It makes sense that he completely fails to make any sense in 'explaining" his music....because you can't explain it....if you could in words he wouldn't need music...we need to just listen and get what we can...
Some great advice here from cecil, he knows what he is saying, he is one of the few we have left from back then. He is talking about what alot of people are afraid too, music has colors and there is more to this planet and the interconnectiveness than we can understand.
Does anyone else ever see colors when they play? What goes out something opposes it, action opposite reaction, interesting stuff here.
I was lucky to meet and hang with Cecil Taylor after a concert and lecture series in Baltimore quite a few years ago. He is one of my musical heroes. He was echanting, charming, and talked openly about his life and history.. a who's who of Jazz. He chain smoked Marlboro lights and let me pour him a glass of wine when I asked him about something he was quoted to have said about Miles Davis. He said" I didn't say that.. Miles did". After he shook my hand, I didn't wash it for a week.
The Emperor's New Clothes, in my opinion. Taylor seems mentally disturbed or drunk or something. Is that the hip part? Musically, I have tried to listen to it and "get it" on a few occasions, but it's a sound that is off-putting, to my ear. It is randomness with a good story attached to "explain" what it's supposed to be. He IS a character, for sure - a personality, I guess. The Emperor has no clothes. There, I said it.
@OLugs Your ear is not just your ear, it's your whole life. Music is tricky. Aged 5, I got the Beatles; at 10, it was Deep Purple; at 14, King Crimson; at 15, Charlie Parker and Bud Powell; at 16, James Brown; at 21, Schoenberg; at 25, Webern; at 30, Coltrane; at 33, Derek Bailey. I didn't begin to hear what Cecil Taylor was doing until 37 or so. It's off-putting now, but it might not be later on. But nobody is insisting that you have to listen to it.
@lexo30 I'm fifty years old. I've listened to everything my entire life....nature, speaking, music, etc. My opinion is that Cecil Taylor's playing has none of the elements of music that pleases my ear. You can suggest that it's my inadequacy to understand Taylor's complexity that's creating displeasure to my ear, but I don't think so. I think my ear is fine. I think sometimes people look for strange gurus to follow. Here is one.
@OLugs I'm eleven years younger than you. I don't know about 'guru'; I know Taylor is an intellectual musician (i.e. he's also a writer and thinker) but I haven't read anything he's written. All I'm saying is that there's nothing wrong with my ear either, and I like the sound of his music. It's demanding and complex, but he's not a charlatan. He's the real thing. If you follow the course of his recordings, you can hear the direction he moves in and it makes musical sense.
@lexo30 Well, then, it's all just subjective. You like it and I don't. Your ears interpret him differently than mine. I think he is most definitely a charlatan. I won't follow the course of his recordings because that would be buying into what I believe to be a deception.
@OLugs It's your choice, but all I would say is that just because you don't like something, doesn't mean it's bad. It could be that he's doing so many things at once that your ear can't make sense of it. To me, a typical charlatan in music is someone who does something very banal and stupid but comes on like it's incredibly profound and meaningful (e.g. Lou Reed). If you listen to Taylor's earliest stuff (like Jazz Advance), you can hear that he started out as a very advanced jazz player.
@lexo30 My opinion of his music and persona is not intended to change your (or anyone else's) opinion. But I find this facet of art to be like an unappealing sideshow. It insinuates that the 'music' sounds the way it does due to its complexity. I disagree. I think it sounds that way because he's drunk. His mismatched stockings, etc.....It makes me smirk, but not much more. I'm not a Lou reed fan, either lol! Ornette is more my speed.
@OLugs As far as I know, Cecil Taylor is not a big drinker. He is, however, 81 years old and I don't especially care whether his stockings match or not. (My socks tend not to match, either.) This is also not a good video to watch in order to see what he can do. Most of it seems to be him playing exercises or working out sequences - if he can be said to play sequences. I'm glad you like Ornette, anyway.
@lexo30 I have been told he likes to drink quite a bit. He sure sounds drunk, in my opinion. The comment about the stockings was to make the point that, I think he presents himself as a "jester" type of character. And like a jester, he seems to be beyond ridicule. But, I don't buy it. I don't believe in it. I think it's a hoax.
@OLugs If this is the only Cecil Taylor you're going on, then you could be forgiven for not getting why he is a great musician. This video does not present his music at all well. If you have actually listened to a good deal of his stuff - there's quite a lot down the side of the screen there - and you still think that he is for some reason hoaxing everyone, and that a lot of intelligent listeners have been taken in - then you are just plain wrong. I'd post a link but youtube won't let me.
@lexo30 But, see, I don't need to be forgiven for anything. He is a "great musician" to you, not to me. I don't need to study the guy's entire history and try to uncover any missing links if whatever it might have sounded like led him to this point. And, if I fall outside of all the "intelligent listener" range because of my opinion, then please accept the fact that what you may consider as being my ignorance of Taylor's "music" is actually my bliss. :)
@coolwafferman That's Cecil Taylor. He's probably the most brilliant and innovative improvising musician alive today. You owe him respect, and if he says somebody is good then it's his opinion that's worth listening to.
@lexo30 I can't agree with you there. If there are parts of "mainstream jazz" that are boring, it is due to artists who don't evolve or only parrot the ideas of others. And you get plenty of those on either side of the avant-garde.
And most of the really innovative "mainstream" jazzers were completely crazy too (Mingus, Monk, Miles, Powell, Rollins, ...)
@Superphilipp The innovators in jazz, people like the ones you mention, are people who moved the music along. What I have a problem with in jazz is the idea, very common in jazz education, that there's a more or less fixed body of work that you become the master of, and methods that you can use to play jazz the way it should be played - that's teaching jazz the way people are taught to play classical music, and it kils jazz. Mingus, Monk, Miles, Powell and Rollins invented new ways of playing.
@Superphilipp Also, Mingus may have had a vicious temper, Monk was definitely eccentric and Powell was arguably mentally ill, but Miles wasn't and Rollins isn't 'completely crazy'. Sure, Rollins served time for theft but that's because he was a junkie at one point. Miles was just a prick, or liked it to be thought that he was. (Don't get me wrong, I think that Miles is the second-greatest bandleader in jazz after Ellington.)
Love the shot@4'33 --How he's talking about 'Derek being so individual' towards the orange and black banded furry tutu thangy on the barrel while wearing the one orange, one black sock. CT is as Free, Funky and Stylish as he wants to be.
@todonne. when i was about 16 i asked myself same question-- 52 now. spent two months that summer listening to nothing but CT's AIR ABOVE MOUNTAINS-- eventually had a couple epiphanies: Cecil's music is dense but full of melody. He's improvising symphonies on one instrument every time he plays. so imagine strings,brass,reeds, percussion etc. his stamina,integrity, intellect, idiosyncrasy,self-determination move me too. A truly free Black man liberates all.
All of you dissing Cecil,wtf do you know bout him?You think he's crazy because he choses to put his mind in a dream sequence all the time. This is why his music is so far out. What did you expect? a man with atie talking about bank investments. God,grow up,the man is a genuine artist and a legend. And his style is evolving, But like any musician he has his distinguive tones and sticks to them. Leave Cecil alone,fools.
can someone explain why people love his music so much? The music seems hard to play but it just seems like a barrage of notes. I can't appreciate it, I don't get it. I love music and I like Jazz and I want to understand this. Can someone explain why this music is appealing?
@todonne3 it's liberating, free of the traditional conventions of experience. jazz is about a person telling a story, their story. and his story is not for everyone. it's a story about removing paradigms constructed by experience, and describing experience independent of concepts that arise as a result of what's experienced.
I felt kind of relieved to see this clip, because Taylor's music is just so advanced, and almost inhumanly genius, but here, although rather eccentric, he is as human and approachable as my music teacher. So in a way, this kind of clip that shows his domestic side is a nice accompaniment to the surreal and otherworldly world of his music. Made me laugh that he was singing and dancing to the sweet sentimental songs that he would never, ever, play on his piano!
@hellofromchieko actually Cecil's first albums feature him playing sentimental songs ie 'standards' --check out JAZZ ADVANCE, LOOKING AHEAD, A.I.R. and NYC R&B. he abandoned that repertoire by '63 but was no stranger to ballads and bop changes . whrere he was always headed though was towards becoming an improviser whose imagination demanded the freedom of symphonies and jazz drumming
I heard Cecil play be-bop II-IV cycling changes while soloing over them at an incredible speed, faster than anyone I've ever heard, back in the late 70's in Boston. Incredible chops
I've been playing music for almost 50 years and Cecil Taylor is the most advanced musician on the planet. I would love to meet him before he makes the great transition that we all must make someday.
It comes with age and wisdom, and a feeling of freedom from everything while you learn to FEEL creativity. And to do that you must be open to the emotions given off by everything, not just people, but every animal, plant and everything on the planet.
Cecil is out there! I would love to meet him and just talk to him. A lot of you out there may think he's crazy or eccentric, but I understand what he's saying.
i think one issue is the associations people have.. in listening to cecil's music there is no direct association to any genre. a kneejerk would be jazz.. but this isnt jazz. inspired by but not it.
its his music.
and this is a great clip because you can see hes not improvising. all of this music is written down. although he's abandoned conventional staff notation. he writes down note names and places them in vertical relationship to each other to establish range.
It's inresting how Cecil quotes folks that played more in the "box "as his inspirations are heroes (yin/yang?). He had to find a way to be recognized as all the greats did because cloning wasn't cool at all then like it apparently is now. He's is no more strange then the masses of clones who'll almost will believe anything you tell or feed them.
Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie, were considered pretty "out" in their time. Not like Cecil was, but still, people who were into swing were put off by bebop.
I do understand it. If you were to write his solos down I'm sure there wouldn't be much difference, one to the next. I always enjoyed his spirit and I love his compositions but his solo piano is so repetitive.
So many of the comments here are the definition of outrecuidance. One thing the obviously highly sophisticated naysayers should ask themselves is why almost all the great musicians hold him in the highest esteem. And why Max Roach, Elvin Jones and Art Blakey (to name a few) were always eager to play with him. Listen again to his music, with a more elevated mind (if possible) and try to contemplate what these other great musical minds were hearing -- that so many seem to be incapable of.
I'll say again....listen to the music. He repeats the same ideas over and over and over again. Listen to the stuff on the blue note record and the early records where he was still attempting to say something and say it with integrity and originality. Amazing. Last 30 years too many people saying how great he is and he listened.
jlevinson6, i dont understand how can you be against Taylor or criticising his latest works. I mean, we know many jazz piano players still touring and doing S.O.S. (Same-Old-Shit) for years and years, same standards, same ideas on the solos (saving some notes) etc etc. What I think is that you are just not able to understand it and thats why you say that, thats normal, I didn't liked some musicians first time I listened them, but I listened again and again and read about to understand their art!
Here we have a great master of Western, African-American music who has been honored with many high awards, and then there's "jlevinson6" who's a completely unqualified critic. Cecil isn't a young man any more, and he's seen (and been part of, and has created) a great deal of modern musical history, Disrespect toward one's elders is a nasty sentiment, "jlevinson6." Get it? Now shut up, or do better than Cecil has... you toad.
Rather than call me names why don't you actually dispute my claim...listen to his music...he starts off the music with the same riff...over and over and over. HE was great in the late 50's and I still like his tunes and his poetry and his persona, but musically he's done nothing but repeat himself over and over. Could have been great had critics really listened and forced him to play.
Cecil is an amazing player and composer. I don't understand where you are coming from with your remark, "Could have been great had critics really listened and forced him to play". Are you kidding? Critics only listen to each other talking. Talking about "forcing him to play", that is just some adolescent nonsense.
How do you justify having an opinion about Taylor's music? Back up, young man.
I have watched over 20 of his vids on here and I have yet to hear him play any real music. Was he good at one time or something? If so, does anyone have anyone footage of that?
Rotation of the Earth with waving hands-well...The guy can friggin' outplay anybody. I guess he can spout artful verbal bombast-he has earned the right.
Sure some of Cecils shit may be out there, taking a lot of patience to listen to, but anyone claiming that he just bangs on keys is absolutely ignorant...just Google Cecil Taylor, and learn more about this amazing musician...listen to what other great jazz musicians have to say about him
Don't let Taylor's eccentric style and mannerisms fool you. He knows EXACTLY what he's talking about. What he said about James Brown was the first time I hear someone really understand why Brown's music was so significant and different. Also what he said about the unseen colors of music...listen up.
no man- the dude is off his face. sure, he's far out, but he's full of shit, man. yeah, yeah- sound has color... but 6? wtf? why not 7? (the rainbow) also, "only some" people can experience these colors? bullshit. he's banging, not only on the keys- but on your head too.
it's a very rare occasion that Cecil would allow this to take place in his APT,Brownstone(Blackstone)inside joke in Fort Greene. FELVER you are so Lucky???
I love Cecil Taylor's playing. I think I've just lucked out so far that the times I've seen him live have not ever involved poetry, philosophy, endless chanting and groaning, dance, gay sex, or karate.
Could someone tell me who's singin that version of "A Sleepin Bee"? Thanks.
pcurrie2 2 weeks ago
i don't think it is a bong on his piano but a vase but LOL funny post. fantastic vid thanx for posting this anthdb45! so beautiful.
tommont 1 month ago
Entire documentary watch?v=5sfiN9tvcbM
xxAoakauaxx 3 months ago
I love seeing him dance
petezilla 5 months ago
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I love 2:46 where he says "anyone can play looking at that tree move out there... it's wonderful. haha!"
It IS wonderful!
petezilla 5 months ago
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petezilla 5 months ago
A far-out jazz musician's perception of Newton's third law of motion...
Cool.
aporia23 1 year ago
love you forever cecil taylor
zarkoasenov 1 year ago
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he is so handsom and single but he is a father naneedj.info
harshanamanju 1 year ago
lol, if you look closely, there is a bong on his piano.
willwelsh816 1 year ago 2
@willwelsh816 its just a vase man
HendrixClaptonSRV 1 year ago
It makes sense that he completely fails to make any sense in 'explaining" his music....because you can't explain it....if you could in words he wouldn't need music...we need to just listen and get what we can...
nicodagger 1 year ago
great musician , but what the f___ is he talking about? ;)
infinitefathom 1 year ago
Some great advice here from cecil, he knows what he is saying, he is one of the few we have left from back then. He is talking about what alot of people are afraid too, music has colors and there is more to this planet and the interconnectiveness than we can understand.
Does anyone else ever see colors when they play? What goes out something opposes it, action opposite reaction, interesting stuff here.
y2zgt 1 year ago
Damn this guy is blazed off his ass
dgpianomusic 1 year ago
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lexo30 1 year ago
I was lucky to meet and hang with Cecil Taylor after a concert and lecture series in Baltimore quite a few years ago. He is one of my musical heroes. He was echanting, charming, and talked openly about his life and history.. a who's who of Jazz. He chain smoked Marlboro lights and let me pour him a glass of wine when I asked him about something he was quoted to have said about Miles Davis. He said" I didn't say that.. Miles did". After he shook my hand, I didn't wash it for a week.
HugeGene 1 year ago
¡ muy bueno !
doronkorecords 1 year ago
Cecil should tune his piano.
eurisko618 1 year ago
The Emperor's New Clothes, in my opinion. Taylor seems mentally disturbed or drunk or something. Is that the hip part? Musically, I have tried to listen to it and "get it" on a few occasions, but it's a sound that is off-putting, to my ear. It is randomness with a good story attached to "explain" what it's supposed to be. He IS a character, for sure - a personality, I guess. The Emperor has no clothes. There, I said it.
OLugs 1 year ago
@OLugs Your ear is not just your ear, it's your whole life. Music is tricky. Aged 5, I got the Beatles; at 10, it was Deep Purple; at 14, King Crimson; at 15, Charlie Parker and Bud Powell; at 16, James Brown; at 21, Schoenberg; at 25, Webern; at 30, Coltrane; at 33, Derek Bailey. I didn't begin to hear what Cecil Taylor was doing until 37 or so. It's off-putting now, but it might not be later on. But nobody is insisting that you have to listen to it.
lexo30 1 year ago
@lexo30 I'm fifty years old. I've listened to everything my entire life....nature, speaking, music, etc. My opinion is that Cecil Taylor's playing has none of the elements of music that pleases my ear. You can suggest that it's my inadequacy to understand Taylor's complexity that's creating displeasure to my ear, but I don't think so. I think my ear is fine. I think sometimes people look for strange gurus to follow. Here is one.
OLugs 1 year ago
@OLugs I'm eleven years younger than you. I don't know about 'guru'; I know Taylor is an intellectual musician (i.e. he's also a writer and thinker) but I haven't read anything he's written. All I'm saying is that there's nothing wrong with my ear either, and I like the sound of his music. It's demanding and complex, but he's not a charlatan. He's the real thing. If you follow the course of his recordings, you can hear the direction he moves in and it makes musical sense.
lexo30 1 year ago
@lexo30 Well, then, it's all just subjective. You like it and I don't. Your ears interpret him differently than mine. I think he is most definitely a charlatan. I won't follow the course of his recordings because that would be buying into what I believe to be a deception.
OLugs 1 year ago
@OLugs It's your choice, but all I would say is that just because you don't like something, doesn't mean it's bad. It could be that he's doing so many things at once that your ear can't make sense of it. To me, a typical charlatan in music is someone who does something very banal and stupid but comes on like it's incredibly profound and meaningful (e.g. Lou Reed). If you listen to Taylor's earliest stuff (like Jazz Advance), you can hear that he started out as a very advanced jazz player.
lexo30 1 year ago
@lexo30 My opinion of his music and persona is not intended to change your (or anyone else's) opinion. But I find this facet of art to be like an unappealing sideshow. It insinuates that the 'music' sounds the way it does due to its complexity. I disagree. I think it sounds that way because he's drunk. His mismatched stockings, etc.....It makes me smirk, but not much more. I'm not a Lou reed fan, either lol! Ornette is more my speed.
OLugs 1 year ago
@OLugs As far as I know, Cecil Taylor is not a big drinker. He is, however, 81 years old and I don't especially care whether his stockings match or not. (My socks tend not to match, either.) This is also not a good video to watch in order to see what he can do. Most of it seems to be him playing exercises or working out sequences - if he can be said to play sequences. I'm glad you like Ornette, anyway.
lexo30 1 year ago
@lexo30 I have been told he likes to drink quite a bit. He sure sounds drunk, in my opinion. The comment about the stockings was to make the point that, I think he presents himself as a "jester" type of character. And like a jester, he seems to be beyond ridicule. But, I don't buy it. I don't believe in it. I think it's a hoax.
OLugs 1 year ago
@OLugs If this is the only Cecil Taylor you're going on, then you could be forgiven for not getting why he is a great musician. This video does not present his music at all well. If you have actually listened to a good deal of his stuff - there's quite a lot down the side of the screen there - and you still think that he is for some reason hoaxing everyone, and that a lot of intelligent listeners have been taken in - then you are just plain wrong. I'd post a link but youtube won't let me.
lexo30 1 year ago
@lexo30 But, see, I don't need to be forgiven for anything. He is a "great musician" to you, not to me. I don't need to study the guy's entire history and try to uncover any missing links if whatever it might have sounded like led him to this point. And, if I fall outside of all the "intelligent listener" range because of my opinion, then please accept the fact that what you may consider as being my ignorance of Taylor's "music" is actually my bliss. :)
OLugs 1 year ago
The hell is wrong with this dude playing them fucked up chord? Then its the guy on guitar. It sounds like someone trying to tune a piano.
coolwafferman 1 year ago
@coolwafferman That's Cecil Taylor. He's probably the most brilliant and innovative improvising musician alive today. You owe him respect, and if he says somebody is good then it's his opinion that's worth listening to.
lexo30 1 year ago
Why are so many free jazz musicians batshit crazy?
Superphilipp 1 year ago
@Superphilipp It's not that. It's that mainstream jazz musicians are, for the most part, fucking boring.
lexo30 1 year ago
@lexo30 I can't agree with you there. If there are parts of "mainstream jazz" that are boring, it is due to artists who don't evolve or only parrot the ideas of others. And you get plenty of those on either side of the avant-garde.
And most of the really innovative "mainstream" jazzers were completely crazy too (Mingus, Monk, Miles, Powell, Rollins, ...)
Superphilipp 1 year ago
@Superphilipp The innovators in jazz, people like the ones you mention, are people who moved the music along. What I have a problem with in jazz is the idea, very common in jazz education, that there's a more or less fixed body of work that you become the master of, and methods that you can use to play jazz the way it should be played - that's teaching jazz the way people are taught to play classical music, and it kils jazz. Mingus, Monk, Miles, Powell and Rollins invented new ways of playing.
lexo30 1 year ago
@Superphilipp Also, Mingus may have had a vicious temper, Monk was definitely eccentric and Powell was arguably mentally ill, but Miles wasn't and Rollins isn't 'completely crazy'. Sure, Rollins served time for theft but that's because he was a junkie at one point. Miles was just a prick, or liked it to be thought that he was. (Don't get me wrong, I think that Miles is the second-greatest bandleader in jazz after Ellington.)
lexo30 1 year ago
This brings back distant memories...of me being three and slamming on the keyboard. Perhaps if I stuck with that I would be famous too.
Ohflautistpleaze 1 year ago
Love the shot@4'33 --How he's talking about 'Derek being so individual' towards the orange and black banded furry tutu thangy on the barrel while wearing the one orange, one black sock. CT is as Free, Funky and Stylish as he wants to be.
blackrocknutt 1 year ago
@todonne. when i was about 16 i asked myself same question-- 52 now. spent two months that summer listening to nothing but CT's AIR ABOVE MOUNTAINS-- eventually had a couple epiphanies: Cecil's music is dense but full of melody. He's improvising symphonies on one instrument every time he plays. so imagine strings,brass,reeds, percussion etc. his stamina,integrity, intellect, idiosyncrasy,self-determination move me too. A truly free Black man liberates all.
U must see him LIVE too.The Drama!
blackrocknutt 1 year ago
All of you dissing Cecil,wtf do you know bout him?You think he's crazy because he choses to put his mind in a dream sequence all the time. This is why his music is so far out. What did you expect? a man with atie talking about bank investments. God,grow up,the man is a genuine artist and a legend. And his style is evolving, But like any musician he has his distinguive tones and sticks to them. Leave Cecil alone,fools.
spaceprophetdogon 1 year ago 2
he was stoned
iandragon 1 year ago
can someone explain why people love his music so much? The music seems hard to play but it just seems like a barrage of notes. I can't appreciate it, I don't get it. I love music and I like Jazz and I want to understand this. Can someone explain why this music is appealing?
todonne3 1 year ago
@todonne3 it's liberating, free of the traditional conventions of experience. jazz is about a person telling a story, their story. and his story is not for everyone. it's a story about removing paradigms constructed by experience, and describing experience independent of concepts that arise as a result of what's experienced.
kr7437a 1 year ago
Everthing hes saying is cool but, sucks how they edited this makes what hes saying seem disjointed.
loren1283 1 year ago
Air Above Mountains?
brabazon10 2 years ago
I felt kind of relieved to see this clip, because Taylor's music is just so advanced, and almost inhumanly genius, but here, although rather eccentric, he is as human and approachable as my music teacher. So in a way, this kind of clip that shows his domestic side is a nice accompaniment to the surreal and otherworldly world of his music. Made me laugh that he was singing and dancing to the sweet sentimental songs that he would never, ever, play on his piano!
hellofromchieko 2 years ago 8
@hellofromchieko actually Cecil's first albums feature him playing sentimental songs ie 'standards' --check out JAZZ ADVANCE, LOOKING AHEAD, A.I.R. and NYC R&B. he abandoned that repertoire by '63 but was no stranger to ballads and bop changes . whrere he was always headed though was towards becoming an improviser whose imagination demanded the freedom of symphonies and jazz drumming
blackrocknutt 6 months ago
BAT SHIT CRAZY !!!
Love your old stuff Cecil.
SidewalkFrequencies 2 years ago
I heard Cecil play be-bop II-IV cycling changes while soloing over them at an incredible speed, faster than anyone I've ever heard, back in the late 70's in Boston. Incredible chops
artjamz2 2 years ago 2
I've been playing music for almost 50 years and Cecil Taylor is the most advanced musician on the planet. I would love to meet him before he makes the great transition that we all must make someday.
artjamz2 2 years ago 2
It comes with age and wisdom, and a feeling of freedom from everything while you learn to FEEL creativity. And to do that you must be open to the emotions given off by everything, not just people, but every animal, plant and everything on the planet.
artjamz2 2 years ago
Cecil is out there! I would love to meet him and just talk to him. A lot of you out there may think he's crazy or eccentric, but I understand what he's saying.
artjamz2 2 years ago
2:27!!!!! LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!
iplaymusc 2 years ago
love his music but what the fuck is he talking about?
shadden1107 2 years ago
Now here´s a genius !!!
c15art 2 years ago 2
was watchin this in my jazz class at WOLFSON MDC.. this dude is CRAZY lol
kekilicious11 2 years ago
wow Kendell campus student here, just looking through my old jazz and pop music book, and decided to look him up.
malacoda25 2 years ago
big up to MDC students!! but Cecil taylor is still crazy lol
kekilicious11 2 years ago
i think one issue is the associations people have.. in listening to cecil's music there is no direct association to any genre. a kneejerk would be jazz.. but this isnt jazz. inspired by but not it.
its his music.
and this is a great clip because you can see hes not improvising. all of this music is written down. although he's abandoned conventional staff notation. he writes down note names and places them in vertical relationship to each other to establish range.
freejazzfree 2 years ago
Haha, I dig Taylor, but seeing him dance in capri pants just made me giggle uncontrollably
bridog6996 2 years ago
It's inresting how Cecil quotes folks that played more in the "box "as his inspirations are heroes (yin/yang?). He had to find a way to be recognized as all the greats did because cloning wasn't cool at all then like it apparently is now. He's is no more strange then the masses of clones who'll almost will believe anything you tell or feed them.
jazz1bro 2 years ago
Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie, were considered pretty "out" in their time. Not like Cecil was, but still, people who were into swing were put off by bebop.
bradh57 2 years ago
Honestly.
Cecil Taylor if you consider time is oooooold scholl!
I don't think it would be anyone like him. In this 50's he was already waaaaaay beyond his time. And still he is.
PauloNideck 2 years ago
I do understand it. If you were to write his solos down I'm sure there wouldn't be much difference, one to the next. I always enjoyed his spirit and I love his compositions but his solo piano is so repetitive.
jlevinson6 2 years ago
So many of the comments here are the definition of outrecuidance. One thing the obviously highly sophisticated naysayers should ask themselves is why almost all the great musicians hold him in the highest esteem. And why Max Roach, Elvin Jones and Art Blakey (to name a few) were always eager to play with him. Listen again to his music, with a more elevated mind (if possible) and try to contemplate what these other great musical minds were hearing -- that so many seem to be incapable of.
otnohc 2 years ago
I'll say again....listen to the music. He repeats the same ideas over and over and over again. Listen to the stuff on the blue note record and the early records where he was still attempting to say something and say it with integrity and originality. Amazing. Last 30 years too many people saying how great he is and he listened.
jlevinson6 2 years ago
jlevinson6, i dont understand how can you be against Taylor or criticising his latest works. I mean, we know many jazz piano players still touring and doing S.O.S. (Same-Old-Shit) for years and years, same standards, same ideas on the solos (saving some notes) etc etc. What I think is that you are just not able to understand it and thats why you say that, thats normal, I didn't liked some musicians first time I listened them, but I listened again and again and read about to understand their art!
MrGanyan 2 years ago
you can not dismiss that, when the 5 year old child playing the piano
vihtorik 2 years ago
Here we have a great master of Western, African-American music who has been honored with many high awards, and then there's "jlevinson6" who's a completely unqualified critic. Cecil isn't a young man any more, and he's seen (and been part of, and has created) a great deal of modern musical history, Disrespect toward one's elders is a nasty sentiment, "jlevinson6." Get it? Now shut up, or do better than Cecil has... you toad.
ThePilsnerX 2 years ago
Rather than call me names why don't you actually dispute my claim...listen to his music...he starts off the music with the same riff...over and over and over. HE was great in the late 50's and I still like his tunes and his poetry and his persona, but musically he's done nothing but repeat himself over and over. Could have been great had critics really listened and forced him to play.
jlevinson6 2 years ago
Cecil is an amazing player and composer. I don't understand where you are coming from with your remark, "Could have been great had critics really listened and forced him to play". Are you kidding? Critics only listen to each other talking. Talking about "forcing him to play", that is just some adolescent nonsense.
How do you justify having an opinion about Taylor's music? Back up, young man.
booksteve 2 years ago
Cecil been playing the same shit over and over and over and ya'll been buying into it. What a bunch of suckers.
jlevinson6 2 years ago
I have watched over 20 of his vids on here and I have yet to hear him play any real music. Was he good at one time or something? If so, does anyone have anyone footage of that?
theroyalpriest 2 years ago
its not cecil that needs to change for you.. you have to change for cecil. and then it will make sense. a deeper sense of inquiry is needed.
freejazzfree 2 years ago 11
Rotation of the Earth with waving hands-well...The guy can friggin' outplay anybody. I guess he can spout artful verbal bombast-he has earned the right.
musictflo 2 years ago
He seems a little messed up, but I like him. I think his playing is super cool.
theoryjoe 2 years ago
WHAT-THEFUCK-EVER!!!!
Bi-polar disorder is no laughing matter....he needs to be put on lithium!
Leraoul 2 years ago
he's such a joker
mahoose6 2 years ago
You're missing out
jayhay116 2 years ago
Cecil Taylor has every right to play what he does, and I have every right NOT to listen to it.
timmo1963 2 years ago
What a beautiful, truly wonderful musician and human being. I cant get enough of him or his music, a truly individual voice.
AlannahBabalon156 2 years ago
Sure some of Cecils shit may be out there, taking a lot of patience to listen to, but anyone claiming that he just bangs on keys is absolutely ignorant...just Google Cecil Taylor, and learn more about this amazing musician...listen to what other great jazz musicians have to say about him
smilingcow77 2 years ago
Cheech Marin!!!
wteo340 3 years ago
I love his music ... he's more than human :)
does any one have an mp3 of 'Nefertiti, The Beautiful One Has Come' that could send me? One of the most original pieces I've ever heard!
I can't find it anywhere :'(
Promise I'll the album when some money appears..
XxDariax 3 years ago
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Who's that motherfucker? He can't play shit!
kaschte 3 years ago
you're obviously retarded.
mexicancockfight 2 years ago
I think was kaschte means is he CHOOSES to play "shit".
He knows the history of the music really well, he plays with technical skill, and a great sense of time.
You just object to what he plays, because you don't understand why it doesn't song like a pop tune.
jazztrumpet87 2 years ago
Shallow minds wont comprehend deep music- move on kaschte.
urheadonastick 2 years ago
god what a master.
Abaddon2005 3 years ago 2
angle of incidence,and: gland gland gland... looking corona - corona hypnotic... his mom gave him schopenhauer to read when he was eleven...
therofal 3 years ago
At 11, huh? That´s a trip man. That´s why he´s so warped. It´s a good thing, though.
TokenRah 3 years ago
The world needs people like Cecil. Don't misunderstand my comments- I love the man. But he's so full of it.
ziziva 3 years ago
At the very least, Cecil Taylor is a guy who comes up with distinctive sounds and concepts despite his eccentricities.
logenisti 3 years ago
a horse eating rain in space
orracle bells give
a perpendicular pentamorphic childsmile at edge
therofal 3 years ago
precisely.
ziziva 3 years ago
Don't let Taylor's eccentric style and mannerisms fool you. He knows EXACTLY what he's talking about. What he said about James Brown was the first time I hear someone really understand why Brown's music was so significant and different. Also what he said about the unseen colors of music...listen up.
cavaleer 3 years ago
no man- the dude is off his face. sure, he's far out, but he's full of shit, man. yeah, yeah- sound has color... but 6? wtf? why not 7? (the rainbow) also, "only some" people can experience these colors? bullshit. he's banging, not only on the keys- but on your head too.
ziziva 3 years ago
It is true that a number of people experience sound as color. Look on wikipedia for the term synesthesia.
Onderstekop 3 years ago
Thanks for displaying your ignorance. You obviously haven´t read much about it.
TokenRah 3 years ago
What would you recommend we read?
ziziva 3 years ago
does he know his cigarette isn't lit? Am i missing an important piece of information or is he just really tripping out?
jonnybeatnic 3 years ago
He's always tripping out but he's tripping out with a purpose. The cigarette is just a stylistic prop for him, whether it's lit or not.
cavaleer 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this.
Where did you get this video? where can I find the rest of it?
jasonmusic99 3 years ago
hehe
my tits are SO sore right now!!! :( FI
cengizkan91 3 years ago
it's a very rare occasion that Cecil would allow this to take place in his APT,Brownstone(Blackstone)inside joke in Fort Greene. FELVER you are so Lucky???
alduffy2009 3 years ago
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Cecil Taylor is insane, thank God. He's probably gay, too, does he know? I hope he gets ass.
opinioninflicting 3 years ago
Its awesome to still have some of the legends still kicking. Not many people will bring to the table what Cecil did.
travnic11 3 years ago
I'm a happy man as Cecil!
HottRatt 3 years ago
supertalentedindividual
loftymercury 3 years ago
nice. thanks for posting and sharing!
ADURG1 3 years ago
i dont have enought of a character count to possibly scratch the surface of how inspiring and awsome this is.
edcerc 3 years ago 2
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da fuck is he talkin about?? a bunch of b.s. in my opinion. i guess he doesnt beleive in looking nice or takin shower n stuff.
cadrizzay 3 years ago
Cecil is a genius and a badass! Where can I see the rest of this documentary?
johnoliverescreet 3 years ago 2
He is cute!
takauya 3 years ago
I officially want to hang with Cecil Taylor.
jthemump 3 years ago 2
Wonderful clip! Everything Cecil Taylor said makes so much sense. Wonderful!
nemastoma 3 years ago
yah! to a dog!
athruzathruz 3 years ago
I wish I could see that sheet music...
ProteusQ71 3 years ago 2
it's like he's channelling Bette Davis
around 2:00 !
clawsbeatskin 3 years ago
I love Cecil Taylor's playing. I think I've just lucked out so far that the times I've seen him live have not ever involved poetry, philosophy, endless chanting and groaning, dance, gay sex, or karate.
Soamsey 4 years ago
really cause that's the only that I would want to see, I can do without the playing.
athruzathruz 3 years ago
Better than five stars!
domlash 4 years ago 2
I'm gonna have to steal his dance moves.
anstromm 4 years ago 9
LOL this is f***in hilarious, CT comic shaman !
rhythmking10 4 years ago
great box player cecil is
dreadtodred 4 years ago 2
beautiful shaman
RichardJ60 4 years ago 4