either way!!!!!
OMG...thank you SO MUCH. I've gotten my eyebrows threaded several times, but the threadist would always make them too thin AND the shape did not suit my face at ALL even though I asked them to try and make different shape, more like yours : ) I got it on the first try. THANKS SO MUCH!!!
Last question I promise lol do you thread in the direction of hair growth or the opposite? Like, when you tweeze, or wax you pull the hair out from the opposite direction. Does the same apply during threading as well?
I have another question. I've noticed some women are doing the threading, and it looks like they have thread in their mouths. How do you do it that way? And is there a difference from the way you do it and they do it?
Threading with your mouth is generally used when you do it on other people. That method cannot be used on yourself. It's a technique I'm still practicing and once I get it 100% I'll make a video on that.
Showed my mum this and it taught her how to do it! Thank you :D
KezzaKB 9 months ago
heyy,all , thankss hunni , now i don't have to go to the mall and get me hair done and thanks y'all xx
musiclover8866 10 months ago
i've gotten my eyeberows threaded like 3 times vs. maxing a million times lol
waxing is wayy less painful. However both give great results! (:
smgbby 11 months ago
hey, the thread is not pulling out any hairs. can you tell me how the thread pulls the hair off? i'm opening and closing my fingers, but it's still not pulling out the hairs with the bow tie knot.
sherrydy 1 year ago
bravo....well explained...
uittyman 1 year ago
Thanks a billiioon!!!.x
nishy0895 1 year ago
can it be a thin thread or does it have to be thick, for thicker hair???? Thank you! =D
mexifaith 1 year ago
Thanks this really works!!
collafulbutterfly 2 years ago
@mythang101 u gotta stretch skin to avoid that always better if sum1 doin it fa u or helping u otherwise skin can get caught in
asmaprincess 2 years ago
does this hurt alot!!!!!!!
iluvkawaiimakeup 2 years ago
hi i just ruined my right brow , but i removed hair from my face its glowing thank you. i will practice more
MISSHERMAN2007 2 years ago
does this work with guys too?
juanini80 2 years ago
Great explanation for how threading is done. Now I understand the scissoring motion of the hands and the opposite sides of the "knot" in the middle. Great video. Thanks!
gdcleanfun 2 years ago
OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH I wanted to learn this since years ago thanks again and ur english is so clear thats good because some people i cant understand what they r saying when they share cool stuff like this and I get frustrated...
ig941 2 years ago
wow great thanks for this
sligo34 2 years ago
yup, and when threading on someone else...you use more string and make an anchor from your mouth...kind of complicated to say here...but, it's using the same scissor method. =]
TheMsAnimeLover 2 years ago
thanx a lot =)
Maham6 2 years ago
Muchas gracias. Eres muy generosa
tuttigresa 2 years ago
Its better to have the knot in the thread on one side in your hand. =] At least it is for me...because when the thread twists the knot kind of stops it or gets tangled =/
killalettex3 2 years ago
I really liked the results when I got my eybrows threaded for the first time. So thanks to you now I can do it myself. Thanks!
Godsfavgirl 2 years ago
does this make ur hair grow back lower? jw
mizzyang89 2 years ago
haha im doing my legs!
brenda870 2 years ago
nice
paganizondav16 2 years ago
thank you soo much!!! it's pretty easy and it really works ;)
kat656 2 years ago
Right after i watched your video...i went into my sewing stuff and got out some thread and tried it...a lot simpler than i thought (still need practice) but im already starting to like this method. Thanks for the vid.
MoNkEyCaKeS85 2 years ago
you have to pull your skin tight i guess
indianhottie4ever 2 years ago
Thanks I hope this works!!!
LLLLLLE7 2 years ago
thank you for the video it helped alot thanks gurl!!!
Preet18 2 years ago
thx! it works =]
kaylab4u2 2 years ago
thank yoou so much.
loved it.
carolinemaliatemu 2 years ago
cool! =D it works ...!!! thnx!
eliexox24 2 years ago
this was great!
devilmaycry2nite 2 years ago
Thanks so much for this! The lady I've been going to do thread my facial hair has brought her price up to $20 ! (used to be 10..) and I go to her like every other week. anyway i was wondering, am i doing something wrong if my skin is sometimes being pulled when i thread myself?
like it literally just pulls my skin up
cuddlys34bubble 2 years ago
r u indian
peaceathome1234 2 years ago
OMG! I have never seen my face this clean without any unwanted hair in my life! Thank you for your video!
wenshufan 2 years ago
love ur finger nails, mine wont grow lol
makeupbygloria 2 years ago
wow i was following the instructions and was doing it step by step while u were speaking , it's the best technique ever thnx!!
shelliipelly 2 years ago
thanks : )
aniseforpeace 2 years ago
Wonder if it can pull the tiny hairs from the end of my nose
OghamTheBold 2 years ago
try holding the thread just a bit away from the skin-- don't rest it on your skin. Make the thread hover over it just a bit. You'll still catch the hair.
k1nky1nhels1nk1 2 years ago
Aww me too! :[
mschocolatte06 3 years ago
THANKS YA
Hollysyl 3 years ago
mwahhzxxx
itubetube96 3 years ago
Brilliant!!
Thank you, I am going to try it on my own now, instead of going to the Beauty Parla.
Thanks
Keke1980s 3 years ago
This is the best thing ever! I can't wait to change myself from a hairy jew to a non-hairy jew!
Cwulfekat 3 years ago 68
LMAO!!!
breebreezaa 2 years ago
@Cwulfekat hahahaha dude u made me smile. thanku
asmaprincess 2 years ago
Hey ! thanks
lopezpisces25 3 years ago 5
wow fankz a million man its reli helps alot
n8n818 3 years ago 3
Much less painful than waxing, because it only pulls the hair and not the skin itself.
XiaoGui17 3 years ago 4
It also doesn't burn the skin itself ;)
MinamikoSan 3 years ago
@XiaoGui17 I was just going to post the exact same thing :)
yolandazzzz 1 year ago
omg i cant thank u enough ty a million if there was a bigger word than thanx i would definatly use it omg you really dont know how much i apprecaited this
and like all the others said you are sooo beautiful wow i wish i could be like you lol :]
once again ty
jodino14ever 3 years ago 3
thank you so much.
chicagoatheart77 3 years ago
wow this actully works i just threaded some gurls mustache its hard work but worth it...
rickyj1031 3 years ago 3
whoa, i've never seen anyone do it to themselves, that's impressive. i've been getting my eyebrows threaded since i was 13-14 and i'm almost 22 now. i'm trying to convince my friend to go with me and showed her your video. =)
novayorker 3 years ago
Thank you so much for posting this!
shortcakes005 3 years ago
wow im trying that lol. thanx :)
SabiineOh 3 years ago
dude that was sooo helpful, im not confident enough to do my eyebrows yet though lol, but my upper lip and chin is awesome xoxoxox thaaaankyou!
kishbot 3 years ago
geez you have such natural beauty. I love your nails.. hair.. everything haha. I've been trying to grow my nails out that long for ever! I never succeed hahah
diamondfire90 3 years ago 5
omg
thanks for the help
chocolattetube 3 years ago
lol i hear ur accent and i love it haha
koolkatakari 3 years ago
Hey aside from this video, got caught up with your blog regarding the genocide out in Sri Lanka with the Tamils. Was in complete shock, I dont think I've heard of anything like that going on in Sri Lanka. It's a shame how we're all destroying ourselves...sorry didnt mean to get off your beauty topic..very helpful information on both the beauty video and in politics.
J711 3 years ago 4
Thank you for this. I've been wondering how to thread, and it looks sort of fun.
starmekitten 3 years ago
how u do the loop ?
lol thnx
Muhairi1 3 years ago
Get a length of thread and tie the ends together to make a loop.
Fidellio13 3 years ago
nice job. really easy but works.
karooma717 3 years ago
omg you are so gorgeous
arcadesfire 3 years ago 13
this is fantastic! i have always wondered how it worked. im going to try it right now (ahora mismo)
jamila43 3 years ago
wow...I a most def gonna try this today....I will try and post a response...thanks for sharing!
MsChanda 3 years ago
I got my eyebrows threaded at the mall and she was going so slow it hurt sooo bad!! I pluck my eyebrows and it doesn't hurt as bad as threading. Its cool how its done and i like the shape of my brow but it left scars above my eye. I 'm never getting my eyebrows threaded again.
SydneyTaylorA 3 years ago
That's because the person who did it didn't do it properly. Threading doesn't leave scars, regardless of how sensitive your skin is.
sajamathu 3 years ago 8
@sajamathu My thread keeps on breaking no matter what kind I use so I guess its me and I have to practice. I just wish you had showed a little better on how to hold it in my hands. Very good video though. ty
Saradmel1 1 year ago
omg!!! thank you so much. my cousin threaded mine and showed me how to do it. it looked so complicated. this is way easier. thanks:)))))))
kajalpatel456 3 years ago 2
Very helpful!!!
BratzMUA 3 years ago
wow thank you so much! =] now i just have to find my thread lol
EmilyPorterOfficial 3 years ago
I can't believe I finally understand this. Thanks so much!
joy2mtu 3 years ago 3
thank you girl!! i watched a different one and it was a bit hard but u explained very well
almasria14 3 years ago 2
FINALLY get it yuuuussss
Emilia4Scott2518 3 years ago
great video
lolipop2004 3 years ago
best video I've seen on eyebrow threading
berrlis 3 years ago
thank u so much!!!!!!!!!
Marluxiagirl45 3 years ago
thanx a very good demo. i finally figured it out on your tutorial. wtg
malicegirl82 3 years ago 2
heyy uhhh... cool video
i was wonderin if you could do the same with other facial hair??
imr3ally5tupid 3 years ago
yup!
sajamathu 3 years ago
hey! LOOOVE THIS! just wondered if u noticed the irony of how mny ppl r copyin ur threadin video n takin credit for it! i no tht this is ur own method becuz this is a very unknown method! but now its poppin out everywhere funny right:P
Watevs123 3 years ago 2
Lmao. Threading is an ancient art so it's been around for a while. No credit is due to me. And plus, when you make a video for youtube, it's meant for others to experience and try it out too! So don't worry to much about it! :)
sajamathu 3 years ago 8
Actual there are threading videos that go back further than the date this was posted. I think it does not make a difference who was the 1st to post, etc. Just as long as it is there for us to learn from. :)
NappyMACDiva3 3 years ago
hey does it hurt alot?
Gunther81818 3 years ago
i thread my eyelashes. WOOO!
iBrando89 3 years ago
LOL
sajamathu 3 years ago
i just had my eyebrows threaded for the 1st time 2 days ago, and now i have red bumps surrounding my eyebrows. i think my skin is too sensetive for threading
retrogurl419 3 years ago
thanx thats kool
samnhollyproductionz 3 years ago
Thanks so much for the great video.
GaaranoJo 3 years ago
Hey great video I was just wondering, would you do it the same if you were going to pluck someone elses eyebrows or is there a different technique to it? thanks x
HoneySweetLotus 3 years ago
Same technique can be applied.
sajamathu 3 years ago
AWESOME tutorial. I just discovered "threading" for the first time today, and I have to say that the lady at the mall who did my eyebrows did an excellent job, I've never had them shaped so perfectly! The process is much quicker, virtually painless, and doesn't leave your skin red or irritated afterward.
If you haven't had this done before, then I definately recommend it.
csdyer46158 3 years ago
heya salam/namaste
your tutorial was really helpfull for me !
Thx.
But i have got a personnal question : whats ur age ?
i am surprised u look too young and you are very very talented !!
sweetlady0092 3 years ago
u did veery good at demonstratin it 2 us
thanks alot :T
LuvlyJStaR94 3 years ago
OMG girl!! thanks sooo much!! well i have got my eyebrows threaded before by a professional and it hurt soo bad!! i was sitting here watching it and following the steps on my eyeborw w/out actually looking and then i was like ouch omg it works!!! :)
PaliPrincess08 3 years ago
exactly WHAT I NEEDED.....thank you o gorgeous one.
BichGODDESS 3 years ago 2
haha thank you! :P
sajamathu 3 years ago
omgg thanks for this tutorial :]]
it helped alott. i juat tried it tonight on the top part of my eyebrow and it worked well:] exept it took me a while haha im still to slow. but ill practiice :]]
girlhaloplayer 3 years ago
Just had my eyebrows threaded for the first time. It was wonderful! I can't use wax, just don't get on with the stuff. And plucking, ugh, plink, plink, plink, plink, every hair an individual little ouch!
With this, it's so fast! I'm determined to learn it for myself.
This tutorial is fantastic, I'm gonna practice on my leg (It's winter, i'm in trousers all the time heh) cos my mum wants it done too.
PepperPhoenix 3 years ago
great video thanx!
can u do it on urself tho?i think that might make it a little clearer....?
sweetdewdrops226 3 years ago
haha ok thanks:P
DarlingKaya 3 years ago
i cant do my left side :S
this is very difficult but i did it with floss .. does that maby not work haha??
DarlingKaya 3 years ago
Yeeah, I think you might want to try cotton thread :P
sajamathu 3 years ago
Great job! I'm going to try it. You make it look a lot easier than the lady at my mall. I'm still going to go to her for my brows but, I'll be able do maintenance throughout the month. Keep up the good work!
msivorynarvell 3 years ago
sure
sajamathu 3 years ago
Thanks for this tutorial. I tried it and it works great! :D
SilentStickFigureThr 3 years ago
What about threading upper lip hair?
Willowfeather 3 years ago
same method can be applied
sajamathu 3 years ago
Yeah you can, it works for pretty much any hair you need removed.
csdyer46158 3 years ago
thx.
iamsiau 3 years ago
hey thanx for the video...um does the hair grow back thicker?
kellylova555 3 years ago
nope
sajamathu 3 years ago
Thanks so much
habibiyaeini2 3 years ago
I LOVE YOU!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!!
But from what i have seen other people do is that they put the thread in their mouth and do somthing with the hands? what do they do?
AisuTatsuro 3 years ago
you can't use that method on yourself. that method is commonly used when threading other peoples brows.
sajamathu 3 years ago
you did a great job, thank you.
connerbark 3 years ago
thank you !!!
IDzy 3 years ago
iloveyou.
iloveyou.
iloveyou.
XD
you're awesome.
JoBromanc3 3 years ago 4
lmao thank you :P
sajamathu 3 years ago
I totally learned how to do this from watching your video. AWESOME! Just think of how much money I am gonna save - I'm so excited :-D
melantha71 3 years ago
wow thanks alot u are very good at teaching how to thread im real good at it now..... thanks :)
flyygirl564 3 years ago
thank you dear
JENANfan1 3 years ago
hey I used to have that dresser with the mirror, lol hurts when you bump into the handles LMAO, but nonetheless GREAT VID!
SimsimmaSimsimma 3 years ago
The person who does my eyebrows, Does it with her teeth she put the string in her Teeth I just want to know what is this all about.
DeJaii 3 years ago
Thanks a lot!!! I was looking for a tutorial which explains how to do it!!! It was a veryyy good job... but one thing more... I've seen other people puting a thread in their mouth... What is it for? ...do you know? Thank you so much
LizzethDz 3 years ago
You're a good teacher, that was interesting. Thanks
pa2casa 3 years ago 3
I just tried it.... OUCH... it worked though. Good job!
AnitaGuusen 3 years ago
Smart girl,Excellent!
ARIANEACK 3 years ago
thanks a million.! your video explained it very well, i have just tried to do my eye brows...and it worked! thank you for my new skill :) keep up the good work :)
natalie6666 3 years ago
i tried but cant get it....can u do a tutorial of u threading ur eyebrows?
nygrl119 3 years ago 3
thank you!
Sonilore2002 3 years ago
thanks for the tips!
alkanye 3 years ago
oh wow u did a awesome job=]
clarissa11rainbow 3 years ago
Cotton thread works best.
sajamathu 3 years ago
this is awesome!
& don't worry! you did a great job!
thank you so much!
autumnDONG 3 years ago 2
Thanks sooooooo much for the Video. I have been wanting to learn how to thread my own eyebrows.
I took my step daughther to have hers done two weeks ago for the first time. she loved the results because waxing irritates her skin.
I will be sending your video link to her.
Thanks!!!!!
crileyhome 3 years ago
AHHH! I love you! THANKS! <3 <3 :D !!
ohglamour 3 years ago
this was a really good vid.
i got the technique down in an instant.
and i must say it wasnt that painful at all.
the only painful part was the thread it cut into my skin on my pinky.
but all in all.
it was a great editorial.
i learned it way fast.
BB415 3 years ago
ur cool.
LiaTheShySinger 3 years ago
nice , never thought og doing it that way. i do it differently ..
but i guess it's kind of the persian way i do it.
Lavassanii 3 years ago
Thanks :)
That really helped. My friend threads my upper lip for me, doesn't hurt much.
Is it okay to thread the side of the face (sideburns)? If it is, do you do it the same way as the upper lip + eyebrows?
I must be the child of a monkey!
Great vid.
Jessii047 3 years ago
you can thread like this for anything.
sajamathu 3 years ago
thank you very much! =]
bollywoodprincess001 3 years ago
oh thankx for that
can you plz show how to thread upper lip hair plzzzzzzzz
mine is sooooooo visible thank you!
bollywoodprincess001 3 years ago
you can use the same method.
sajamathu 3 years ago
i have never seen how to do it on your self
thanks a lot for this
iDonTliKEyOurToN3 3 years ago
im indian 2
minipartyfridaynight 3 years ago
sweet.
i'm gonna try this :)
xoxorita 3 years ago
I wasn't quite sure what loop to put it in
BunnyPro 3 years ago
either one.
sajamathu 3 years ago
really helpful thanks!
tweeetie55 3 years ago
oh very thankful thanks!!!!
ralfyboy1030 3 years ago
"Funky dorey"! Cute! Maybe I'll practice on my husband first.
sacbeav 3 years ago
thanks this video really helped....i have never tried this before and i went home and did it and it worked perfectly....my friend said that it kinda hurt though......thanks either way!!!!!
jasmkennedy 3 years ago
fankzz for your helpfull video im gna keep practersicing n hopefully be as good as yoy XD
xxHannaxx111 3 years ago 2
lol i tried this and only took one hair out
xxHannaxx111 3 years ago
Keep practicing :)
sajamathu 3 years ago
OMG...thank you SO MUCH. I've gotten my eyebrows threaded several times, but the threadist would always make them too thin AND the shape did not suit my face at ALL even though I asked them to try and make different shape, more like yours : ) I got it on the first try. THANKS SO MUCH!!!
xuanmp 3 years ago
very very help full!! i got it on my 2nd try thank you
zappydoda 3 years ago
This sounds cool, I think I'm gonna go try it.
SilentPinkBunny 3 years ago
gahh! so i kkno how to thread, but i CANT thread MY OWN eyebrowss =/ haha, im scared to mess up my eyebrows..but great vid :)
ilovemyhector 3 years ago
Last question I promise lol do you thread in the direction of hair growth or the opposite? Like, when you tweeze, or wax you pull the hair out from the opposite direction. Does the same apply during threading as well?
Sxxxynoelle 3 years ago
Same rules. You don't want your hair growing in a odd position.
sajamathu 3 years ago
I have another question. I've noticed some women are doing the threading, and it looks like they have thread in their mouths. How do you do it that way? And is there a difference from the way you do it and they do it?
Sxxxynoelle 3 years ago
Threading with your mouth is generally used when you do it on other people. That method cannot be used on yourself. It's a technique I'm still practicing and once I get it 100% I'll make a video on that.
sajamathu 3 years ago
hey! thanx for the guidance! initially i couldn't get it, but after 2 tries, then i got it!
crapacts 3 years ago
It is less painful and takes much practice. I was able to get a few hairs but I practicing a little each day.
GooGoo32 3 years ago
I got it..thank you =)
rahal333 3 years ago
thanks! Its a good enough tutorial to try and learn.
GooGoo32 3 years ago
thank youuuuuuuuuu
eraeara 3 years ago