Grind Time Now Presents: Rheteric vs Dutch Vega pt.1

[NUKEViCTiM]

Homie has a black flag shirt on, ftw

[15rainman15]

Die Sara Kana die

[TheSuckaPuncha]

Dutch is fucking trash

[MrFatalBeast]

Dutch Vega's new single - I have no gag reflex

[MrPoliticalScientist]

@MrFatalBeast- Muhuhahahahaha!!!! That comment literally made me laugh out loud! Thank you for that!

[MurphGiovanni]

@MrPoliticalScientist you laughed out loud at his comment? he said "how did dutch win, then lose, then do good and lose...step ya game up dutch"...that's funny?...nothing personal...i am sure you a gentle little mousepad mobber..but i can't stand your youtube name...mr political scientist? really dude...why not just change it to "i'm a faggot who went to a state school" because that is what it screams...i would love to fart in a pillowcase and then hold it over your grandpa's dome, no offense

[MrPoliticalScientist]

@MurphGiovanni- You need a hobby and an education faggot. I think you should read the comment that I replied to again because you only made yourself look stupid by replying to the wrong comment you fucking clown. As for my name, I could care fucking less what some faggot named "MurphGiovanni" says! I mean really? You're commenting on someone else's name? Hahaha that's fucking hilarious. Don't be mad that I have a Phd and you've failed to graduate high school. Jealousy is tough I know.

[MurphGiovanni]

@MrPoliticalScientist lol excuse me poli sci? the expression is "couldn't care less"...lol saying that you "could care less" implies that you do care to come degree...lol then you got to a point where you had to prove your worth to me by throwing out some credentials that obviously can't be proved...trust me, man...i am better than you in every way...THAT is why you got so sensitive...LOL again at "mr political scientist"...be honest, you thought that shit sounded cool, huh retard?

[adob0streak]

6:20 how are you gonna rep BX without rhyming in the first round

[1nDoSmOk31]

Lyrical class? -my ass Dutch Vega Suks COCKZ

[XxandthencamethenxX]

i hate sara kana. she needs to go somewhere

[deepfriedtnecks]

Dutch from the intro:"I am a very good MC." U lying muthafucka lmao

[stylezNout]

damn how was this a main event

[EsotericOccultist]

Why cant the little oompa loompa dyke midgit find a hat that fits? She looks like a fucking little kid with her sloppy ass oversized hats. Its looks like when a pro baseball player put his hat on a 5 year old cancer patient. Shes making hip hop look retarded, no wonder people are dissing the scene...fuckin wack man. Wear a hat that fits bitch...you do not look cool, you do not look hard, you look like a fucking moron.

[WyteNikesNLazerLitez]

lol shout out to jesus!!!! word

[catseatingclouds]

@nuckinfuts32330 no prob, haha, didn't mean to sound like a dick if i did.

[catseatingclouds]

@nuckinfuts32330 sher khan is from the jungle book, you silly nigga.

[k0edbuddy]

that nigga is fkcccn faddded in the begginging

[flashmanwade]

dat nigga dutch gap is a mile WIDE!!

[catseatingclouds]

dutch vega has the biggest gap tooth i've ever seen. he could seriously fit another tooth in there. so harsh.

[GetThatDoughBoy81]

Yo, I miss hearin this intro track...This bad blood intro track was FIRE.

[Roger61571]

That Foo Dutch Made The Eastcoast look like total shit!

[jaskamal]

rhet with the black flag shirt, hell yeh. 

[GetThatDoughBoy81]

Wow, yeah, Dutch Vega does suck horribly...

[GetThatDoughBoy81]

I have a feeling Vega's probably a good rapper. He shoulda been prepared, i think he was just tryin to freestyle..This battle made him look bad.

[getalifesoon]

@GetThatDoughBoy81 no he sucks in general

[NoSoulTv]

i dont care much for dutch vega not tryna hate

[MurphGiovanni]

such awkward silence after dutch's bars

[lilcee1]

Is this Rheteric, as in Nocando and Rheteric? Damn he looks bigger.

[AAAA1213BBBB]

@lilcee1 He still sucks though LOL

[lilcee1]

@AAAA1213BBBB Lol i kno right.

[rapsody]

@AAAA1213BBBB

not nearly as bad as you suck at making user names.

[AAAA1213BBBB]

@rapsody At least mines original lol

[rapsody]

@AAAA1213BBBB

If that's what you gotta tell yourself. I'd rather be unoriginal than pointless anyway.

[pronedaddy]

Ramirez is wasted as fuuuuuuuuck!

[onemanarmyasonrip210]

I Think I'll Skip on Prt 2.

[FabioFFS1]

whats the name of that beat at the very beggining???

[lawwww]

@FabioFFS1 it's called 10:20

[POP7TANGO]

these nuckas talkin dutch is whack,yo he gives you as a listener sum life in his apperence,style that other cali cat he faced was fuckin pathetic...he had a lisp or dick in his throat n looked soft as cotton....big up da bx

[MurphGiovanni]

@POP7TANGO he has life in his appearance? lol what? you seem like one of those people who say stupid shit that only makes sense to one person:  YOU. dutch got all loud and tried to accentuate his punches only to be greeted with a couple light courteousy laughs from fellow new yorkers...don't get me wrong...dutch vega seems like a good person, but he sucks at rap...and you seem like a pretty nice homosexual, but your opinion is totally asinine...rhet styled on dutch, easy...end of analysis

[getalifesoon]

@POP7TANGO he sucks balls. he makes the bx look bad. so does sara kana.

[jfontana88]

i was busting up at the "aw aint that sweet bitch" at 8:25

[xEVANNx]

if they cut all of Dutch's rounds out of this video, it'd make for way more views.

[MrFatalBeast]

how does Dutch win a battle... lose a battle... be good then lose a battle (he did try, so did knowledge medina) then he loses another battle... DUTCH STEP YA GAME UP

[rico010589]

ChuBoyCasper--------- has 2 has 2 has2 take extasy,speed,crack,n any other pill thta makes u think vega is good (street fighter name)? wack

[rico010589]

dirt bag vs rheteric would b better

[skopered]

@rico010589 that would be dope

[pandaboi56]

dutch vega looks like a hillbilly hollow da don

[acdoubleu]

Rreteric is funny as hell. Dutch sucked second round, got no crowd response in his own town.

[TeflonMaster]

did dutch vega say a single thing that rhymed

[JohnDozierKIA]

dutch vegas name is stupid as shit. dutch master and garcia vega combined to one?? psssh. and sarah kana is a waste of life. take that bitch out of GT's camera

[xEVANNx]

hahahahaah Vega is so bad holy fucking shit.

[ChuBoyCasper]

dutch vega is the sickest rapper ever. on some real shit i think he right in there with big and pac. i mean he got some dope delivery, his wordplay is fucken top shit and his gap is sexy as hell. lil wayne aint got shit on dutch vega

[getalifesoon]

@ChuBoyCasper lol

[crazykillah911]

what is rheteric on

[JamieKusick]

stupid ass rheteric, always throwing up the LA backwards.... he's still way better than sutch tho lol

[CityStarsDl]

rheteric is drunk, fucked up, and still bodied this nigguh with smooth bars

[thatmiamigangsta]

Yo rheteric and dutch both dont say shit the whole time...hold up hold up real quick world WTF?? r u serious right now? This is a disrespect to hip-hop...just imagine what the real media would say about this...take this battle down and awhole bunch of others....its a huge disrespect to hip-hop...ppl would seriously laugh at these dudes

[3ckoboy72]

@thatmiamigangsta im laughing at you because you obviously dont know real hip hop. hip-hop extends to alot. this is comedy shit, and if u take it seriously ur just stupid. this is hip hop, UNDERGROUND SHIT the media cant get in this because its the MEDIA THAT IS FUCKING UP HIP HOP NOT THIS, so u need to shut the fuck up foreal

[MrAlexcole123]

haha rhet is seriously all fucked up in this one. this is the prototype for a champ.

[SmooveLikeButter10]

rhet was mad drunk this battle. this is why it was his worst.

[getalifesoon]

@SmooveLikeButter10 this was his best battle ever imo. getting drunk makes him dope as fuck.

[tarbash995]

@N1GNEEDAC1G

haha cum-guzzling fruitcake.

nice

[campKILLer]

All i know of rhet is when he totally blew the WRC battle with NoCan against The Saurus and ill mac. He was garbage.

[tarbash995]

@campKILLer

He wasn't garbage. He went above heads a lot.

[lilrizq]

@N1GNEEDAC1G faggot, -itch, fruitcake huh? a lil homophobic are we, you guys are usually the ones that are gay. and your response sounds ignorant... proving that my theory about you is correct.

p.s. you woundn't say none of that to nobody's face so shut that sh-- up my nig.

[chuckzilla12]

really this battle was shit Rhet didnt come hard like everyone vvv down their said

but he did win

[tarbash995]

@chuckzilla12

Rhet came HARD.

what battle were u watching?

Did u hear his first round?

[chuckzilla12]

@tarbash995

really one of Rhets worst battles

no rythem few rhymes and very average

and what Rhet usually brings to knock people out Wit and Poetic ability was lacking

[tarbash995]

@chuckzilla12

Seriously? I dunno, it was pretty good.

His best battle ever in GT. Like i said, the first round. Listen to it again.

[chuckzilla12]

@tarbash995

im sorry im just 100% sure his Lund battle was way better and much more consistant

[tarbash995]

@chuckzilla12

I am sorry, but you are incorrect.

[chuckzilla12]

@tarbash995 well look beacuse just as many people agree with me if not more see vvv

[tarbash995]

@chuckzilla12

Sorry. You're still incorrect. Other people might agree with you, but I'm Tarbash, damn it!

[tarbash995]

@chuckzilla12

...and what about that DNA concept???

[lilrizq]

@N1GNEEDAC1G if you record this battle on tape, and listen to it in fast forward... then you will see that everything rhet is saying rhymes. your mind is just not that advance yet to catch his set ups and punchlines.

[skadubstylee]

one of my favorite rhet battles.

[swisstopher]

rheteric is rheteric. he's as off the wall as they get

[jAYis1337]

Dutch Vega is fucking WHACK

[lawwww]

thumb up for dat

[theace653]

rhetheric west coast represent. bring it to Flo on the iphone.

[felony077]

shout out to Jesus ! .. hahaha funny battle

[Stackman20]

Dude this whole battle is fucking horrible. I can't tell if it's written or freestyled, but for both their sakes i hope its freestyle especially dutch vega. He didnt have a single decent punchline or rhyme scheme the whole time. Whack fuckin shit

[KronicDaDon]

i like rheteric's style funny as fuck

[5mithNwe55on]

can't wait for rheteric and tiger ty video to drop. gonna be the funniest shit ever

[roumanobr]

the dutch, the vega, the dutch, the vega, thedutch, the vega...another crakhead on grindtime...I wana see dutch vega VS Profit, top 2 crackheads in GT.

[SofaKingAwesome23]

rhet raps so slow

[AlphaQSilly]

Rheteric switched his style up and is weird as fuck.

[ryan431]

rheteric is soo drunk haha

[abes1]

Rheteric is on some next level shit. props.

[Wobbothe3rd]

It's sad that people are so stupid that they can't understand how brilliant rhetoric was ... the exact same people would cheer for the most retarded cliche bullshit... the same people probably don't even understand what a cliche is

[britentry]

YAWN. What a BORING battle. Both are rubbish. The second round by Rheteric was so weird, I am baffled that Vega made no comment about it and just went straight into his written verse. LOL.

Crap.

[malcolmxbox]

dutch vega is weak as fuck

[visualkei72]

Rheteric is a genius.

[Abernier3]

rheteric is a genius? lol thats the first time i've ever heard that

[kijishiroukasen]

Dutch Vega got the "Papi Puto" from when Rheteric called L Scatterbrain a Papi Puto before the battle. I just caught that, lmao.

[OfficialLilBaby]

dutch vega

teeth is fuqk'd up

[DAngelou]

ay shoutouts to Jesus

[xlyesterdaylx]

damn this shit sucked. I want my 10 minute back.

[JumpOffBiggSean]

i agree homie LMAO after about 5 minutes of this i was "why am i still watching this CRAP!!!!" lol

dutch vega NEEDS TO STOP PLEASE and the other dude is just boring as hell!

[kijishiroukasen]

I agree Vega, you're important.. What battle League would be complete without their own version of D. Wiggins?

LMAO

[GunStreets]

05:58

look at rhereric's face rofl

*im fucking appalled*

[khi24]

this nigga at tha beginnin look like a bummy ass malcom x

[jdot2hott]

wow this was absolutely terrible...

[tonymo9995]

this was god awful from both sides.....rone all day!!!

[manap3000]

shoutout to jesus ahaha

[manap3000]

i though rheterics first round was dope

the rest of the battle from both sides was downhill from there

[proni1]

booooooooooooooooooooooooooooo­oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo­oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo­oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo­oooooo

[TR1Iceman]

I'm not gonna sugarcoat it like the judges did. This battle was awful.

Vega, I am disappoint.

[ginjuice91107]

CA--ALLLLDDAAYY

[bombardsquads]

cant watch any more of this.. rheteric takes like 30sec to get one punch out this his fuckin sleep flow. atleast hes not as whack as in the wrc's

[hihihi337]

Winner: Nobody

Loser: Us viewers for wasting our time

[MVD4MVP]

agreed. lol

[bigdaddytorr1]

This battle sucked

[Polarity867]

Rheteric looks like he smoked 2 ounces or shot some heroin. he can barely open his eyes and sounds lethargic.

[fresh33333]

dutch looks like hollow the dons twin brother minus the gap teeth

[Wobbothe3rd]

Read the comments, most agree that he was funny and say that he won the battle.

[Wobbothe3rd]

Rhetoric was fantastic in this battle, but of course as usual you are trolling.

i think you an Gunstreets are secretly in competition for who can get the most "Thumbs down" on their youtube comments

[whatsupcuz1]

I laughed when i saw that. I think he isn't as bad as gunstreets.

[Wobbothe3rd]

He used to be MUCH worse, if you look at the old scribble battles on youtube in the comments section he would say weird gay stuff, you could tell he was just trying to get a reaction. Might have been a alias though, because there were several different version of "Nigganeedacig"

[whatsupcuz1]

Oh lol i just know gunstreets on grindtime does it pretty bad but i barely see him talk. Then again I don't look for it or care sooo really doesn't matter lol.

[Wobbothe3rd]

@whatsupcuz1 discussing the battles is half the fun, at least to me.

[whatsupcuz1]

Yea but really discussing most the time isn't discussing. It's I like him if you don't then you're wrong with most of these people.

[bombardsquads]

lol both of these guys were far from fantastic.. what battle were you watching

[sublizzel]

dutch vega is that crackhead Bling Bling from Bumfights. He sucks. Talking about no flow, with no flow. how ironic.

[kyokushinkid420]

Dutch Vega is cocky ass fuck in the interview but he gets his ass handed to him...I'll kickflip the gap in his teeth!

[tk7kyle]

LOL

[Egon420]

I don't think one of vega's bars in the first round even rhymed... the second verse was almost as weak too.

[smexiness]

kinda weird that rheteric is main event

[visualkei72]

wow! vega got blasted.

Rheteric is one creative mofo, and never fails to entertain with his nonchalant verse style.

[malcolmxbox]

agh dutch vegas first verse was weak

[Zane394]

vega sucks ass

[STiTypeUK]

sum1 plz tell sara to gtfo of the shot..... or have sum1 tall stand infront of her

[dworkx1]

Vega and hollow should battle over whos the real denenenon!

[Dinka650]

rheteric look tucked as hell

[getalifesoon]

I get your point but I do find Rheteric very entertaining and amusing. Of course he couldnt compete with the top tier cats like Madness, DFD, DNA, Diz, etc.

Its just sad that most people just don't get him and simply label him as wack because his mind obviously works differently. Especially the ones that judge his shit based on WRC07.

Claiming to be better than some wack cat on youtube is easy. Proving it infront of a crowd is different story.

[kijishiroukasen]

I agree with everything except one point you made about the top tier cats because I'm almost sure Rheteric would take down DNA because he's not that hot. Outside of NY, he'd look even worse.

But on to the real point. People do label Rhet as wack because his mind works different. It's like the punchline comes before the set-up. But he's hilarious. You can spit as lyrical as you want to, but if you can't draw the crowd to you and entertain, it doesn't mean jack shit. No one likes a boring rapper.

[TheSagesDog]

he is high as fuck

[kijishiroukasen]

dudes drunk lol

[Sandubee]

this man is high as shit haha

[ZongerCloud]

fuck that manly hoe in the back using the stopwatch i wanna baash her face in with a bat!

[geniewiz]

lol y do ppl hate on sara kana so much? i don't get it

[someperson111]

she's dumb ugly. Basically that's it

[jamill212]

OMFG dutch vega is the worst fucking dickhead rapping WTF was that im FUCKING TIGHT!!!

[xEVANNx]

sara kana get the fuck out!

[casual36]

Rheteric looks wasted!

[mistacoolpantz]

that niggah young bugz looks like he wants to kill Rheteric lmaoo

[bknewstash]

dutch vega is one fo the worst rappers ive ever heard on grind time.He should quit.he didnt even rhyme.wtf.letting NY down.How dare he use the word "lyrical" when he aint have 1 hot bar

[TyranoBas]

rheteric sick! he makes dope music too i just heard it because of this battle. hes ill!

[MurphGiovanni]

lol, yes, this was a wack battle...those fools need to find a new hobby

i didn't enjoy a single punchline.....only thing that was mildly entertaining was that rhet was silly drunk

[getalifesoon]

Get over the WRC07 already.

Go to GT and do it better.

Then talk.

[cyborgdata]

wrc two years were sick, i liked them better then grindtimes shit, real freestyle shit. not writtens.

[Benrichbra]

is it me or does dutch vega look like a weaslier hollow da don?

[chessdawgz]

More like a weaslier D. Wiggins, which is what Rhet was gettin' at

[electrodinobot]

dang not sure if it was the dead crowd or the rappers but this kinda sucked

[CapZ13]

lmao shout out to jesus

[electrodinobot]

sup with the intros...just start the battle

[TheRapResurrection]

OMG rheteric??Lol he really fucked nocan in the WRC. He has some fucking funny punchlines tho.

[Mizbee93]

summary of this battle. Dutch Vega the one guy to make Rheteric look good

[111HYPE111]

dutch vega has horrible rhymes

[LEXIIBBBY]

L.A niggas rule u ny niggas im so lucky im from west bc is there niggas like dutch in da east ill emilty move dumb craks like him

[coleslizzy]

nigga u work at Quiznos...how about u stop commenting on rap battle videos and get ready for the night shift nigga

[GiLLMaTicZz]

im normally not a fan of retheric but he did pretty good

[TrueDarkSavior]

Rheteric really needs to get something other than swagger. This is easy enough to call...no one wins, both of these are horrible rounds.

This is the main event? rhet looks like dumbfoundead his eyes are that fuckin' squinted.

[poloneffect]

Ill BITE both they heads OFF!! PLex put me in that ring famo...the people need to be impressed not depressed

[rcronico]

lol "impressed not depressed"

true that

[APlayaProduction]

does anyone realize Rheteric did the LA sign wrong ....

[donanfer10]

Rheteric is the most overrated dude in gt circuit.