I want to start off by saying that I am not attacking you with this post. I simply want to make something clear. Atheism is not a belief system as you claim, nor is it a wall. Atheism is the lack of belief in supernatural claims, due to a lack of valid evidence that supports these claims. He is not saying "god doesn't exist and I a can prove it to you!!" as would any other true atheist. He simply does not see any valid evidence for the existence of God.
3:25 "Well, the universe isn't finely tuned, you have no evidence that Jesus existed, and near-death-experiences are hooey!"
The caller makes a valid point right there, Matt speaks with such certainty that what his atheism has actually become is a wall of close-mindedness where any idea that doesn't align with his belief system is automatically rejected through his own reductionist rationalism. We're learning more about NDEs and their involvement with DMT. DMT, which TAE has never addressed!
I don't like the way he talks to the caller even though I'm an atheist too. I think when someone like this guy bothers to pick up the phone and is capable of having a decent conversation over the matter, he should be treated as nice as possible. Rude treatment will only worsen the atheists reputation.
Dear Christians, If you will ask evidence and proof of big bang and evolution theory from atheists, they will never provide any. But will call you idiot, abuse, delusion, uneducated etc. If any of them would be good atheist, will advise you to read books, search in Internet or educate ourself. But question will always remain same. So I have no doubt that Atheists also believing in some thing blindly which is worse than blindly believing in GOD.
Who's dumber--this guy or that Mark dude from the Austin church (i think his name was Mark, anyway). I really feel bad when people this dumb don't realize they're dumb and try to take the fight to this level. I just can't handle it.
Who's dumber--this guy or that Mark dude from the Austin church (i think his name was Mark, anyway). I really feel bad when people this dumb don't realize they're dumb and try to take the fight to this level. I just can't handle it.
That fat moron does believe in miracles he believes mossad were there setting up cameras to film 9 11 and did not know the event would happen a miracle indeed. Google this you will find all the main athiests are in fact zionist shills do not let them decieve you. Please look into the way they deal with people exposing the jewish involvment on 9 11 now a documented FACT
@MultiShampain No matter what Matt Dillahunty's belief about the horrible 9-11 attacks, that has nothing to do with a lack of belief in any god claim. I am an atheist and that has nothing to do with Israel, 9-11, or the price of tea in China. I am an atheist because I find no god claim I have been presented with so far compelling.I do not believe in Spiderman because I have not been shown any compelling evidence for his existence.Same thing.
@7A35 The I have a question why do the celeb athiests ask you to question everything and search for evidence and when you do ridicule people as conspiracy theorists. Hitchins was another spreading lies about Iran claiming to want to wipe Israel a man with his IQ knows what was really said. So my question why do celeb athiests always turn out to be decietful liars and delib misleed people
@Ragnarockalypse Do you actually want to claim that mossad agents were not captured lets get you to make a denial statment here in writing so I can expose you as a dummy having views with a position of ignorance
@Ragnarockalypse I am not calling you black I have no idea what ethnic origins you have lol but I am calling you a fool as you need to look into topics before forming opinion
@MultiShampain Not ethnicity. The pot, which is black, calls the kettle, which is black, black. You call me a fool. That makes you a hypocrite. The poetic part is that it stands true regardless of wether I really am a fool or not.
Good luck trying to convince anyone with your outrageous claims, mr conspiracy theorist! Hahahaha!
@Ragnarockalypse thats why i put lol after it to point out I was joking I know the term pot calling the kettle black. Do you know what the word conspiracy actually means, are you now claiming thing are all random and nothing is planned please turn of your political baby light you may not wet the bed you can put your big boy pants on as a free thinking adult
@MultiShampain Hahahahaha. Yeah right. You're just a troll getting trolled. You are stating random conspiracy theories without a shred of credibility and you speak as if you were an 8 year old. How could I possibly take you seriously? I can never take you seriously as long as you keep this up.
@MultiShampain I have a way to answer these kind of things "Show me actual proof and I'll side with ya, waste my time and I'll punch you." Most people with claims like yours get a sore shoulder.
@jonasgrant ok lets go into a 1 on1 debate I do not have any viewpoints without evidence and the fact you are willing to change your views is a sign of a open mind
imagine dna as a a kind of collection of advanced magnets. A magnet automatically aligns itself with other magnets - it doesn't think or decipher any kind of information. DNA is similar, only there are many different kinds, exploiting many different forces - usually chemical. It doesn't mean that anything needs to understand DNA or needs to read it to use it. It is not a choice. You cant not use it, and you cant use it in the wrong way. It doesnt store information like a book, but like a maze
Anyone who begins her argument with HAHAHA or concludes with LOL can not be taken very seriously.
I'm a middle aged, intelligent adult. You need to try a lot harder to keep my attention. I don't believe in God, and I have yet to hear a good reason to change my mind. I require facts, not just promises. I also don't blindly believe things, because I'm not an idiot.
how is "life comes from life" any kind of an arguement. if the origins of creationism too offer alternate means. adam didnt come from life as we know it, he came from a magic trick envolving dust...are you kidding with this crap???
@StateOfTheEnemy well he might be dim witted, but he sparked some good topics on the subject i think. but i agree, i really wish the theist side would help us take a step forward with an inteligent arguement... however, there hasn't seemed to be any thus far
The use of the terms "language" or "code" to describe DNA are best understood to be descriptive analogies. This has been made abundantly clear too many times. The use of such terminology is meant to be descriptive of the phenomena being studied to better enable our comprehension, not prescriptive of a creative force. Mathematics (the nuts and bolts of all physical science) can also be seen as analogous to language but it doesn't suggest a creator mind without a brain.
These two guys are asses. They just don't understand what this guy is trying to say, and there making fun of him because he doesn't have the eloquence to formulate his proposals correctly. That doesn't mean he's wrong. He just can't get across what he's trying to say. And I could go ahead and call scientist magical fairies for inventing complex machinery in the same way they say God is magical. That is always a terrible thing to say for an argument.
Please provide Evidence that ancestors were monkey. Atheists talk lots of thing but NOT be able to give a single proof of evolution not big bang theory. So as you believing in evolution blindly, I believe in God blindly too. At least My Faith is better than yours. I am not from monkey but were created by God wonderfully. Your forefathers are monkey but my Father is God. Fool said in His heart, there is NO God.
Problem is: You'll have to read a lot of books and learn some stuff. But you're not really interested in finding out the truth, are you? What if the truth was unpleasent? Or something unexpeceted or completely new? Based on what you're writing, you're not in possesion of basic scientific understanding and are simply interested in confirming what you allready want to belive. So if you're interested in evidence; start reading, enhance your understanding. The proof is there.
@samaroo96 There is TONS of evidence that humans descended from monkeys, you should do some research.
Evolution is a fact, it's been 100% proven hundreds (if not thousands) of times. The big bang theory is based on evidence. Your "god" hypothesis is not.
@Fortune2point0 Neat! Maybe you can answer the question no scientist can seem to agree on: how much oil is left on the earth? I'm serious here: science cannot reliably measure that and so it loses credibility on a great deal. And despite the weakness of the US electrical grid to EMP (known about since the 1930's, science has ignored itself and put us into harms way by not engineering a better electrical grid. Sorry, but scientists are not a replacement for God.
@troother777 Why is science's inability to measure how much oil is underground a cause of loss of credibility, especially on things completely unrelated to that? Perhaps you could suggest a way to geologically survey the entire world? And any/every city is susceptible to EMP attacks, what does that have to do with anything?
And you're right, you can't replace something that doesn't exist. Scientists are all we've got.
@troother777 Dude, even science has its limitation. And since your god too can't figure out the amount of oil left on earth, your god loses credibility on a great deal too :)
@samaroo96 We dont belive in evolution blindly....its been proven.You dont understand evolution and maybe you dont want to understand it...we did not evolve from monkeys...
I am a human who originated from a common ancestors of todays apes and am fine living with that. You are a human who originated from a common ancestor of todays apes who believe in a delusional fairytale from the bronzeage. Now, to stop you from spamming me with personal messages about becomming born again through Christ, I've had to block you.
Dear Atheists can you proof evolution theory or Big bang theory ? There is NO evidence of Evolution or big bang really happened NO proof at all. Can you proof apes changed in human ? Why and how there is no proof at all. So if there is two Blind Believe in Some thing or some one why not Choose Good Faith. Thought existence of God can not be prove logically, it is Far better than idea of "our ancestors are money". Its Foolishness. Bible truly says, FOOL said in His heart, there is No God.
Dear troll, you obviously meant to say "were monkeys".
You obviously have not the slightest clue what the theory (please look up what that term means) is about. Your ignorance and fear will unfortunately prevent you from informing yourself. As long as this is the case, please stop embarassing yourself by disguising yourself as an intelligent being.
I'm not entirely sure why Matt keeps saying that we have performed experiments that demonstrate that life can come from non-life. From what I understand we have discovered that amino acids can arise naturally, and that peptides can form naturally, but I don't think we have been able to demonstrate that enzymes can form (unless there's something I missed). I'm not entirely sure when you consider "life" to have come into existence though, that's kind of a grey area.
do u believe this is our only life? If u do then u should do whatever u want and believe whatever makes u happiest as long as u dont hurt anyone else. So if a liberal theist simply chooses to hope and believe in god because it makes them happiest, how can u knock that?
This is why a college degree is important, guys. This caller has NO IDEA how DNA is replicated, in the process of cell division. He has NO CLUE about RNA and how the nucleobases pair up… AUTOMATICALLY… as was explained, in a chemical process. Sort of like that children's game of putting the triangle blocks in triangle holes, square blocks in square holes, etc. There is NO THINKING, it's automatic. Geez, this caller has the mind of an ten year old. Hopeless! The caller is a DUMMY.
I get what they're saying regarding DNA not being a language in the traditional sense. Although, it is a language insofar that communicates a set of instructions for cell replication, hence why when there are "spelling errors" or genetic mutations, it can cause disease. I think they were both wrong, It's a language, but it doesn't require a mind. Consciousness isn't required for computers to convey information once they've been set in motion. So it logically follows that biology also does not.
It's not a language. We call it a language as a metaphor. You yourself put "spelling errors" in quotes because you know it's a metaphor.
The replication is a natural, biological process. DNA "communicates" instructions the same way that gravity "communicates" that stuff should fall towards the Earth.
i am a rustic man with some clear-cut rationale in mind .with the grace of ALLAH i catch up things so quickly,specially the irrational part of something .i humbly say i have forte to rebut your Atheism. i have a short video (2 min) for you , a challenge based .
also,don't forget to watch my 2 hours long video on subject of Atheism in your leisure.
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don't call me names if i disillusion you from Atheism.
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"In order for you to refute my ...uh... thing. .... with the DNA stuff." I swear the call screener on this show just picks the most brain dead people they can find. Dude sounds like he's drunk.
Have you ever watched the show, not just the Youtube clips? They have alot of good debates too. In no way does the call screener discriminate against intelligent christian callers.
The problem is that the Youtube-users who mirror clips (this is not the show's channel) usually mirror the worst callers.
@Lugh314 They do get some people who call and argue with them, that do sound intelligent.
I do think that you get the dumb ones on YT specifically because they are fun to watch. And your also overlooking that fact that anyone who argues that science supports the bible 100% will look like and irrational moron, because their argument is moronic and irrational. They do a good job of exposing that on the show.
@ssspe1 We know the universe was not always there as we have aged for example the earth what started this is a great mystery and man has tried to explain it with man made Gods but that does not answer the question anymore than saying I think a magic soup created life both are very foolish. If we do not know we should be open to all posabilities
@MsIndependency Gnosticism and agnosticism deal with knowledge, not belief. Knowledge and belief are not the same thing. One can believe in a god but not know if that god exists (agnostic theist). One can believe in a god and claim to know that god exists (gnostic theist). One can not believe in gods but not know that gods do not exist (agnostic atheist). One can not believe in gods and claim to know that no gods exist (gnostic atheist). The term agnostic does not work.
@lhvinny in my email accounts, I've got tons of emails like your messages... facts sheet about scientific knowledge, explanation, textbook quotations.. but none of them answers my questions. You can continue about your postings. In the past, I was an atheist but now I am a Christian. Atheism does not convince me.
@MsIndependency At what point did I ever attempt to convince you to become an atheist? The only thing I've ever attempted to convince you of is that your definition of atheism is flawed.
Heck, according to your definition of atheism, you weren't an atheist either, since an atheist has made up their mind that there is no god and that they are not even open to the possibility of there being a god and does not investigate claims about a god existing. Do you not see the flaw yet?
@MsIndependency "I've got tons of emails like your messages... but none of them answers my questions." You haven't asked me any questions. You have only made a claim about what atheism is which I have contested.
@MsIndependency "is there any scientific model to predict what will happen tomorrow, accurately?" Which aspect of tomorrow? The rotation of the planet? The time of sunrise and sunset? The behavior of sodium hydroxide when it reacts with hydrochloric acid? How electrical current will flow through the circuits in your computer to power it? The vast majority of the behavior of things that happen in the future can be predicted by scientific models.
@MsIndependency "Christians say it is God who determines the tomorrow." This is a claim, not an explanation. Saying, "God takes care of that" does not, in any way, allow you to predict what will happen. It simply substitutes one unknown for another unknown. It doesn't answer the question; it only substitutes the question for another.
@lhvinny you avoided my question: "is there any scientific model to predict what will happen tomorrow?" what position are you in? are you an atheist or an agnostic? if you don't know, or if you are nothing, tell me so that I needn't waste time talking to you. If you are just an addict to be a teacher marking people's statements having "flaw" or fallacious, you should consult a doctor.
@lhvinny I am a Christian.. but who are you? you don't have any status or position based on which you mark people's right or wrong. How can I talk to a guy who is nothing and who don't have any marking scheme as his base-line to start with any conversation? He doesn't even tell me if he keeps neutral, or if he believes that "science explains everything" or any set of belief or value?
@MsIndependency Since the term agnostic can apply to both those who do and do not believe in gods, it does not work as an alternative term for those who simply do not believe in gods as opposed to believing there are no gods.
The problem remains the same: your definition of atheism is too restrictive to accurately represent the position of all atheists, which is simply a lack of belief in gods.
@lhvinny //Since the term agnostic can apply to both those who do and do not believe in gods, it does not work as an alternative term // LOL.... you are a dictionary. Which book stores are selling your publication? So.. what position are you in? are you an atheist or agnostic?
@AtheistRex What happens when you smoke DMT is pure confoundment. I've seen religious as well as atheist people do it. The religious person might come back saying, "I saw God at the height of the experience," on the other hand the atheist will reach for a more mathematical diction, as in, "I glimpsed a higher dimension." In either case, what is intuit by the individual is something transcendental and interconnected. I'd recommend looking into Dr. Rick Strassman's book "DMT: The Spirit Molecule."
@Hanahleia "I saw God at the height of the experience" "I glimpsed a higher dimension"
You're aware, of course, all DMT experiences are in the mind, aren't you? We have a trace amount of a naturally occurring psychedelic drug in us. Sure would explain a lot of god experiences (if not all). But none of it travels beyond an individual's neurons. If such a connection was made, where are the answers to great problems? Why don't they come back with a testable scientific or divine truth?
@AtheistRex Well, depends where you've placed your bet. There are people coming back thinking they've got the "divine truth." Just take a look at egodeath.com, for instance. Some scientists are now coming to the conclusion that consciousness may arise even below the level of the neuron, the microtubule, which would analogize the brain not to the likeness of a computer, but a quantum computer. Here's something to consider, and I'm not saying you should believe, just consider.
@Hanahleia "There are people coming back thinking they've got the "divine truth.""
Exactly. "Thinking". As in, "In Their Own Mind".
"Just take a look at egodeath.com, for instance."
Yea thanks, that sounds like a reliable site. And having visited it, I can say, "You're sooo fucking out there." Seriously, I'm in NYC and you are too fucking weird for me. Trust me! I've had psychedelics, there's no "other dimension" involved! Goodbye now. Grow up a little faster, you're in a whacky phase.
@AtheistRex Wacky phase? I'm inclined to disagree. Did you have a full spectrum experience with psychedelics? Are you aware that a relatively light dose will not elicit the effects necessary to achieve what Michael Hoffman's talking about on his website at egodeath.com & who's to say he is not speaking truth? Here's a guy describing a typical 5 dried gram experience with psilocybin mushrooms, have a listen, then judge.
@Hanahleia DMT...you mean dimethyltryptamine? Isn't that a natural compound with natural psychedelic effects on the human mind? Isn't that a natural explanation for the supposed sensations during NDEs? How does saying DMT is linked to NDEs, in any way, justify the supernatural claims with regards to NDEs? Why should The Atheist Experience address this possible cause of NDEs? I'm confused by your position.
@lhvinny If by "natural," you mean, endogenous, yes. But as for a "natural explanation," I'd have to assume that you're not aware of the implications of that may be. Y'ever smoke this stuff? It offers an experience of such profundity that to use "God" as a metaphor wouldn't be an exaggeration of this experience. I could link you to some links that you might find of interest, if you'd like, 'cause a comment wouldn't do it. But for now, I'll just leave you with this:
@MsIndependency The only thing I'm trying to convince you of is that you are incorrectly representing the position of the vast majority of people who identify themselves as atheists. Have I truly failed to do that? Have I not given you a corrected version of how most atheists view what atheism is? Have you not failed to provide an alternative term that accurately describes a person who lacks belief but does not assert nonexistence?
Hay ateists, explain me why there is matter and energy. You may answer that big bang created it, and there was nothing before it. That is unlogical on a science perspective, since matter cannot be created out of nothing and energy never appears or disappears. The only logical answer is something must have created it.
@fkeopfkeop "Hay ateists, explain me why there is matter and energy." Because in our universe "nothingness" is an unstable state. Pockets where "nothing" should be are constantly being filled by particle pairs at the quantum level. This have been directly observed. The reason why this does not violate the laws of conservation is because the particle pairs either destroy each other after a very short lifespan, or there is a creation of negative energy at the same time. 1 + -1 = 0
@fkeopfkeop "Ok, fine, that's okay, but what created theese laws?" We did. Scientific laws are simply statements (involving a mathematical equation in most instances to allow us to make testable, quantifiable predictions) which describe how the universe behaves under certain circumstances.
However, I'm sure you meant, "What made the universe that way?" The answer is one I've already given: "We don't know yet." We don't know even if an active agent was involved in the process.
@lhvinny@lhvinny "However, I'm sure you meant, "What made the universe that way?" The answer is one I've already given: "We don't know yet." We don't know even if an active agent was involved in the process."
So what right do ateist have to judge religous people when no one knows?
@fkeopfkeop "So what right do ateist have to judge religous people when no one knows?" Claims need justification. The religious, for the most part, assert the claim that their version of god (or gods, or the supernatural, etc.) exists as their holy book or dogma teaches them. Existence claims are justified via demonstrable manifesting evidence. Yet there is no demonstrable manifesting evidence for anything supernatural. If there were, it would be a field of scientific study.
@fkeopfkeop So logic and rational thinking alone justify criticism of religious claims. To paraphrase Carl Sagan, if I claimed that I had a pet dragon in my garage, would you not require me to justify that claim with evidence? Same goes for any claim, supernatural or otherwise, with regards to universal origins or anything else.
@fkeopfkeop Second, and more importantly, is what people do because of their religious views. Personally, I don't care what your religious beliefs are. What I do care about, however, is what you do because of those religious beliefs, especially if those actions directly impact my life or the lives of others.
I feel justified to criticize parents who trusted in faith healing for their 12 year old daughter who then died an agonizing death from a condition medical successfully treats.
@fkeopfkeop I feel justified to criticize those who use their religion as the basis for their removal of the teaching of fact-based scientific explanations of how the world works in the science classroom in favor of myth, legend and religious dogma. I feel justified to criticize those who want to legalize bigotry by calling it "defending the sanctity of marriage." I feel justified to point out when people are lying or misinformed because sharing accurate knowledge makes it better.
@fkeopfkeop "The only logical answer is something must have created it." No, it's not. The only logical answer to the question, until such time as we have evidence to support any idea about the origin of matter and energy, is to say "We don't know yet." Until we have evidence, assuming anything, including that it was not created or that it was, is unjustified.
Guess what, saying it was created also violates the very law you said prevented it from being created by the big bang.
@fkeopfkeop You also are falsely assuming, since you addressed your question to atheists, that the creator must be a god. What prevents the creative force for the universe from being something other than a deity? Until we have evidence, there is no reason to assume a dichotomy between "God did it or the big bang did it" as you are proposing.
@lhvinny No, I'm not assuming it was God in that sense. Atheist comes from greek and means "without god, denies the gods, godless or left of the gods". If you open up to a deity if there is evidence of it your a realist, not an atheist.
@fkeopfkeop I agree that atheism is "without god." Someone who does not believe in gods is without god. I do not believe in gods. Therefore I am an atheist. There is a difference between not believing in gods and believing there are no gods. Both, however, are accurately described by the term "without god."
@lhvinny I did not know that the term ateist was that broad and that some atheist opens up to the possibility that there is a god or gods if it can be proven. Thanks for that.
@fkeopfkeop You are most welcome for the correction about the information with regards to the actual position of most atheists, and I thank you for your willingness to hear and accept that position.
The point that the caller is making is that there cannot be self awareness in an "instance". We must transcend time to some extent. The necessary creator of time and space must also be beyond time and space. Our vital characteristic is more like the creator's than like the physical universe that is locked in time. Cheers!
This is just an idea, and I'm not asserting anything but just wanted to throw it out there. Since life CAN come from non-life, supposedly it can according to science. Could it be possible that all powerful God could have just popped into being from NOTHING? I mean I know it's not likely at ALL but it's just something I thought of.
many years ago people did not believe that there would be oxygen in air; "why should we believe in a presumption?" they fired at a person who made the oxygen hypothesis. What if "God existence" is an experiment too difficult to make? much more difficult than oxygen-discovering experiment? atheism, is another faith or religion just as well.
@MsIndependency Atheism is not the assertion that god does not exist. Your straw man is exposed and burned.
And by "many years ago" you mean the 2nd century BCE right, meaning 2200 years ago, right? No one was "fired" or scrutinized for thinking that oxygen exists. You completely made that up. I suggest you avoid lying and making stuff up if you want people to take you seriously.
@lhvinny atheism is an assertion that god does not exist. It's opposite to "theism". They themselves don't do any experiments to prove if God exists. And they incessantly deter people from doing experiment if God exist. they are extremely pessimistic guys.. Your lecturing is not convincing.
@MsIndependency "atheism is an assertion that god does not exist." It doesn't matter how many times you repeat it. It does not make it true. According to the vast majority of those who label themselves as atheists, they simply do not believe in gods. They do not claim that no gods exist.
If you are dead-set on using "atheist" to mean someone who claims there is no god, then provide an alternative term for those who simply to not believe in gods.
@TheGp19 Gnosticism and agnosticism deal with knowledge (that's what the root "gnostic" means). Knowledge and belief are not the same thing. One can believe in a god, but not know a god exists (agnostic theist). One can also believe in a god and claim to know that it exists (gnostic theist). One can also not believe in a god and claim to know that god does not exist (gnostic atheist). My position is agnostic atheist, where I don't believe but I don't claim to know no god exists.
@MsIndependency "It's opposite to "theism"." No it's not. Anti-theism is the opposite of theism. Just like immoral is the opposite of moral. Amoral is to moral as atheist is to theist. It means "without," not "opposed to" or "opposite of." This is basic English.
"They themselves don't do any experiments to prove if God exists." This is a lie. The James Randi Foundation has conducted multiple experiments to try to find out if the supernatural, including gods, exist.
@MsIndependency "And they incessantly deter people from doing experiment if God exist." On the contrary, I invite people to give me suggestions as to experiments I can do in order to confirm that a certain deity exists. I want to know the truth with regards to the existence of deities, no matter if that truth confirms my current ideas or negates them. I care more about knowing the truth than confirming my pre-conceived notions.
@MsIndependency "And they incessantly deter people from doing experiment if God exist." On the contrary, I invite people to give me suggestions as to experiments I can do in order to confirm that a certain deity exists. I want to know the truth with regards to the existence of deities, no matter if that truth confirms my current ideas or negates them. I care more about knowing the truth than confirming my pre-conceived notions.
@MsIndependency "they are extremely pessimistic guys" Based on what?
"Your lecturing is not convincing." That's a shame. Typically when one is corrected, one should be humble enough to recognize they made a mistake and at least be willing to learn from it. I'm sorry you have chosen to not do this and maintain the misconceptions of atheists that you had before I corrected you. I hope you change your mind after this set of replies.
I have a hypothesis on why religion propagates so freely. It's because it is extremely difficult (if not impossible) to imagine that you won't experience anything after you die. Try to imagine not being able to think or imagine or reason. It's very difficult indeed. However I am still an atheist, because I am reasonably sure that an after life is evidently not true.
At 10.20 I almost wept for this christian nut job, because Matt Dillahunty explained this scenario so well that even a retarded baby elephant, kept in a refridgerated cupboard for 13 years, molested by priests and beaten everyday by knights from the middle age on horses having a jousting competion with lances made from eucalyptus trees and sheet metal, could have understood this rational, pattern of thought.
Cesar needs to go look at the depleted uranium babies being born in Iraq, if he thinks DNA is a language. And this was perpetuated by christians in America. Their mere existance would be evidence that there is no caring god. that suffering is beyond belief.
The Atheist Experience are a bunch of cowardly hypocrites, they block you if you raise reasonable sensible points for discussion, they don't actually want any kind of "debate" in reality but only need the extremist fundamentalist to call up so they can make an arse of them; they become exactly like the institutions and people they attack and criticise
I would love to be on this show. I am atheist and have been since the 7th grade. I respect religious people, but I'm willing to always argue with them. Caesar sounds like a good guy, but he's been brainwashed by religion. See ya!
All supernatural evidence proves the mind exists apart from the body.
Exorcisms & ghosts verify what people experience when they die and are resuscitated. I watched a chilling episode of Paranormal Files: The Girl without a Face. This family keep seeing the young girl on the road walking while they were DRIVING, then stop and start talking to her. She turns to them and she has NO FACE! Goosebumps! A girl died right on that last spot and lost her face in the accident. She's o.k. now. 8)
intelligence in nature does not necessary imply there has to be a God to start this all...i'm a deist but even i know this. Fuck people with their stupid scientific claims for your faith. It's just a faith. Admit it people!
@shizzleman8 You mean "proven" with anecdotal evidence millions of times.
If PK truely exists it would likely violate much more solidly proven physical lawas, such as the second law of thermodynamics, the inverse square law, and conservation of momentum.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but if you could show me these millions of experiments I would appreciate it.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH funniest caller ever and possibly a troll
ramzevans 7 hours ago
Cesar´s a dumbass. We all know David Koresh is god.
jezmundberserker 9 hours ago
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god is dead but before he died he gave me head
and took it in the ass on daddy Satan's bed
his face was red, but it turned white fast
he sucked me so good i covered his face with a cum blast
he farted out some sex juice when he shit a deuce
his ass was loose i expected more from a holy caboose
now hes texting me asking when he'll see me again
but i gotta tell him to go get semen from other men
fucking stalkers.....
HOaliyartMO 15 hours ago
@Hanaheia
I want to start off by saying that I am not attacking you with this post. I simply want to make something clear. Atheism is not a belief system as you claim, nor is it a wall. Atheism is the lack of belief in supernatural claims, due to a lack of valid evidence that supports these claims. He is not saying "god doesn't exist and I a can prove it to you!!" as would any other true atheist. He simply does not see any valid evidence for the existence of God.
MisterBassPlayerMan 17 hours ago
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3:25 "Well, the universe isn't finely tuned, you have no evidence that Jesus existed, and near-death-experiences are hooey!"
The caller makes a valid point right there, Matt speaks with such certainty that what his atheism has actually become is a wall of close-mindedness where any idea that doesn't align with his belief system is automatically rejected through his own reductionist rationalism. We're learning more about NDEs and their involvement with DMT. DMT, which TAE has never addressed!
Hanahleia 19 hours ago
I don't like the way he talks to the caller even though I'm an atheist too. I think when someone like this guy bothers to pick up the phone and is capable of having a decent conversation over the matter, he should be treated as nice as possible. Rude treatment will only worsen the atheists reputation.
Sammagot 21 hours ago
@Sammagot it was quite a reasonable tone taken by Matt, and didn't sound rude to me, it sounded more like a plead to reason and rational discussion.
ramzevans 7 hours ago
What is the first experiment he mentioned, the one before the Miller-Urey-experiment?
FemaleUnknownUser 23 hours ago
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Dear Christians, If you will ask evidence and proof of big bang and evolution theory from atheists, they will never provide any. But will call you idiot, abuse, delusion, uneducated etc. If any of them would be good atheist, will advise you to read books, search in Internet or educate ourself. But question will always remain same. So I have no doubt that Atheists also believing in some thing blindly which is worse than blindly believing in GOD.
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Who's dumber--this guy or that Mark dude from the Austin church (i think his name was Mark, anyway). I really feel bad when people this dumb don't realize they're dumb and try to take the fight to this level. I just can't handle it.
YourDogIsDeadHAHA 1 day ago
Who's dumber--this guy or that Mark dude from the Austin church (i think his name was Mark, anyway). I really feel bad when people this dumb don't realize they're dumb and try to take the fight to this level. I just can't handle it.
YourDogIsDeadHAHA 1 day ago
ahah top 3, i never thought this was a playlist
Astr0wave 1 day ago
That fat moron does believe in miracles he believes mossad were there setting up cameras to film 9 11 and did not know the event would happen a miracle indeed. Google this you will find all the main athiests are in fact zionist shills do not let them decieve you. Please look into the way they deal with people exposing the jewish involvment on 9 11 now a documented FACT
MultiShampain 1 day ago
@MultiShampain No matter what Matt Dillahunty's belief about the horrible 9-11 attacks, that has nothing to do with a lack of belief in any god claim. I am an atheist and that has nothing to do with Israel, 9-11, or the price of tea in China. I am an atheist because I find no god claim I have been presented with so far compelling.I do not believe in Spiderman because I have not been shown any compelling evidence for his existence.Same thing.
7A35 1 day ago
@7A35 The I have a question why do the celeb athiests ask you to question everything and search for evidence and when you do ridicule people as conspiracy theorists. Hitchins was another spreading lies about Iran claiming to want to wipe Israel a man with his IQ knows what was really said. So my question why do celeb athiests always turn out to be decietful liars and delib misleed people
MultiShampain 1 day ago
@MultiShampain FACT. It is a FACT. It is a FACT because i write FACT with capital letters and expect you to accept it as FACT.
Ragnarockalypse 1 day ago
@Ragnarockalypse Do you actually want to claim that mossad agents were not captured lets get you to make a denial statment here in writing so I can expose you as a dummy having views with a position of ignorance
MultiShampain 1 day ago
@MultiShampain Oh no, the pot is calling the kettle black again.
Ragnarockalypse 1 day ago
@Ragnarockalypse I am not calling you black I have no idea what ethnic origins you have lol but I am calling you a fool as you need to look into topics before forming opinion
MultiShampain 1 day ago
@MultiShampain Not ethnicity. The pot, which is black, calls the kettle, which is black, black. You call me a fool. That makes you a hypocrite. The poetic part is that it stands true regardless of wether I really am a fool or not.
Good luck trying to convince anyone with your outrageous claims, mr conspiracy theorist! Hahahaha!
Ragnarockalypse 1 day ago
@Ragnarockalypse thats why i put lol after it to point out I was joking I know the term pot calling the kettle black. Do you know what the word conspiracy actually means, are you now claiming thing are all random and nothing is planned please turn of your political baby light you may not wet the bed you can put your big boy pants on as a free thinking adult
MultiShampain 1 day ago
@MultiShampain Hahahahaha. Yeah right. You're just a troll getting trolled. You are stating random conspiracy theories without a shred of credibility and you speak as if you were an 8 year old. How could I possibly take you seriously? I can never take you seriously as long as you keep this up.
GG no re
Ragnarockalypse 1 day ago
@MultiShampain I have a way to answer these kind of things "Show me actual proof and I'll side with ya, waste my time and I'll punch you." Most people with claims like yours get a sore shoulder.
jonasgrant 1 day ago
@jonasgrant ok lets go into a 1 on1 debate I do not have any viewpoints without evidence and the fact you are willing to change your views is a sign of a open mind
MultiShampain 1 day ago
@MultiShampain Sounds good, but I'm no debater, so don't judge the form, just the facts.
jonasgrant 19 hours ago
imagine dna as a a kind of collection of advanced magnets. A magnet automatically aligns itself with other magnets - it doesn't think or decipher any kind of information. DNA is similar, only there are many different kinds, exploiting many different forces - usually chemical. It doesn't mean that anything needs to understand DNA or needs to read it to use it. It is not a choice. You cant not use it, and you cant use it in the wrong way. It doesnt store information like a book, but like a maze
pillefaxe 2 days ago
Anyone who begins her argument with HAHAHA or concludes with LOL can not be taken very seriously.
I'm a middle aged, intelligent adult. You need to try a lot harder to keep my attention. I don't believe in God, and I have yet to hear a good reason to change my mind. I require facts, not just promises. I also don't blindly believe things, because I'm not an idiot.
multitalentino 2 days ago
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webhutspain 2 days ago
Not all humans have self awareness. Children born with anencephaly are fully human but have no self awareness. Try again my theist friend...
Hornadayfan 2 days ago
how is "life comes from life" any kind of an arguement. if the origins of creationism too offer alternate means. adam didnt come from life as we know it, he came from a magic trick envolving dust...are you kidding with this crap???
georgio210 2 days ago
Why do they keep taking calls from Cesar?
He doesn't contribute anything worthwhile.
StateOfTheEnemy 2 days ago
@StateOfTheEnemy well he might be dim witted, but he sparked some good topics on the subject i think. but i agree, i really wish the theist side would help us take a step forward with an inteligent arguement... however, there hasn't seemed to be any thus far
georgio210 2 days ago
The use of the terms "language" or "code" to describe DNA are best understood to be descriptive analogies. This has been made abundantly clear too many times. The use of such terminology is meant to be descriptive of the phenomena being studied to better enable our comprehension, not prescriptive of a creative force. Mathematics (the nuts and bolts of all physical science) can also be seen as analogous to language but it doesn't suggest a creator mind without a brain.
socksumi 2 days ago
Caller is a jerky boy character.
TheMasonator777 2 days ago
These two guys are asses. They just don't understand what this guy is trying to say, and there making fun of him because he doesn't have the eloquence to formulate his proposals correctly. That doesn't mean he's wrong. He just can't get across what he's trying to say. And I could go ahead and call scientist magical fairies for inventing complex machinery in the same way they say God is magical. That is always a terrible thing to say for an argument.
YouHaveWonAFreeiPad 3 days ago
@YouHaveWonAFreeiPad the caller seems to be brain dead.... he shouldn't even be on the show.
sniped101 3 days ago
@sniped101 The two hosts seem to be dead as to things pertaining to righteousness.
YouHaveWonAFreeiPad 3 days ago
They're not asses for calling out when a person is spewing random nonsense.
garrettinelson 2 days ago
You know, only an idiot would call these guys, which only strengthens their points.
ZacharyRodriguez 3 days ago
what fucking tattoo does dude have looks like the square strange one you get for a phone bar code
xrdxex 3 days ago
Actually the caller brought up an interesting topic with the language and DNA thing. The host was pretty rude in this case.
synch1216 3 days ago
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@synch1216 "Actually the caller brought up an interesting topic with the language and DNA thing."
Yes. Very interesting. DNA is prone to duplication errors (mutation) and can also be modified by retrovirus insertion. God makes plans and DNA laughs.
"The host was pretty rude in this case."
Not rude. Just blunt. There is no hint of linguistics in DNA. Genomes are not spoken or written. They EVOLVE.
Forget these ideas of genetic language. DNA is deaf, dumb and blind.
ar2de2em2 2 days ago
Please provide Evidence that ancestors were monkey. Atheists talk lots of thing but NOT be able to give a single proof of evolution not big bang theory. So as you believing in evolution blindly, I believe in God blindly too. At least My Faith is better than yours. I am not from monkey but were created by God wonderfully. Your forefathers are monkey but my Father is God. Fool said in His heart, there is NO God.
samaroo96 3 days ago
@samaroo96
Problem is: You'll have to read a lot of books and learn some stuff. But you're not really interested in finding out the truth, are you? What if the truth was unpleasent? Or something unexpeceted or completely new? Based on what you're writing, you're not in possesion of basic scientific understanding and are simply interested in confirming what you allready want to belive. So if you're interested in evidence; start reading, enhance your understanding. The proof is there.
JJTakeItAway 3 days ago
@samaroo96 There is TONS of evidence that humans descended from monkeys, you should do some research.
Evolution is a fact, it's been 100% proven hundreds (if not thousands) of times. The big bang theory is based on evidence. Your "god" hypothesis is not.
Fortune2point0 2 days ago
@Fortune2point0 Neat! Maybe you can answer the question no scientist can seem to agree on: how much oil is left on the earth? I'm serious here: science cannot reliably measure that and so it loses credibility on a great deal. And despite the weakness of the US electrical grid to EMP (known about since the 1930's, science has ignored itself and put us into harms way by not engineering a better electrical grid. Sorry, but scientists are not a replacement for God.
troother777 2 days ago
@troother777 Why is science's inability to measure how much oil is underground a cause of loss of credibility, especially on things completely unrelated to that? Perhaps you could suggest a way to geologically survey the entire world? And any/every city is susceptible to EMP attacks, what does that have to do with anything?
And you're right, you can't replace something that doesn't exist. Scientists are all we've got.
Fortune2point0 2 days ago
@troother777 Dude, even science has its limitation. And since your god too can't figure out the amount of oil left on earth, your god loses credibility on a great deal too :)
addictz12345 2 days ago
@samaroo96 We dont belive in evolution blindly....its been proven.You dont understand evolution and maybe you dont want to understand it...we did not evolve from monkeys...
here maybe this will help /watch?v=wh0F4FBLJRE
Seriath1 2 days ago
@samaroo96
I am a human who originated from a common ancestors of todays apes and am fine living with that. You are a human who originated from a common ancestor of todays apes who believe in a delusional fairytale from the bronzeage. Now, to stop you from spamming me with personal messages about becomming born again through Christ, I've had to block you.
JJTakeItAway 2 days ago
Dear Atheists can you proof evolution theory or Big bang theory ? There is NO evidence of Evolution or big bang really happened NO proof at all. Can you proof apes changed in human ? Why and how there is no proof at all. So if there is two Blind Believe in Some thing or some one why not Choose Good Faith. Thought existence of God can not be prove logically, it is Far better than idea of "our ancestors are money". Its Foolishness. Bible truly says, FOOL said in His heart, there is No God.
samaroo96 3 days ago
@samaroo96 Come on. You can troll better than that.
lhvinny 3 days ago
@samaroo96 "our ancestors are money"
Dear troll, you obviously meant to say "were monkeys".
You obviously have not the slightest clue what the theory (please look up what that term means) is about. Your ignorance and fear will unfortunately prevent you from informing yourself. As long as this is the case, please stop embarassing yourself by disguising yourself as an intelligent being.
seriouskano2 3 days ago
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@samaroo96 evolution and the big bang are based on observed facts.
daverowbotham 3 days ago
I'm not entirely sure why Matt keeps saying that we have performed experiments that demonstrate that life can come from non-life. From what I understand we have discovered that amino acids can arise naturally, and that peptides can form naturally, but I don't think we have been able to demonstrate that enzymes can form (unless there's something I missed). I'm not entirely sure when you consider "life" to have come into existence though, that's kind of a grey area.
EnigmaHood 3 days ago
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do u believe this is our only life? If u do then u should do whatever u want and believe whatever makes u happiest as long as u dont hurt anyone else. So if a liberal theist simply chooses to hope and believe in god because it makes them happiest, how can u knock that?
Jebro11 3 days ago
This is why a college degree is important, guys. This caller has NO IDEA how DNA is replicated, in the process of cell division. He has NO CLUE about RNA and how the nucleobases pair up… AUTOMATICALLY… as was explained, in a chemical process. Sort of like that children's game of putting the triangle blocks in triangle holes, square blocks in square holes, etc. There is NO THINKING, it's automatic. Geez, this caller has the mind of an ten year old. Hopeless! The caller is a DUMMY.
medartist01 3 days ago
damn my drug dealer has gone on holiday for a week, maybe Cesar could hook me up
dieseluk2k 3 days ago
I get what they're saying regarding DNA not being a language in the traditional sense. Although, it is a language insofar that communicates a set of instructions for cell replication, hence why when there are "spelling errors" or genetic mutations, it can cause disease. I think they were both wrong, It's a language, but it doesn't require a mind. Consciousness isn't required for computers to convey information once they've been set in motion. So it logically follows that biology also does not.
boosa1 4 days ago
@boosa1 It's not a language. We put it that way to make it easier for us to comprehend.
RockAustinDXtakerRk0 4 days ago
@boosa1
It's not a language. We call it a language as a metaphor. You yourself put "spelling errors" in quotes because you know it's a metaphor.
The replication is a natural, biological process. DNA "communicates" instructions the same way that gravity "communicates" that stuff should fall towards the Earth.
MeewbeThree 3 days ago
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all my respectful Atheists,
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tigersforchrist 4 days ago
"In order for you to refute my ...uh... thing. .... with the DNA stuff." I swear the call screener on this show just picks the most brain dead people they can find. Dude sounds like he's drunk.
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MeewbeThree 3 days ago
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@Lugh314
Have you ever watched the show, not just the Youtube clips? They have alot of good debates too. In no way does the call screener discriminate against intelligent christian callers.
The problem is that the Youtube-users who mirror clips (this is not the show's channel) usually mirror the worst callers.
MeewbeThree 3 days ago
@Lugh314 They do get some people who call and argue with them, that do sound intelligent.
I do think that you get the dumb ones on YT specifically because they are fun to watch. And your also overlooking that fact that anyone who argues that science supports the bible 100% will look like and irrational moron, because their argument is moronic and irrational. They do a good job of exposing that on the show.
Craigmw45 3 days ago
'ummm, but yeah, ummmm, the thing is, ummmmmm, god exists. So ummm yeah that shows, that ummmm god exists.
ssspe1 4 days ago 35
@ssspe1 That's an exact quote from that moron.
liamarioeire 3 days ago
@ssspe1 baha ha yup
georgio210 2 days ago
@ssspe1 We know the universe was not always there as we have aged for example the earth what started this is a great mystery and man has tried to explain it with man made Gods but that does not answer the question anymore than saying I think a magic soup created life both are very foolish. If we do not know we should be open to all posabilities
MultiShampain 1 day ago
I had to stop this video because this Cesar guy takes forever to get to the point.
venusbrain 5 days ago
cesar is the name of the monkey from the planet of the apes....just to let everyone know..
ROLNIKxPL 5 days ago
@lhvinny. The group that you mentioned is agnostics. They aren't denying God existence, though they're skeptical.
MsIndependency 5 days ago
@MsIndependency Gnosticism and agnosticism deal with knowledge, not belief. Knowledge and belief are not the same thing. One can believe in a god but not know if that god exists (agnostic theist). One can believe in a god and claim to know that god exists (gnostic theist). One can not believe in gods but not know that gods do not exist (agnostic atheist). One can not believe in gods and claim to know that no gods exist (gnostic atheist). The term agnostic does not work.
lhvinny 4 days ago
@lhvinny in my email accounts, I've got tons of emails like your messages... facts sheet about scientific knowledge, explanation, textbook quotations.. but none of them answers my questions. You can continue about your postings. In the past, I was an atheist but now I am a Christian. Atheism does not convince me.
MsIndependency 4 days ago
@MsIndependency At what point did I ever attempt to convince you to become an atheist? The only thing I've ever attempted to convince you of is that your definition of atheism is flawed.
Heck, according to your definition of atheism, you weren't an atheist either, since an atheist has made up their mind that there is no god and that they are not even open to the possibility of there being a god and does not investigate claims about a god existing. Do you not see the flaw yet?
lhvinny 4 days ago
@MsIndependency "I've got tons of emails like your messages... but none of them answers my questions." You haven't asked me any questions. You have only made a claim about what atheism is which I have contested.
lhvinny 4 days ago
@lhvinny okay. is there any scientific model to predict what will happen tomorrow, accurately? Christians say it is God who determines the tomorrow.
MsIndependency 4 days ago
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@MsIndependency "is there any scientific model to predict what will happen tomorrow, accurately?" Which aspect of tomorrow? The rotation of the planet? The time of sunrise and sunset? The behavior of sodium hydroxide when it reacts with hydrochloric acid? How electrical current will flow through the circuits in your computer to power it? The vast majority of the behavior of things that happen in the future can be predicted by scientific models.
lhvinny 4 days ago
@MsIndependency "Christians say it is God who determines the tomorrow." This is a claim, not an explanation. Saying, "God takes care of that" does not, in any way, allow you to predict what will happen. It simply substitutes one unknown for another unknown. It doesn't answer the question; it only substitutes the question for another.
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MsIndependency 3 days ago
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@lhvinny you avoided my question: "is there any scientific model to predict what will happen tomorrow?" what position are you in? are you an atheist or an agnostic? if you don't know, or if you are nothing, tell me so that I needn't waste time talking to you. If you are just an addict to be a teacher marking people's statements having "flaw" or fallacious, you should consult a doctor.
MsIndependency 3 days ago
@lhvinny I am a Christian.. but who are you? you don't have any status or position based on which you mark people's right or wrong. How can I talk to a guy who is nothing and who don't have any marking scheme as his base-line to start with any conversation? He doesn't even tell me if he keeps neutral, or if he believes that "science explains everything" or any set of belief or value?
MsIndependency 3 days ago
@MsIndependency Since the term agnostic can apply to both those who do and do not believe in gods, it does not work as an alternative term for those who simply do not believe in gods as opposed to believing there are no gods.
The problem remains the same: your definition of atheism is too restrictive to accurately represent the position of all atheists, which is simply a lack of belief in gods.
lhvinny 4 days ago
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@lhvinny //Since the term agnostic can apply to both those who do and do not believe in gods, it does not work as an alternative term // LOL.... you are a dictionary. Which book stores are selling your publication? So.. what position are you in? are you an atheist or agnostic?
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Hanahleia 5 days ago
@Hanahleia "DMT, which TAE has never addressed!"
How does DMT transport you to heaven and back?
AtheistRex 5 days ago
@AtheistRex What happens when you smoke DMT is pure confoundment. I've seen religious as well as atheist people do it. The religious person might come back saying, "I saw God at the height of the experience," on the other hand the atheist will reach for a more mathematical diction, as in, "I glimpsed a higher dimension." In either case, what is intuit by the individual is something transcendental and interconnected. I'd recommend looking into Dr. Rick Strassman's book "DMT: The Spirit Molecule."
Hanahleia 4 days ago
@Hanahleia "I saw God at the height of the experience" "I glimpsed a higher dimension"
You're aware, of course, all DMT experiences are in the mind, aren't you? We have a trace amount of a naturally occurring psychedelic drug in us. Sure would explain a lot of god experiences (if not all). But none of it travels beyond an individual's neurons. If such a connection was made, where are the answers to great problems? Why don't they come back with a testable scientific or divine truth?
AtheistRex 4 days ago
@AtheistRex Well, depends where you've placed your bet. There are people coming back thinking they've got the "divine truth." Just take a look at egodeath.com, for instance. Some scientists are now coming to the conclusion that consciousness may arise even below the level of the neuron, the microtubule, which would analogize the brain not to the likeness of a computer, but a quantum computer. Here's something to consider, and I'm not saying you should believe, just consider.
/watch?v=DOvpF4tKTRU
Hanahleia 4 days ago
@Hanahleia "There are people coming back thinking they've got the "divine truth.""
Exactly. "Thinking". As in, "In Their Own Mind".
"Just take a look at egodeath.com, for instance."
Yea thanks, that sounds like a reliable site. And having visited it, I can say, "You're sooo fucking out there." Seriously, I'm in NYC and you are too fucking weird for me. Trust me! I've had psychedelics, there's no "other dimension" involved! Goodbye now. Grow up a little faster, you're in a whacky phase.
AtheistRex 4 days ago
@AtheistRex Wacky phase? I'm inclined to disagree. Did you have a full spectrum experience with psychedelics? Are you aware that a relatively light dose will not elicit the effects necessary to achieve what Michael Hoffman's talking about on his website at egodeath.com & who's to say he is not speaking truth? Here's a guy describing a typical 5 dried gram experience with psilocybin mushrooms, have a listen, then judge.
/watch?v=Nrj1X6TzEXo&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL8CD1F61AE656D0B8
Hanahleia 3 days ago
@Hanahleia DMT...you mean dimethyltryptamine? Isn't that a natural compound with natural psychedelic effects on the human mind? Isn't that a natural explanation for the supposed sensations during NDEs? How does saying DMT is linked to NDEs, in any way, justify the supernatural claims with regards to NDEs? Why should The Atheist Experience address this possible cause of NDEs? I'm confused by your position.
lhvinny 5 days ago
@lhvinny If by "natural," you mean, endogenous, yes. But as for a "natural explanation," I'd have to assume that you're not aware of the implications of that may be. Y'ever smoke this stuff? It offers an experience of such profundity that to use "God" as a metaphor wouldn't be an exaggeration of this experience. I could link you to some links that you might find of interest, if you'd like, 'cause a comment wouldn't do it. But for now, I'll just leave you with this:
/watch?v=pVXvLLOaI7Q
Hanahleia 4 days ago
I'm catholic.
rpascuttini 5 days ago
If you rearrange the letters of "faith", you can spell "microwave". Don't test it out though, just believe me
howflyyy81 5 days ago
I believe that jesus was a bird.
HellomynameisN 5 days ago
@hvinny. I think here ppl are talking about athesim, not humbleness. You do not convince me yet.
MsIndependency 5 days ago
@MsIndependency The only thing I'm trying to convince you of is that you are incorrectly representing the position of the vast majority of people who identify themselves as atheists. Have I truly failed to do that? Have I not given you a corrected version of how most atheists view what atheism is? Have you not failed to provide an alternative term that accurately describes a person who lacks belief but does not assert nonexistence?
lhvinny 5 days ago
When I was in Junior High School, I read the Bible...and it took 10 years before I turned atheist
jondeare 5 days ago
It's Pedro...VOTE PEDRO!
Zentz29 5 days ago
What a dummy. A real product of the christian anti-intellectualism movement. Is a key deciphering a lock? Does a peg decipher a hole?
vicdmise 5 days ago
Hay ateists, explain me why there is matter and energy. You may answer that big bang created it, and there was nothing before it. That is unlogical on a science perspective, since matter cannot be created out of nothing and energy never appears or disappears. The only logical answer is something must have created it.
fkeopfkeop 5 days ago
@fkeopfkeop by that logic something most have created your "god".
geoffreygreenleaf 5 days ago
@geoffreygreenleaf "by that logic something most have created your "god"."
Not if it is defined as something that has been there for eternity.
Applying your argument you may say that all particles may be divided infinitely and no elementary particles exists.
fkeopfkeop 5 days ago
@fkeopfkeop "Hay ateists, explain me why there is matter and energy." Because in our universe "nothingness" is an unstable state. Pockets where "nothing" should be are constantly being filled by particle pairs at the quantum level. This have been directly observed. The reason why this does not violate the laws of conservation is because the particle pairs either destroy each other after a very short lifespan, or there is a creation of negative energy at the same time. 1 + -1 = 0
lhvinny 5 days ago
@lhvinny "Because in our universe "nothingness" is an unstable state. (...)" Ok, fine, that's okay, but what created theese laws?
fkeopfkeop 5 days ago
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@fkeopfkeop "Ok, fine, that's okay, but what created theese laws?" We did. Scientific laws are simply statements (involving a mathematical equation in most instances to allow us to make testable, quantifiable predictions) which describe how the universe behaves under certain circumstances.
However, I'm sure you meant, "What made the universe that way?" The answer is one I've already given: "We don't know yet." We don't know even if an active agent was involved in the process.
lhvinny 5 days ago
@lhvinny @lhvinny "However, I'm sure you meant, "What made the universe that way?" The answer is one I've already given: "We don't know yet." We don't know even if an active agent was involved in the process."
So what right do ateist have to judge religous people when no one knows?
fkeopfkeop 5 days ago
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@fkeopfkeop "So what right do ateist have to judge religous people when no one knows?" Claims need justification. The religious, for the most part, assert the claim that their version of god (or gods, or the supernatural, etc.) exists as their holy book or dogma teaches them. Existence claims are justified via demonstrable manifesting evidence. Yet there is no demonstrable manifesting evidence for anything supernatural. If there were, it would be a field of scientific study.
lhvinny 5 days ago
@fkeopfkeop So logic and rational thinking alone justify criticism of religious claims. To paraphrase Carl Sagan, if I claimed that I had a pet dragon in my garage, would you not require me to justify that claim with evidence? Same goes for any claim, supernatural or otherwise, with regards to universal origins or anything else.
lhvinny 5 days ago
@fkeopfkeop Second, and more importantly, is what people do because of their religious views. Personally, I don't care what your religious beliefs are. What I do care about, however, is what you do because of those religious beliefs, especially if those actions directly impact my life or the lives of others.
I feel justified to criticize parents who trusted in faith healing for their 12 year old daughter who then died an agonizing death from a condition medical successfully treats.
lhvinny 5 days ago
@fkeopfkeop I feel justified to criticize those who use their religion as the basis for their removal of the teaching of fact-based scientific explanations of how the world works in the science classroom in favor of myth, legend and religious dogma. I feel justified to criticize those who want to legalize bigotry by calling it "defending the sanctity of marriage." I feel justified to point out when people are lying or misinformed because sharing accurate knowledge makes it better.
lhvinny 5 days ago
@fkeopfkeop "what created theese laws?" - this question is invalid because it presupposes that something created the laws.
ivancart15 5 days ago
@ivancart15 no question is invalid
fkeopfkeop 5 days ago
@fkeopfkeop "The only logical answer is something must have created it." No, it's not. The only logical answer to the question, until such time as we have evidence to support any idea about the origin of matter and energy, is to say "We don't know yet." Until we have evidence, assuming anything, including that it was not created or that it was, is unjustified.
Guess what, saying it was created also violates the very law you said prevented it from being created by the big bang.
lhvinny 5 days ago
@lhvinny "Guess what, saying it was created also violates the very law you said prevented it from being created by the big bang." That was my point.
fkeopfkeop 5 days ago
@fkeopfkeop You also are falsely assuming, since you addressed your question to atheists, that the creator must be a god. What prevents the creative force for the universe from being something other than a deity? Until we have evidence, there is no reason to assume a dichotomy between "God did it or the big bang did it" as you are proposing.
lhvinny 5 days ago
@lhvinny No, I'm not assuming it was God in that sense. Atheist comes from greek and means "without god, denies the gods, godless or left of the gods". If you open up to a deity if there is evidence of it your a realist, not an atheist.
fkeopfkeop 5 days ago
@fkeopfkeop Scientific realism to be more precise.
fkeopfkeop 5 days ago
@fkeopfkeop I agree that atheism is "without god." Someone who does not believe in gods is without god. I do not believe in gods. Therefore I am an atheist. There is a difference between not believing in gods and believing there are no gods. Both, however, are accurately described by the term "without god."
lhvinny 5 days ago
@lhvinny I did not know that the term ateist was that broad and that some atheist opens up to the possibility that there is a god or gods if it can be proven. Thanks for that.
fkeopfkeop 5 days ago
@fkeopfkeop You are most welcome for the correction about the information with regards to the actual position of most atheists, and I thank you for your willingness to hear and accept that position.
lhvinny 5 days ago
hahahahahah
That was a prank call, for sure!
Or, someone can be that dumb?
VoloBonja 5 days ago
The point that the caller is making is that there cannot be self awareness in an "instance". We must transcend time to some extent. The necessary creator of time and space must also be beyond time and space. Our vital characteristic is more like the creator's than like the physical universe that is locked in time. Cheers!
davidofmorris 5 days ago
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This is just an idea, and I'm not asserting anything but just wanted to throw it out there. Since life CAN come from non-life, supposedly it can according to science. Could it be possible that all powerful God could have just popped into being from NOTHING? I mean I know it's not likely at ALL but it's just something I thought of.
littlebit19801 6 days ago
many years ago people did not believe that there would be oxygen in air; "why should we believe in a presumption?" they fired at a person who made the oxygen hypothesis. What if "God existence" is an experiment too difficult to make? much more difficult than oxygen-discovering experiment? atheism, is another faith or religion just as well.
MsIndependency 6 days ago
@MsIndependency Atheism is not the assertion that god does not exist. Your straw man is exposed and burned.
And by "many years ago" you mean the 2nd century BCE right, meaning 2200 years ago, right? No one was "fired" or scrutinized for thinking that oxygen exists. You completely made that up. I suggest you avoid lying and making stuff up if you want people to take you seriously.
lhvinny 6 days ago
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MsIndependency 5 days ago
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@lhvinny atheism is an assertion that god does not exist. It's opposite to "theism". They themselves don't do any experiments to prove if God exists. And they incessantly deter people from doing experiment if God exist. they are extremely pessimistic guys.. Your lecturing is not convincing.
MsIndependency 5 days ago
@MsIndependency "atheism is an assertion that god does not exist." It doesn't matter how many times you repeat it. It does not make it true. According to the vast majority of those who label themselves as atheists, they simply do not believe in gods. They do not claim that no gods exist.
If you are dead-set on using "atheist" to mean someone who claims there is no god, then provide an alternative term for those who simply to not believe in gods.
lhvinny 5 days ago
@lhvinny uhhh, agnostic
TheGp19 5 days ago
@TheGp19 Gnosticism and agnosticism deal with knowledge (that's what the root "gnostic" means). Knowledge and belief are not the same thing. One can believe in a god, but not know a god exists (agnostic theist). One can also believe in a god and claim to know that it exists (gnostic theist). One can also not believe in a god and claim to know that god does not exist (gnostic atheist). My position is agnostic atheist, where I don't believe but I don't claim to know no god exists.
lhvinny 5 days ago
@TheGp19 You cannot use a word that addresses the concept of knowledge to deal with the concept of belief. Please find another word.
lhvinny 5 days ago
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@MsIndependency "It's opposite to "theism"." No it's not. Anti-theism is the opposite of theism. Just like immoral is the opposite of moral. Amoral is to moral as atheist is to theist. It means "without," not "opposed to" or "opposite of." This is basic English.
"They themselves don't do any experiments to prove if God exists." This is a lie. The James Randi Foundation has conducted multiple experiments to try to find out if the supernatural, including gods, exist.
lhvinny 5 days ago
@MsIndependency "And they incessantly deter people from doing experiment if God exist." On the contrary, I invite people to give me suggestions as to experiments I can do in order to confirm that a certain deity exists. I want to know the truth with regards to the existence of deities, no matter if that truth confirms my current ideas or negates them. I care more about knowing the truth than confirming my pre-conceived notions.
lhvinny 5 days ago
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@MsIndependency "And they incessantly deter people from doing experiment if God exist." On the contrary, I invite people to give me suggestions as to experiments I can do in order to confirm that a certain deity exists. I want to know the truth with regards to the existence of deities, no matter if that truth confirms my current ideas or negates them. I care more about knowing the truth than confirming my pre-conceived notions.
lhvinny 5 days ago
@MsIndependency "they are extremely pessimistic guys" Based on what?
"Your lecturing is not convincing." That's a shame. Typically when one is corrected, one should be humble enough to recognize they made a mistake and at least be willing to learn from it. I'm sorry you have chosen to not do this and maintain the misconceptions of atheists that you had before I corrected you. I hope you change your mind after this set of replies.
lhvinny 5 days ago
The Atheist Experience needs to get a "tard whisperer.
TomVodkaCollins 6 days ago 16
@TomVodkaCollins isnt that what atheists are?
ZLi0n 5 days ago
That Cesar is an oxygen thief.
raiansama 6 days ago
I have a hypothesis on why religion propagates so freely. It's because it is extremely difficult (if not impossible) to imagine that you won't experience anything after you die. Try to imagine not being able to think or imagine or reason. It's very difficult indeed. However I am still an atheist, because I am reasonably sure that an after life is evidently not true.
MaggotKing9 6 days ago
At 10.20 I almost wept for this christian nut job, because Matt Dillahunty explained this scenario so well that even a retarded baby elephant, kept in a refridgerated cupboard for 13 years, molested by priests and beaten everyday by knights from the middle age on horses having a jousting competion with lances made from eucalyptus trees and sheet metal, could have understood this rational, pattern of thought.
xTheuglytruthx 6 days ago
Hi, Im Cesar, and I got dropped on my head when I was a young baby.
xTheuglytruthx 6 days ago
Dolphins are also self aware.
xTheuglytruthx 6 days ago
Cesar needs to go look at the depleted uranium babies being born in Iraq, if he thinks DNA is a language. And this was perpetuated by christians in America. Their mere existance would be evidence that there is no caring god. that suffering is beyond belief.
beastshawnee 1 week ago
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The Atheist Experience are a bunch of cowardly hypocrites, they block you if you raise reasonable sensible points for discussion, they don't actually want any kind of "debate" in reality but only need the extremist fundamentalist to call up so they can make an arse of them; they become exactly like the institutions and people they attack and criticise
no1hoopsman 1 week ago
@impmaryjane Who created god?
mikypi3151592 1 week ago
Every created thigs have a creator.. GOD created the universe and everything within it.
impmaryjane 1 week ago
@impmaryjane and Im the pope of mars.
weedbeast13 1 week ago 9
@impmaryjane Wrong
jibbajon1 1 week ago
@impmaryjane and so are the unicorns, fairy godmothers, fairy god fathers, the toothfairy.. etc
Jinglepify 1 week ago
You know shit's about to go down when Matt looks down at the mute button.
DirThboi 1 week ago
Cesar sounds like a poor Latino who will believe anything for a sandwich.
LongBow1600 1 week ago
I would love to be on this show. I am atheist and have been since the 7th grade. I respect religious people, but I'm willing to always argue with them. Caesar sounds like a good guy, but he's been brainwashed by religion. See ya!
eagleflyer775 1 week ago
Gotta love Caesar. No matter how utterly weak his arguments are, he is completely undettered by reason.
Caesar is proof that people define their god into existence based on nothing more than their want to.
MrKeenoRossi 1 week ago
All supernatural evidence proves the mind exists apart from the body.
Exorcisms & ghosts verify what people experience when they die and are resuscitated. I watched a chilling episode of Paranormal Files: The Girl without a Face. This family keep seeing the young girl on the road walking while they were DRIVING, then stop and start talking to her. She turns to them and she has NO FACE! Goosebumps! A girl died right on that last spot and lost her face in the accident. She's o.k. now. 8)
shizzleman8 1 week ago
life is carbon based. Diamonds and pencil 'lead' (graphite) are also carbon based. Diamonds and pencil 'lead' form crystals naturally.
moldrad 1 week ago
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intelligence in nature does not necessary imply there has to be a God to start this all...i'm a deist but even i know this. Fuck people with their stupid scientific claims for your faith. It's just a faith. Admit it people!
Casshyr 1 week ago
Deoxyribonucleic acid - a language ??? WTF IS DNA :)
TheTenshitobias 1 week ago
My best reason is psychokinesis has been proved. dfpolis #22 The Mind Body Problem
The mind exists apart from the body. It's been proven experimentally in millions upon millions of experiments.
shizzleman8 1 week ago
@shizzleman8 You mean "proven" with anecdotal evidence millions of times.
If PK truely exists it would likely violate much more solidly proven physical lawas, such as the second law of thermodynamics, the inverse square law, and conservation of momentum.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but if you could show me these millions of experiments I would appreciate it.
Chayraz2 1 week ago