these air motors have such a high rpm rating because they r ultra torque air compressors, so they work in revers by trading torque for rpm, thats what i was tryn to say
to date my favorate all time movie of yours is the high voltage mots connected to induction motors from house hold apliances creating the highest rpm motors
i figured something out about scroll motors , they r very low torq and high rpm, very high rpm, hey ed , i gota cool vid idea for you if you run outa ideas, your stress testing vids r by far the most exsiting and valuble to me, knowing waht you cant do is very important, you should stress test a scroll compressore air motor, run the hell outa it and do an autopsy, sry for my spelling , im totaly iliterate
@Johnnie619 if they could fine tune the design and supply enough air , I see no reason why it could not exceed the power of a reciprocating engine, albeit a steam engine.
thing is people want the most power these days, but if they are willing to forgo that, it could work ( as long as its not dangerously slow and becomes a traffic hazzard )
a thorium reactor system that drives a stainless steel scroll engine with steam would be great. reactor fueled and sealed for life, just add water :D
Very impressive work. I am trying to do the same with a Mitsubishi FX80 scroll compressor, but it won't turn at all when I supply air in the outlet. Do you thing there is a one way valve or something else stopping it rotating? The funny thing is it works fine when I supply air in the compressor inlet, rotating and all... Really strange. Keep up the videos, they' re really nice!
When the scroll is removed from the housing can it still be used as a refrigerant compressor? In other words, could one use an engine to drive the scroll? I'm interested in devising an cooling system for a home by freezing a large quantity of ice in a high insulated storage space by operating a refrigeration system intermittently, and I wish it to be purely mechanical.
@vaticinus It can change direction but only when air is forced into the exhaust side. since there are large gaps all round that wasn't possible without making a tubular manifold that sealed up the outside of the compressor.
very little with the amount of air I was supplying. I tried it with a full 1/2" line in @ 120psi and it was strong enough to turn over a 4cyl engine under compression.
only drawback is that torque only lasts as long as the tank, in this case only 10 seconds.
Can you show the workings of the Cycloid converter, The part that is in between the motor and the scroll pump itself. The one That convert the spinning motion of the motor into the oscillating motion for the scroll. You showed the eccentric lobe part of it but i would like to see the part that allows the scroll head to move both in X and Y positions without letting the scroll head rotate in anyway.
Heres an idea. take two compressors, one very big and one really small do the mod reqyired on the small one to make it run as a air motor, then connect it to the discharge of the big one, maybe that could work. May be worth a try.
i wonder if you had left the motor windings in place and somehow energized them so that they act as a magnet then it would make a cool air powered generator.
that is fkn cool bro,you should do an indurance test on an old junker,i am very impressed with this,and also remember
that high rpm devices can wear all to hell and still run,, yes they loos efficiancy but i bet you that little sucker would run for a year,and i have some ideas that need a cheap device like this i want to run steam power oil,meaning steam pressure forces oil threw the air motor ,the fact its free is eye popping ,great vid bro ,fkn gold brotha
I imagine with a supply line oiler and bearing oil cups (or rebored for bearing races) they would last a long time.
I was watching videos on the Copland scroll compressors and apparently they "Wear In, not out" which seems to have merit since both mating surfaces of the scrolls can wear and mate up to each other again as long as there is axial pressure applied to the moving scroll via the motor spindle.
Using steam to push oil is sort of like Nitrogen in a hydraulic accumulator pushing the oil out and into the cylinder or motor. as long as there is a piston or diaphragm in the accumulator to keep the steam from contaminating the oil it will work!
Geez! Now i want one of these :( Where can i get a scroll assembly like this ? Not a whole compressor but just the part you are holding in your hand and possibly the rotor shaft.
I don't know what that little scroll compressor came out of since it came to me in a bin with other used compressors, but I'm guessing a large household AC unit or commercial coolroom condenser.
surely theirs a scrap man near you who isn't a complete asshole and will let you buy/take/trade a old compressor or whole unit.
dont you have air motor vids on rotory vain compressors, like the kind in dehumidifiers
NOBOX7 1 month ago
these air motors have such a high rpm rating because they r ultra torque air compressors, so they work in revers by trading torque for rpm, thats what i was tryn to say
NOBOX7 1 month ago
to date my favorate all time movie of yours is the high voltage mots connected to induction motors from house hold apliances creating the highest rpm motors
NOBOX7 1 month ago
hope you can read that , i type to fast and dont bother corecting, i figure your samrt man and no what i mean
NOBOX7 1 month ago
i figured something out about scroll motors , they r very low torq and high rpm, very high rpm, hey ed , i gota cool vid idea for you if you run outa ideas, your stress testing vids r by far the most exsiting and valuble to me, knowing waht you cant do is very important, you should stress test a scroll compressore air motor, run the hell outa it and do an autopsy, sry for my spelling , im totaly iliterate
NOBOX7 1 month ago
The small one sounds absolutely hilarious!
Sevillian273 1 month ago
They should start making car motors with scroll engines
Johnnie619 4 months ago
@Johnnie619 if they could fine tune the design and supply enough air , I see no reason why it could not exceed the power of a reciprocating engine, albeit a steam engine.
thing is people want the most power these days, but if they are willing to forgo that, it could work ( as long as its not dangerously slow and becomes a traffic hazzard )
a thorium reactor system that drives a stainless steel scroll engine with steam would be great. reactor fueled and sealed for life, just add water :D
Aussie50 4 months ago
The sound is awesome!
DawwwidW 8 months ago
Great sounds. The big scroll is one helluva mother*ucker!
zaprodk 9 months ago
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Great sounds
zaprodk 9 months ago
Great sound
zaprodk 9 months ago
the small one soudsn like a mosnter from spore...
Si3z3 1 year ago
can you post a vid or link to a vid that shows the disassembly process? I need to do an automotive compressor.
cmcgonag 1 year ago
Very impressive work. I am trying to do the same with a Mitsubishi FX80 scroll compressor, but it won't turn at all when I supply air in the outlet. Do you thing there is a one way valve or something else stopping it rotating? The funny thing is it works fine when I supply air in the compressor inlet, rotating and all... Really strange. Keep up the videos, they' re really nice!
alfadog777 1 year ago
@alfadog777 G'day!, I'd say your compressor has a reed valve on the discharge thats stopping air going back through the system from the discharge.
only way to overcome that is to cut the top off and physically remove it.
Aussie50 1 year ago
XD the little one sounds like one of those toy guns. the bigger one sounds like someones plopping around in water!
hellsmaw84 1 year ago
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mariasman100 1 year ago
When the scroll is removed from the housing can it still be used as a refrigerant compressor? In other words, could one use an engine to drive the scroll? I'm interested in devising an cooling system for a home by freezing a large quantity of ice in a high insulated storage space by operating a refrigeration system intermittently, and I wish it to be purely mechanical.
mariasman100 1 year ago
Ahaha i love the sound of it that is something else
walkingfreak 1 year ago
does it always turn in the same direction or can you switch it from counter clock wise to clockwise??
vaticinus 1 year ago
@vaticinus It can change direction but only when air is forced into the exhaust side. since there are large gaps all round that wasn't possible without making a tubular manifold that sealed up the outside of the compressor.
Aussie50 1 year ago
does is have any torque?
cheetawolf 1 year ago
very little with the amount of air I was supplying. I tried it with a full 1/2" line in @ 120psi and it was strong enough to turn over a 4cyl engine under compression.
only drawback is that torque only lasts as long as the tank, in this case only 10 seconds.
Aussie50 1 year ago
I have a copeland 230V scroll compressor,do you think it is posible to replace the motor with a dc motor?I have a permanent magnet dc 120v,2hp.
jbl300 1 year ago
I strongly doubt it, it would only work if the motor fits the casing/shaft. and is brushless, and designed to operate immersed in refrigerant/oil
IMO it would be easier, cheaper and safer to buy a new DC scroll compressor.
Aussie50 1 year ago
put an in line oilier to the input to scroll compressor it probably would lube it quite well please make a video in it
Tomthetoolman100 2 years ago
the big one is long gone, and the small one is missing its center bushing.
they are too under powered for any reasonable task anyway.
Aussie50 2 years ago
no prob
Tomthetoolman100 2 years ago
you could try connecting the out put in to the impute using a one way valve
Tomthetoolman100 2 years ago
this is how i want a plasma gun to sound
mxmang 2 years ago
i love that sound popopopo plop AHAHHAHA
animebsd 2 years ago
gracias from europe
TheFenix974 2 years ago
Can you show the workings of the Cycloid converter, The part that is in between the motor and the scroll pump itself. The one That convert the spinning motion of the motor into the oscillating motion for the scroll. You showed the eccentric lobe part of it but i would like to see the part that allows the scroll head to move both in X and Y positions without letting the scroll head rotate in anyway.
joyange1 2 years ago
how would the big one do at say 500-1000 psi ?
67tr876 2 years ago
pretty well I imagine. I don't have the tank capacity to test it properly unfortunately :(
Aussie50 2 years ago
LMAO POP POP PLOP PLOP i love the sound
30GB 2 years ago
Heres an idea. take two compressors, one very big and one really small do the mod reqyired on the small one to make it run as a air motor, then connect it to the discharge of the big one, maybe that could work. May be worth a try.
diymania 2 years ago
it would be a good way to make a motor where no other motor exists.
The discharge from my new scroll compressor's is pretty good, I could feed it into the Mitsubishi rotary.
Aussie50 2 years ago
i wonder if you had left the motor windings in place and somehow energized them so that they act as a magnet then it would make a cool air powered generator.
HDXFH 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure with normal AC motors like the one here, they need to be ran at 1.5X their rated output speed to generate power?
it'll consume a horrendous amount of air at high speeds, but could be ran off steam provided it is protected from rusting somehow.
If there were such a thing as a stainless steel scroll it would make a awesome steam engine.
Aussie50 2 years ago
that is fkn cool bro,you should do an indurance test on an old junker,i am very impressed with this,and also remember
that high rpm devices can wear all to hell and still run,, yes they loos efficiancy but i bet you that little sucker would run for a year,and i have some ideas that need a cheap device like this i want to run steam power oil,meaning steam pressure forces oil threw the air motor ,the fact its free is eye popping ,great vid bro ,fkn gold brotha
NOBOX7 2 years ago 2
I'm glad you like it!, i knew you would!. :D
I imagine with a supply line oiler and bearing oil cups (or rebored for bearing races) they would last a long time.
I was watching videos on the Copland scroll compressors and apparently they "Wear In, not out" which seems to have merit since both mating surfaces of the scrolls can wear and mate up to each other again as long as there is axial pressure applied to the moving scroll via the motor spindle.
Aussie50 2 years ago
Using steam to push oil is sort of like Nitrogen in a hydraulic accumulator pushing the oil out and into the cylinder or motor. as long as there is a piston or diaphragm in the accumulator to keep the steam from contaminating the oil it will work!
Aussie50 2 years ago
Awesome video mate, that lil one has sum serious rpm going on lol.
cheers
mattyvt93 2 years ago
if I can't find the rotor for it I may do a destruction test and see how long it lasts at full noise!, provided the air supply keeps up.
Aussie50 2 years ago
cool sounds good!
mattyvt93 2 years ago
wa hahahah! that little one is the shit!!
pixuma 2 years ago
I'll have to see if I have the rotor, that will slow it down a bit but I expect it will make a cool high speed motor.
Aussie50 2 years ago
that small one is off its nut. set it up and put a lot of air to it(130psi or more) and see what flys off.lol
V8Jagnut 2 years ago
Geez! Now i want one of these :( Where can i get a scroll assembly like this ? Not a whole compressor but just the part you are holding in your hand and possibly the rotor shaft.
diymania 2 years ago
I don't know what that little scroll compressor came out of since it came to me in a bin with other used compressors, but I'm guessing a large household AC unit or commercial coolroom condenser.
surely theirs a scrap man near you who isn't a complete asshole and will let you buy/take/trade a old compressor or whole unit.
Aussie50 2 years ago