Rex Murphy - Canadian Science Minister (22 minutes)

[Cole0091261]

ghandi would probably be a good secretary of defence

[GeneralDomination]

@alxcookie Well that's another story. I agree that one should learn about other people's theories even if they don't agree with them. I've studied a fair bit into evolutionary theories and they're actually very diverse depending who you talk to. However the context of the messages I've mostly seen seems to suggest that simply because he doesn't agree with the theory of evolution makes him an idiot. That is simply illogical.

[Johnalexgray]

Rex Murphy is actually funny mmmm-k

[GeneralDomination]

saying a creationist is to a science minister what a pacifist is to defense minister is assuming you're right. Science has seen many once very popular theories and even laws shatter. Even if currently there is lots of evidence to support evolution that doesn't mean it is infallible. Einstein was creationist, in fact many brilliant inventors and scientists were creationists. There were also brilliant evolutionists. So is it not possible that he can be right for the job and not evolutionist?

[Balian49]

@GeneralDomination

Einstein was NOT a creationist. You cannot fall back on the belief that it "might" be wrong. The theory of gravity "might" be wrong! The religious views of past scientists is irrelevant. What matters is scientific consensus NOW. You cannot be the science minister and have a non opinion on the most important theory in science. People do not reject evolution because they can't find evidence for it. They reject it because they already believe something else.

[GeneralDomination]

@Balian49 Einstein makes constant references throughout his life to the creator and in fact calls the creator God on several occasions.

"I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details."

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind."

Here are a few quotes from him. These just a few of the ones that were recorded. And the scientific consensus NOW is uncertain. Debates still flair up over creationism vs evolutionis with victories on both sides.

[GeneralDomination]

@Balian49 And that last bit about people rejecting evolution because of prior beliefs works both ways. Btw even Richard Dawkins the proud face of modern evolutionist debate teams admits that there is at least the illusion of a creator's fingerprint in living things.  Of course he uses the word illusion to dismiss the possibility that he hasn't been right all along.

[Rhys17]

Our minister of science.. is a creationist.. I didn't know we even had those morons up here.

[Davebjj]

I bet Harper is a creationist.

What is Wrong with people!! did he skip biology class.

please get these people out of office.

Our government is corrupt and tainted with brainwashed religious bs

[toelesshoe]

Mark does a great impersonation, and his satire is thought provocing. I think when a person's religion is antithetical to science, he will not act in the best interest of our society.

[Balian49]

We have a creationist science minister? Are you fucking kidding me???

[Beliserius1]

i hope i am, but im not.

[leslea001]

@Balian49 if only it weren't true... But it is.

[GeneralDomination]

@Balian49 I think it's a good balanceing weight to have someone who's creationist in a high position in the National science community. It means that it will help nutralize bias about that belief. You can debate til the cows come home that evolution is concrete solid. I'm pretty sure most ancient peoples would have debated just as hard that the world was flat or that man could never fly or that matter was made up of a substance that could be cut in half infinite times.

[GeneralDomination]

@Balian49 Science is like a light that is constantly getting brighter and we are in a large dark room. In ancient times the light was probably putting out 1/2 candle light. Now it is putting out around 100-200 candlelight but this still only illuminates a small corner of the room. Think of all the things we still know so little about. We don't really have solid evidence atoms even exist. All human knowledge is fallible no matter how solid it may seem. Less bias means more efficiency.

[Balian49]

@GeneralDomination

No. You can't try to justify this with some pseudo philosophy. I guess we should have an atheist Bishop in the Vatican to "nutralize" things there too eh? Evolution is the basis for almost all modern science. It is not about a balancing act between fact and bullshit. To place somebody like that in government, MUCH LESS THE PERSON WHO CONTROLS SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH IN CANADA, is an insult to science, and an insult to people like me who pay taxes are not delusional about reality.

[GeneralDomination]

@Balian49 Is this a free country? Are we allowed an opinion? Are we allowed equal rights? I am not argueing against evolution. You don't even know if he is creationist he chose to be anonymous so as to not be bias. And evolution is not the basis for much modern science. It is the basis of a few very new theories still in the testing stages. And the Vatican is a religious organization whose beliefs are not aethiest. Science last I checked was a method of learning not a belief system.

[Balian49]

@GeneralDomination

This has nothing to do with having the "right to an opinion". It is about selecting someone for a government position who is best suited for that position. Like the video says, we don't have a pacifist as our defense minister, because their beliefs would adversely impact their performance. So, having a science minister who has a fundamental skepticism, and lack of respect, of science, is ridiculous.

And you are obviously skeptical of evolution. Good luck with that...

[replicator666]

lol, 22 minutes FTW

rofl, pope is more evolved!