Talk between Jin Matsubara and Shoichi Watanabe(1-2)

[toddviv]

@Ferior how could you say that? I say Japan should at least apologise and acknowledge their disgusting behaviour. Let us not forget those innocent people that died and expose those liars that say it didnt happen

[toddviv]

Japanese piece of shit shaving face. I am so glad for hiroshima and nagasaki bomb attacks the japanese derserved it!

[Embargoman]

First they blame the preachers then when a religous leader make them in their mind they blame the protestants this is why I say if they are telling the truth I bet the Chinese might be liars if it is not proven by papay authority if a Japanese guy takes control if it is I say let Justice be serve put these war criminals to jail and throw away the key.

As you want to compare a future event with the OJ SImpson case I'll say OJ did not kill Nicole Brown and Goldman.

[Embargoman]

This can be a true argument as it is when it is conspiracy I am threw with this for now I can't tell if it is bullshit as they do did wrong well Japan might have a trial against these war criminals at the first place but first when a pope from Japan gets in Rome he has to have an approval that they did wrong.

[ryunbaik]

1976 Japan stopped all foreign archeologist from studying the Gosashi tomb which is suppose to be the resting place of Emperor Jingu. Recently in 2008, Japan has allowed controlled limited access to foreign archeologists, but the international community still has many unanswered questions. National Geographics wrote "Japan has kept access to the tombs restricted, prompting rumors that officials fear excavation would reveal bloodline links between the "pure" imperial family and Korea."

[moello888]

The imperial family didn´t stem from Korean trive ,but from another trive (= "Bunn"-tribe). I think it would be malicious to spread such faulty rumours as quoted by you inthe above.

[ryunbaik]

sure. you can always claim without evidence. you going to try and distort National Geographics discovery? =/

[moello888]

NG was an authority once. Trustworthiness of ther writings is totally another thing..Never have thought who sponsors NG,,?

[kounodaisaikou]

according to official document , the league of nations did not adopt nanking massacre at that time ! why ? chinese command , please tell me !

[skiercrossing611]

Japanes man like drink woman menses blood!! And they like to keep woman underwear!! Japan is a doggie country!!!

[cgspirit17]

Lying Dog,,,fucking japanese shit !

[gondwana]

Recently IHT quote AP and reported that Korean president pledged in January 10 to the prime minister of Japan what they never ask in the future an apology and compensation for the comfort women of Japan.

[gondwana]

Correction: Recently IHT quote AP and reported that Korean president has pledged in January 10 to the prime minister of Japan that they never demand an apology and compensation for comfort women from Japan in future.

[scasey1223]

The war is behind us and we should leave it there, nothing positive will come from debating these issues. Japanese are NOT seen as evil or murderers, you can not hold a people responsible for the sins of their grandfathers. Look at Japan, it has one of the best economies, one of the lowest crime rates, and are on the forefront of developing new technology. America enslaved black people 150 years ago, does that make me responsible and evil because of that. The Japanese are a great people!!!!!!!!

[rockin45o]

china

fuck

[jack090ass]

Japanes is American Doggie!!

[jack090ass]

Japanes is American Doggie!!

[holmesone]

Those that lose a war are condsidered 'war criminals', and those that win are 'heroes'. They both do the same thing; which is kill, destroy, rape, torture, and maim in order to achieve their goals. Many Chinese were killed and tortured in the war, and many Japanese paid the price in the long run. Such is the nature of war. The important thing is not to rewrite or even accept history (because those that write it write it for their own reasons), but to accept human nature for what it is.

[BoycottFrance2008]

damn japanese deny all those awful things they did to china. there is evidence, photo,video, and statements from victims and japanese soldiers.

whats next? the japanese was never involved in ww2????

[iam980hist]

松原 仁~正法を誹謗するを重罪とす」死後に極楽往生

大阿鼻地獄の苦、1000倍もあるという。剣樹、刀山、湯などの­苦しみを絶え間（寸 分・刹那）なく受ける。この無間地獄の寿命の 長短は1中劫という。1中劫とは、この人寿無量歳なりしが100­年に一寿を減じ、また100年に一寿を減ずるほどに、人寿10歳 の時に減ずるを一減という。

[warawara]

侵略侵略言う奴は当時の政治的状況を知って言ってるのか？？日中­戦争は誰が起こしたと思ってるんだ？

いつも中国人からけしかけてるじゃないか？

お前らが戦争したかったんじゃないか？いつもいつも人のせいにし­やがって卑怯な中国人め

[wingchuntaiji]

日本人は中国の侵入の歴史を変えるべきでない。これらの戦争犯罪­を否定するためにそれは倫理的でない!

[ofn3]

Thnaks for easy-to-understand video. Actually they were too kind to chinese.

[Flyaaaa]

ofn3:

A Taiwanese person sucking Jap dick? Umm, not exactly a super surprise, after being ruled by the Jap for 50 years. But this particular comment is quite surprising.

[Flyaaaa]

Well ofn3, as a taiwanese, why you want to suck up to the Japanese people so much is NOT easy to understand.

[ofn3]

Anyone is much better than you, idiot.

[markfeng66]

lolll "anyone is much better than you"..

Brilliant three years old retort. Now to think of it. you're probably not even a true Taiwanese. The Taiwanese I know are smarter than this. Maybe a dirty mix with some unknown blood.

[markfeng66]

Oh ya by the way this is Flyaaaa.

[utyoobie]

'the evidence is still overwhelming that atrocities were perpetrated by the members of the Japanese armed forces against the civilian population of some of the territories occupied by them as also against the prisoners of war.'

「残虐行為は日本軍がその占領したある地域の一般民衆、はたまた　戦時ふ虜に対し犯したものであるという証拠は圧倒的である」

- ラダ・ビノード・パール

Justice Pal's quote will always stand forever to honour the unrefutable truth of Japanese militant atrocities. No one can ever erase that.

[cuda01]

If so, you should show us specifically on what grounds he said that. What is the evidence that he said "still overwhelming"?

This is not a religious matter whether we believe him or not.

[utyoobie]

Ah, cuda san. I'm glad you are safe. Something strange happened!

We talked halfway last night and suddenly my comments vanished, but yours are still here. I wonder who did it and why?

Your lucky stars were saved you one reply. And just in the nick of time.

Did you archive my comments? I wonder if you are graceful enough to refresh them for my poor memory?

If not, it's fine. It's not a matter of honour anyway. Yes, a pity, but don't sweat over it - who'd keep an archive, isn't it?

[cuda01]

I'm sorry, but I don't keep your comments. I don't know the reason, too. They may be restored after a while.

[utyoobie]

My comments are lost forever:

1. Was Pal biased against the militants?

He's a nationalist against the Wests, and vocally suspicious of the trial.

2. Was he misled by propaganda?

He explicitly accounted for exaggeration and propaganda - he stressed this just before the quote.

3. Was it a careless remark?

He put this quote in an official document after months of scrutiny and deliberation.

Ok, this "offensive" comment may disappear again. Anyway, it's time for quality things in life. Take care.

[cuda01]

I ask you once more.

What does "the evidence" indicate that Pal stressed "it's still overwhelming" in that quote? It's proven evidence? Can you give examples?

[utyoobie]

Actually, the onus isn't on me to prove or show anything.

Look at trials, Pal, Matsui, witnesses, survivors, veterans (Allied and Imperial), Okinawans, Japanese protestors, and so on.

It's clear to many around the world, including Japanese. A few rights will say all are propaganda. That's not a very defensible position.

No grudge intended, no action needed - just delete these "offensive" comment.

[cuda01]

Okay... You insist the massacre is an accomplished fact and is beyond dispute. You don't wish to know the truth. Because Japan should be atrocious eternally. In short you are the 反日.

[utyoobie]

"Anti-Japan" is a strange label to apply here... If accurate, it will also include Japanese who

- acknowledge Nanking

- protest outside Yasukuni

- are Okinawans

- are conscientious veterans

- refuse to go Yasukuni (there is a famous case since 1978)

Acknowledging is not "anti-Japan". It's dangerous to honour the dead militant rights who misled Japan into invasion. It helps to prevent the same mistake.

No grudge... that's all.

[cuda01]

I don't remember asking what anti-Japan is.

You still affirm the massacre on the evidence not based on facts, without answering my question. It's the same as disgracing our ancestors who fought for Japan by a false charge, though you're never conscious. "反日" indicates such your irresponsible attitude to this matter.

May you be sensible!

[Flyaaaa]

cuda01, if you haven't noticed..utyoobie is also Japanese. Otherwise he wouldn't have called you cuda "san"...right,..so why would he 反日？....

[Flyaaaa]

utyoobie:

Oh lord, utyoobie,,I have been posting angry comments in these video until I see you comments. Most of the Japanese people on youtube want to deny these atrocities, and so far you're one of the few fair Japanese person I've seen.

I am really curious to find out, what is the opinion of the majority of the Japanese people on this issue?

*bow*

[cuda01]

There are a lot of new facts proven to be propaganda later. And excepting the propaganda concerned, not only Pal ,nobody was able to find out them at the trial.

You know that he also regarded the trial as a farce? What we can grasp from his document is he discharged his duties in the limited situation, as a judge. We regret that such character was not seen much from other ones.

[cuda01]

All the same, you say it must be right whatever Pal said.

But now, we know that the bases of the massacre for the Tokyo Trial were fake. And at the time, he wasn't able to suspect that.

watch?v=4LbVeadjSbo

We must recognize the fact.

[cuda01]

You always judge something by not the word but the person???

Pal was not God but a respectable person. He doesn't lose his trust even if he was making some mistake. Yesterday, I explained why he was misunderstanding at that time. I think it was unimaginable for him that U.S. journalism conspired with Chinese propaganda.

[cuda01]

1. American newspaper articles (ex."The Story of the Nanking Massacre" in the Chicago Daily News)

2. "What is War?", published by the Chinese Nationalist Party Central Propaganda Division

These 2, proved to be propagandas later, became the only basis of the massacre for the Tokyo Trial. Pal judged from only them (and unreliable hearsay evidence) and he said such a thing. In short, he was misunderstanding at that time.

watch?v=ecZHVNO0EAA

[iam980]

正法を誹謗するを重罪とす」死後に極楽往生

大阿鼻地獄の苦、1000倍もあるという。剣樹、刀山、湯などの­苦しみを絶え間（寸 分・刹那）なく受ける。この無間地獄の寿命の 長短は1中劫という。1中劫とは、この人寿無量歳なりしが100­年に一寿を減じ、また100年に一寿を減ずるほどに、人寿10歳­ の時に減ずるを一減という。

[frnthngbtthtrth]

Are you going to spend rest of your life repeating the lies and false stories?

Alas, ChiCom! There IS God!

[psychosisz]

Im chinese and i dont really hate the Japs. Most chinese are real shitty too you know. They sell out their own people, even if they say their patriots. Peace for all.

[ChriMuz]

How can you say that!!!!

I AM A FILIPINO!

Just how can you believe a Country that is lying! and how can you throw EVERY TRUTH that Are being SPOKEN???!!!

The 12 countries that has been victimized HAS almost HAS THE EXACT SAME STORIES OF what the japanese DID to THEYRE PEOPLE!

IS THERE ANY COUNTRY THAT CAN SAY THAT THE JAPANSES HAS BEEN GOOD TO THEM?????

NONE IN ANY DOCUMENT!!!!

[frnthngbtthtrth]

Are there any ordinary people in Asia who say the Japanese have been brutal to them????

You seem to have been completely deceived by the malicious propaganda against Japan. Have an eye to see through the truth in the past by its fruits.

[ChriMuz]

Are you an IDIOT?

The ORDINARY PEOPLE of THOSE COUNTRIES that has been Victimized by JAPAN are the ones WHO ARE COMPLAINING AND SHOUTING!

MY grand FATHER IS ONE OF THEM!

My Grand Father also has a Very interesting story That KOREANS has HELPED the filipinos Fight The JAPANESE!

HE also told stories that KOREANS helped them by covering the Filipinos Below theyre bodies just to protect The FILIPINOS!

The Japanese WANTS POWER BEFORE AND UNTIL NOW!

Thats all they want...!

[frnthngbtthtrth]

You are one of the typical Koreans.

Ok, just stay in your fantasy, foever without facing the truth.

I wonnt bother you.

[ChriMuz]

Im a FILIPINO!!!!!!!!!

URGGGGGGGGGGH.......

[frnthngbtthtrth]

Do not make yourself a target of laghter of honest and well-informed people.

You ARE a Korean!

[ChriMuz]

You should think what your saying....

what if you where in nanking and what if those japanese people killed you parents and you brother or sister by stabing them?

Would you just say " oh its ok it was the past anyway"

What if you where a victim?

and you hear people saying

" the rape of nanking was a FAKE "

Would you have anymore hope to get the justice?

We all know that japan made ATROCITIES and they are the worst...so lets think before we do or say something about this SENSITIVE ISSUE

[chapsroc]

Nanking, what Nanking?

Japan will be vaporized in WWIII for tactical reason, and Nanking has nothing to do with it. All you rightwing japs keep on licking up to the Americans you will get what you asked for.

All good Japanese people should leave Japan now while you can.

[18seki]

I knew that the Rape of Nanking was fake!

[ChriMuz]

Thats because your a japanese,...

that so simple isnt it???

[18seki]

ChriMuz, sorry to inform you that I am not Japanese. I am speaking from an objective and detached third-party point of view.

[ChriMuz]

You should think what your saying....

what if you where in nanking and what if those japanese people killed you parents and you brother or sister by stabing them?

Would you just say " oh its ok it was the past anyway"

What if you where a victim?

and you hear people saying

" the rape of nanking was a FAKE "

Would you have anymore hope to get the justice?

[18seki]

ChriMuz, and what if you had done nothing wrong yet you are labeled a war criminal? There are two sides to any argument. You must be either Chinese or Korean.

[ChriMuz]

How can you say that!!!!

I AM A FILIPINO!

Just how can you believe a Country that is lying! and how can you throw EVERY TRUTH that Are being SPOKEN???!!!

The 12 countries that has been victimized HAS almost HAS THE EXACT SAME STORIES OF what the japanese DID to THEYRE PEOPLE!

IS THERE ANY COUNTRY THAT CAN SAY THAT THE JAPANSES HAS BEEN GOOD TO THEM?????

NONE IN ANY DOCUMENT!!!!

[18seki]

ChriMuz, oh really? How come I don't hear much news about complaints from Thais, Indonesians, Burmese or Indians about the Japanese atrocities?

[ChriMuz]

ITS IS VERY CLEAR HEAR IN ASIA ABOUT THE COMPLAINTS and SOME has been Adopted into movies!

Japan of course will not allow any anti-japanese Comments to be shown in theyre media!

Thats how it is in japan everything that will

destroy theyre lies will be banned!

[18seki]

ChriMuz, I see, since something was presented in movies, those events must be true. Nice logic. I think I'll go looking for Luke Skywalker now, NOT!

[truth2011]

The Chinese Nationalist Party got a vast fund from a financial combine along Yangtze River in those days.

So Chinese fascists were very rich.

Be not deceived by Chinese fascists and communists. Intellectual persons should read Japanese argument fairly.The title of the book on amazon is "The Alleged Nanking Massacre : Japan's rebuttal to China's forged claims".

sdh-fact(dot)com　

[NukedNipDipShit]

無恥的矮奴豬。

可恥的戰敗國。

日本矮奴是狗養的豬。

吃屎長大的臭蘿蔔頭。

[chapsroc]

In China, moutains are high up in the cloud, rivers are deep and wide, land is vast and open. Enemies come and goes from w/in and w/out. From Mongols horsmen, to British opium pushers, to Japanese baby killers. All were evils fully evicted by the Chinese people.

Forgive? may be. Forget? NEVER.

May my Buddha bless and guide the Chinese people as we march toward the future.

[cuda01]

No. Perhaps, you don't wanna believe this. There aren't any lies in this video crip. Their utterances are well-grounded.

[tomitomi0391166]

May be you can see the truth from The figure of both countries .But they can't touch the truth.

[Nattouichiban]

as always, cowardy crybaby chinks rattle off a barefaced

LIE.

[jjwoojoseph]

Shoichi Watanabe is depriving himself of any credibility. JAPANESE journalists at the time described wide-scale mass execution of hundreds of thousands of Chinese civilians. Slaughtered for entertainment. There are video footages & journals of beheading competitions, people roasted by fire, young girls to old women dragged to be raped, females with nipples cut off, bamboo sticks rammed up vaginas, babies with eyes gorged out.

[takakazushin]

When time shall have softened the passion and prejudice, when the reason shall have stripped the mask from misrepresentation, then justice, holding evenly her seals, will require much of past censures and praise to change places.

Justice Radhabinod Pal

[Nattouichiban]

Do you know who's the worst idiotic judge in the tokyo tribunal ?

yea, it's Australian idiot William Flood Webb, haha.

[stevos000]

how boring is this GET RID OF THIS CRAP

[Aerosil4]

I can't believe this... It's absolutely disgusting, these two puppets of Japanese propaganda actually think they're correct. Hopefully they won't be so shameless in the near future.