Lets be realistic here, the reason retards do this, is cause they like mustangs, and they do'nt want to recognize mustangs are better cars, then they go and say, oh yeah, its just a mustang, but had to put a cheaprolet engine, and feel that they didnt betrayed their beloved chevrolet, and say, i had to put an LSshit in here to make it go fast!! STOP lying to your selves
You guys are talking motor the ls just lost and the lt1 fucking sucked the 5.0 underatted the 215 and h.o 225 hp that's why gm put the corvettes ls in the camaro and t/a. And the only good thing bout the ls is it is cheap to fix.
Stock for stock that LS1 is a much better choice, in this case... it's just a perfect example of how everything comes down to how much money you have. Let's be honest, if the maro and the fox had the same amount of $ into very similar mods, the maro would win. But the stang had more $ into it. Not saying its a bad car, because it isn't. But the LS1 with the same money into would be faster, plain and simple. Btw the 302 is actually pretty inferior to the LS1... maybe you should compare a 4.6 mod.
first of all i am FORD guy that drives a 347 stroked mustang
5.0.. and trust me an ls1 is one hella of an engine.. a stock ls1 vs
stock 5.0 the ls1 would kill it.. its just the truth but bring in a FORD 351w and
thats a different story now u might b neck to neck breathing on each other depending on the driver.. my point is just b real your not gunna b the fastes car but maybe competitive yes.. get my point anyone..??
@GrantEvanGriffith Look at any stock engine (stock internal) LS car with Bolton's (air intake, Intake mani, T.B., Headers, exhaust, gears, stall, tune, slicks and free mods) and you'll see it. Add a cam, valve springs and roller rockers and it will be well into the 11's
@GrantEvanGriffith ANd did you know theres also stock LS Camaro's runnin low 12's stock engine with stock suspension? And there cam only LS Camaro's runn in the 11's. The GM LS's are just wayyy better then them 5.0's plain and simple. Yeah there nice Ford's but none come close to being as good as a Chevy. . . . . Atleast not without a Chevy engine
I can never understand why people that have 10 second cars always say they're slow....maybe its the same concept as the hot girls who say there ugly or fat, then when everyone and there sister says there skinny and pretty then they feel better about themselves....BTW nice car
You guys are like hens in a chicken coop. This vid is so old. The LS1 slept on the light and he was supposed to spray me but his nitrous was acting up and it was dumping fuel.
Not that it wouldve mattered on those tires but HE called ME out. Silly LSX owners.
@roarracing that camaro had to of been close to stock no way its built. 1 factor is stock ls 1 6 speed on street tires runs 8.1s to 8.3s depens on traction u can get and how u launch
the advantage to the 5.0 is that you can spin more rpm on the stock bottom end/block, because of it's shorter stroke it is more stable. this allows you to use a bigger cam therefore the 14% less displacement is made up by the ability to run 14% (ish) more rpm. effectively equalizing the displacement of the two motors in the power. now with built bottoms and racing blocks the extra displacement is obviously superior, but with factory parts the potential is much closer than you may first think.
OK my 85 5.0 with mild work like bored .030 over, cam, 650cfm carb, and exhaust makes 400 horse and runs around a 12.5 it weighs 2700 the car cost me 600 I have put about 2k in it thats what I call cheap
v10viper04 u can take a 2,500 dollar fox body and put ten grand in it and u have a bad ass car. I have a friend that pieced a fox together and but a stock 351w bottom end and bolted on sum bad ass aluminum heads, intake, carb, and cam, and gears and is in the low elevens and he paid 500 dollars for the car. he dont have anymore than 6,000 in the whole car and has wooped alot of stuff so yea i think u live in opposite world buddy i live in the real one:)
god these kids and there damn bs that there father feeds them about chevy.... break free make your own opinions not the ones your parents tell you to make half of the poeple in here dont even own chevy products probably
@crazyzstang stock vs stock is a real way to prove engines anybody can put mods and say their car is faster but stock vs stock is the real Ford vs Chevy
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of course a stock ls1 will put a beating a a stock fox body mustang.the technology in the ls1 is a whole lot better than the mustang.the ls1 has better flowing heads,bigger cam,and everything else.if the mustang had heads and cam equal to the ls1 it will be a good race you will have to put aftermarket parts on the mustang to be even.I had them both,love them both,I dont talk down on either one of them.the old school cars will never beat a new car..
those dam fox bodies, or as i call them BOX-bodies are so dam light a v6 in them would whoop any other v8 car, i wish the camaro wasnt 3400lbs of fiber glass!
@gittyupalice96 it wouldnt matter 302 is a better motor.always will be.if ford came back out with the 351 dodges@chevys would just have to stay parked cause it wouldnt even be a race.we would be racin the japan cars
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In a drag race a Mustang will normally take it, but in auto cross a Camaro will leave the Mustang in it's dust. Each has their own and are designed with different intent.
2 SECONDS HELL the stock fox came from ford with the stock timing set 10 degrees retarded to restrict the horsepower bump that to about 15 degrees advanced youll be blowin the valve cover off the newer ls1 the facts are in the research do yours dipshit
hey dumb nigger ur daddys STOCK cobra did not run 11.99 dont care what u say ur right ur dumb by the way i am a FORD POWER guy that car wont run that stock thanks
my dad stock 04 cobra ran a 11.99 at 112 mph with a slick now he got a 2010 GT500 just got it yesterday and we took it to the track and it ran a 12.4 on factory tires its est. to run a 11.60's on slicks because that bitch spun like hell thru 1st 2nd and 3rd
over 2 seconds, do you realize how much of a difference that is in racing. You dont know what your talking about. I've seen14.9 for a stock camaro mabey 14.5 with a good driver, and lets say a 1993 5.0 Cobra with what 50 less hp, runs right in the same time frame- Do some research... 2 seconds you've got to be freakin kidding me.
I'm talking completly stock on street tires...Compare the stock 1993 Fox to the stock 1994 Camaro it isnt no two seconds. Do some research!!!
I see fox bodies pulling 13's all day long where I live at. Alot of guys will by-pass the assessories, lower the tire pressure, and bump the timing, with 93 octane and pull 13's in foxes all day.
im talking about an ls1. not an lt1. and you can do all of those things to the camaro too. a fox-body is a good car but it can't stay with an ls1 in the 1/4
Gotche my bad... ls1's come with better heads and more horsepower. Yeah a stock ls1 will walk a stock 5.0 in the 1/4. But a stock fox coupe will get down into the low to mid 14's on street tires, i'v seen stock ls1's pull high 13's on street tires. Just a mis-understanding thats all.
The mustang GT has not been faster then the Camaro or Firebird for quite some time. My stock firebird(well to come clean it had a catback) ran a 12.8 and the mustang GT next to me had Gears Intake headers and a "tune" he ran a 13.2
the only mustang N/A worth talking about it the Mach one
i will take on any camaro that is stock i am not racist against any particular make of car they can all be fast but for you to say a stock camaro can smoke a mustang especially with the bolt on's you described your retarded and need your head examined ap
put any 93 and later mustanggt up against any stock camaro z-28 and the camaro will smoke it every time. my 94 was stock except headers and I i smoked a 94 gt with edelbrock heads, intake, cam and a bunch of other bolt ons and a pretty fresh rebuild! needless to say the guy that owned the 5.slow was not happy!!!
candylover....a 94 z28 with a good driver runs mid 13's
They get out of the hole faster than the ls1's due to having most of their torque at a lower rpm. Where did you hear that an lt1 camaro runs high 14s? my stock 97 cadillac eldorado runs low-mid 14's
94-95 mustang Gt's suck period. There heavy, the computers pull timming and are a nightmare too tune. A HCI 94-95 will be lucky to hit 290hp with a really good tune and might be a high 13 second car with real sticky tires and a really good driver.
'96-'98 Cobra's are JUNK >>>That's funny !!! I've watch my buddies with '96-'98 Cobra's purchased new bone stock run in high 13's. If you have seen 14.50's you might better check to see if the driver is someone's elderly grandmother or has the parking brake activated.
um..stock new edge GTs can run high 13's. also, i know of a 95 GT with full exhaust, CAI, gears, and grad radials that runs high 13's...and he is a decent driver
Yep, I'm a Ford man, but in 93, the Fbody went the LT1 route (along with new body), and it was the beast on the street until 96 when the 4.6 DOHC went into the Cobras. But, then came the LS1. But then came the supercharged 4.6 DOHC. But by then, the fbody was in the grave.
ok so im a big mustang fan, but when comparing motors id have to say a ls1 is a better motor but compare it with maybe a 4.6 4v im going to go w/ that, i think that a beeter comp. would be a 80's 350 w/ tbi or maybe a lt1, its unfar to compare competely diff gens even a 4.6 2v vs ls1 would b a better comp, and just to let u guys no all engines have potential even a 1.6 honda, and to comment on the uglyness of the fox body um have u seen a 80s camaro, all cars in the 80s look like ass
first the mustangs have never been close to GM except for the cobras with Schargers, but thats terrible to brag about ur scharged car beating a N/A car, u cant brag on that...TPInjection camaros/firebirds with 350 ran 14.30's-15.0's, then LT1 came in 93 in camaro/firebird and the trans am/Z28/SS ran between 13.80's-14.20's, then the bad dogs the LS1 from 1998-2000 LS1 .2 tenths faster than LT1's, then 01-02 LS1 got Z06 intakes and different cam and heads and ran 12.99-13.5 6spd was faster
I'm tired of these pointless pissing matches between chevy and ford fans. Who gives a fuck what the stock times were on these cars? Nobody leaves their cars stock anyway, Mustangs and Camaros were made to be modified. You run what you got, and hope it's enough. I bought the fastest thing I could afford, if money were no object i'd be driving a new ZR-1 Vette!
I agree with your post on the Ford/Chevy battle. But I do question your last statement - If you had the money, why settle for the vette, only to be spanked by a Super Snake????
The SuperSnake runs 12's in the 1/4 mile, while ZR1 is 11.5 Remember the "Money is no object" thing? Well, of course the ZR-1 wouldnt be stock...then all bets are off.
No, No, No... What you forgot to mention was in that test article they bolted up drag slicks in an attempt to run 10's. Mickey Thompsons. We're talking off the showroom floor here. The Road&Track test was done with stock tires. If you' re going to leave out details like that, make sure you find an article where they bolted up slicks to the vette. Besides, if it's in a magazine, it must be true...Right? To answer your question, YES someone does know their facts.
Yup, 10.8s with the only mod being drag radials. They still had to launch at a very low rpm to hook up. I believe it ran low 11's right off the show room floor?. add a set of slicks and you're in the low 10s
You've got it backwards. The '03-'04 Cobras were rated at 390 stock, but actually put out around 420. Ask me how I know..hehe. My car is sooo far from stock now it is difficult to remember what 400hp felt like. That's the beauty of those cars, you can make big power with just a few upgrades.
let see acording to tamestang that is a 351 with spray. ive only heard of 5.0 becoming 347 strokers. if that is a built 351 with spray it better beat a stock camaro. lt or ls. any of you that think a 5.0 is a better motor than an ls is an idiot. maybe a BUILT stroked 5.0 with n20 vs a stock ls. i cant believe what im hearing it just goes to show how naive ppl are. a 20yr old engine kills technology. yea right. ford always been down on power. needs f/i to keep up. 5.0's are ugly and slow. period.
The camaro was far from stock ;) was setup for juice as you can hear the tight converter. He also slept on the tree :P If we had raced bottle to bottle it would've been much worse. Was just a fun race nothing for money anyway. too many people get their panties in a wad :P
@roarracing man u got people posting all kinda of dumbass comments on yo shit! haters should not be allowed on youtube!!! WTF!!! its only youtube!!! btw u kicked that camaros ass!!!! thats wha the fuck is SUPPOSE TO HAPPEN!!!!! FUCK CHEVY!!! 5.0s for LIFE!!!!
look i cant watch the video again cause im at work. but if i remember correctly those were lt taillights anyway. and yes. a 92 camaro looks better than a 92 chrysler lebarron, er i mean mustang. however not ALL of them look bad. just 99% of them. and same pretty much goes for the neigbor kids busted ass camaro as well. honestly that part is an opinion. what all was done to your mustang? and whats it run? oh and ppl put converters in stock camaros. a stock ls with one WILL run a 12. w/o juice.
Wow. I'm such a dick some times. It's a matter of opinion really. The whole "numbers don't lie" argument is pretty much played out though. A mustang can be taken just as far as any other sports car if you got the cash.
I'm almost stock actually. I don't claim to be a racer. I like the capabilities of a 302 with Edelbrock upper and lower intake, full custom flowmaster exhaust with dumps , 355 gears, posi rear end and some nice wheels. I could use a nice paintjob though thats for sure. I'm too broke for a camera but I will probably start backing my claims up in the next month when I get off my ass and race.
ok well your talking about 80's cars right? so lets keep it in the 80...mustang gt ran a 15.1 at 93 mph and the iroc camaro (5.7L) ran a 15.3 @ 90pmh AND the notch stang ran a 14.7 @ 95 mph..... both n/a cars where do you see f/i in a stock fox body?
@TheyCallMeAlex89 Sure a 5.0L is a better engine lol. It doesn't make as much power in stock form but it is a better engine nonetheless. A STOCK 5.0 shortblock will handle over 500 hp and 7,000 rpm and a complete 5.0L engine assembly can be had for $300 or less on Craigslist. How much does a complete running LS1 engine cost? $2,000? Since you hadn't heard of a 351 we can assume you don't know a lot about this stuff. 351 is a small block Ford engine that can also be had for a few hundred bucks.
@GrantEvanGriffith i dont think people know what sum guys have done. like you said theres a good bit of fox coupes that are stock with a few small tweaks to help them hook and they took things off of them for weight and to help free up the motor. and have them runnin 12s! these are not gutted race cars just choice mods to help in the pursuit of 12s. i also seen stock motor aod foxbody coupe cars with prochargers runnin 10s!!! its all documented in 5.0 magizine n/a 12 sec and 10 sec blown cars
@TheyCallMeAlex89 the last part was an opinion and now we have the new 2011 gt beating which car??? not talking shit just opening your eyes. The ls1 isnt god. I have a owned many camaros and i currently own two cobras. One 03 and one 98. I miss being able to throw a set of heads cam and intake and seeing a gain of over 40 rwhp. 40 rwhp may be the most i can get out of my engine with a H/C/I swap. Thats why the 98 is getting a turbo setup i think. or i might supercharge it
look over at related vids. click the one that says 04 cobra vs camaro ss. and that will show you why i think what i think. especially from a dig. its got a pic of a red cobra on it. and you cannot tell me that 5.slow is faster that that s/c cobra. UNLESS it has one or more of the mods i stated.
people have to do heads and cams ect to get the 4.6l to 300 rwhp and thats a much better motor. the ls1 will put 300rwhp down stock. just because it can burn out does not make it fast. but even an unlucky auto ls1 w/a bad driver could run that slow. something is up with that car. like maybe its a v6 or soemthing idk. vid didnt even show what the camaro ran. im def thinking its a 347 stoker.
LMAO!i hope the first couple comments were jokes... 5.0 bigger than 5.6(7) w/e you wanna call it. and 5.0 better motor? if i ever lost to a 5.0 in my camaro i would shoot myself in the face. though that was a stroker for damn sure. and probably had n2o. and thats completely believable at 12.8. he said basically stock. if he is active on ls1 boards he knows intake exhaust and headers is basically stock. its cams and heads that really make these cars scream. also i almost wanna say that was an lt.
i would think a stroker and no n20 would, and i guess that a wicked cam and heads setup would too now that i think about it. i just remember racing a 5.0 w a hci setup and blew its doors off. all i had was a small cam and gears and of course supporting mods. i must have been thinking 11's when i wrote that. but i was saying it cause they make 215hp to the crank stock. they are pretty light though. either way, i do not believe that was an ls1. if it was something was wrong with it.
they can be. they have great potential for dirt cheap too. but all american cars are that way. i'm sure you can build an ls1 to have a 408 stroker motor. or a 351w into a stroker motor too. both great cars.
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Lets be realistic here, the reason retards do this, is cause they like mustangs, and they do'nt want to recognize mustangs are better cars, then they go and say, oh yeah, its just a mustang, but had to put a cheaprolet engine, and feel that they didnt betrayed their beloved chevrolet, and say, i had to put an LSshit in here to make it go fast!! STOP lying to your selves
1964bbf390fe 3 weeks ago
The stang is a drag car! Lets make it even... Raze a camaro drag car... Street car vs street car, and drag car vs drag car... Make it even.
LT1FORMULA6SPEED 1 month ago
You guys are talking motor the ls just lost and the lt1 fucking sucked the 5.0 underatted the 215 and h.o 225 hp that's why gm put the corvettes ls in the camaro and t/a. And the only good thing bout the ls is it is cheap to fix.
SHTINONCHEVY 2 months ago
yeeaahhh baby
punchmaster123 5 months ago
these ford guys are crazy,the ls1 is superior in every way to a 302
osp80 5 months ago
Stock for stock that LS1 is a much better choice, in this case... it's just a perfect example of how everything comes down to how much money you have. Let's be honest, if the maro and the fox had the same amount of $ into very similar mods, the maro would win. But the stang had more $ into it. Not saying its a bad car, because it isn't. But the LS1 with the same money into would be faster, plain and simple. Btw the 302 is actually pretty inferior to the LS1... maybe you should compare a 4.6 mod.
need2speed94 5 months ago
how much does a fox body weigh
mwd92 7 months ago
fuck a ford Chevy all the way i burn musky stanes all the time i mean mustang
deelowhoe 7 months ago
come on everybody why does it matter anyways..
first of all i am FORD guy that drives a 347 stroked mustang
5.0.. and trust me an ls1 is one hella of an engine.. a stock ls1 vs
stock 5.0 the ls1 would kill it.. its just the truth but bring in a FORD 351w and
thats a different story now u might b neck to neck breathing on each other depending on the driver.. my point is just b real your not gunna b the fastes car but maybe competitive yes.. get my point anyone..??
DatDooDJuan08 11 months ago
@DatDooDJuan08 thank you, nicely put.....
UBeesh10 11 months ago
@TheyCallMeAlex89 - a 5.0 can also be a 363, just saying.
black87gt 11 months ago
american cars blow...except for the new ZR1 corvette...when did americans learn to use fully independent suspension? woot!
AndyRock1 11 months ago
@AndyRock1 fully independent suspension causes wheel hop to become more likely.....that grenades rear ends and its just bad for drag.....
UBeesh10 11 months ago
@GrantEvanGriffith Look at any stock engine (stock internal) LS car with Bolton's (air intake, Intake mani, T.B., Headers, exhaust, gears, stall, tune, slicks and free mods) and you'll see it. Add a cam, valve springs and roller rockers and it will be well into the 11's
steelcityracer1320 1 year ago
@foxrod90 hell yea you bet your ass!! Lol Chevy can take a hike, or the bailout! Hahahaha
spikejones4567 1 year ago
@GrantEvanGriffith ANd did you know theres also stock LS Camaro's runnin low 12's stock engine with stock suspension? And there cam only LS Camaro's runn in the 11's. The GM LS's are just wayyy better then them 5.0's plain and simple. Yeah there nice Ford's but none come close to being as good as a Chevy. . . . . Atleast not without a Chevy engine
steelcityracer1320 1 year ago
@steelcityracer1320 Show me a stock engine with stock suspension ls camaro running low 12s' lol. Ive seen an ls1 SS camaro run 12.9s.
GrantEvanGriffith 1 year ago
I can never understand why people that have 10 second cars always say they're slow....maybe its the same concept as the hot girls who say there ugly or fat, then when everyone and there sister says there skinny and pretty then they feel better about themselves....BTW nice car
HO84transam 1 year ago
fuck the ls1. you couldnt pay me enough to take a ls powered car
foxrod90 1 year ago
You guys are like hens in a chicken coop. This vid is so old. The LS1 slept on the light and he was supposed to spray me but his nitrous was acting up and it was dumping fuel.
Not that it wouldve mattered on those tires but HE called ME out. Silly LSX owners.
Btw check out my other wheels up vid ;)
- Slow Five-O
roarracing 1 year ago
@roarracing that camaro had to of been close to stock no way its built. 1 factor is stock ls 1 6 speed on street tires runs 8.1s to 8.3s depens on traction u can get and how u launch
BLSREAPER 1 year ago
the Mustang ran a 7, the camaro ran 8
ford ftw
fuxbox 1 year ago 2
gay ass cumstain 5.0 bow down to the ls1
protaper15f 1 year ago
@protaper15f yet the ls1lost ahhaha wow haters
saleenxxx 1 year ago
the advantage to the 5.0 is that you can spin more rpm on the stock bottom end/block, because of it's shorter stroke it is more stable. this allows you to use a bigger cam therefore the 14% less displacement is made up by the ability to run 14% (ish) more rpm. effectively equalizing the displacement of the two motors in the power. now with built bottoms and racing blocks the extra displacement is obviously superior, but with factory parts the potential is much closer than you may first think.
lukefresh58 1 year ago
wow! is that hood factory stock too??
mikester9er 1 year ago
uh huh...that sure is a slow 5.0 xDD
MustangsMan 1 year ago
looks like a stock ls1 camaro vs 1/4 mile race ready stang.
philthyco 1 year ago
OK my 85 5.0 with mild work like bored .030 over, cam, 650cfm carb, and exhaust makes 400 horse and runs around a 12.5 it weighs 2700 the car cost me 600 I have put about 2k in it thats what I call cheap
snakebite216 2 years ago 2
v10viper04 u can take a 2,500 dollar fox body and put ten grand in it and u have a bad ass car. I have a friend that pieced a fox together and but a stock 351w bottom end and bolted on sum bad ass aluminum heads, intake, carb, and cam, and gears and is in the low elevens and he paid 500 dollars for the car. he dont have anymore than 6,000 in the whole car and has wooped alot of stuff so yea i think u live in opposite world buddy i live in the real one:)
mustangboy8889 2 years ago
Stock Vs Stock Motor ????
CammedSilverado 2 years ago
yea
airsoftg0d 2 years ago
mustang will always be your best bang for your buck car. no matter what.
mustangboy8889 2 years ago 15
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How so? Mustangs cost more and are SLOWER... OHH you must live in opposite world :)
sorry man.
v10viper04 2 years ago
Alright, plenty of know it all's on here.
What's faster.
Peak horsepower or column average?
A car making 389 ft.lbs at 4400rpm
or
A car making 363 ft.lbs at 5400rpm ?
What is the HP of the above example?
fidstang 2 years ago
She said it all, "Ya, baby!" :D
Restaurant25 2 years ago
god these kids and there damn bs that there father feeds them about chevy.... break free make your own opinions not the ones your parents tell you to make half of the poeple in here dont even own chevy products probably
xtreme3484 2 years ago 3
Couldnt agree more. Me for example, u said it all. But i broke free and went foxbody :D
JameZCody 1 year ago
@JameZCody lol my dads a dodge guy he has the new challenger and a jeep and a 1500 ram. its bull
xtreme3484 1 year ago
stock stock stock sock that all you bitches cry about.... stock sucks
crazyzstang 2 years ago
@crazyzstang stock vs stock is a real way to prove engines anybody can put mods and say their car is faster but stock vs stock is the real Ford vs Chevy
ModMob 2 years ago
@ModMob the 89 camaro has a better chance
mattbenluke 1 year ago
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of course a stock ls1 will put a beating a a stock fox body mustang.the technology in the ls1 is a whole lot better than the mustang.the ls1 has better flowing heads,bigger cam,and everything else.if the mustang had heads and cam equal to the ls1 it will be a good race you will have to put aftermarket parts on the mustang to be even.I had them both,love them both,I dont talk down on either one of them.the old school cars will never beat a new car..
lvlik9 2 years ago
those dam fox bodies, or as i call them BOX-bodies are so dam light a v6 in them would whoop any other v8 car, i wish the camaro wasnt 3400lbs of fiber glass!
gittyupalice96 2 years ago 7
@gittyupalice96 really it would? haha so it would beat a drag rail or funny car? yeah right
normanaw 1 year ago
@gittyupalice96 it wouldnt matter 302 is a better motor.always will be.if ford came back out with the 351 dodges@chevys would just have to stay parked cause it wouldnt even be a race.we would be racin the japan cars
capri1985302 6 months ago
@capri1985302 hahahahah yeah right, you idiotic fuck.
mellenjuice 5 months ago
@capri1985302 Seriously? I like how the LT/LS series engines completely left the 215 horsepower 302 in the 90s.
Model192 4 months ago
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In a drag race a Mustang will normally take it, but in auto cross a Camaro will leave the Mustang in it's dust. Each has their own and are designed with different intent.
killler73 2 years ago
2 SECONDS HELL the stock fox came from ford with the stock timing set 10 degrees retarded to restrict the horsepower bump that to about 15 degrees advanced youll be blowin the valve cover off the newer ls1 the facts are in the research do yours dipshit
chipcomandr 2 years ago 4
hey dumb nigger ur daddys STOCK cobra did not run 11.99 dont care what u say ur right ur dumb by the way i am a FORD POWER guy that car wont run that stock thanks
chipcomandr 2 years ago
haha is screen name actually is dumb nigger......what a stupid nigger
savagexhaley14 2 years ago
BUZZ needs to watch more vids
chipcomandr 2 years ago
my dad stock 04 cobra ran a 11.99 at 112 mph with a slick now he got a 2010 GT500 just got it yesterday and we took it to the track and it ran a 12.4 on factory tires its est. to run a 11.60's on slicks because that bitch spun like hell thru 1st 2nd and 3rd
Dmbnigga4life 2 years ago
yah sure
mactiasboy328 2 years ago
yet again the fox body makes junk out of another LS1 shit!! hahaha
chipcomandr 2 years ago
lol you're funny
1985camaroirocz 2 years ago
lol youre pissed that hes right :]
Hurley7490 2 years ago
nope just makeing fun of him
1985camaroirocz 2 years ago
haha. yet again. that 5.0 must have spent a fortune with all those mods. this is the FIRST vid of a ford beating a chevy. seriously.
srmbuzz 2 years ago
part for part an ls1 will rape a 302. and the stock ls1 camaro does over 2 seconds better in the 1/4 than the stock fox stang does
savagexhaley14 2 years ago
over 2 seconds, do you realize how much of a difference that is in racing. You dont know what your talking about. I've seen14.9 for a stock camaro mabey 14.5 with a good driver, and lets say a 1993 5.0 Cobra with what 50 less hp, runs right in the same time frame- Do some research... 2 seconds you've got to be freakin kidding me.
JayGeePee1 2 years ago
where i live the ls1 f-bodies run 13.0 and a 5.0 fox runs 15.0. if thats not two seconds i dont know what is.
savagexhaley14 2 years ago
I'm talking completly stock on street tires...Compare the stock 1993 Fox to the stock 1994 Camaro it isnt no two seconds. Do some research!!!
I see fox bodies pulling 13's all day long where I live at. Alot of guys will by-pass the assessories, lower the tire pressure, and bump the timing, with 93 octane and pull 13's in foxes all day.
JayGeePee1 2 years ago
im talking about an ls1. not an lt1. and you can do all of those things to the camaro too. a fox-body is a good car but it can't stay with an ls1 in the 1/4
savagexhaley14 2 years ago
Gotche my bad... ls1's come with better heads and more horsepower. Yeah a stock ls1 will walk a stock 5.0 in the 1/4. But a stock fox coupe will get down into the low to mid 14's on street tires, i'v seen stock ls1's pull high 13's on street tires. Just a mis-understanding thats all.
JayGeePee1 2 years ago
my ass motor to motor
1quick94gt 2 years ago
what did you end up running in that crapstang
GARRISSONJ 2 years ago
The mustang GT has not been faster then the Camaro or Firebird for quite some time. My stock firebird(well to come clean it had a catback) ran a 12.8 and the mustang GT next to me had Gears Intake headers and a "tune" he ran a 13.2
the only mustang N/A worth talking about it the Mach one
nitr0racing21 3 years ago
Well, from 1993 until 2002, and that's if you aren't talking about Cobras. Yes, a 96 and 97 Mustang Cobra will beat a 93-97 Fbody of any kind.
iceguy2003 3 years ago
i will take on any camaro that is stock i am not racist against any particular make of car they can all be fast but for you to say a stock camaro can smoke a mustang especially with the bolt on's you described your retarded and need your head examined ap
hawg76 3 years ago
put any 93 and later mustanggt up against any stock camaro z-28 and the camaro will smoke it every time. my 94 was stock except headers and I i smoked a 94 gt with edelbrock heads, intake, cam and a bunch of other bolt ons and a pretty fresh rebuild! needless to say the guy that owned the 5.slow was not happy!!!
BobCrazy1979 3 years ago
The only way you beat a 94 gt with heads and a cam is if the guy wasnt racing. becuse thats a low 13's car vs your high 14 sec z28.
candylover3633 3 years ago
candylover....a 94 z28 with a good driver runs mid 13's
They get out of the hole faster than the ls1's due to having most of their torque at a lower rpm. Where did you hear that an lt1 camaro runs high 14s? my stock 97 cadillac eldorado runs low-mid 14's
bbrewer5 3 years ago
94-95 mustang Gt's suck period. There heavy, the computers pull timming and are a nightmare too tune. A HCI 94-95 will be lucky to hit 290hp with a really good tune and might be a high 13 second car with real sticky tires and a really good driver.
lethal982 3 years ago
96 and 97 cobras are junk and dont run faster than 14.50's, the LT1 F-bodys ran 13.80's-14.20's consistant
amyk1406 3 years ago
'96-'98 Cobra's are JUNK >>>That's funny !!! I've watch my buddies with '96-'98 Cobra's purchased new bone stock run in high 13's. If you have seen 14.50's you might better check to see if the driver is someone's elderly grandmother or has the parking brake activated.
50RNDCLP 2 years ago
um..stock new edge GTs can run high 13's. also, i know of a 95 GT with full exhaust, CAI, gears, and grad radials that runs high 13's...and he is a decent driver
yuutuba11 3 years ago
Besides a 93 is still a fox body that would walk all over your z
candylover3633 3 years ago
a 93 Foxbody wont "walk" all over a z28 of the same year. Get your head out of your ass.
Pracerdohczx2 3 years ago
Yep, I'm a Ford man, but in 93, the Fbody went the LT1 route (along with new body), and it was the beast on the street until 96 when the 4.6 DOHC went into the Cobras. But, then came the LS1. But then came the supercharged 4.6 DOHC. But by then, the fbody was in the grave.
iceguy2003 3 years ago 2
a 94 cobra runs a 15 sec quarter mile a foxbody runs a mid 14
bvlover1993 3 years ago
ok so im a big mustang fan, but when comparing motors id have to say a ls1 is a better motor but compare it with maybe a 4.6 4v im going to go w/ that, i think that a beeter comp. would be a 80's 350 w/ tbi or maybe a lt1, its unfar to compare competely diff gens even a 4.6 2v vs ls1 would b a better comp, and just to let u guys no all engines have potential even a 1.6 honda, and to comment on the uglyness of the fox body um have u seen a 80s camaro, all cars in the 80s look like ass
hotviper79 3 years ago
what's wrong with 80's camaro? they look great and can turn well. Optioned with right motor and trans pretty quick too.
yevgenievich 3 years ago 2
first the mustangs have never been close to GM except for the cobras with Schargers, but thats terrible to brag about ur scharged car beating a N/A car, u cant brag on that...TPInjection camaros/firebirds with 350 ran 14.30's-15.0's, then LT1 came in 93 in camaro/firebird and the trans am/Z28/SS ran between 13.80's-14.20's, then the bad dogs the LS1 from 1998-2000 LS1 .2 tenths faster than LT1's, then 01-02 LS1 got Z06 intakes and different cam and heads and ran 12.99-13.5 6spd was faster
amyk1406 3 years ago
I'm tired of these pointless pissing matches between chevy and ford fans. Who gives a fuck what the stock times were on these cars? Nobody leaves their cars stock anyway, Mustangs and Camaros were made to be modified. You run what you got, and hope it's enough. I bought the fastest thing I could afford, if money were no object i'd be driving a new ZR-1 Vette!
TrickFlowGT 3 years ago
I agree with your post on the Ford/Chevy battle. But I do question your last statement - If you had the money, why settle for the vette, only to be spanked by a Super Snake????
flcracker9 2 years ago
The SuperSnake runs 12's in the 1/4 mile, while ZR1 is 11.5 Remember the "Money is no object" thing? Well, of course the ZR-1 wouldnt be stock...then all bets are off.
TrickFlowGT 2 years ago
Supersnake runs 10.8 MM&FF 2/2009
does anybody know their facts?
whtbullitt 2 years ago
No, No, No... What you forgot to mention was in that test article they bolted up drag slicks in an attempt to run 10's. Mickey Thompsons. We're talking off the showroom floor here. The Road&Track test was done with stock tires. If you' re going to leave out details like that, make sure you find an article where they bolted up slicks to the vette. Besides, if it's in a magazine, it must be true...Right? To answer your question, YES someone does know their facts.
TrickFlowGT 2 years ago
Yup, 10.8s with the only mod being drag radials. They still had to launch at a very low rpm to hook up. I believe it ran low 11's right off the show room floor?. add a set of slicks and you're in the low 10s
flcracker9 2 years ago
i dont know the 03 cobra was rated at 420 hp but only had 390
the 02 z06 has the ls6 with 400horsepower so it is pretty even
dont be mad because the z06 was still getting beat
oakcliffjoepimp 2 years ago
You've got it backwards. The '03-'04 Cobras were rated at 390 stock, but actually put out around 420. Ask me how I know..hehe. My car is sooo far from stock now it is difficult to remember what 400hp felt like. That's the beauty of those cars, you can make big power with just a few upgrades.
TrickFlowGT 2 years ago
fuking dam out a 4.6 you can make power of an 6.2 lv8 thats beautiful
oakcliffjoepimp 2 years ago
let see acording to tamestang that is a 351 with spray. ive only heard of 5.0 becoming 347 strokers. if that is a built 351 with spray it better beat a stock camaro. lt or ls. any of you that think a 5.0 is a better motor than an ls is an idiot. maybe a BUILT stroked 5.0 with n20 vs a stock ls. i cant believe what im hearing it just goes to show how naive ppl are. a 20yr old engine kills technology. yea right. ford always been down on power. needs f/i to keep up. 5.0's are ugly and slow. period.
TheyCallMeAlex89 3 years ago 2
The camaro was far from stock ;) was setup for juice as you can hear the tight converter. He also slept on the tree :P If we had raced bottle to bottle it would've been much worse. Was just a fun race nothing for money anyway. too many people get their panties in a wad :P
roarracing 3 years ago
@roarracing man u got people posting all kinda of dumbass comments on yo shit! haters should not be allowed on youtube!!! WTF!!! its only youtube!!! btw u kicked that camaros ass!!!! thats wha the fuck is SUPPOSE TO HAPPEN!!!!! FUCK CHEVY!!! 5.0s for LIFE!!!!
stonebridgecustom 1 year ago
@roarracing like your girlfriend after i bottom her shit out?
5secret 1 year ago
ugly? compared to what? a Camaro? please.... Lay off the masturbating because you are obviously blind.
kegfan 3 years ago
look i cant watch the video again cause im at work. but if i remember correctly those were lt taillights anyway. and yes. a 92 camaro looks better than a 92 chrysler lebarron, er i mean mustang. however not ALL of them look bad. just 99% of them. and same pretty much goes for the neigbor kids busted ass camaro as well. honestly that part is an opinion. what all was done to your mustang? and whats it run? oh and ppl put converters in stock camaros. a stock ls with one WILL run a 12. w/o juice.
TheyCallMeAlex89 3 years ago
Wow. I'm such a dick some times. It's a matter of opinion really. The whole "numbers don't lie" argument is pretty much played out though. A mustang can be taken just as far as any other sports car if you got the cash.
kegfan 3 years ago 2
So true. It's no longer about the car... It's all on the driver.
redfoxbody 3 years ago
I'm almost stock actually. I don't claim to be a racer. I like the capabilities of a 302 with Edelbrock upper and lower intake, full custom flowmaster exhaust with dumps , 355 gears, posi rear end and some nice wheels. I could use a nice paintjob though thats for sure. I'm too broke for a camera but I will probably start backing my claims up in the next month when I get off my ass and race.
peace
kegfan 3 years ago
ok well your talking about 80's cars right? so lets keep it in the 80...mustang gt ran a 15.1 at 93 mph and the iroc camaro (5.7L) ran a 15.3 @ 90pmh AND the notch stang ran a 14.7 @ 95 mph..... both n/a cars where do you see f/i in a stock fox body?
keeksta1 3 years ago
actually an 89 IROC with the tune port ran 14.30, GM has led the way since the very start of the mustang vs camaro/trans am....
amyk1406 3 years ago
@TheyCallMeAlex89 Sure a 5.0L is a better engine lol. It doesn't make as much power in stock form but it is a better engine nonetheless. A STOCK 5.0 shortblock will handle over 500 hp and 7,000 rpm and a complete 5.0L engine assembly can be had for $300 or less on Craigslist. How much does a complete running LS1 engine cost? $2,000? Since you hadn't heard of a 351 we can assume you don't know a lot about this stuff. 351 is a small block Ford engine that can also be had for a few hundred bucks.
gtdrummerdude 1 year ago
@gtdrummerdude well, 351 windsor is a small block. 351 C was a big block....we wont even consider a 351 M. they was junk
richjd630 1 year ago
@TheyCallMeAlex89 You know they have stock engine coupes running 12's lol. Their 100hp less than ls engines too.
GrantEvanGriffith 1 year ago
@GrantEvanGriffith i dont think people know what sum guys have done. like you said theres a good bit of fox coupes that are stock with a few small tweaks to help them hook and they took things off of them for weight and to help free up the motor. and have them runnin 12s! these are not gutted race cars just choice mods to help in the pursuit of 12s. i also seen stock motor aod foxbody coupe cars with prochargers runnin 10s!!! its all documented in 5.0 magizine n/a 12 sec and 10 sec blown cars
BLACKLACDTS 1 year ago
@TheyCallMeAlex89 You said it, simple...im black & white. Camaro is a better car in every scence of the word.
madballz28 1 year ago
@TheyCallMeAlex89 the last part was an opinion and now we have the new 2011 gt beating which car??? not talking shit just opening your eyes. The ls1 isnt god. I have a owned many camaros and i currently own two cobras. One 03 and one 98. I miss being able to throw a set of heads cam and intake and seeing a gain of over 40 rwhp. 40 rwhp may be the most i can get out of my engine with a H/C/I swap. Thats why the 98 is getting a turbo setup i think. or i might supercharge it
TheBopop 10 months ago
@TheyCallMeAlex89 hell yea i agree with u if the fuckin 5.slow wasent upgraded the camaro wouldve smoked him
syles 7 months ago
I love 5.0's... yeah!!! thats how we do in here... we be smoking slomaros all day baby!!
heihachi77 3 years ago
I know that guy. That car runs low 6's and I have seen him stand it on the back bumper once! It is no joke. It is a 351 with spray.
tamestang 3 years ago
Sweet so a built fox which weighs less and has alot more suspension beat a stock ls1 car. Awesome....
765travis 3 years ago 2
look over at related vids. click the one that says 04 cobra vs camaro ss. and that will show you why i think what i think. especially from a dig. its got a pic of a red cobra on it. and you cannot tell me that 5.slow is faster that that s/c cobra. UNLESS it has one or more of the mods i stated.
TheyCallMeAlex89 3 years ago
people have to do heads and cams ect to get the 4.6l to 300 rwhp and thats a much better motor. the ls1 will put 300rwhp down stock. just because it can burn out does not make it fast. but even an unlucky auto ls1 w/a bad driver could run that slow. something is up with that car. like maybe its a v6 or soemthing idk. vid didnt even show what the camaro ran. im def thinking its a 347 stoker.
TheyCallMeAlex89 3 years ago
LMAO!i hope the first couple comments were jokes... 5.0 bigger than 5.6(7) w/e you wanna call it. and 5.0 better motor? if i ever lost to a 5.0 in my camaro i would shoot myself in the face. though that was a stroker for damn sure. and probably had n2o. and thats completely believable at 12.8. he said basically stock. if he is active on ls1 boards he knows intake exhaust and headers is basically stock. its cams and heads that really make these cars scream. also i almost wanna say that was an lt.
TheyCallMeAlex89 3 years ago
Why would he have to be running a stroker and n2o to run a 12.8? A good HCI 302 will run low 12's setup properly.
fidstang 3 years ago
i would think a stroker and no n20 would, and i guess that a wicked cam and heads setup would too now that i think about it. i just remember racing a 5.0 w a hci setup and blew its doors off. all i had was a small cam and gears and of course supporting mods. i must have been thinking 11's when i wrote that. but i was saying it cause they make 215hp to the crank stock. they are pretty light though. either way, i do not believe that was an ls1. if it was something was wrong with it.
TheyCallMeAlex89 3 years ago
You better not drive a Camaro crap car... cause 5.0 will kill & smoke that...
heihachi77 3 years ago
a bone stock LS1 running 12.8?...you are full of shit.
vipexperformance 3 years ago
On DR's its not that hard.
TiKondaRoga 3 years ago 2
No, he is right. Many car mags have reported the LS1's running in the 12's when using slicks.
prototype2030 3 years ago
the last 5.0l in a mustang (1994) was rated at 215 hp the last Ls1 in a f-body was rated at 310 HP.
My basicly stock ls1 with auto trans and 126,000 miles runs 12.8@107 mph and dynoed 316 RWHP
my bone stock 94 Mustang GT convertible Automatic ran 16.3@87 mph
tx77015ls1 4 years ago
How do you figure a 302 is bigger than a 346 dumbass? That 5.0 was anything but stock.
meach3505 4 years ago
Ls1's own
sprchgdcobra 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
do you know how much bigger the 302 engines are then the ls1 engiens are? alot bigger... and listen to that mean ass sound of the 5.0..
darkmp40 4 years ago
rofl an ls1 is a 346 how the hell is a 302 bigger than a 346? lol
kydwykyd 4 years ago 4
dumb ass lol
dsmsucks 4 years ago 3
pendejo!!!
71dime 3 years ago
those 5.0's are LS1 killers period....and i'm a GM guy
Valiant81 4 years ago
thanks valiant and their bringing it back to for 2010 if ya chevy guys like to know jsut letting you know
llmartin2002 4 years ago 3
they can be. they have great potential for dirt cheap too. but all american cars are that way. i'm sure you can build an ls1 to have a 408 stroker motor. or a 351w into a stroker motor too. both great cars.
santiagomel00 3 years ago