Different from the butterfly (aka lineman's loop, alpine butterfly) in that the overhands in this don't interlock as they do in the butterfly. I tied a few of these by accident while reverse-engineering the butterfly as a kid. I think the butterfly is a better knot, but this one is not bad.
I don't know what I was thinking before, but the Positive Knot is tied in the bight. I think what I meant is that the Positive Knot is used at the end of a rope, while the Alpine Butterfly is used in the middle. But both are tied in the bight.
okay, that's one way to keep a manharness loop from slipping, I guess. Just tie another next to it and run the second loop through the first. It remains easy to untie if the loop is loaded, but if the bitter end is loaded, the only way you're untying it with one hand in less than a second is with a sharp knife.
It definitely has its drawbacks. I've tied it in some thin stuff and loaded it with my body weight and it took half an hour and a special tool to get it undone. But then again, what knot doesn't have drawbacks?
Well, I certainly concede that point. Indeed, if there ever were a perfect knot, there would not be thousands of them for us to ponder over. By the way, you make a solid quality knot video; your arms stay out of the shot. Sorry for not mentioning that earlier. And my earlier comment was a bit abrasive, sorry there also.
No worries. I appreciate constructive criticism -- in fact, I appreciate any comments at all.
Glad you liked the video. I try hard to make sure that they're clear and easy to follow. That's why I don't put things up very often; it takes a long time.
Different from the butterfly (aka lineman's loop, alpine butterfly) in that the overhands in this don't interlock as they do in the butterfly. I tied a few of these by accident while reverse-engineering the butterfly as a kid. I think the butterfly is a better knot, but this one is not bad.
noahbalmer 7 months ago
Check Alpine butterfly knott....has the same structure...tyed different but ends in two slipknots
kmend52962 2 years ago
Alpine Butterfly can be tied in the bight, while the Positive Knot can't. I really like the Alpine Butterfly, but this isn't it.
PacoWarabi 2 years ago
@PacoWarabi
I don't know what I was thinking before, but the Positive Knot is tied in the bight. I think what I meant is that the Positive Knot is used at the end of a rope, while the Alpine Butterfly is used in the middle. But both are tied in the bight.
PacoWarabi 1 year ago
okay, that's one way to keep a manharness loop from slipping, I guess. Just tie another next to it and run the second loop through the first. It remains easy to untie if the loop is loaded, but if the bitter end is loaded, the only way you're untying it with one hand in less than a second is with a sharp knife.
riteonfukenkaren 2 years ago
It definitely has its drawbacks. I've tied it in some thin stuff and loaded it with my body weight and it took half an hour and a special tool to get it undone. But then again, what knot doesn't have drawbacks?
PacoWarabi 2 years ago
Well, I certainly concede that point. Indeed, if there ever were a perfect knot, there would not be thousands of them for us to ponder over. By the way, you make a solid quality knot video; your arms stay out of the shot. Sorry for not mentioning that earlier. And my earlier comment was a bit abrasive, sorry there also.
riteonfukenkaren 2 years ago
No worries. I appreciate constructive criticism -- in fact, I appreciate any comments at all.
Glad you liked the video. I try hard to make sure that they're clear and easy to follow. That's why I don't put things up very often; it takes a long time.
PacoWarabi 2 years ago
Paco, you goofy bastard, kudos on stumping the IGKT...
OvalVW 2 years ago
thats a great one
q1qeu 2 years ago
Your definitely on to something....good job, I going to try this one out the next time I am in the field.
mookiesan 3 years ago
Hep, Paco... I checked a Navy guy I know who is into knots like nobody's business and he had never heard of this knot before.
Then he asked, "But why not just use a bowline?"
Hope that helps. Thanks for your enjoyable postings....
Binford7 3 years ago
Thanks for checking with your friend. I've posted to the International Guild of Knot Tyers, and I stumped them, too.
The reason I don't use a bowline come up in part 2 of the video. This can be untied with one hand in less than a second, among other reasons.
I'm glad you like the videos. That's why I make them!
PacoWarabi 3 years ago
nice one cheers
fshcake 3 years ago