what engine do you have in this truck? what radiator did you use? stock or aftermarket if aftermarket what size and did you have to make any frame mods?
It had a 6.5 Detroit in this video, but it has a 2005 Duramax in it now. It has an aftermarket 31x19 dual core aluminum radiator and the entire frame has been extensively modified to accept the engine, radiator and suspension and to be able to handle the extra power.
and I thought throwing a linked dana 60 under a silverado was a big project.....sweet ride....and the engineering is impressive. fantastic job. Will it be a show or go truck? I vote for GO......
Thanks man, it will be both actually. I'm building it to do everything well. It has 4.11 gears and 38's so it will effortlessly run 75 on the turnpike and the Duramax/Allison combo will be very efficient and VERY powerful. It has a reciever hitch out back and a gooseneck hitch in the bed for trailers. I have stacked 241 cases that help provide 94:1 gearing for rock crawling on the weekends. The air-ride helps it ride like a Caddy and support any load. It's my for everything truck.
Saving the paint for last though, gotta get all of the fabrication done first, but I will be starting on the body work soon. Thinking Synergy Green with Black flares and bumpers????
That's exactly my thoughts on the color too. The truck was always white with black flares and I always intended to paint it back like that, but it has been modified so extensively and is "loud" just in what it has become so I was thinking that a loud color like Synergy Green would kinda fit it.
Also, is it better to have a diesel or gas engine for off-roading? Big or small diesel engine? I have friends who own 4x4s w/ small & big block gas engines. I guess its an Okie thing. I've seen Suzuki Samurais & Sidekicks w/ small diesel engines w/ really low gears. They can't really drive that fast. Don't know why?
It's really up to the owner IMO. Gassers in general are lighter, rev faster and far easier to install. Most use the smaller diesel that don't make much power and suffer at high speeds like you mentioned. I have a buddy with a 4bt in an S10 that will run 80mph effortlessly and accelerates as fast as it did with the 4.3. The diesel engines are nearly always more fuel efficient, but are (usually) noisy, stink and the fuel costs more. I choose a diesel because I tow stuff with this
truck, run it down the highway on long trips (sometimes loaded) and I just prefer a diesel. It had a 6.5 Detroit in it in this video, I'm just finishing up swapping in an '05 LLY Duramax/Allison combo and with this diesel (with EFI-Live) it will be capable of 22-25mpg hwy AND mid to low 11 second quarter mile runs with the turn of a knob, plus I can "detune" it so that it doesn't break itself when both transfer cases are in low range with 94:1 gearing when I'm playing in the rocks.
Cool truck, brother. I'd seen another diesel S10 dually on here. The guy says it was made by Chevrolet that way. Just type: 1985 s10 dually limited edition. There's no way it was made that way, right? I'm from Oklahoma & I've never seen one. Have ya'll?
I'll check out the video you mentioned and yes and no are my thoughts about it right now. Yes they offered a diesel engine in '84 and '85, but I have never seen a dually version, especially of that era. In the early 90's they did offer a version with a dually "looking" rear fender and used a startard offset 10" wide rear wheel that filled it, but never when the diesel's were offered.
Hey the air bag set up is genius. It gets allot of travel. How smooth does it ride? Im about to do a solid axle swap on my 2wd 6.5 suburban. I want to go air because coilovers are just to damn expensive. Plus the adjustability of the air is very nice...and its just cool.
Thats really Awsome. I have an 86 2wd s15 I really want to put a Diesel in it but I hear the 2.2 Isuzu is waste of time. I just wonder how I could bolt something in without killing my Grandchilds college funds.
Nothing will just bolt in but the one you mentioned. As far as spending a ton on it goes, it just depends on how patient you are. Total spent on the Duramax swap (not counting what I got out of parting and selling the 6.5 Detroit) is $2,400, after selling the stuff I pulled from it I'm out $445 so far. Just consistently watch CL and Ebay for deals and be ready to act when you see one.
@DieselS10 Man thak you so much for the reply. That Truck you got is awsome. My Problem is I also have an old CJ5 Jeep and that is Killing me. I would have probably had the the Money to get close to what you have done. Just the rear axle rebuild is over 1200 bucks. And my S15 runs and is way more street happy. Bad too the Bone truck you Got though.Peace
Not as much as you would think, I moved the column over, removed the HVAC for a Vintage Air unit, modified the passenger wheel well for the turbo, added the hydro-boost and the cut the hell out of the core support, lol. The core support required a lot of attention to fit a large enough radiator, condensor and inter-cooler, but I got it all behind the grill and the firewall wasn't touched.
Now the Duramax/Allison required extensive frame mods!
Lol, ever hear of ride quality? How about load capacity? What about load leveling capabilities? Maybe,,, articulation? Why build a one dimensional truck when it can ride like a Cadillac and support and level a loaded gooseneck trailer while riding like a Caddy AND have the ability to school most "hard-core" Jeeps off-road?
What's the point of being so close minded that you think air-ride is only for lowering trucks. Ever heard of a semi? What do you think supports most of them?
At a snails pace, lol. After two years of searching I finally found a dash harness from an '05 Duramax that I am going to get Wednesday. It will make the wiring a slam dunk and then I will just lack the fuel and tranny lines.
@DieselS10 Synergy Green Metallic....yes, yes, and yesss...I love that color. Loved it so much, I painted my sportbike that color. I think the GM paint code was GHS? i think?
No, it had a 6.5 Detroit/4L80e in this video, but I pulled it last year and am trying to finish swapping in a LLY Duramax/Allison. Got it all in there and mounted, just lack some wiring, fuel and tranny lines.
The 4l80e worked perfectly behind the Detroit. I don't think you could ever hurt one behind a 4bt as long as you don't go crazy with the torque #'s on it. If you are leaving it near stock to maybe 400 ft/lb or less you would probably be fine with the 4l60 as well. If you are leaving the power moderate you should consider the 700r4 as it doesn't require a stand-alone computer/harness to shift like the other two. Any 700 with the huge K on the bellhousing is a good candidate
@DieselS10 Well my thoughts were the larger turbo,spring and turning up the pump. I'm a noob when it comes to dieselstho. I been lurking on the 4bt forums but i'm still iffy on buying one for what i'm going to use it for. It's going to be used in a hot rod project. I'm just kinda stuck on the ideal of a 4bt in a car for some "wow" factor.
I really like the 4bt also. The only negative thing that I can say about them is that they vibrate horribly at idle. Would definitely be cool in a car too. You may be better off with a 4l80 for a hotrod project, just gonna cost a little more. The only cheaper way that I know of to run the 4l80 is to get the computer and harness from a '92 or '93 Chevy diesel automatic. Those 2 years ran a mechanical 6.5 with a stand-alone CPU/harness for the 4l80e.
A little thing called function. With springs soft enough to flex and ride good you can't haul a load. If they are stiff enough to haul a load they ride like crap and don't flex. With the medium duty bags it rides like a towncar, handles a load like a 1 ton and flexes like rock buggy. It's a truck and gets used like one.
Hmmm, that's actually one of the few things that I didn't specifically build it to do well, but like you said, if were lighter I and had better shocks I think it could do well at baja. As it is I think the unsprung weight would get to it.
Thank you. I haven't quite got it finished with the Duramax swap, still lack the fuel lines, tranny lines and more wiring..., I'll be posting a new video when it's finished though.
@DieselS10 easy swap? (electronically i mean) the mechanical portion would be similair to the 6.5 swap, which as i can see you have no problems with! some people like that 6.5/vp445.9 cummins/7.3 ford clack, but to me, noisy diesels are no fun, it attracts unwanted attention (police) and my nieghbors hate my cummins. (lol)
The wiring has been a pain, but it is probably because I am meshing the interior/dash harness from the '01 S10 dash that I put in it with the Duramax under hood fuse center, then using the Duramax cluster and BCM with the wrong harness. I will probably swap to an '05 D-max interior harness as soon as I locate one.
I enjoyed the 6.5 even with all of it's noise, but I'll never miss it when this one is finished, lol.
The mech portion for the D-max was a little more trouble.....
@DieselS10 well i know you can buy stand alone controllers for both the duramax, and the allison, but they come at a serious price. personally i think the fab work of makin a 03-07 dash work in the little s10 would be more work then reworking the guages on the little s10. theres what, 25 inputs on the 01 s10 dash?
lots of which wouldn't need to be attached, like airbags, and seatbelt lights.
seriously, the electrical work is simple, its finding the resources thats tough.
The electrical part is the part that I struggle with, lol. I just modified the '01 S10 dash to fit the '85, then I was able to mount the '05 D-max cluster in it soo that it looks factory in there, it was kinda fun. I haven't even counted the inputs. All that I want to work in the S10 dash is the gauges (d-max), odometer, PRNDL, head-light/dome switch, and everything in the '01 S10 column I'm using. From listening to you I'm wishing you lived close!
@DieselS10 haha that would be fun, since i dont have the money to do a swap like this myself! (silly snap on guy keeps conning me into buying tools dammit)
i'd do a lil more research, get a hold of some wiring diagrams and utilize forums. gm should be able to give you wiring diagrams!
im hoping to do a fummins someday, or a duramax in ford swap (not that common!)
Thank you and yes people tend to stare at it, especially when I've got a gooseneck trailer hooked to it, lol. It is very flexy, to much so when the sway bar is disconnected. I will be adding sway bars to the lower links that will stay connected when crawling to help out with off camber stability.
Build custom 4 link suspension front and rear with adjustable air springs/shocks.
Building all of it myself I have around $3,500 to $4,000 not counting the axles themselves. That's for end links, link material, long travel shocks, air springs, air ride controls, air lines, brakes lines, compressor, etc.
It has been built it so many stages that it's a tough call, but in it's state in this video, with years of good deals on parts I spent around $11,000 on it and I did all of it myself. Keep in mind that was with a new engine, tranny, twin cases, 1 ton axles,digital air ride, air bags, shocks, driveshafts, wiring, the extended cab, the bed, a frame stretch, dash, cluster, diesel fuel system, rear disc conversion, etc....
No, but I had to modify the passenger wheel well to clear the turbo for the Detroit that was in it in this video and I swapped that wheel well out for a stock one for the Duramax and it only had to be trimmed to clear the fuel filter.
Search my channel, there is a short one of just the rear suspension.
If you want to see more of the suspension and what now go the "It's Alive" thread in the Liftin It 4wd sfa section at S10Forum.com. there are tons of pics and some particulars there.
A lot! Everything including the diesel swap, the 4L80, twin 241 transfers, HP D60, 14 bolt, digital air-ride system, bags, shocks, adding the extended cab, the new bed, new dash, hydro-boost, link ends for the 4 links, etc set me back around $11K.
I got the engine and everything related from a donor truck.
i love it but id hate to see the money you have wrapped up in it. Awesome looking S10 man. Good luck with the Dmax hope everything comes together good for you.
Thanks, I have a lot in it, but probably not near as much as you would think since I do all of the work on it myself. I just really enjoy it so it's worth it to me. Now my wife, that's a whole different story, lol.
Yea i hear ya on that one I have 2 S10s and I spend a good bit of time working on them. I really like that Air-ride system, that's a smart way to build it to get that much travel out of it. The only question I have is, is that beast even road legal?
"Technically" yes and no I guess. At the height that I drive it around, which is just enough to turn without hitting the fenders, it is about 4 inches below the legal limit here. But, there isn't supposed to be any tires past the flares andthe outside edge of my Bushwackers are are centered on the 15 1/2" wide tires, so...
Good thing about here is that if you drive right the cops don't care. I drove it like that everyday for 2 years before I started this swap.
I'd take the body off and make a buggy out of it . Love the suspension , but looks like the drive line angle is steep when fully raised. Nice work but must've taken alot of hours.
Thanks, I do have a lot of time in it, working on it again now actually, I'm nearly finished with the Dmax/Ally swap.
It would make a good buggy with the 1 tons and twin cases, but I can't justify a trailer queen. I built it to ride good, tow good, handle loads well, be fast, efficient and crawl. The front driveline gets a little steep at full pressure, but it will never be driven there. It only gets that tall so that it has plenty of down travel when articulating.
@DieselS10 . ...I get the trailer queen reference , build them as such and they wont get much use.
On another note, I had a 96 GMC 2500 w/ a 6.5 diesel and in the video your motor sure sounds a 6.5 to me ? Post some videos of the DMAX Motor / Tranny swap.
That's exactly what's in it in this video, good ear! I have been thinking about filming it in it's current sttate just to show how things are coming together so far, I'll get one done and post it up.
I didn't build it to go up and down, it's just part of the game with air-ride. It's just all about function, a good ride, good load carrying capacity, load leveling, ease of loading a quad in the bed and tons of articulation for crawling. It's built to be used.
Yeah and that's exactly the kind of comment that I would expect from someone with a user name like yours. If your so "Ford" oriented check out some Ford videos instead of making jackass comments about vehicles that you don't have the first clue how to build. Retard.
Thats a bad ass s10 .. that must have taken a good bit of time and engineering to perfect the desired result. I have not watched any of your other videos yet, however If you havent already I would like to see that truck painted and set up with a winch and fog light bar. thats the serious off road s10. good job man. <3
Thank you, it has been a blast building. This is just the result of my wanting 1 vehicle that is fast, powerful, and smooth riding that can tow and support a good load and be efficient doing it, PLUS be able to school a descent amount of trailer queens in the rocks while being driven daily, lol.
It hasn't changed yet in appearance, but it will in time. I have been trying to get the Duramax/Allison swap completed, then it's time to make it pretty!
On that particular build, which involved the 1 tons, all of the air suspension, bags, shocks, digital air control, link material, rod ends, the 6.5 detroit, the 4l80, the transfer case doubler setup, the frame mods to get the extended cab on the with the long bed, the cab, new bed and everything to make it all work set me back about $11,000 and that's with me doing all of it.
I'm out another $1000 after selling the Detroit/4L80 out of it for the Duramax/Allison swap.
did you chop the frame to put the long bed on it?i was thinking of a similar setup for my truck but putting a v8 in it.it looks like you might of chopped it right above were the rear passenger side leaf spring used to be
No sir, all of the S10 junkers that I had access to were 2wd and the frames aren't nearly as tall as the 4wd frames, so I just bent a section for each side that perfectly matched the dimensions and corners. Then I fish plated it on the inside, then I took '77 K5 center frame section and laid them inside the S10 frame basically boxing it with double uppers and lowers and welded it all in. Then I boxed the rear section and added crossmembers wherever I could. It's RIGID!
Thank you and not the first time. I've owned this truck for 20 years, bought it when I was 16. It's had 4 different V8's, 2 sbc's and two turbo diesels since I pulled the 2.5 that it came with. 4 different trannys, all auto's since removing the 4 speed manual. 4 different rear-ends and 2 different fronts and 3 different suspension setups. This is what years of modifying and use looks like, lol. But now it will be fast, powerfull, smooth, efficient, tow good and crawl good.
Thank you, one day it will be all one color again, but who knows when....
Technically it's an '85 model (most of the frame and front clip is all that's left), but it has an '88 cab, '91 bed, '79 front axle, '83 rear axle, 1 '94 transfer case and 1 '95 transfer case (doubler setup), '01 S10 dash and column, '02 Dakota seat, '94 steering box, '05 Duramax/Allison and wiring and I built everything else.
Thank you and I don't think I'll have any regrets on the Duramax swap. The 6.5 was perfectly adequate, but adequate isn't nearly as much fun as excessive, lol.
That's exactly what I'm thinking. I'm getting EFI Live and I know a guy that has been using that program for 11 years and he says that he can squeeze 800-900 hp out of it I want him too. I'm thinking that 500-600 hp will be plenty though since it will weigh about 2000-2500 lbs less than what the Duramax is supposed to be moving.
thats awesome
rayhuber23 6 days ago
what engine do you have in this truck? what radiator did you use? stock or aftermarket if aftermarket what size and did you have to make any frame mods?
wastelandprovince 2 weeks ago
@wastelandprovince
It had a 6.5 Detroit in this video, but it has a 2005 Duramax in it now. It has an aftermarket 31x19 dual core aluminum radiator and the entire frame has been extensively modified to accept the engine, radiator and suspension and to be able to handle the extra power.
DieselS10 2 weeks ago
and I thought throwing a linked dana 60 under a silverado was a big project.....sweet ride....and the engineering is impressive. fantastic job. Will it be a show or go truck? I vote for GO......
trump4me 1 month ago
@trump4me
Thanks man, it will be both actually. I'm building it to do everything well. It has 4.11 gears and 38's so it will effortlessly run 75 on the turnpike and the Duramax/Allison combo will be very efficient and VERY powerful. It has a reciever hitch out back and a gooseneck hitch in the bed for trailers. I have stacked 241 cases that help provide 94:1 gearing for rock crawling on the weekends. The air-ride helps it ride like a Caddy and support any load. It's my for everything truck.
DieselS10 1 month ago
Nice, you oughta get a coat of paint on that thing.
HostageKiller 1 month ago
@HostageKiller
Ha, I couldn't agree more.
Saving the paint for last though, gotta get all of the fabrication done first, but I will be starting on the body work soon. Thinking Synergy Green with Black flares and bumpers????
DieselS10 1 month ago
@DieselS10
Flashy for my taste but I think it would go really well with the wheels you've got on there and the whole style of the thing overall, yeah.
HostageKiller 1 month ago
@HostageKiller
That's exactly my thoughts on the color too. The truck was always white with black flares and I always intended to paint it back like that, but it has been modified so extensively and is "loud" just in what it has become so I was thinking that a loud color like Synergy Green would kinda fit it.
DieselS10 1 month ago
Also, is it better to have a diesel or gas engine for off-roading? Big or small diesel engine? I have friends who own 4x4s w/ small & big block gas engines. I guess its an Okie thing. I've seen Suzuki Samurais & Sidekicks w/ small diesel engines w/ really low gears. They can't really drive that fast. Don't know why?
RokBlu 1 month ago
@RokBlu
It's really up to the owner IMO. Gassers in general are lighter, rev faster and far easier to install. Most use the smaller diesel that don't make much power and suffer at high speeds like you mentioned. I have a buddy with a 4bt in an S10 that will run 80mph effortlessly and accelerates as fast as it did with the 4.3. The diesel engines are nearly always more fuel efficient, but are (usually) noisy, stink and the fuel costs more. I choose a diesel because I tow stuff with this
DieselS10 1 month ago
@DieselS10
truck, run it down the highway on long trips (sometimes loaded) and I just prefer a diesel. It had a 6.5 Detroit in it in this video, I'm just finishing up swapping in an '05 LLY Duramax/Allison combo and with this diesel (with EFI-Live) it will be capable of 22-25mpg hwy AND mid to low 11 second quarter mile runs with the turn of a knob, plus I can "detune" it so that it doesn't break itself when both transfer cases are in low range with 94:1 gearing when I'm playing in the rocks.
DieselS10 1 month ago
Cool truck, brother. I'd seen another diesel S10 dually on here. The guy says it was made by Chevrolet that way. Just type: 1985 s10 dually limited edition. There's no way it was made that way, right? I'm from Oklahoma & I've never seen one. Have ya'll?
RokBlu 1 month ago
@RokBlu
Thanks man, and I'm an Okie myself, NE Oklahoma.
I'll check out the video you mentioned and yes and no are my thoughts about it right now. Yes they offered a diesel engine in '84 and '85, but I have never seen a dually version, especially of that era. In the early 90's they did offer a version with a dually "looking" rear fender and used a startard offset 10" wide rear wheel that filled it, but never when the diesel's were offered.
DieselS10 1 month ago
Hey man what kind of fender flares are thoose? I like them...
BMXfreak478811 2 months ago
@BMXfreak478811
Bushwacker Cut-Outs
DieselS10 1 month ago
Sweeeet
rocketman6984 2 months ago
Hey the air bag set up is genius. It gets allot of travel. How smooth does it ride? Im about to do a solid axle swap on my 2wd 6.5 suburban. I want to go air because coilovers are just to damn expensive. Plus the adjustability of the air is very nice...and its just cool.
zeeke169408 3 months ago
@zeeke169408
Thanks man, I'll PM you.
DieselS10 3 months ago
Thats really Awsome. I have an 86 2wd s15 I really want to put a Diesel in it but I hear the 2.2 Isuzu is waste of time. I just wonder how I could bolt something in without killing my Grandchilds college funds.
buttmanroad 3 months ago
@buttmanroad
Thanks man.
Nothing will just bolt in but the one you mentioned. As far as spending a ton on it goes, it just depends on how patient you are. Total spent on the Duramax swap (not counting what I got out of parting and selling the 6.5 Detroit) is $2,400, after selling the stuff I pulled from it I'm out $445 so far. Just consistently watch CL and Ebay for deals and be ready to act when you see one.
DieselS10 3 months ago
@DieselS10 Man thak you so much for the reply. That Truck you got is awsome. My Problem is I also have an old CJ5 Jeep and that is Killing me. I would have probably had the the Money to get close to what you have done. Just the rear axle rebuild is over 1200 bucks. And my S15 runs and is way more street happy. Bad too the Bone truck you Got though.Peace
buttmanroad 3 months ago
@buttmanroad 4bt Cummins would fit but not sure how hard it would be to mount it tho.
danraich 3 months ago
very cool, not somthing you see everyday
dairyman309 5 months ago
That was a really intelligent comment, thanks for enlightening us....
DieselS10 5 months ago
JUMP IT! oh yeah the dirtymax would break fkin jap crap
ismokewead420 5 months ago
Nice work.
DESERTHAWKIN 6 months ago
I've owned a couple V8 S10's, really cool to see something original with some imagination put into it. Good job can't wait to see it painted!!!
jasonbusa6 7 months ago
@jasonbusa6
Thank-you, it's been a ton of fun building it.
DieselS10 7 months ago
I dig it. I bet you had to cut the hell out of it to get that 6.5 shoe horned in there.
zeeke169408 7 months ago
@zeeke169408
Not as much as you would think, I moved the column over, removed the HVAC for a Vintage Air unit, modified the passenger wheel well for the turbo, added the hydro-boost and the cut the hell out of the core support, lol. The core support required a lot of attention to fit a large enough radiator, condensor and inter-cooler, but I got it all behind the grill and the firewall wasn't touched.
Now the Duramax/Allison required extensive frame mods!
DieselS10 7 months ago
I like it
zeeke169408 7 months ago
I'm not much for S10's but you made me change my mind. Air ride and a diesel good job!
MrEspeseth 7 months ago
@MrEspeseth
Thanks!
DieselS10 7 months ago
Thats one badass truck, what diesel you got in it, sounds like a duramax
snorkelinatv08 7 months ago
@snorkelinatv08
It had a 6.5 Detroit in this video, but the Duramax/Allison swap is nearing completion. :)
DieselS10 7 months ago
if this truck makes the owner smile, then thats the reason, sick truck by the way
partyboy9811638 7 months ago
what make are those wheels and what size are they? and how big are them tires man?
spriggle42 8 months ago
@spriggle42
They are 17x9 Helo Maxx 8's with 38" tires.
DieselS10 8 months ago
awesome!
67dueceman 8 months ago
love good job bud!
samnyy 8 months ago
you know you should to put up some videos of you playing in the mud with it or out pulling another truck
swordsman2070 8 months ago
@swordsman2070
I will, I just have to get it pulling itself again first, lol.
DieselS10 8 months ago
Whats the point of putting air bags in that truck the point is to drop it not make it higher
moreno90706 8 months ago
@moreno90706
Lol, ever hear of ride quality? How about load capacity? What about load leveling capabilities? Maybe,,, articulation? Why build a one dimensional truck when it can ride like a Cadillac and support and level a loaded gooseneck trailer while riding like a Caddy AND have the ability to school most "hard-core" Jeeps off-road?
What's the point of being so close minded that you think air-ride is only for lowering trucks. Ever heard of a semi? What do you think supports most of them?
DieselS10 8 months ago 2
hows your duramax swap comin along?
jmanwild 8 months ago
@jmanwild
At a snails pace, lol. After two years of searching I finally found a dash harness from an '05 Duramax that I am going to get Wednesday. It will make the wiring a slam dunk and then I will just lack the fuel and tranny lines.
DieselS10 8 months ago
are those 35's?
951prerunner 8 months ago
@951prerunner
Nope, 38x15.50/17's
DieselS10 8 months ago
just needs paint lol
soccerstar654 9 months ago
@soccerstar654
Lol, no arguement here!
I'm thinking that green on the new Camaro's wiith black flares, bumpers and sliders???
DieselS10 9 months ago
@DieselS10 Synergy Green Metallic....yes, yes, and yesss...I love that color. Loved it so much, I painted my sportbike that color. I think the GM paint code was GHS? i think?
Pyro17059 8 months ago
@Pyro17059
Yep, my buddy just painted his ZX11 that color too.
DieselS10 8 months ago
@DieselS10 Go Dukes of Hazzard orange!
juicyj56 8 months ago
@juicyj56
Haha, I love that car and color, but I can't do that to my truck.
DieselS10 8 months ago
where did you get your fender flares?
rrrrhump 9 months ago
@rrrrhump
Ebay, they are getting a little hard to find, but they are Bushwacker Cutouts.
DieselS10 9 months ago
sell me that truck.... how much?
s10rapage 9 months ago
@s10rapage
Lol, I've got to much in it to sell!
Besides it doesn't even run right now, gotta finish the new motor swap...
DieselS10 9 months ago
sell me that truck.... how much?
s10rapage 9 months ago
wicked man i always hated air ride cuz idiots used it to lower their truck and drag it on the fuckin ground but i love this man good thinkin
Ryanpwnsjoo 10 months ago
@Ryanpwnsjoo
Thanks guys, I used air solely because it will support a crazy amount of weight when needed, flexes like crazy and still rides like a Towncar.
DieselS10 10 months ago
sick, props
TrucksNBikes 10 months ago
what motor? 7.3l idi?
therabidanimalman 10 months ago
@therabidanimalman
scroll down two posts.
DieselS10 10 months ago
4bt?
MullinPerformance 10 months ago
@MullinPerformance
No, it had a 6.5 Detroit/4L80e in this video, but I pulled it last year and am trying to finish swapping in a LLY Duramax/Allison. Got it all in there and mounted, just lack some wiring, fuel and tranny lines.
DieselS10 10 months ago
@DieselS10 How did that 4l80e hold up? Thinking of doing a 4bt and 4l80e swap myself..maybe even a 4l60e
MullinPerformance 10 months ago
@MullinPerformance
The 4l80e worked perfectly behind the Detroit. I don't think you could ever hurt one behind a 4bt as long as you don't go crazy with the torque #'s on it. If you are leaving it near stock to maybe 400 ft/lb or less you would probably be fine with the 4l60 as well. If you are leaving the power moderate you should consider the 700r4 as it doesn't require a stand-alone computer/harness to shift like the other two. Any 700 with the huge K on the bellhousing is a good candidate
DieselS10 10 months ago
@DieselS10 Well my thoughts were the larger turbo,spring and turning up the pump. I'm a noob when it comes to dieselstho. I been lurking on the 4bt forums but i'm still iffy on buying one for what i'm going to use it for. It's going to be used in a hot rod project. I'm just kinda stuck on the ideal of a 4bt in a car for some "wow" factor.
MullinPerformance 10 months ago
@MullinPerformance
I really like the 4bt also. The only negative thing that I can say about them is that they vibrate horribly at idle. Would definitely be cool in a car too. You may be better off with a 4l80 for a hotrod project, just gonna cost a little more. The only cheaper way that I know of to run the 4l80 is to get the computer and harness from a '92 or '93 Chevy diesel automatic. Those 2 years ran a mechanical 6.5 with a stand-alone CPU/harness for the 4l80e.
DieselS10 10 months ago
@DieselS10 Painless now makes a stand alone module you can use for a 60 or 80, you can tune shift points and line pressure with it.
MullinPerformance 10 months ago
awesome job mate,nice setup - can you work left/right individually ?
vitamingrin1 10 months ago
@vitamingrin1
Thank you, it does left and right, just not much unless I disconnect the sway bar.
DieselS10 10 months ago
what the hells with the air ride? you ashamed to have a fulltime lifted trcuk??
truckman1693 10 months ago
@truckman1693
A little thing called function. With springs soft enough to flex and ride good you can't haul a load. If they are stiff enough to haul a load they ride like crap and don't flex. With the medium duty bags it rides like a towncar, handles a load like a 1 ton and flexes like rock buggy. It's a truck and gets used like one.
DieselS10 10 months ago
Thanks guys!
I got the flares on Ebay, they are getting a little tougher to find these days. Oh and they are Bushwacker Cut-Outs.
DieselS10 10 months ago
where did you get the fender flares? nice truck.
codytatum25 10 months ago
Nice truck
ndchevy 11 months ago
interesting suspension. if it were somewhat lighter could it baja?
brent440 11 months ago
@brent440
Hmmm, that's actually one of the few things that I didn't specifically build it to do well, but like you said, if were lighter I and had better shocks I think it could do well at baja. As it is I think the unsprung weight would get to it.
DieselS10 11 months ago
thats prime!
dico381 11 months ago
@DieselS10 Sounds like an old 6.5 with that lopeiness
Mitch14077 11 months ago
@Mitch14077
It was in this video, good ear!
swapped it out for an LLY/Allison though.
DieselS10 11 months ago
@DieselS10 I bet it has soo much more power. My cousin has a 6.5 those small turbos make it almost as bad as the old IDIs. Really nice build BTW.
Mitch14077 11 months ago
@Mitch14077
Thank you. I haven't quite got it finished with the Duramax swap, still lack the fuel lines, tranny lines and more wiring..., I'll be posting a new video when it's finished though.
DieselS10 11 months ago
@DieselS10 easy swap? (electronically i mean) the mechanical portion would be similair to the 6.5 swap, which as i can see you have no problems with! some people like that 6.5/vp445.9 cummins/7.3 ford clack, but to me, noisy diesels are no fun, it attracts unwanted attention (police) and my nieghbors hate my cummins. (lol)
jmanwild 11 months ago
@jmanwild
The wiring has been a pain, but it is probably because I am meshing the interior/dash harness from the '01 S10 dash that I put in it with the Duramax under hood fuse center, then using the Duramax cluster and BCM with the wrong harness. I will probably swap to an '05 D-max interior harness as soon as I locate one.
I enjoyed the 6.5 even with all of it's noise, but I'll never miss it when this one is finished, lol.
The mech portion for the D-max was a little more trouble.....
DieselS10 11 months ago
@DieselS10 well i know you can buy stand alone controllers for both the duramax, and the allison, but they come at a serious price. personally i think the fab work of makin a 03-07 dash work in the little s10 would be more work then reworking the guages on the little s10. theres what, 25 inputs on the 01 s10 dash?
lots of which wouldn't need to be attached, like airbags, and seatbelt lights.
seriously, the electrical work is simple, its finding the resources thats tough.
jmanwild 11 months ago
@jmanwild
The electrical part is the part that I struggle with, lol. I just modified the '01 S10 dash to fit the '85, then I was able to mount the '05 D-max cluster in it soo that it looks factory in there, it was kinda fun. I haven't even counted the inputs. All that I want to work in the S10 dash is the gauges (d-max), odometer, PRNDL, head-light/dome switch, and everything in the '01 S10 column I'm using. From listening to you I'm wishing you lived close!
DieselS10 11 months ago
@DieselS10 haha that would be fun, since i dont have the money to do a swap like this myself! (silly snap on guy keeps conning me into buying tools dammit)
i'd do a lil more research, get a hold of some wiring diagrams and utilize forums. gm should be able to give you wiring diagrams!
im hoping to do a fummins someday, or a duramax in ford swap (not that common!)
jmanwild 11 months ago
@jmanwild
I've actually got the diagrams for both trucks, just have to keep plugging away at it...
Keep me posted if you ever get to start on your F*%d, lol.
DieselS10 11 months ago
@DieselS10 haha its a ways away. maybe once my cummins gives up...
jmanwild 10 months ago
@DieselS10 haha its a ways away. maybe once my cummins gives up... but for certainly keep ya posted!
jmanwild 10 months ago
Yeah, at nearly 6000lbs empty it's heavy enough to handle a gooseneck fine. I just get some REALLY funny looks, lol.
DieselS10 11 months ago
Thats pretty sweet!! Great system you really haul a gooseneck with that thing!! thats great!
cr8zyfool85 11 months ago
for sale? ILL TAKE IT!!! haha
FabioMcHenry 11 months ago
@FabioMcHenry
Could be....just a lot of money!
DieselS10 11 months ago
Thank you and yes people tend to stare at it, especially when I've got a gooseneck trailer hooked to it, lol. It is very flexy, to much so when the sway bar is disconnected. I will be adding sway bars to the lower links that will stay connected when crawling to help out with off camber stability.
DieselS10 11 months ago
Pure genious, I love how your bags are set up. Must turn some heads lol. How does it flex?
03canadianf5 11 months ago
Build custom 4 link suspension front and rear with adjustable air springs/shocks.
Building all of it myself I have around $3,500 to $4,000 not counting the axles themselves. That's for end links, link material, long travel shocks, air springs, air ride controls, air lines, brakes lines, compressor, etc.
DieselS10 1 year ago
I was wondering how to just do the suspension to raise it up and down and how much that cost?
DMenacer 1 year ago
your on the s10 forum aren't you with the duramax swap?
rocker4u123 1 year ago
@rocker4u123
Yep, that's me.
DieselS10 1 year ago
@DieselS10 sweet ass ride lol. seriously thats the coolest s10 i've ever seen lol
rocker4u123 1 year ago
@rocker4u123
Thanks a bunch!
DieselS10 1 year ago
ok i have a question how much did it cost all together i have a 91 4x4
dale00921 1 year ago
@dale00921
It has been built it so many stages that it's a tough call, but in it's state in this video, with years of good deals on parts I spent around $11,000 on it and I did all of it myself. Keep in mind that was with a new engine, tranny, twin cases, 1 ton axles,digital air ride, air bags, shocks, driveshafts, wiring, the extended cab, the bed, a frame stretch, dash, cluster, diesel fuel system, rear disc conversion, etc....
DieselS10 1 year ago
It was a '94 electronic version.
DieselS10 1 year ago
@6detroitdiesel5
Good ear, that's exactly what was in it in this video.
DieselS10 1 year ago
did you have to remove the wheel wells?
swordsman2070 1 year ago
@swordsman2070
No, but I had to modify the passenger wheel well to clear the turbo for the Detroit that was in it in this video and I swapped that wheel well out for a stock one for the Duramax and it only had to be trimmed to clear the fuel filter.
DieselS10 1 year ago
I'd kill to have a garage like that next to my house man.
pznerd 1 year ago
bad ass
curtisbodkins 1 year ago
You got more video's of this? VERY interested in doin this to my ranger. Thnx
partinus99 1 year ago
@partinus99
Search my channel, there is a short one of just the rear suspension.
If you want to see more of the suspension and what now go the "It's Alive" thread in the Liftin It 4wd sfa section at S10Forum.com. there are tons of pics and some particulars there.
DieselS10 1 year ago
@DieselS10 thnx a mill goin to check it out right now. Sick rig btw
partinus99 1 year ago
now im notmuch of a chevy guy but this is pretty awesome. are you going to paint it? or did u already?
SirTomothy 1 year ago
@SirTomothy
Thankyou and if it makes you feel any better it has some Ford and Dodge in it too, lol.
I haven't painted it yet either, still working on mechanical stuff with the Dmax swap, so paint will come last.
DieselS10 1 year ago
@DieselS10 how much did this swap cost? did you buy the engine or get it out of an old truck?
SirTomothy 1 year ago
@SirTomothy
A lot! Everything including the diesel swap, the 4L80, twin 241 transfers, HP D60, 14 bolt, digital air-ride system, bags, shocks, adding the extended cab, the new bed, new dash, hydro-boost, link ends for the 4 links, etc set me back around $11K.
I got the engine and everything related from a donor truck.
DieselS10 1 year ago
@DieselS10
Oh and the tires and wheels.
DieselS10 1 year ago
AWESOME!!!! can't wait to see more videos
mikiebabie 1 year ago
i love it but id hate to see the money you have wrapped up in it. Awesome looking S10 man. Good luck with the Dmax hope everything comes together good for you.
fritzwv2011 1 year ago
@fritzwv2011
Thanks, I have a lot in it, but probably not near as much as you would think since I do all of the work on it myself. I just really enjoy it so it's worth it to me. Now my wife, that's a whole different story, lol.
DieselS10 1 year ago
@DieselS10
Yea i hear ya on that one I have 2 S10s and I spend a good bit of time working on them. I really like that Air-ride system, that's a smart way to build it to get that much travel out of it. The only question I have is, is that beast even road legal?
fritzwv2011 1 year ago
@fritzwv2011
"Technically" yes and no I guess. At the height that I drive it around, which is just enough to turn without hitting the fenders, it is about 4 inches below the legal limit here. But, there isn't supposed to be any tires past the flares andthe outside edge of my Bushwackers are are centered on the 15 1/2" wide tires, so...
Good thing about here is that if you drive right the cops don't care. I drove it like that everyday for 2 years before I started this swap.
DieselS10 1 year ago
this is the baddest
porcelainbluedub 1 year ago
@porcelainbluedub
Thanks you, it's a lot of fun.
DieselS10 1 year ago
I'd take the body off and make a buggy out of it . Love the suspension , but looks like the drive line angle is steep when fully raised. Nice work but must've taken alot of hours.
rcruz003 1 year ago
@rcruz003
Thanks, I do have a lot of time in it, working on it again now actually, I'm nearly finished with the Dmax/Ally swap.
It would make a good buggy with the 1 tons and twin cases, but I can't justify a trailer queen. I built it to ride good, tow good, handle loads well, be fast, efficient and crawl. The front driveline gets a little steep at full pressure, but it will never be driven there. It only gets that tall so that it has plenty of down travel when articulating.
DieselS10 1 year ago
@DieselS10 . ...I get the trailer queen reference , build them as such and they wont get much use.
On another note, I had a 96 GMC 2500 w/ a 6.5 diesel and in the video your motor sure sounds a 6.5 to me ? Post some videos of the DMAX Motor / Tranny swap.
Good Luck
rcruz003 1 year ago
@rcruz003
That's exactly what's in it in this video, good ear! I have been thinking about filming it in it's current sttate just to show how things are coming together so far, I'll get one done and post it up.
DieselS10 1 year ago
haha that is the dumbest, coolest thing ever! It's the ballsiest S10 I've seen haha
hoppy123456798 1 year ago
@hoppy123456798
I didn't build it to go up and down, it's just part of the game with air-ride. It's just all about function, a good ride, good load carrying capacity, load leveling, ease of loading a quad in the bed and tons of articulation for crawling. It's built to be used.
DieselS10 1 year ago
id be ashamed 2 call that piece of shit mine
fordalltheway1 1 year ago
@fordalltheway1
Yeah and that's exactly the kind of comment that I would expect from someone with a user name like yours. If your so "Ford" oriented check out some Ford videos instead of making jackass comments about vehicles that you don't have the first clue how to build. Retard.
DieselS10 1 year ago
Beast!
serrgiomorrales 1 year ago
what year is it??????????
serote11 1 year ago
@serote11
Technically it's an '85, but it's got parts ranging from '79 to '05.
DieselS10 1 year ago
man are you the same guy that is on s10 forum dot com with the same truck or is this just a similiar one
justintcurran 1 year ago
@justintcurran
Same one.
DieselS10 1 year ago
is theres a duramax in that truck?
atvman34 1 year ago
@atvman34
Not in this video, but there is now.
DieselS10 1 year ago
@atvman34 haha nice
atvman34 1 year ago
Thats a bad ass s10 .. that must have taken a good bit of time and engineering to perfect the desired result. I have not watched any of your other videos yet, however If you havent already I would like to see that truck painted and set up with a winch and fog light bar. thats the serious off road s10. good job man. <3
stwebs 1 year ago
@stwebs
Thank you, it has been a blast building. This is just the result of my wanting 1 vehicle that is fast, powerful, and smooth riding that can tow and support a good load and be efficient doing it, PLUS be able to school a descent amount of trailer queens in the rocks while being driven daily, lol.
It hasn't changed yet in appearance, but it will in time. I have been trying to get the Duramax/Allison swap completed, then it's time to make it pretty!
DieselS10 1 year ago
how much did it cost to do that???
that is just crazy
CRAZYWEIGHT90 1 year ago
@CRAZYWEIGHT90
On that particular build, which involved the 1 tons, all of the air suspension, bags, shocks, digital air control, link material, rod ends, the 6.5 detroit, the 4l80, the transfer case doubler setup, the frame mods to get the extended cab on the with the long bed, the cab, new bed and everything to make it all work set me back about $11,000 and that's with me doing all of it.
I'm out another $1000 after selling the Detroit/4L80 out of it for the Duramax/Allison swap.
DieselS10 1 year ago
not what i expected
86chanko 1 year ago
he probably allready wasted 2 bucks in gas :0
DeathJ0Y 1 year ago
@DeathJ0Y Diesels don't run on gas and they alot more btu so i bet he didn't burn much at all....
Balowin 1 year ago
@Balowin
Haha, nice call. My Dad filled his Dodge diesel up with 87 octane once and you are very correct!
DieselS10 1 year ago
did you chop the frame to put the long bed on it?i was thinking of a similar setup for my truck but putting a v8 in it.it looks like you might of chopped it right above were the rear passenger side leaf spring used to be
swordsman2070 1 year ago
@swordsman2070
It was always a longbed, I cut it in the center at about the back of the doors and added 14.5 inches there for the extended cab.
DieselS10 1 year ago
@DieselS10 did you use another s10 frame for the extra metal?
swordsman2070 1 year ago
@swordsman2070
No sir, all of the S10 junkers that I had access to were 2wd and the frames aren't nearly as tall as the 4wd frames, so I just bent a section for each side that perfectly matched the dimensions and corners. Then I fish plated it on the inside, then I took '77 K5 center frame section and laid them inside the S10 frame basically boxing it with double uppers and lowers and welded it all in. Then I boxed the rear section and added crossmembers wherever I could. It's RIGID!
DieselS10 1 year ago
@DieselS10 well its on hell of an s10 you did good work on it.and it sounds like you did it right the first time
swordsman2070 1 year ago
@swordsman2070
Thank you and not the first time. I've owned this truck for 20 years, bought it when I was 16. It's had 4 different V8's, 2 sbc's and two turbo diesels since I pulled the 2.5 that it came with. 4 different trannys, all auto's since removing the 4 speed manual. 4 different rear-ends and 2 different fronts and 3 different suspension setups. This is what years of modifying and use looks like, lol. But now it will be fast, powerfull, smooth, efficient, tow good and crawl good.
DieselS10 1 year ago
just judging by the length of the truck, it looks more like a full size than an S10, though my S15 jimmy's the same colour as the cab section
bodyart3344 1 year ago
@bodyart3344
It really does, with the long-bed behind the extended cab it's got a 132.5" wheelbase which is similar in length to full-size single cab long-beds.
DieselS10 1 year ago
@DieselS10
and with the diesel sound and tire size it throws people off as to it being an S10/15
bodyart3344 1 year ago
@DieselS10 dude ive alway loved the clean paint nice rims setup ..
but daaaamn this looks badass dude
graffwriter17 1 year ago
@DieselS10 could you tell me what year this s10 is from?
graffwriter17 1 year ago
@graffwriter17
Thank you, one day it will be all one color again, but who knows when....
Technically it's an '85 model (most of the frame and front clip is all that's left), but it has an '88 cab, '91 bed, '79 front axle, '83 rear axle, 1 '94 transfer case and 1 '95 transfer case (doubler setup), '01 S10 dash and column, '02 Dakota seat, '94 steering box, '05 Duramax/Allison and wiring and I built everything else.
DieselS10 1 year ago
@DieselS10 sounds like you put in a lot of backbreakn work into this lil beast haha
dang i was thinkn it was one truck i wanted one that looked like it and i was goin to tint n drop it on 20s hahaaha
graffwriter17 1 year ago
Hey, excellent fab skills! i really like that rear air setup. I'm so very glad you changed to a duramax from the 6.5
wheelin888 1 year ago
@wheelin888
Thank you and I don't think I'll have any regrets on the Duramax swap. The 6.5 was perfectly adequate, but adequate isn't nearly as much fun as excessive, lol.
DieselS10 1 year ago
@DieselS10 Well i'd say the Durramax is necessary. Especially if you plan to add a couple of hundred extra horsepower anyway :P
wheelin888 1 year ago
@wheelin888
That's exactly what I'm thinking. I'm getting EFI Live and I know a guy that has been using that program for 11 years and he says that he can squeeze 800-900 hp out of it I want him too. I'm thinking that 500-600 hp will be plenty though since it will weigh about 2000-2500 lbs less than what the Duramax is supposed to be moving.
DieselS10 1 year ago